Nick Diaz Should Be Released By The UFC
by Tim Burke on Feb 9, 2012 9:43 PM EST
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I'm sure you've heard the news by now. The UFC's resident anti-hero Nick Diaz tested positive for marijuana metabolites today and is about to face a long suspension. This will be Nick's second weed suspension by the NSAC, and he has now screwed up both of his scheduled UFC appearances in one way or another. In addition, he also blew his chances at a rematch with Carlos Condit, a bout that was all but official before this positive test surfaced. Precedent states that he will not be released from the promotion. But it's high time Dana White set a new precedent and kicked Stockton's finest to the curb.
Before you start screaming "it's just weed, man!", let's get one thing out of the way. It doesn't matter that it's "just weed." NSAC rules say it's an illegal substance. Whether you agree with that or not is completely irrelevant. The bottom line is that it IS illegal, and unless it was a false positive for some reason, Diaz, of his own free will, ingested something in a certain time frame that he knew might lead to a positive test. The fault (again, if it's not a false positive) falls entirely upon one person - Nick Diaz. Apologize and make excuses for him all you want. Nothing changes that simple fact.
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After Diaz skipped two press conferences and was removed from his UFC welterweight title bout with Georges St. Pierre before UFC 137, he was given the stiff sentence of instead competing in the co-main event against B.J. Penn. This time he will actually be severely punished. He will lose a large portion of his UFC 143 purse, and a purse from the Condit rematch. He will also be out for a year, based on NSAC precedent for repeat offenders. Luckily for Nick, UFC president Dana White is notoriously soft on people that pop for illegal substances. He has stated multiple times that a long suspension, which robs the fighter of the opportunity to make a living, is punishment enough. I suspect that will be the case here as well. But, Mr. White, this situation is different, and you should treat this differently.
As I have stated before, Diaz, a guy who flaunts his ability to beat marijuana tests to the media yet still gets busted, has been enabled for his entire career. He has been allowed to do as he pleases, with little to no repercussions. His coaches cover for him at every opportunity. His fans, even when faced with a mountain of evidence in regards to his guilt, still protect his "good" name and ignore his transgressions. On top of all this, his promoters/bosses have frequently let him skate because he's a commodity they hope to squeeze future revenue out of. Where does it end? Where's the line in the sand?
If Dana White has any sense, he will cut ties with Diaz once and for all. White loves to say that MMA will become the biggest sport in the world one day. He's not going to get there any time soon by continually enabling fighters that can't follow simple rules, fighters that actually flaunt their ability to get around those rules beforehand. Unfortunately, the anti-hero has sunk his hooks into the hearts of fans with money in their wallet, and the mighty dollar rules all when it comes to the UFC. You'll see Nick Diaz in the octagon in 2013. And people will still care. And that's pathetic.
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It's just weed, man.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 9, 2012 9:44 PM EST reply actions 43 recs
Nick Diaz Should Be Released By The UFC
"We're making meth here, not space shuttles."
by THEFILMGUY on Feb 9, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
lol
I don’t know where everyone else is from but weed is so common here the cops don’t even hassle you for it anymore. I know someone will reply “hes a pro fighter” and all that, but he did what he did, so let the ufc/nsac deal with it, its their problem not ours. We choose to watch the fights, its not our job to tell them how to run their company. =\
Tim Burke should be released by SB Nation
“The Rules say that it (weed) IS an illegal substance..”
Dude, you are a dork, if you spoke like that in public you would be endlessly ridiculed. If you were in a room with my friends, we would have no need for tv or music, because everyone would have a good old time ripping you to shreds for being such a corny little tattle tail.
Its just weed. Nobody gives a shit about weed.
Go away.
by Clark Griswald on Feb 9, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 36 recs
Keith Kizer obviously cares about weed, and for Nick Diaz’s job prospects over the next year, that’s really the only person that matters.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 9, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
The NSAC seems to give a shit about weed.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 9, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You’re a disgrace to Clark Griswald’s good name.
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by Tim Burke on Feb 9, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
why do you have a nick diaz quote??
"We're making meth here, not space shuttles."
Because he's not a Diaz hater.
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This.
Inside the cage, Nick Diaz is one of my favorite fighters. He has continually made it hard for me to watch him inside the cage though.
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if guys can do steroids or HGH or whatever and stick around like Sonnen then so can Diaz
by Randy Marsh on Feb 9, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The only other fighter who's a multiple offender is Leben
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You come across as a bit harsher towards Nick Diaz when he does stuff like this (the press conference stuff as well) than with any other fighter who has been caught with something or done something stupid (Sonnen, Leben, etc). Is there any reason for this, or am I just over-analyzing?
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by chrisbboy82 on Feb 10, 2012 3:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Diaz will never be released because of money
While I probably wouldn’t quit watching MMA if they released him, I would probably be less inclined to buy a PPV because I may not like the decision. So instead of me buying 12 PPV’s a year and having a handful of UFC on Fox/FX parties with 10-15 people over to watch the fights, I only have half that. So that’s a revenue drop for the UFC. Out of those people that come over to watch, maybe 3-4 haven’t been exposed to the UFC and only know of it as “human cockfighting”. So they get exposed to it with a group of fans that are able to better explain the nuance and technique as opposed to some douchey talk radio guy who talks about “rolling around with guys in tights”. So eventually at some point in a year or two, these new fans buy a PPV because they like Nick, or Carlos, Or Aldo, or whomever – but they buy one. Then the next year they buy two, or three, or six.
My point is that the UFC is a business as Dana has so frequently reminded people. Say what you want about Diaz, he puts butts in the seats. So what happens if Dana cuts Diaz? All of a sudden there is a renewed media interest in things like social anxiety disorder. Reporters asking Dana why he cut someone with medical disorder? Just sayin, keeping Diaz has far more benefits than cutting him.
You seem a little butthurt, Tim. This was a bad article written in poor taste. You have no right to talk that way about someone. This is irresponsible journalism at its worst. Its people like you that give us journalists a bad name.
by Andrew Lu on Feb 10, 2012 3:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Says the Diaz fan
1) He absolutely has the right to talk about Nick Diaz that way. It’s the internet, man.
2) This isn’t journalism, it’s commentary. There’s a difference.
3) Nick Diaz signed a contract with Zuffa that basically said he wouldn’t break any commission rules. He broke commission rules. Doesn’t matter if you think the commission rule is a stupid one, it’s a term of employment for MMA fighters. Nick Diaz willingly broke that rule, unless this is a false positive. And it won;‘t be the first time he’s broken that rule. It is a reasonable argument t make that Nick Diaz’ employment with Zuffa should be terminated. There’s also a reasonable argument to be made that it shouldn’t.
4) I do find it a bit ironic that a Diaz fanboy is moralizing about what people should or shouldn’t do and casting it in such black-and-white contrasts: “This was a bad article written in poor taste. You have no right to talk that way about someone”. And yet you’re the ones rationalizing behavior that is clearly a violation of the contract Nick Diaz signed with his employer.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 9, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
I told myself I'd stay away from this article.
But I was like, 800 comments, I wonder how far down I’ll have to scroll before someone acts like a dick?
I’ll be leaving now.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 10, 2012 1:42 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t make me slap you.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 10, 2012 1:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You can make fun of subo, which is pretty much the same thing
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i want free booze instead
i can do that every day
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
I, uh…NO after Katrina? How do I top that?
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Did you think I was shitting on your article?
I haven’t even read it. Nobody here reads things before posting comments.
I’m talking about all these people who have climbed out of their holes for the sole purpose of bitching at people on here after the event.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 10, 2012 1:55 AM EST up reply actions
That’s dedication.
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I'm lost.
If I offended you, it wasn’t my intentions. Why would I waste my time with that when 50 others are dying to perform the task?
