Hi guys, I hope this fanpost is appropriate for this site…

First I must confess that while I am a huge boxing fan, I am only a casual mma fan. But I'm on BloodyElbow a fair amount and appreciate the mma coverage from BE and it's posting community.

There's a lively debate going on over at BloodyElbow's sister site, BadLeftHook, about the Victor Ortiz-Josecito Lopez fight last Saturday and I wanted to get the perspective of mma fans.

At some point in the fight, Lopez broke Ortiz's jaw. After the 9th round, Ortiz told the ref that he no longer wanted to continue.

Now I have seen guys tap out before in mma, for example when they are getting choked out or in an arm bar or something where defeat is basically certain and they don't seem to get a lot of criticism for doing so. But I have never seen an mma fighter quit because of an injury that, while not preventing them from being able to actually finish the fight, may increase the chances of ending their career or affecting their long term health.

Does this happen? And what is the general attitude in the mma community towards this? Is tapping out/quitting considered acceptable in instances like this?

We know that anyone who steps inside a ring or octogon is aware that they are putting their long term health and indeed life on the line. When an injury like a broken jaw happens, where the chances of long term health are a real concern, should fighters be expected to fight on and go out on their shield?

Am really curious for the perspective of mma fans and wondering if anyone here saw the fight and what their thoughts are…