UFC On FX 4 goes down in a few short hours and I can't wait. I'm absolutely positive that it's going to be a better event overall than it's Saturday night counterpart, UFC 147. The conclusion of the trilogy between Sam Stout and Spencer Fisher will finally play out, something that has been over six years in the making. In a recent TapouT Radio interview, Spencer discussed the upcoming rubber match, aliens (yes aliens), and gave his thoughts on what led to the crumbling of one of the greatest fight camps ever, Team Miletich or Miletich Fighting Systems.
*Note: Interviewer is either my co-host, Evan Shoman of TapouT Radio, or myself. When I don't conduct these interviews by myself, I just put "Interviewer" to eliminate having to bounce back and forth between three different names.
Interviewer: Was this a fight that was made just for the rubber match aspect or was it because you two have put on a couple exciting fights in the past and it made sense?
Spencer Fisher: I think it's a combination of those. When we go out there, we bring the best out of each other, it seems. I expect this fight to be no different than the first two.
Interviewer: We spoke to Sam a few days ago, and he feels that he's progressed more as a fighter than you have. How do you feel about that?
Spencer Fisher: For the type of fight that this is going to be, I don't think so. In my mind, I think I beat him in the first fight, and I think a lot of people felt I should've gotten the nod in that one. The second one I decisively won, and when it comes to this one, I think I'll hit him more and more cleanly. I think that's going to be the story again. Style-wise, I just think it's a bad fight for him.
He gets hit quite a bit standing up, and it's by guys that shouldn't be able to do that. I'm not trying to say that I've gotten better or anything like that. I'm saying that it's going to be the same match, stylistically, that it always was. I still think I'm faster than him. I think it's a guaranteed fun fight for the fans. I've always fought for the fans, and that's how I want to be remembered.
Interviewer: Is there a sense of urgency going into this fight, due to age, or are you not really concerned with a title run at this point?
Spencer Fisher: I'm not really concerned with the belt. I just want to go out and put on great fights and make a living doing so. You'll have to ask me the night after we fight, what's next, because I really don't know right now. I just want to go out there and fight my butt off, and I'll get back to that question afterwards.
Interviewer: You were part of one of the most dominant fight teams around, witth Miletich. What happened to cause the disintegration of the camp?
Spencer Fisher: Basically, what it comes down to is that everybody started opening their own gyms up and doing their own thing. I think Pat sold the gym, so there's nobody there anymore. I've been out here training by myself for the last two years, and it hasn't really worked out well for me, so I thought I better find myself a coach. I might be coming to the end here, and there's a few people I wanted to train with before it all plays out. Master Rafael was one, and Freddy Roach was one. I've got a lot of great guys to train with now.
Interviewer: What's it like working with Freddie Roach?
Spencer Fisher: For the most part, I spar at Kings MMA. I just do my pad work over there with Freddie. I've been working with Rashad Holloway, just trying to get my hand speed back up to par and do the things that I used to do well.
Interviewer: As you've gotten older, have you changed up your training any, to accommodate for recovery time, or are you still going full tilt?
Spencer Fisher: [laughs] Everybody says that I'm not a spring chicken anymore and that I need to take a little more time off, but I haven't. I don't think I've taken a full day off since I've been out here. People talk about losing their speed, but for me, it's more that people take me down, and I haven't been able to throw. I'm pretty sure that Sam's not going to try that. I know what to expect.
I don't do anything different than what I used to do. Nothing has changed. As I've gotten older, certain things are more difficult for me to do, the cutting weight thing, so I try to constantly keep my metabolism sped up. I just don't think anything substitutes for hard work. I'm kind of old fashioned and believe that hard work will pay off.
Interviewer: If you decide to continue fighting, will you make one camp your permanent home, or will you continue to be the traveling man, and hit different camps for your training purposes?
Spencer Fisher: I like to see what all is out there. I've had some really good guys that I've trained with, and I've had some that weren't the right fit for me, but I enjoy training with everybody and meeting new people. In this lifestyle that we choose, the fighting world, I've met some really unique and interesting people. Jason Reinhardt is a prime example. It's been a great experience, and I'm really thankful for being able to do it.
Interviewer: You have a specific fight style that's basically balls to the wall, swing for the fences, and have been involved in more than one "war'. Do you ever worry about pugilist 's dementia or any other long lasting or recurrent injuries your body might be at risk for?
Spencer Fisher: Yeah I do. Absolutely. I think a lot of the problems that happen to guys that fight, comes in the training. I'd say 90% of it is in training, and I deal with stuff all the time, with myself and my teammates. In fact, since I've been out here, and trying to get my body ready to go for the 22nd, I've been seeing the OC Fight Doc, Dr. Kessler, and it's been great out there.
Interviewer: When you do your sparring now, are you more inclined to wear your head gear and take extra precautions?
Spencer Fisher: Yes and no. When you get closer to fight time, of course you wear your head gear, but for the most part, usually I don't.
Interviewer: Do you ever wonder to yourself how you made it out of the training camps at Miletich in one piece?
Spencer Fisher: [laughs] Yeah, that's what I was talking about earlier, with the injuries happening more often than not in training. People would get dropped or cut, or something would happen, and they'd just sit up against the wall and wait till they came to, and then got ready to go again. It was tougher than the fight, our training camps.
Interviewer: You've mentioned aliens before, what's your take on that whole thing?
Spencer Fisher: I just think that we're probably not the only ones out there. I get a lot of crap from people because I'm always looking up stuff on it, but yeah, I'm interested in all that kind of stuff [laughs].
Interviewer: Do you believe in alien abductions and what percentage of reported sightings do you think might warrant further investigation?
Spencer Fisher: No, I don't go that far I don't buy into alien abduction or cattle mutilations or crop circles. I'd say maybe 5%, but Steven Greer, this guy that does the Disclosure Project, says it only takes one to be true.
Interviewer: Do you check out any of Joe Rogan's podcasts or maybe Ancient Aliens?
Spencer Fisher: Oh yeah. As a matter of fact, there's a guy that Joe always plugs, Graham Hancock, I am a huge fan of his. I try to keep up with him, and follow him on Twitter. I listen to Coast To Coast a lot, too. I know I'm gonna get crap from my wife on this one, but yeah [laughs]. I watch Ancient Aliens, too. I love Giorgio's hair. All the guys that I train with will shoot me a text if Ancient Aliens is on, so yeah, I get into that stuff.
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