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 10, 2012 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure if you’re trying to out-troll or not
But if not, dude, we’re cool.
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I’m apparently one of the few who got where you were coming from with the piece. Too bad I showed up a little late.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 10, 2012 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I support our Canadian brethren
Keep up the good work Tim. I felt the same way about Leben. They won’t fire Diaz or Leben but should.
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 10, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
You should read through..
It’s totally worth it
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Shit is way too real for me.
I miss the simple days of people bitching at Fagan for fighter bashing.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 10, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
and you are a disrespectful ass
clark, whether or not you agree w/ him, your comment is rude and immature. what r u gonna challenge Tim to a fight on the playground next to show your superiority? you should go away and learn some manners.
by theflyingtsunami on Feb 10, 2012 2:47 AM EST up reply actions
Luckily he never spoke like that
He wrote like that.
I bet you and you’re friends are a hoot.
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If chael sonnen can stay in the ufc so can Nick
Alot of people like to watch him fight . Writers don’t matter it’s the fans that count .
by R.L.H. on Feb 9, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Every writer here is a fan
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Yup
People don’t get paid to write here. They do because they love it.
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!
by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
The writers for BE are compensated
But this isn’t their sole income either.
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Keith Kizer should be released!
Alongside those congressmen who keep taking a stance against pot legalization.
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by SheepleBuster on Feb 9, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Even worse
It was just “metabolites” of weed. It wasn’t even weed! It’s some fake shit they made up to fuck with him. You can get metabolites at GNC. I read that somewhere, so I know what I’m talking about, man.
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I heard it wasn't even the metabolites of THC
only the trilobites…I read it somewhere, a while back
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i heard it wasn't even trilobites
it was digemon or something
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 10, 2012 8:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
If Sonnen, Leben, Thiago Silva and the TRT crew are still employed, then it would be silly to cut Diaz. He is a dumbass, sure, but he did move 400,000 PPVs and that’s all the UFC really cares about.
I’m mostly upset that I won’t get to watch him fight for a while. His Strikeforce run provided some of my favourite fights of the last couple years.
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But seriously
The issue I have is the same I had with Sonnen (who, by the way, received precisely none of the defense that Diaz is getting now, even though his testosterone is/was similarly prescribed by a doctor): seek a therapeutic exemption. If you get turned down, then take it public – but Nick and Chael didn’t do what they were supposed to do. They colored outside the lines, and they lost title shot rematches because of it.
Of course, Diaz is a two time offender, so it’s different. Let’s see what they do with Barnett – if he loses to Cormier and still comes over, they might cut Nick some slack.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 9, 2012 9:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
no seriousness please
just continue to Subo it up
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by ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ on Feb 9, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
I do not see where.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 9, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure where you’re taking issue with anything there. He fucked up. He got caught. He got punished. If he was a first-time offender like Chael, he’d have some leeway. He has absolutely none here. Second time offender, skipped a fight with Heiron to avoid a test, etc. Throw in 137, and you’ve got a recipe for unemployment.
Let the hating commence.
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Your a real classy writer.. Saying someone should get fired. Who are you to say something like that. Have some respect. This is Diaz first offense in the UFC regarding weed the other time was In pride. He’s not trying to cheat like all these other guys out there who take PED’s, Chael Sonnen blatantly cheated then lied about it to the commission, Thiago Silva used FAKE urine to try fool a test & there’s countless other fighter stories just like that & they weren’t fired & your saying the UFC should fire Diaz. Grow up a little.
by MooreUNITED on Feb 9, 2012 9:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 31 recs
Anyone wanna cover this one?
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
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Sure
Second time offender bro, your examples were all first timers.
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What about Leben? He’s been caught for steriods and painkillers. Should he be cut?
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by TheLastEmpress on Feb 9, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Leben and Diaz JUST BLEED
Now, if once in a while they bleed and the bloodsample comes back steaming with THC and PercPowder, then so be it.
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They were both in Nevada
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by Chris Hall on Feb 9, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
this is fact!
boom!
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
but under different employers
nsac can up his fine for 2nd offense but the ufc shouldn’t fire the guy for this.
Here is a rule of thumb from Chinese martial arts: Hard strikes soft, soft strikes hard. In other words - use hard weapons (fists, albows, knees, fingertips) on soft targets like muscles, torso, eyes etc. Use soft weapons (palm, sole of the foot) to strike hard targets like the head, elbows and knees, and other bony surfaces.
by Pillow Pants on Feb 9, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
This has *some* merit but...
If I hire a guy who has been in jail for drugs … And I tell him I expect no drugs at my office… Am I expected to not fire him if he does it again, first offense in my employ?
by Arca MMA on Feb 10, 2012 1:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is he Charlie sheen?
Cuz then you can let it drag out for a few years while reaping the profits before you axe him.
by Armleglegarm Head on Feb 10, 2012 1:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
it's just weed man
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by Austin Wilson on Feb 9, 2012 10:06 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 9 recs
In what way is taken a substance you are specifically not allowed to take (and, it must be noted, is illegal) NOT cheating?
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 9, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not a performance enhancing drug. He’s not using it to make his muscles bigger or to make him train harder or to run faster or to gain an advantage. Was he high during the fight?
by MooreUNITED on Feb 9, 2012 10:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He takes pot to relax… that’s an advantage.
by Shnak on Feb 9, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
ok he takes pot to relax.. & Thiago Silva takes Steroids to turn his body damn near chimp like to smash the fuck out of Brandon Vera & beat him to a pulp but people are saying fire Nick Diaz. I think ye should take some weed to, might help ye relax!
by MooreUNITED on Feb 9, 2012 10:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 11 recs
Thiago Silva cheated. Nick Diaz also cheated. You said Nick Diaz is “not trying to cheat,” but that doesn’t seem to make sense, which is what people are trying to point out to you.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 9, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Diaz might have broken the rules but it’s hardly cheating
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by Robust23 on Feb 9, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 17 recs
There it is.
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by RolloTomasi on Feb 9, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Here is a rule of thumb from Chinese martial arts: Hard strikes soft, soft strikes hard. In other words - use hard weapons (fists, albows, knees, fingertips) on soft targets like muscles, torso, eyes etc. Use soft weapons (palm, sole of the foot) to strike hard targets like the head, elbows and knees, and other bony surfaces.
by Pillow Pants on Feb 9, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Bam.
Marijuana is the 12-to-6 elbows of drug testing.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Feb 10, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
For one thinf
If he takes weed for his anxiety and can’t function properly without it, meaning he wouldn’t be able to fight without smoking, wouldn’t that be cheating?
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by dedstrk316 on Feb 10, 2012 8:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
No, Silva took steroids because of back pains and he didn’t want to put the UFC in a horrible position and back out of his headline fight with Evans at UFC 108… Diaz screwed the UFC and made them look stupid, while Silva actually helped out the UFC by still going ahead with the fight.
by Shnak on Feb 9, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
WHAT???? That comment is the most ridiculous thing Iv ever heard, shut down your computer & step away before you hurt yourself
by MooreUNITED on Feb 9, 2012 10:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 8 recs
Yes truth is ridiculous. Silva reportedly took a steroid to help him recover from an injury sustained a few weeks before the fight.
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Yep. What Thiago Silva was wrong, but when he got injured, he had two options, drop out of the fight and miss out on a big payday and have trouble meeting his financial responsibilities, or take the steroid shot to help his back injury, take the fight, and hope he doesn’t get caught. He was stuck in a really tough situation. You definitely can understand why he made the choice he did…
True, but was he allowed to do it by the AC? No? Then he cheated. A cheat is a cheat, and if I call Diaz one, I’m calling Silva one too (and Sonnen, and many others)
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 9, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Haha, I already agree with you on that point in this post Fraser
I was just giving Moore the back story of Silva’s incident last year. He cheated and he got his punishment.
