UFC announcer Joe Rogan took some time on a recent installment of his Joe Rogan Experience podcast to state his very emphatic opinions about transgender athlete Fallon Fox competing against women in MMA.
Fight Opinion transcribed Rogan's comments:
"She calls herself a woman but... I tend to disagree. And, uh, she, um... she used to be a man but now she has had, she's a transgender which is (the) official term that means you've gone through it, right? And she wants to be able to fight women in MMA. I say no fucking way. I say if you had a dick at one point in time, you also have all the bone structure that comes with having a dick. You have bigger hands, you have bigger shoulder joints. You're a fucking man. That's a man, OK? You can't have... that's... I don't care if you don't have a dick any more...
"You can't fight women. That's fucking crazy. I don't know why she thinks that she's going to be able to do that. If you want to be a woman in the bedroom and you know you want to play house and all of that other shit and you feel like you have, your body is really a woman's body trapped inside a man's frame and so you got a operation, that's all good in the hood. But you can't fight chicks. Get the fuck out of here. You're out of your mind. You need to fight men, you know? Period. You need to fight men your size because you're a man. You're a man without a dick.
"I'm looking at a man with a dress, OK? And you don't... you can act as a woman, I will call you a ‘her,' I will, uh, call you ma'am. I'll be respectful but you can't fight women when you have a man's frame. PERIOD. Women aren't that wide, that generates to increased punching power. Women don't have that sort of muscle structure. I don't know what you're doing, I don't know, you mean obviously if you're transoperational it means you removed your testicles so your body's not producing testosterone any more. I don't know if you're supplementing testosterone. If your body's not producing testosterone, why are your arms so big? What's going on here? There's a lot of shit going on there and you can't fight women. No fucking way.
"She's won two fights by brutal knockout. So, she's fighting women. ... There's a variety of small companies that, um, that are willing to allow a person like this to fight. I say it's fucked up. You can't fight women! You can't. And just to look at her record, she's crushed two women inside the first round. I mean, she's crushing these girls...
"Look, she's huge! She's not just huge, she's got a fucking man's face. I mean, you can wear all the lipstick you want. You want to be a woman and you want to take female hormones, you want to get a boob job, that's all fine. I support your life to live, your right to live as a woman.
"Fight guys, yes. She has to fight guys. First of all, she's not really a she. She's a transgender, post-op person. The operation doesn't shave down your bone density. It doesn't change. You look at a man's hands and you look at a women's hands and they're built different. They're just thicker, they're stronger, your wrists are thicker, your elbows are thicker, your joints are thicker. Just the mechanical function of punching, a man can do it much harder than a woman can, period.
"I support, 100%, anyone's right to be transgender. This is not where it lies with me, like I'm not a prejudiced person. I don't know what you feel in your body. If you really are a woman trapped in a man's body, I support your right to do whatever you want to do. Go for it. If that's what makes you happy, I would not try to stop that at all and I support it 100%. The real issue comes with violent competition with women and the reality of the physical structure of your body. The reality of the physical structure is not fair. You can't say that a 145 pound woman and a 145 pound man are even. That's like saying, you know, a 30-pound poodle and a 30-pound Pitbull are just two dogs - because they're not. One of them has distributed its mass in quite a different way. It's built for quite a different purpose and men are built for smashing shit. Women are built for getting held down by the stronger male monkey and, you know, women are built for carrying babies and doing work and whatever other non-hyperexplosive physical things you would want to do with your body. But they're not built for hyperexplosive physical violence, they're just not. They have more dainty frames, their hands are smaller. And even if they are big, they're not big like a big man is. It's not fair. I'm not trying to discriminate against women in any way, shape, or form and I'm a big supporter of women's fighting. I loved watching that Ronda Rousey/Liz Carmouche fight. But those are actual women. Those are actual women. And as strong as Ronda Rousey looks, she's still looks to me like a pretty girl. She's a beautiful girl who happens to be strong. She's a girl! [Fallon Fox] is not a girl, OK? This is a transgender woman. It's a totally different specification.
"How about some crazy dude who wants to beat the fuck out of chicks, so he gets his dick chopped off? I mean, that's not outside the realm of possibility. There's a lot of suicidal fucks out there. There's a lot of people that are like on the edge anyway. Like getting your dick chopped off, you know you're going to pay attention to me? OK, I'll chop my dick off, I'll be a girl for a while. There's people out there that are fucking crazy and you can't let them fight girls. You just can't. So, if this chick fights on Indian land I guess they could do whatever you want. I don't see the Nevada State Athletic Commission allowing a woman to fight a man, though. ... I don't agree with the (Florida) athletic commission letting this happen. I don't know. I don't understand it. I don't know why anybody would ever allow it. When it comes to competitive athletics, that's where you got to draw the line."
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