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Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White

If you haven't heard the most recent episode of Sherdog's Beatdown, RJJ makes an appearance and pleads his case for allowing a boxing match between the legendary boxer and UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva. What's interesting is how Jones views White's decision not to allow the fight to take place. Jones uses words like "selfish" and "cheat" to describe the decision of White and the UFC brass to prevent the world from "seeing an event."

Clearly Jones knows which side his bread is buttered on. He's the odds on favorite to win, will make a ton of cash and add a new wrinkle to his legacy. But Jones is deeply respectful of Silva, the sport of mixed martial arts and the idea that MMA wouldn't take a hit were Silva to lose. Jones argues if Silva lost, he'd lose in a boxing match, not a MMA fight. Thus, what's the harm? Jones is short sighted, but has the MMA fan mentality: if you won't lose respect for Silva for trying, what's the harm?

Jones comes from a world where the fighters are much more the centers of power and that, in some part, enables him to speak his mind much more freely. And that freedom, even if tainted with blatant opportunism, is still interesting to hear.

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Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
He should perhaps volunteer to fight Silva in a MMA fight.  That way, should he lose he'd be losing a MMA fight, not a a boxing match.  He's being selfish and depriving the world of "seeing an event."

by Richard on Apr 9, 2008 11:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
In his defense, it's not that simple. Silva, while no RJJ, is a pro boxer with some competition. RJJ doesn't know the difference between a sprawl and a kimura.

by Luke Thomas on Apr 9, 2008 11:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
I feel like you're overstating Silva's boxing credentials. He's 1-1. While that technically counts as him having had "some competition," it hardly implies that he is ready to face any sort of accomplished boxer, let alone one of the all-time greats.

by Brett Jones on Apr 10, 2008 9:23 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
Maybe he is ready to face competition, maybe he's not. But at least he has achieved professional status in boxing. He's not Marcelo Garcia trying to box. He is competent enough in boxing to have had competed and won at the professional level. That's not a lot, but you can't discount it either.

by Luke Thomas on Apr 10, 2008 9:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
And it was Silva who called out RJJ. And more money for the fighters can be made in boxing than it can in MMA. And so on and so on...

by Luke Thomas on Apr 9, 2008 11:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
Oh, I know that.  I was just making the point that it makes about as much sense for Silva to step into the ring as it does for Jones to step into the octagon.

by Richard on Apr 9, 2008 11:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
OK then, I found a solution: Have Roy crush Silva in boxing, have Silva demolish Roy in MMA, then do the tie breaker in alternating rounds of both like Sapp/LeBanner.

by godzillad on Apr 10, 2008 12:24 AM EDT   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
If anything, you have a clause where if Silva loses, they have a rematch a year later under MMA rules which would give RJJ time to learn ground basics and such.

What is of greater importance here is Roy Jones, Jr. publicly bashing White and the UFC for this. Gentleman, I'm sure everyone's aware that MMA has made great strides in the past year in mainstream media like ESPN and Sports Illustrated. All of the exposure has been based around something to the effect of "Look at this ridiculous new sport! These guys are killing each other but it's somehow safe! Wow!"

White and the UFC have had negotiating problems with venues like HBO because they don't want to give up their production. Basically, the UFC wants to promote who they want, when they want, how they want which is the mindset of any fight promoter. The problem is that they aren't just a fight promoter but a massive sports league at this point. I think with such a high profile athlete Roy Jones calling out the UFC in this situation, I really believe it's only a matter of time before this story breaks on ESPN, giving the UFC bad press. Imagine RJJ put in an interview seat on SportsCenter making the same statements he did on Sherdog radio. I think it's safe to say we would see Anderson Silva vs Roy Jones, Jr. in a boxing ring within a few months of that interview.

Welcome to the mainstream, Dana.

by dropkick101 on Apr 10, 2008 2:28 AM EDT   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
I think we are seeing here the limited negotiation ability of Dana White.  For some reason, Dana has a "lack of people skills", and I do think that is very important in business.  You can be the "tough" CEO type, but that does not always work out for the best...there really is no loser if Anderson Silva were to get in a boxing ring with Roy Jones Jr., and  the combination of Zuffa control with maybe some fear that Roy Jones Jr. will win and every boxing fan will crown boxing over mma, or some bs like that.  All that being said, Roy Jones Jr. would demolish Anderson Silva - I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks otherwise has their head in the clouds.

by johnwall on Apr 10, 2008 2:32 AM EDT   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
I really don't see what anyone gains from Roy Jones, Jr. kicking Anderson Silva's ass in a boxing match.

by Richard on Apr 10, 2008 2:47 AM EDT   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
Oh Lord, PLEASE make this happen.

by dohfil on Apr 10, 2008 3:00 AM EDT   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
You know what?  I think MMA fans are being pretty hypocritical about this whole thing.