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Didn't you listen to Sonnen?
He got permission from someone to talked to a guy who knew someone else who was linked to the athletic commissioner.
How DARE you, sir.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Feb 10, 2012 2:08 AM EST up reply actions
I envy you Fraser
Your world is just black and white, so simple to understand, you don’t have to think and differentiate at all, everything is the same, right?
By the way, is meditation or listening to the ocean waves also cheating, I mean it helps you relax.
That depends
Is either meditation or listening to the ocean waves prohibited by the NSAC? I can’t say for sure, myself, but it should be pretty easy to find out, since the NSAC rules on prohibited substances is, in fact, black and white.
This comment is intended for entertainment purposes only. Any resemblence to the actual truth is entirely coincidental.
There is a difference between breaking a rule and cheating
What he did was illegal no one debates that, but Diaz put no shit into his body that gave him an unfair advantage or did anything else that put his opponent at a disadvantage
There’s no need to be rude and sarcastic in your response to me. Thanks.
I guess to me there are some advantages that marijuana can give you in MMA. It can help you focus, it can help you relax your mind and your body. Those are good things for a fighter. So if you are taking something you are not allowed to take, and you’re gaining an advantage because of it, then yes, I do consider that cheating.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 10, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
I don't consider sarcasm as rude
but if I should have offended you, my apologies. To your point that marijuana hands you an advantage, I disagree completly. At least in my experience I can’t imagine that it does, but even if, he would have had to smoke it on fight day to gain the desired outcome, the effect doesn’t last that long. It’s not like with steroids which build up your physical constitution to a more lasting effect.
No worries, and thanks for your response.
My issue with a lot of this “is it an advantage or is it not” thing is that it tends to boil down to this kind of anecdotal evidence, which I don’t always find super compelling. Marijuana affects different people in different ways and it seems entirely possible it affects Diaz in an advantageous way.
That said, your point about its short lasting effects is a very good one, and something I have not heard brought up too much yet. That’s definitely a factor to take into consideration. Was he impaired at the time of the fight? Not sure we’ll ever have that answer, but you-re right – it’s an important question to ask.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 10, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
And Diaz smokes weed so he doesn't freak out and beat the shit outta everyone on the planet.
The difference is Diaz’s medicine isn’t gonna turn him into a freak of nature, if anything it’s gonna slow him down.
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Ok
So, should they care for Diaz’ safety if the substance slows him down and not let him fight?
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Sure
I’m not saying he shouldn’t be punished, he broke the rules as they are written (even though they are fucking redonk) but to say he’s cheating seems inaccurate.
The only way weed is a PED is if you’re fighting a bag of funyuns.
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I agree that it is ridiculous
But he is still being punished for breaking a rule, a rule that he seems to not care about.
It’s kinda ironic that the thing that makes Diaz appealing (His all around not caring) Is what’s gonna cost him some chunks of his fighting career if he doesn’t at least slows down on the weed
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Yup
It’s his life not ours and the last thing any of us should want is for him to lose his job . We don’t know what kinda problems Nick has or where his head is at . Shame on Tim Burke .
by R.L.H. on Feb 9, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s not that we want him to lose his job, it’s the fact that he may cost the UFC money by keeping him around. From a business standpoint, Nick Diaz should be released like any other unruly employee in a company. From a personal standpoint, I like to watch Diaz fight, it doesn’t mean that his decisions aren’t dumb outside of he cage. if he is sick and he really needs the weed, he should go through all the appropriate channels to try and get that exmption if it is at all possible, but just not giving a fuck isn’t gonna cut it, if he keeps breaking rules he will be fired no matter how good he is.
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it’s the fact that he may cost the UFC money by keeping him around.
Why do you care if the UFC lost money (not sure how they lost money by this anyway)
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by RolloTomasi on Feb 9, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They lose more immediate money since the UFC can’t put him in a card soon since he will be suspended. Why do care? Because I am interested in things such as that.
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This isn't the NFL with upfront $$ in the contracts
They lose more immediate money since the UFC can’t put him in a card soon since he will be suspended.
If you can’t fight, you don’t get paid.
So how is the UFC losing money?
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No Diaz
means probably less PPV buys. Hence why it’s probably the reason they are keeping him.
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So they should compensate for the loss of his potential PPV buys
by cutting him?
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by RolloTomasi on Feb 9, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
well lets see what happened to others
because of tweeting. This is something more serious although i m glad it was “just” weed not something else and UFC is lucky, because Diaz didnt win the fight. If he won it would be ruled a no contest and we should wait for long enough to see him in the cage with GSP. He should have known what he s into and so should his camp period. I hope to see him fighting though because he is one of my favorites really but this one he has messed it up. If anyone its him who lost the most this time. and yupp the fans.
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Is it a PED if he needs it to be able to set foot in the cage because of his anxiety? I mean, if he wouldn’t be able to get in the cage in a state of sobriety because of his anxiety, and he smokes weed to be able to get in the cage, I’d say that’s a PED. IT allows him to perform where he would be unable to under normal circumstances. Now this is just a question and is hypothetical because I have no clue of that’s what he does but people have been saying, in these posts this past week, that he takes it for anxiety.
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by dedstrk316 on Feb 10, 2012 8:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was waiting for a 'slap yoself'.
You disappoint.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 10, 2012 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
Thats a bit of a stretch, he didn't "help" the UFC anymore than Diaz did
They both fought their fights. If youre going to rationalize Silva, you can also rationalize that Diaz needed weed as well. The difference is weed doesn’t put his opponent at a disadvantage. Please don’t tell me about weed giving Diaz any advantage, I’m talking about real life, not theory.
Police have mounted a Phuket-wide hunt
Or more likely.
Because he had a lingering lower back injury and would lose a payday if he didn’t.
Assuming that he tells the truth.
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by dancingChicken on Feb 10, 2012 6:16 AM EST up reply actions
What about anti-depressants? What if he practices yoga to relax?
What if he likes to get drunk to relax?
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You can take that up with the commission if you want, but the commission says you are not allowed to take it. Doing something you are not allowed to do = cheating. Again, I can’t possibly see a different definition here.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 9, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
doing something you are not allowed to do does not = cheating. What the F’ are you talking about. If a guy get’s caught traveling in basketball is it cheating? No it’s called a foul or a violation of rules and you get penalized. It’s not called cheating. He wasn’t trying to gain an unfair advantage or deceive anyone.
To call it cheating is stupid
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If you take an extra step in basketball
and you are not called on it you get an unfair advantage which means it’s cheating.
Diaz got caught with a banned substance in his body and is being penalized for it.
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actually fuck that. It was a bad analogy. A better one would be playing basketball with a jersey that wasn't tucked in or with a symbol that wasn't allowed
Now the player is breaking the rules and he’ll get fined a shit load. but is he cheating. FUCK NO. Because Nick Diaz wasn’t trying to gain an unfair advantage it wasn’t cheating.
So fucking clearly breakin the rules doesn’t= cheating
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I agree with that analogy
But a rule is a rule and he will get punished if he breaks it, no matter how ridiculous people think the rule is. He may not get released now, but if he keeps it up he could get the pink slip sooner rather than later.
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That argument is stupid.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
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no. To say that anything that breaks a rule in sport is cheating is stupid.
Its not only stupid but willfully fucking ignorant and means you know nothing about sports. Sorry
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Homie, you just equated traveling in basketball (something punishable by a couple of shots in the rules of the sport) with testing positive for weed (something punishable by up to a year on the sidelines of the sport you participate in).
Who doesn’t know anything about sports?
