Why Is the Sammy Vasquez Story Important?
As I've stated previously, I find the silence on this issue alarming. Naturally, though, not everyone shares my viewpoint. Another reader at Fight Opinion carries water for the idea that because this incident was inevitable, that makes the actual event itself not overly noteworthy. Notable quote:
Exactly where is the topic of conversation here?
The topic of conversation is directly in front of your face, that's where. The callousness of this reply is almost too much to swallow. While I don't expect wailing and gnashing of teeth from those who didn't know Vasquez, I do expect a little more than cursory dismissal.
First, this is a huge story, preordained or not. That this reader takes the time to acknowledge what is already obvious to everyone is evidence of Stage One thinking. Pardon me while I move to stage two: the death of Sam Vazquez needs thorough medical investigation and the medical/legal screens that Vasquez passed deserve a reevaluation in light of his death. The inevitability of death or serious injury in combat athletics does not absolve those responsible for safety from self-examination. We cannot simply say, "Well, we knew this was coming. Let's move on. Nothing to see here, folks." At every interval of tragedy, we must try to make sense of the loss to see how it can be prevented going forward. It may turn out that Vasquez's death signifies nothing meaningful about the screens he ostensibly passed, but if one believes in "fighter safety first" then getting expert opinion on potential shortcomings or improvements seems beyond appropriate. This sport has in part created a rules system that developed from a guess-and-check method. When a situation goes horribly wrong, I find it hardly controversial to suggest that we not brush this issue aside and reevaluate what it is that we're doing to ensure fighter safety in Texas.
Second, I am not a doctor or lawyer. I could evaluate the screens myself, but I don't issue a specific policy prescription at this juncture because I believe in something that gets little play these days: qualified opinion. When enough information is collected and processed through the minds of those who are far more familiar with these sensitive subjects than I, then I hope there will be appropriate opinions and suggestions issued for everyone to evaluate. In this world of instant opinion, we are expected to have omnicompetence over issues. But I don't have that. I have a workable knowledge base, but not enough to immediately identify areas of the law that can be improved. My entire aim is to get people to pay attention so that those with the proper expertise can sit down and say, "Did we go wrong somewhere? IF so, where?"
Then there's this gem:
What would you have me do, quit my job and drive to Texas to lead a march on city hall? All I have is a website and I'm using that to the best of my ability. And while I don't know what you mean by "hell-raising", I would certainly say I'm doing a lot more in the way of bringing attention to this matter than others. I'm not throwing Molotov cocktails through the Prime Minister's window, but is that what's required? As I said before, I'm not even sure anything negligent or nefarious took place, just that we need to kick the tires and lift the hood to make sure this doesn't happen again anytime soon to any fighter in regulated competition.
While the most central component of this tragedy is the loss of human life, how Vasquez's death affects the sport is worth a moment to think about and understand. That any one person "knew this was going to happen" is obtuse to the point of cruelty on a human level and unthinking/dismissive on a pragmatic level. In life, every fighter deserves to know every reasonable precaution that could've been taken on his or her behalf was taken. In death, Vasquez deserves no less.
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Re: Why Is the Sammy Vasquez Story Important?
Two, I believe the crux of this lies between your point of view and that of the callous reply left on FO. 6-14 kids die every year playing high school football, boxers die in droves, football players, etc. It happens. But when money is involved, even death isnt gonna change much.
Sammy's death does need to be investigated. This is the first true death in MMA, and as the first, it needs to be investigated more thoroughly than your local traffic accident. I dont think it should be brushed aside, but we shouldn't be throwing Molotov's through the PM's windows either. Let those with more qualified minds work through it, as they will. Then when the data is in, any rules that need to be changed will be. I'm sure Keith Kizer, Armando Cantseeya, and Larry's replacement are all over this.
As you oh so correctly point out, med insurance and critical care insurance need to be MANDATED at every MMA event everywhere. That and a modest life insurance policy. With the proven safety of MMA, I'm sure the mathematicians at every insurance company will be lining their executives up to get in on that action.
For my own 2c, medical exams need to start 2-4 weeks out before a fight. Base line data needs to be established so a doctor knows what the hell he's looking at. Any doc will tell you, with out prior history, cat scans, blood work, and EKGs are just about meaningless when trying to gauge someones current health. I have low bp. Always have. Whenever I go to a new doc, they look at me like I'm about to die. Nope, it's just the way my shit works.
by MoreThanUFC on Dec 4, 2007 4:47 PM EST 0 recs
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I'm waiting for this to happen before the pre-fight clearance can be re-evaluated. There are some words from his wife which suggest he had a pre-existing brain problem. This, if true and relevant, would lead us in a good direction. Concussive trauma and cranial bleeding would be good things to test for predispositions toward, if they're not already being tested for. But this is just speculative until we know more.
I want to make this sport as safe as possible too, but jumping the gun will get us running in too many directions. Unfortunately, we also don't have anyone to actually find this information for us. Without someone like Dana pushing for answers and medical review this ain't gonna happen.
by asa on Dec 4, 2007 6:35 PM EST 0 recs
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My callousness isn't towards Vazquez' death, which I consider damned sad. My callousness is towards your attitude about it, which I consider to be nothing more than over-wrought hand waving.
"The nightmare has finally arrived. Amidst all the sanctioning processes and oversight, a fighter in professional competition suffered defeat. Lethal defeat. We knew the system wasn't perfect and now we have proof. Worse, now "they" have proof, too. "They" being the bitter enders of critics, politicians and pundits slandering the sport for ratings grabs"
That is tacky as hell, a bald-faced ploy use this tragedy to grab at the emotions of the reader to further your own opinions. If you want to say that we should use this opportunity to reexamine regulations, fine. But depending on the emotions involved in this tragedy to make that point is disgusting.
As for the content itself:
First, my comment that asa repeated: until we know exactly why he died, we can't analyze any way in which the requirements should be improved. That is completely true. The current regulations have been put in place by professionals more qualified than you or I, and there have never been any deaths in regulated MMA until now. Vazquez' death may have been an unforseeable fluke, it may have been a problem with the rules. But until we know the cause of death, it is irresponsible to be calling those rules into question.
Second is in response to this: "When enough information is collected and processed through the minds of those who are far more familiar with these sensitive subjects than I, then I hope there will be appropriate opinions and suggestions issued for everyone to evaluate. In this world of instant opinion, we are expected to have omnicompetence over issues. But I don't have that."
Neither does anybody else. Thats why we want to WAIT before we start pointing fingers. You bet I'll pitch a fit if it turns out that his death was both preventable and something that should have been forseeable. If it was preventable and unforseeable with current regulations, I'll expect the regulations to be improved to a reasonable level. If it wasn't preventable, or else unforseeable with any reasonable regulations, then I won't say anything at all. But I'm going to wait until I have the information necessary to pass any judgements.
Third, you defend yourself by asking what you can do, you have a website. But that applies to most of the MMA media. Guys with websites and tenuous contacts within MMA organizations. Not people with the time and resources to actually investigate what happened. They are leaving that in the hands of people who ARE investigating what happened.
by Michaelthebox on Dec 6, 2007 5:01 PM EST 0 recs