We freak out on Dana White and the UFC brass for taking champions and putting them as coaches on TUF, effectively setting the title on the shelf for 6-12 months.  But we want to see Anderson Silva in a boxing match?  He is going to have to focus on boxing only for at LEAST several months before the bout...after the bout he'll need time off.  You're looking at probably at least a year before you see the middleweight championship defended in the UFC.

And that's a best case scenario that doesn't involve a medical suspension following a KO/TKO or a broken hand or a broken jaw or a broken orbital socket.

by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2008 8:56 AM EDT   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
Brent the difference lies in the fact that while Silva might not be defending the middleweight championship, he will still be competing in a combat sport in a forum that will be readily available for all fans to see. TUF ties champions up without them fighting whatsoever. Not only will Silva be fighting but he'll be doing it in a way that could potentially attract more viewers to MMA than TUF does. I say have Silva v Okami so we can officially say that he cleared out the division and once that happens let him go train for RJJ for about 4-5 months before the fight. Hell, you can have an interim championship bout in the mean time anyway since anyone fighting for the belt will probably be someone who has lost to Silva anyway.

by dropkick101 on Apr 10, 2008 2:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
I'd rather see them on TUF than fighting in another sport I don't give a rat's ass about.

by Richard on Apr 10, 2008 2:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
The success of TUF has a lot to do with the UFC and is safe.  The success of the boxing match which COULD VERY WELL DAMAGE THE UFC's IMAGE is very risky.

If you really think that people won't say "see...a boxer just kicked the shit out of an MMA champion" then you're living in a fantasy land.  The coverage that the event would get from the mainstream media would revolve ENTIRELY around the angle of "now we get to see which sport is tougher" or some other bullshit.

Silva will look AWFUL if the fight takes place.  It doesn't make sense at all from a business perspective for the UFC.

by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2008 4:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
MMA fans are the most myopic group of people on the planet.  It's amazing how they continue to want showcase people that have all the same skill-sets.  It defies the entire foundation of the sport--matching up guys who have radically different styles, and see who comes out on top.

Dana White has done a tremendous job of  furthering MMA, however, his inability to see beyond the UFC is simply mind-blowing.

by MMARoadShow on Apr 10, 2008 4:26 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
Dana said that he would allow the two to fight in an MMA bout.  The foundation of the sport is matching up guys of different styles to see who comes out on top...but in a format that allows all skills to be showcased.

Dana doesn't want his most dominant champion to get beaten (badly...oh so very very badly) in a sport that he doesn't currently compete in.  It would be bad for the UFC if it took place.

by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 10, 2008 4:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
White should arrange both an mma bout and boxing match.that way they can save some face .since that makes sense you know it wont ever happen.

by Airipsus on Apr 10, 2008 4:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
I think White would allow the Silva to box Jones if Jones were also willing to step into the octagon and get his ass kicked by Silva.

by Richard on Apr 10, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
It's not necessarily just this fight.  The collective fanbase has done nothing but rip a guy like Kimbo Slice.  Saying he can't compete in MMA because of his non-existent ground game.

That's not his style and that's what makes this sport go. Different styles, guys with different backgrounds, then get an opportunity to see who will prevail. It's this type of narrow-minded thinking that will kill this sport.

by MMARoadShow on Apr 10, 2008 8:05 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Roy Jones, Jr. Slams Dana White
Roy Jones, Jr., is a notoriously huge pain in the ass about everything. Has been for a long, long time.

In many ways, I'm glad he won't get the chance for what would be a big payday and a lot of attention coming his way to fight MMA's best fighter in a lopsided, rather unfair exhibition match. Jones is one of my favorite fighters because at his peak, he was just electric to watch ply his trade. But if you get down the brass tacks of Roy Jones the businessman, he probably deserves to be shot down like this.

Dana's protecting one of his top stars, his company, and the sport that's made him a celebrity. I cannot blame him for that.

I'm also glad because I have no interest in paying to see Jones slaughter Silva in a boxing match, because it would mean nothing besides money, and as much as I want these athletes to be paid well for what they do to their bodies, at the end of the day I'm a fan, and if a fight is attractive, then great. If it's not, I don't give a shit. Jones-Silva is not attractive on either stage. It's a gross mismatch one way or the other.

by SC on Apr 17, 2008 4:11 AM EDT   0 recs

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