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Dude
No one gets foul shots for traveling. That’s a change in possession.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
For real? Wow, I’m outta touch. The Grizzlies left a long time ago, I musta lost track.
Still though, you wanna tell this kid that Shareef Abdur-Rahim deserves a year on the sidelines for 3 in the key?
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by tigerlee on Feb 10, 2012 1:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mike Bibby? He’s probably the only Grizz player left, right?
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
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he shoots he scores!
barely hanging on with the Knicks…
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
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he's been replaced
BY LINSANITY!!!!
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 1:53 AM EST up reply actions
Comments like that make me happy I don't watch basketball
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LINSANITY!!!!!!!!!!
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
I knew you'd respond to this lol
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
Lin actually has a really good story
As an undrafted player who went from a nobody with an un-guaranteed minimum contract, to a star within a week.
Together we are Ruining Your Special Night. Twice.
in a city with a huge Chinese
and Chinese-American population
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 2:13 AM EST up reply actions
It's lincredible how he took over the linteret
all he does is lin.
Together we are Ruining Your Special Night. Twice.
*writing these down for the next knicks game I go to
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 2:19 AM EST up reply actions
that's a incredibly black and white view on this subject
your well with in your right to have. but forgive the rest of us who egknowledge the difference tween steroid cheating and a guy smoking pot. there both banned true but even the ac has them classified different, ped and substance of abuse. I agree he should be punish and its well with in zuffas right to terminate him for His various headaches.
He knows the guy with the bandage on his ass is going no were. Were you going fucking no were
by Elstriko on Feb 10, 2012 12:16 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Eggknowledge?
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by Major B on Feb 10, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Well done
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
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I normally would have left it alone, but the plethora of grammatical errors in that post really made my head hurt.
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by Major B on Feb 10, 2012 1:12 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Just a guess...
English is not his/her primary language.
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by Harley hooper on Feb 10, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
You train at Ascension or live in the ATL?
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by Harley hooper on Feb 10, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
Sentence structure would suggest that they learned English as a primary language.
But…it also looks like they learned it from someone living under a bridge next to the Georgia Dome. :-)
Yes, I live in that area. And I USED to train at Ascension. Junior Assuncao closed the gym after he found out he was going to be heading back to the UFC. I can’t blame him. He was trying to make sure he was training full time and he told us he felt like he wasn’t treating us fairly by not being there as often as he should be.
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by Major B on Feb 10, 2012 1:27 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Has he ever really explained why he got cut again?
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Not that I know of.
We were all really shocked. The last fight wasn’t his best by any stretch, but none of us here thought he’d be cut after that, at least not for something performance based.
We were all hoping he’d get on the UFC Atlanta card. He’s got a big following down here.
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by Major B on Feb 10, 2012 1:48 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
All I say was him sayin “I got cut, dunno why” then something about a possible dispute with someone, but nothing after that. He might have a unique style, but IMO he mos def deserves to be in the UFC.
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He definitely does.
The man is absolutely batshit crazy, i’ll admit that. That’s what we love about him.
But he’s got an extremely high fight IQ. He’s an amazing BJJ player and his striking is very technical. Even he admits that during his first UFC run that he was young and immature and didn’t really know what he was getting himself into.
He definitely deserves to be back, and hopefully he will be soon.
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by Major B on Feb 10, 2012 1:56 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Hopefully, like you said, he can somehow get on the ATL card.
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Fingers crossed
but something tells me it probably won’t happen…
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by Major B on Feb 10, 2012 2:11 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Na trying to type super fast on a mobile
while working the 14 day of 12 hour sifts. sorry it was not to your standards a sincere mia copa
He knows the guy with the bandage on his ass is going no were. Were you going fucking no were
by Elstriko on Feb 10, 2012 1:40 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
nah, no blood, no foul
i’m just bitter because i’m working too much. haha.
it was all in light-hearted fun.
I don’t take anything on here too seriously
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by Major B on Feb 10, 2012 1:50 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
you and me in the same boat
I work to much and have shite for written English. its a nice stew for that monstrosity of a post you read
He knows the guy with the bandage on his ass is going no were. Were you going fucking no were
by Elstriko on Feb 10, 2012 1:57 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
might as well keep it going right?
it just the intrawebs not that serious ya know?
He knows the guy with the bandage on his ass is going no were. Were you going fucking no were
by Elstriko on Feb 10, 2012 11:20 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Nice..
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by Harley hooper on Feb 10, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
I think the difference is that
the colloquial definition of cheating is doing something illegal that gives you an advantage.
What Diaz did was more like unsportsmanlike conduct, wherein he blatantly broke the licensing rules, but not in a manner that gave him an unfair advantage.
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I get that, I’m just not 100% sold that there are NO advantages tobe gained from fighting while under the influence of marijuana.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 10, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
There are different levels of cheating. There’s Nick smoking weed to deal with anxiety and there are things like what Margarito did. They are lightyears different and to say Nick should be fired is ridiculous, utterly ridiculous.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 9, 2012 11:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah. Maragarito is a cheating bastard. Nick is just a dumbass.
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by TheLastEmpress on Feb 9, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Nick Diaz is a hero. He is a legend who is willing to sacrifice his paycheck
to right this wrong. Yes. He will be suspended and fined. But the idea of having liberty to put whatever the heck you want to put in your body as long as you don’t hurt others will be legal someday. I am sure nobody is talking about boycotting companies that use child labor or people like Sonnen who are criminals in the real estate business. No. People like Steve Jobs and Chael Sonnen should be admired. But some poor dude who smokes weed and knows to fight, yes. Just fire him.
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by SheepleBuster on Feb 9, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
Fire Steve Jobs! And I am sick of everyone on BE constantly defending Sonnen against his federal conviction for mortgage fraud! I will return shortly with additional straw men for us to defeat!
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Shit if they're gonna keep Thiago Silva after he fought on PEDs
They’re gonna keep Nick. Guy gets people talking about UFC good or bad.
The key is to hit the guy in the jaw really hard before the other guy does it to you.
by FreeLightningLee on Feb 9, 2012 9:46 PM EST reply actions
How do you not see the difference between a first time and repeat offender?
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I don't consider testing + for weed twice
Anywhere near as bad as knowingly use fake urine to hide whatever he trying to hide. But that’s just me.
The key is to hit the guy in the jaw really hard before the other guy does it to you.
by FreeLightningLee on Feb 9, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
You dont.
But hey, you arent the AC. And again, just because you say ‘its only weed, bro’ doesnt dent the fact that it is illegal. period.
The AC says you cant use it, then dont use it!
by Ricardo Arguello on Feb 9, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't say it should be legal or that Nick shouldn't be suspended
I am saying that if they’re gonna employ guys who have tested positive for PEDs, they aren’t gonna cut ties with one of the most poloarzing figures in MMA because he tested + for weed even if its twice.
The key is to hit the guy in the jaw really hard before the other guy does it to you.
by FreeLightningLee on Feb 9, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
They're both banned substances. I don't see the difference.
Add to that this is Diaz’s second time effing up a potential fight and I don’t see a strong argument to keep him around.
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
because money makes the strongest argument of all
Don't make bets with Subo. He doesn't honor his agreements.
What money?
Diaz’s price tag is pretty heavy, should that be taken into account here?
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
For what the UFC rakes in overall no one has a heavy price tag. Not Anderson, not Brock, certainly not Nick. The money they make is a drop in the bucket to the overall revenue.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 9, 2012 11:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Chris Leben is also a repeat offender
They won’t cut Nick Diaz unless he tweeted a rape joke.
by amendamatrix on Feb 9, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 17 recs
LOL THIS!!!
..
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They shouldnt cut him
They should wait his suspension out and have him fight Fitch, Koscheck and Ellenberger.
