Former UFC and WWE star Ken Shamrock was on MMA Fighting's "The MMA Hour" with Ariel Helwani and discussed a number of subjects. Most interesting among the topics discussed was Ken's take on the UFC fighter pay controversy, something he added to when he was one of the main subjects of ESPN's piece on the topic.

First, the video:

Ken on Dana White's claim that Dana loaned him $60,000 (transcribed by MMA Mania):

He, (Dana White) fires off on all these things like I owe him money. That's an absolute lie, I owe him no money. Filing a bogus lawsuit? That's funny. Everybody has a right to defend themselves whether they win or lose. If you win, obviously they are going to say yours is a bogus lawsuit. But, to say that he gave me $60,000, this is the hard part about it, I'm trying to figure out, he said I made 2.5 million dollars, and I'm like, when I first went to the UFC, they begged me to come. Dana White came to me and asked me to please come to the UFC. These are numbers that people can check into, I'm not lying about this, where as Dana says things and you can't back them up, you can't find the numbers, he just says, 'We we did this, and we did that for people, and check out the numbers.' Well let us check them out, they won't let you check them out. I made those guys over 50 to 60 million dollars on the fights that I was doing and he said he loaned me sixty grand? How in the world does that match up? They came to me and wanted me to fight for them because they were making 40,000 buy rates on their pay-per-view before I came in the UFC. When I came into the UFC, we did 150,000 buys with the first fight with Tito and then 600,000 buys and then up over 1,000,000.

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Ken also was asked if he feels he was treated fairly during his time with the UFC:

First of all, I set out deals and I agreed to them. So, I am not going to look back on it now and go, 'Man, look at all the money they made and look at all the money I made, it's not fair.' I'm not going to say that because I did a contract and I made that deal, so therefore it is what it is. But, when I hear things like this, where it sounds like he did all these things for me and I did nothing for them, I mean, that just stirs up a little fire because I am just thinking to myself, 'Where would they be if that feud didn't happen?' They were getting ready to shut the doors from my understanding. Whether it's true or not, that is just what I heard was that they we not doing well. I came in and the numbers changed. I am by no means sitting here and saying that I did that alone, no. Because Tito and myself did a great job with the feud and the bickering and the bantering back and forth and obviously the UFC was there to cover it and put it together and give me the opportunity to do it. But to say that any one person in that situation did more than the other is ridiculous. That's the kind of stuff that has me a hard time dealing with Dana because it seems that anytime something goes wrong, he is the one getting picked on and everyone else is the villain. That's just not the case. He is the one in charge, he is in control and anything that goes on is usually caused by him.