Then cut him once he losses to all these wrestlers
by Ricardo Arguello on Feb 9, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions
I don't think any of those fights are guaranteed losses for Diaz
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by Chris Hall on Feb 9, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Depending on how this goes, we may never know. Though I think a great wrestler with smothering top game is Diaz’s weakness
by Ricardo Arguello on Feb 9, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Kos isn't really known for his smothering top game
I think he’d get work by Diaz. Especially today’s Koscheck.
The key is to hit the guy in the jaw really hard before the other guy does it to you.
by FreeLightningLee on Feb 9, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
youre right
I forgot Koscheck is pretty bad now. Though I was using him as an example because Diaz cant handl his double
by Ricardo Arguello on Feb 9, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
But Kos loves his hands now and Diaz doesn't make it easy for anyone who wants to grapple with him.
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Yup but Ellenberger is a whole different factor
He may probably win .. of course now i dont mean the pre-fight psychologies.. Cerrone could have won Nate too if he doesnt get sucked up with this macho game …
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Though I think a great wrestler with smothering top game is Diaz’s weakness
Diaz has never been LnP’d
Ever.
Every loss he’s had to wrestlers has been close.
He should have been given the nod over Sherk.
Youtube it.
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by RolloTomasi on Feb 9, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Youtube a UFC fight?
Good luck.
by The so-called Beautiful on Feb 10, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
Kos & Ellenberger would be in grave danger of getting subbed
Fitch might be able to blanket a decision “win”
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 10, 2012 2:36 AM EST up reply actions
BULLSHIT
His suspension is punishment enough.
by PRINTMATIC on Feb 9, 2012 9:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. If the UFC wants to be taken seriously, they have to get rid of repeat offenders that obviously don’t care to follow the rules.
repeat offender?
when was his first episode of failing a drug test while employed by the UFC?
He tested positive in NV once before
I think thats where people say repeat offender. Dont matter if its in the UFC.
by Ricardo Arguello on Feb 9, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Guillard has been caught greasing and with cocaine. I don’t hear you saying he should be cut.
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by TheLastEmpress on Feb 9, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
When did Guillard get caught greasing?
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Back in the day
In 2005 Guillard fought against Roger Huerta. After Guillard took a competitive decision victory, the fight was ruled a no contest after Huerta appealed the commission making an accusation that Guillard was greasing between rounds and that he was very slippery since the start of the 2nd round.
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If you read above, I dont think he should be cut
Im just stating hes a repeat offender
by Ricardo Arguello on Feb 9, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Holy 8-ballz, Batman
greasing with cocaine?!? OMG that must have cost…oh wait…I read that wrong, Carry on.
Who cares if it’s the first time with the UFC or not… his career before the UFC matters. And besides, after the stunt Diaz pulled around UFC 137 not showing up to a couple of press conferences, and now this, the UFC and Dana can’t be too hot on Diaz right now… he’s making a mockery out of the UFC.
why does his career before the UFC matter to the UFC?
if mcdonalds fired you for eating fries on the job, does that mean that burger king should fire you 6 years later.
analogies. they work.
It's kind of hard to make a mockery of the UFC
I mean, I’m a big fan of their product, but their corporate face is Dana White, and I don’t think he’s ever spoken a complete paragraph that could be put out if that dude has ever spoken a complete paragraph that could be put out unedited by a major news outlet. That being said, I still think the UFC would be within their rights to dump Diaz.
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by KingBrody on Feb 10, 2012 10:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
D'oh
Although, in my defense, my incoherence is fit for a family newspaper.
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
um...no
My daddy didn't come to my play in 2nd grade so now I do MMA.
by RandyCouture'sDivorceLawyer on Feb 9, 2012 9:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I won’t stand for a Tucker Max fanatic calling me pathetic.
by smoogy2 on Feb 9, 2012 9:57 PM EST reply actions 26 recs
Fair.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 9, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha unreal
Ohhhhhhh CANADA - Georges St. Pierre, right here is where he calls home, and smoking marijuana, we consider it legal.
by Austin Wilson on Feb 9, 2012 10:09 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I don't care for him
and picked Condit to beat him, but if he does his time, he should be able to make a living like anyone else. If someone wants to pay him to beat somebody up, that’s cool by me, UFC or Bum Fights.
by Dootch on Feb 9, 2012 9:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I disagree
The Nevada Athletic commission considers weed illegal, which is fair enough. However, the state of CA considers medical marijuana legal under certain circumstances. Regardless of your view of CA medical marijuana and whether you think they give cards out for minor reasons or not, Nick Diaz’s use of marijuana is legal in a sense. Moreover, there’s no proof he actively used marijuana under the Nevada AC’s jurisdiction (i.e. the marijuana was probably in his system from usage in CA).
People defend Diaz not because they are “ignoring his transgressions”, but because they do not see his marijuana usage as a transgression IMO
Doesn't matter at all.
Nikc Diaz is a contractor employed by the UFC to fight in any state that they line up. As such, it’s his responsibility to comply with ALL of their various requirements. He didn’t do that. Regardless of where he actually used weed, he popped on a test administered in Nevada where it’s prohibited.
If you want to have an argument about how weed should be legal or speed limits or stupid, the time to have those arguments is not after pissing hot or getting pulled over.
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by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Feb 9, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Way to spin a crappy opinion piece with no substance out of a mild controversy. Where were you when Sonnen got popped and was under Federal fraud investigation?
by Redconsensus on Feb 9, 2012 10:00 PM EST reply actions 15 recs
lol
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Diaz fans are like runway lights at airports
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 9, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Please explain to the stupids like me.
I don’t get your analogy.
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You can see them from miles away.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 9, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
That's stupid
He specifically addressed Sonnen’s situation in the article. Maybe you should read before posting.
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This article was not written when Sonnen was under investigation. “Where were you?” ≠ “Where are you?” A lesser man might point out that it looks like you maybe didn’t follow your own advice.
I don’t really agree with Redconsensus’s point or how he presented it, but I wouldn’t be so condescending or dismissive based on that.
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by discoandherpes on Feb 10, 2012 6:13 AM EST up reply actions
meh
Chris Leben is with the company still.
I’ll be nice and not say this any meaner, but you’re almost certainly wrong here. Morally, business- and precedent-wise.
The ONLY counterargument I could see would be Marquardt, but he blew it before the fight, scrapping it, not after, when most of the casuals don’t know/care
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 9, 2012 10:01 PM EST reply actions 18 recs
Well, if I recall correctly Nate had also fucked up his medicals for the Dan Miller fight
and was given a conditional license based on testing within regular levels out of competition. Therefore, he was a two time [in a row] offender. Correct me if I’m mis-remembering this though.
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Nate failed to properly handle things in time for the Miller fight. As a result he was given a conditional license which included post-fight conditions, which he then failed to meet, thus resulting in not being cleared for the fight in PA but somehow not making the provisional clearance invalid and costing him his win in NJ. I’m still perplexed by that, albeit I am not unbiased on the issue.
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I whiffed on that so badly... thanks.
The argument is actually that he is a THREE time offender.
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I've been making fun of butthurt Diaz fans for the last couple of days
Posting pictures of babies crying, all kinds of stuff. But man, even I don’t agree with you.
by Scott Whitaker on Feb 9, 2012 10:02 PM EST reply actions 16 recs
I’m trying to picture Nate somewhere yelling: “Fuck them man, you passed the shit out of those tests! Both the a and b sample! They got nothing!”
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
by Stanlee on Feb 9, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 21 recs
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 9, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
You're an American hero
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 10, 2012 2:39 AM EST up reply actions
A+
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This just doesn’t happen. Even multiple steroid offenders with legal problems don’t get fired (see: Leben, Chris). There is absolutely no reason to fire Diaz over this. If you’re going to keep Sonnen, a racist, steroid-abusing felon, on the roster, then it makes no goddamn sense at all to fire Diaz.
by jammin.. on Feb 9, 2012 10:03 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
If this author really wants to see Nick punished...
…then releasing Nick from the UFC is not the way to do it.
If Nick gets released, he doesn’t have to sit out a year.
He can continue to fight on the international circuit where guys like Aoki and Fedor make plenty of money fighting lesser known and/or subpar competition.
Call the UFC soft on drugs all you want, but at least they honor state suspensions across the board and don’t allow their fighters to commission shop.
And if it’s the UFC’s integrity this author is so concerned with…To the general public, the UFC will look ridiculous if they cut Nick for weed after allowing Chael and Thiago to return after serving roid suspensions.
by YODA YODA on Feb 9, 2012 10:05 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
bloody elbow just jumped the shark with dis yo
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by THEFILMGUY on Feb 9, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 10, 2012 2:40 AM EST up reply actions
absolutely he should be released.
He can’t be trusted and is a total liability.
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 9, 2012 10:12 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
How people can still give a shit about Nick Diaz is beyond me. This guy obviously has no respect for the sport he competes in, or any of his fans that cling to his nutsack. Not only does he bitch every time he loses about how he should’ve won, but he’s fucked up the biggest opportunities of his career by missing conferences and failing drug tests. Multiple times.
by savik on Feb 9, 2012 10:13 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
The postfight bitching was really quite a turn off.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 9, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Because maybe we just care about how he fights and not about all that other bullshit.
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by Shotokanman on Feb 9, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
i guess i am pathetic.
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by ekc on Feb 9, 2012 10:15 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
“In what way is taken a substance you are specifically not allowed to take (and, it must be noted, is illegal) NOT cheating?”
Because marijuana is not a performance enhancing drug. Testing positive for it is not the same as testing positive for steroids. He’s not making himself a better fighter or getting an edge over his competition with it. If anything its harder to do active stuff when you use it.
by City Lights on Feb 9, 2012 10:17 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
They'er both banned substances. Testing positive = to testing positive. I don't see any difference here.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 9, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I don't care what anybody does outside of entertaining ME with violence
if the supervising body says XYZ is banned and you fight under their supervision, just don’t use XYZ. Regardless of your opinion of XYZ.
Just stop the fucking nonsense already.
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Again, take that up with the commission.
Look, you can argue about the legality/usefulness/whatever of marijuana all you want, but it is a banned substance, and if you take a banned substance, you are breaking the rules. Breaking the rules is the definition of cheating. Seriously, that’s cheating.
Now, you want to say it shouldn’t be cheating, and it shouldn’t be banned? Fine, that’s a totally fair argument to make, and a worthwhile discussion topic. But to say he didn’t cheat is weird. He broke the rules, he cheated.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 9, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Again, taking pot relaxes him. Without it, he’s probably an anxious mess. Well, a bigger anxious mess. How is that not an advantage in his case?
Are you fucking serious? Taking medicine to deal with his anxiety is equal to gaining an advantage? Please. That’s batshit insane.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 9, 2012 11:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 6 recs
It’s illicit medicine. He can go through the proper channels to get that awful anti-anxiety shit that pharmaceutical companies make, or he can use a superior medicine (for him – not everyone) which is illegal.
Yes, I know it’s dumb. But pot is a PED for him.
I’m sorry, calling pot a PED for dealing with real anxiety is fucking crazy. The pharma stuff is one thing but pot is much better, if it’s the right strain, in dealing with anxiety. Especially things like panic attacks. Klonopin takes an hour to kick in. Xanax sucks. You don’t know what you are talking about if you are calling it a PED. That’s like calling seizure medicine a PED for epileptics.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 9, 2012 11:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Dude, that’s what I’m saying – for a lot of people, pot is better than the medication that the athletic commissions let you use. It helps him get through his day-to-day life and for sure it helps with his training.
Of course marijuana shouldn’t be illegal and it’s unjust and blah blah blah, but it is, and that’s the argument you can make that Diaz used a PED.
A PED is something that makes you perform above what a normal person can. Anxiety issues make you perform at less than what a normal person can. That’s the reasoning for TUE of TRT. Nick is not plagued by performance in the cage, like a TRT user is. He is plagued by the marketing leading up to the fight in the cage. In the cage, he is fine. In front of a gaggle of journalists he is not. There is a huge fuck difference.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 10, 2012 1:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Then why didn’t he apply for a fucking TUE?
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
Popping for elevated levels testosterone due to TRT (or anything else) – Fail.
Popping for elevated levels of marijuana metabolites – Fail.
While there’s an ethical argument between the two, they’re both illegal under NSAC rules and are punished in the same way.
Right or wrong? No “yeah, but…” Is that right or wrong?
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by DankNabbot on Feb 10, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If pot is a PED for him
Then Condit would obviously beat the shit out of him in a rematch sans pot.
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Why didn’t Nick even ASK for a therapeutic exemption?
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 9, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s a lot easier to feel sorry for a guy that did what he was supposed to do.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he was SUPPOSED to be a bad ass rebel and not give a fuck.
Mission accomplished.
So feel sorry for him.
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know
But it’s probably not a good habit to get into.
You may never be able to stop.
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uh oh
you got it on you
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Dear God!
I’m never going to be able to post a thought again.
Without breaking it up into multiple lines of text.
Still, it’s better than wall of text posts.
People will still love me right?
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as long as you say "shit" or "Goddammit" occasionally we will be able to tell the difference
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know, but maybe it’s time for a Leland Roling post. Leland Roling posts, named after the verbose, long-winded Bloody Elbow author, are a specific kind of lovely. Lovely is a word that simply puts “ly” on the end of “love”, turning a noun into an adjective – but only if you believe love is real. I remember when I was a child…
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
It is ALWAYS time for a Leland Roling post
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
My guess would be that it is b/c he's ashamed.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
Of smoking weed?
C’mon now. If Dan Henderson and Todd Duffee can get TRT exemptions, why can’t Nick apply for one for HIS prescribed, banned substance?
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
B/c it is my guess he uses it b/c he’s afraid of looking dumb when a bunch of people ask him stuff and he feels he looks like a moron.
It isn’t b/c he smokes but b/c he smoked and fucked up b/c that bunch of people with their questions frighten him.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
To Haters...
people cling to Diaz because he is REAL. Most of these fighters are fake as shit. Big deal he smoked weed, he will get suspended. Punishment enough.
by version815 on Feb 9, 2012 10:19 PM EST via Android app reply actions 9 recs
To Enablers
Maybe Diaz needs to realize there are consequences to his actions.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 9, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
And you're a Rampage fan...
Whatever happened to Quinton after he was charged with those FELONIES?
Oh yeah, nothing.
You live in a glass house.
by Bobby Flay on Feb 9, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I am a Rampage fan. That was also a single offense.
Diaz has repeatedly proven to be a liability. Do you fail to see the difference? I can draw you a picture
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Yes, please draw me a picture distinguishing the difference between being a proven liability vs. a single offense. Then upload it somewhere. Then embed it in your reply.
Please.
I think this pretty much covers it
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by Chris Hall on Feb 10, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
In natural numbers, yes.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
You know how I hate to disappoint you. Can we still be friends?
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4000 PPV buys equals Diaz’s paycheck! he sold 10 times that. That’s all the math Emperor White cares about. Don’t tell me about Condit. He is a fine fighter, but his whole hokey “warrior” routine couldn’t sell water to a man on fire. Runtellthat y’all!
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by Mr. Socko on Feb 10, 2012 12:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
8000. The UFC gets about half of each PPV purchase
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Still that’s 50×. Would you get rid of stock you had in a company paying you 50x your investment price?
by Armleglegarm Head on Feb 10, 2012 2:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
When was Rampage charged with felonies?
Also, if the charges were dropped, why would they cut/fine/suspend him? Also, no one’s accusing Diaz of anything, the AC is saying they have a test of his that failed. Also, what the fuck am I even doing here.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
true but so should his camp... i m sorry for all this
I dearly hope we wont lose Nich Diaz because of all this because he is clearly a personality which is so rare to see in the fighting world. I m sorry for all this shit and i m sorry he will get suspended and fined its a pretty bad punishment for him after losing this fight.
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I don’t want to see him cut
But I would like to see him have to legitimately earn his way back up the rankings and not be given special treatment because he’s obnoxious and draws attention to himself through his stupid antics. Put him back in against mid-tier guys and make him fight his way through the UFC welterweight division if he wants another crack at a title shot.
He hasn’t fought a wrestler is years and I honestly think he would never have gotten this close to a UFC title shot if he hadn’t left and gone to Strikeforce to rack up a huge win streak. He’s game in a scrap but I don’t think he has the skill or the intelligence to defeat fighters who are more interested in winning than hurting their opponent.
That said, I’m not going to cry about it if he does get cut. It’s a shame for Dana and co because there was a lot of money to be made off him but you just can’t trust the guy to get anywhere near a title shot or headline a PPV. It’s not a risk with Diaz, more a matter of time and you don’t want a guy like that with your title. What if he’d beaten Condit last week?
If Dana is smart he gets cut or is given unfavourable fights until his brand isn’t worth anything anymore.
by Detective Squirts on Feb 9, 2012 10:19 PM EST reply actions
No one is fucking firing Diaz.
First of all, the argument “rules are rules” doesn’t apply to marijuana.
Get a fucking grip on reality son.
by goodbones on Feb 9, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
His suspension says otherwise.
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by Tim Burke on Feb 9, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
As do the police. And the thousands of people in jail for marijuana possession.
Note – I am NOT saying Nick Diaz should be arrested, so put those straw men away.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 9, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
It's a damn shame that out tax money goes towards arresting, jailing, and prosecute Marijuana offenders
when we have a goddamn crippling economic recession.
I understand that he broke the rules, but c’mon. Stupid rule.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 10, 2012 2:43 AM EST up reply actions
Where was al this outrage when it turned out that Sonnen not only tested off the charts for testosterone, and was subsequently found guilty of money laundering in connection with mortgage fraud?
Also, here’s Sonnen’s joke that he made some while ago:
"My phone rings, they call me up and say, ‘Chael, your testosterone level is too high.’ I say, ‘Well, how high was it?’ They say, ’0.7.’ I said, ‘What’s normal?’ They say, ’0.6.’ I said, ‘One-tenth? You’re telling me I’m one-tenth higher than the average man? Re-test that – you must have caught me on a low day.’"
Either way, what example are we trying to follow?
The NBA has Kobe Bryant, remember?He was accused of rape in 2003. Here’s a snippet of his words:
“I also want to make it clear that I do not question the motives of this young woman. No money has been paid to this woman. She has agreed that this statement will not be used against me in the civil case. Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”
Then he settled out of court and he’s still earning millions of dollars.
The NFL has Michael Vick. Known dog murderer and overall fuck-all. He’s still running around and earning a hefty living.
Nick Diaz smokes weeds, fucks his employer’s plans to make some dough, but he’s still got potential to make even more dough. yeah, let’s fire this guy.
Again, Mr. Burke, why should Diaz be fired, and according to what standard of comparison?
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by Unabomberman on Feb 9, 2012 10:21 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
Who made that Sonnen joke?
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Because I still care to see Diaz fight in 2013 I am pathetic?
that’s a pretty fucking wack statement right there Burke.
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by Shotokanman on Feb 9, 2012 10:21 PM EST reply actions 16 recs
It's pathetic is what it is ;P
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by RolloTomasi on Feb 9, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
No
Tim Burke just
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by RolloTomasi on Feb 9, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
He deserves to get released but I won’t care if he doesn’t. And I don’t think it’s pathetic to get excited for any future Nick Diaz fights. The guy is massively entertaining to watch — an elite talent. I’d say it’s more pathetic to get all pious over a guy testing positive for marijuana.
by jpayne on Feb 9, 2012 10:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't wanna get banned but
You’ll see Nick Diaz in the octagon in 2013. And people will still care. And that’s pathetic.
You just called me pathetic.
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by RolloTomasi on Feb 9, 2012 10:26 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
No, he said it’s pathetic that people still care about Diaz. He didn’t say that only pathetic people care about Diaz. There’s a difference.
by Shnak on Feb 9, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Pfff please GTFO with that shit.
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by RolloTomasi on Feb 9, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Hey, not my fault you can’t comprehend what you’re reading… try to do that before you go off on a writer next time.
by Shnak on Feb 9, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I've never been on twitter in my life.
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by RolloTomasi on Feb 9, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It can be seen both ways.
You’ll see Nick Diaz in the octagon in 2013. And people will still care. And that’s pathetic.
And it could be argued that it is pretty damn irresponsible to write that given how people get stoked so easily. They could get pissed, feel disrespected and just leave, the traffic would go down for a lil’ bit, the site would start generating a little less revenue
I’m not calling for him to get fired, though. I’m a nice guy like that.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 9, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
No, there isn’t.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 9, 2012 10:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Ohhhhh, so you're just saying that the only pathetic thing is the thing I care about!
I feel much better.
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It's simple
He’s a walking liability. He doesn’t show up to pressers, threatens to quit when he loses, and tests positive for a banned substance after a championship bout. And this is all within six months. I guarantee that you would get fired if you didn’t show up to company meetings, threatened to quit when you didn’t get a raise/position that you wanted, and failed a mandatory drug test.
aimed at the crotch...
by Damon O. on Feb 9, 2012 10:31 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
Mike Vick
Ben Rothlessberger
Gilbert Arenas
Plaxico Burress
All still playing pro sports because there is a demand for their services (just like there is a need for an exciting fighter like Nick Diaz)
And those dudes did some fucked up shit. Much worse than poping for weed and missing a press conference.
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And they should all still be fired too
And it’s not even the fact that he got popped for weed. It’s that he blatantly broke a rule. Why can’t people understand that.
aimed at the crotch...
And the argument is that he Should be fired, not that he will be.
Which stands for every one of those examples.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 9, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At least you are coherent in keeping up with your incoherent opinion.
You forget that coherence doesn’t rule the business of sports, though. But as incoherent as it is, your incoherence doesn’t fit.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 9, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or wilfull ignorance?
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That would be sheisty.
I don’t think he did it out of a “Fack off y’all” attitude.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
when you’re their boss then you can make that call. You’re saying right now that Diaz should be cut cuz he’s unreliable and it’s the right business decision for Dana White to make.
As a fan who give’s a shit about that. As a fan I’m more concerned with the kind of fights we get then how much this annoys Dana as a company owner.
He missed press conferences…….oh no. We all see how much that hurt UFC publicity and the UFC’s bottom line right? Wrong if anything it did wonders for them.
This is his first time caught with weed in the UFC. If Dana can put up with all the shit other fighters have done in terms of violating the law, etc, cutting Diaz shouldn’t even be an option.
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by Robust23 on Feb 9, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
The stupids are on the loose sir
and it is fucking infuriating
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 9, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
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shut up troll
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 9, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
seriously dude
chase me across multiple threads today with this “u mad” bullshit just because I have a different opinion. I never came at you dude. Grow up, typical Diaz fan.
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 9, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
What?
I never chased you. I was already here.
Why are you so touchy I thought we were cool.
You are waaaay too worked up.
Get laid or something brah.
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we are cool for sure. i guess that is why im getting annoyed.
I am at Diaz overload right now and apparently its making me a grumpy butt.
Sorry, bro.
Mods, feel free to delete my being a jerk. I’d appreciate it, lol
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
lol
Damon O just warned me.
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by RolloTomasi on Feb 10, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Or don’t say people need to get laid
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Jeez Diaz really brings the serious out in this house.
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by RolloTomasi on Feb 10, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
I’m an expert in what pisses BE mods off.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You do have a wealth of experience
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I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
And mock arguments, not people.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
also,
Just don’t say bro. Or brah. Just don’t.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyron Woodley fight.
Huh.. no bro or bruh :(
how bout brethren.
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by Harley hooper on Feb 10, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
Brethren is acceptable
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he said again!
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my bad dude.
sorry for getting you warned.
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Oh it's cool
I think it’s funny.
Our first fight.
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by RolloTomasi on Feb 10, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
i would prefer a box of wine
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
He'll probably get another one for talking about his warning.
Rollo don’t learn…like Diaz
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Everyone needs to chill
Smoke some weed or something
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by IRodC on Feb 10, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
lol
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Sure got quiet in here
aimed at the crotch...
by Damon O. on Feb 10, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I AIN'T SCURRED OF YOU
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Can I also be banned many times and still keep posting?
How does that work?
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
You must beat Deo in a gif-off
Subo just gave out handjobs
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That's commitment.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
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Melvin and I say: Please visit
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I'm not hating
Just stating facts
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What does handjobs mean?
I was always wondering how this cutting off works…
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I doubt anyone wants to explain
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 10, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
No.
My record will remain forever. Wade’s already promised to ban me as many times as necessary to maintain it.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Don't forget your annual Birthday bans
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HAHA
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Glad you laughed...it's not a joke tho...
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Not at all
Did Subo attempt to get banned on his birthday?
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 11, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
But how can you keep posting?
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
magic
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by Harley hooper on Feb 9, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
they’ve been gearing up since the fight ended on saturday, but official word of the test seems to have burst the dam, good luck my freind.
Stupid
It’s contagious
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Well
I just had a calculus exam, got the answer key at the end of the test, and housed that mofo! I ain’t gots the Stupid! What! What! 209!
Oh crap…I am catching it I think…
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 10, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe it's because I'm austrian, but your cry for oder and obedience reminds me of
I know it’s a little bit much, but as long as a rule violation just falls back on the person who violates it, I don’t care. Call him out for being stupid or whatever, yet calling for absolut law and order gives me the creeps
Besides the brawl
He made it through strikeforce just fine .
Not if I’m a top earner.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 9, 2012 11:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Please
Nick Diaz was known to be a volatile commodity when he was signed by the UFC. It’s not like Dana didn’t know what he was getting when he signed him.
As for doing stupid shit in your 9-5 and getting fired? Corporate America has been known to look the other way on plenty of character/legal issues with employees as long as they are performing. Sure, maybe not at the average day job at McDonalds, but if you don’t think the dudes on Wall Street aren’t popping pills, snorting lines, banging strippers, and doing all kinds of crazy shit, you are high on something yourself. Obviously, once it begins affecting your performance in the workplace and you no longer become productive, that’s when the man starts to take notice and pays you a little visit.
They day Nick Diaz stops performing, trust me, he will be cut instantly. Until then, Dana will decide when his character flaws out-trump his usefulness to the UFC.
It’s a bidness man, ain’t nothing more than that.
by Dan A. White on Feb 10, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
I'm thinking people are confusing "should" and "will"
What Mr. Monster is trying to say is that Nick Diaz could harm the UFC if he gets in an advantageous position in the company.
He is a repeat offender and has often expressed that he doesn’t really care much about anything except fighting. That type of attitude should not be tolerated by a company such as the UFC, since by keeping Diaz is taking the risk of having something like this happen after let’s say Diaz winning the WW championship. The UFC is playing with fire and keeping Nick Diaz around might burn them, regardless of what people think about the subject of marijuana.
I understand the point that he is trying to make, I don’t necessarily agree with it and the UFC will probably not release Diaz since he seems to be bringing some eyes to the promotion.
But sure… WHAT, NAW MAN THEY SHOULD KEEP HIM AND WHATEVER, YOU KNOW 209 AND YOUR FACE IS PATHETIC!!!!!!
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I don't think he should be released.
But he sure as shit shouldn’t get off with a fucking slap on the wrist for this shit anymore like he always has.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 10, 2012 2:48 AM EST up reply actions
Nick Diaz is a money maker
He’s one of the UFC’s top 10 draws. In a hypthetical fairy tale world you may cut a guy for breaking a few trivial rules. In the real world where money and profit are king, you don’t
Also, this is the fighting business – not the role model business. He’s not a grade school teacher that failed two drug tests. He’s a fighter. The UFC isn’t building a brand of Ultimate Nice Guys. He’s a fighter. No one cares if he smokes weed.
by Mongoose44 on Feb 9, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Diaz has had exactly one PPV do decent draws
There’s absolutely no reason to tout him as a PPV king
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I'm not touting him as a "PPV King"
But I don’t think touting him as a top 10 PPV draw moving forward is unreasonable.
Unless he tests positive for a banned substance after a fight
and gets suspended yet again for a year or more.
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Granted, the UFC doesn't have a lot of proven draws
But Diaz really hasn’t done anything to show he is a money maker.
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Name 10 draws better than Diaz.
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Name more than 5 proven draws.
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When I said top 10 draws...
I was forecasting. But let’s say “legimate card headliner” which he has done now twice and my points stands. Which is, you don’t cut an asset of that magnitude for something as trival as smoking weed ( in this industry anyway).
What magnitude?
My point still stands that he’s not proven to be a draw of any level. A year layoff is not going to help that.
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Would you agree he's headline 2 cards
And that the UFC would continue to feel comfortable with him headlining cards. An asset of that magnitude.
He's headlined two cards yes.
Would the UFC be ready to have him keep headlining after he’s proven that he can’t be expected to fulfill his obligations? I have no idea, and neither do you. And, at best we won’t know for another year.
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400k buys in today’s PPV landscape is damn good. He was the draw on the card. Hell, most of their champs aside from Anderson and Georges, would be able to pop that number with the undercard 143 had.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 9, 2012 11:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It was a welterweight title fight
Title fights in general draw more than non-title PPVs. And I’m not saying the numbers aren’t solid, but I don’t think Diaz is the sole reason, either.
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An interim fight. Everyone knows GSP is the champ and that title is made of paper.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 9, 2012 11:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
people keep saying this, but the UFC keeps trotting out these paper belts to make money, I wonder who is right.
Yeah, they had so much faith in the interim belt that they put Mir/Carwin on a GSP card. Interim belts are silly when the champ is going to be fighting this year, especially when it’s GSP.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 9, 2012 11:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yes i think Werdum was the other big draw for PPV
is it just me ?..
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They don’t have 10 draws. Outside of GSP, Jones, and maybe Anderson, you can switch anyone with anyone else and they’ll all do terrible numbers. It remains to be seen whether Diaz is #4, or if UFC 143 was a one-off deal.
Machida, Shogun, Rampage, Evans are all above-average draws, to name a few. WW is rather weak in draws, though. That’s what happens when they all look horrible to GSP, I suppose.
I think the title had a lot to do with UFC 143's 400k
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The interim title may have confused a few casuals into buying it, but Primetime and GSP are probably the main reasons.
Yup
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Ditto.
Hopefully, this means good things for Jones vs. Evans and Sonnen vs. Silva II.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Feb 10, 2012 2:25 AM EST up reply actions
Shogun and Rampage nowadays aren’t as good as they were previously… but both Shogua/Machida fights did very well, so did Rampage/Evans. Then again, both Shogun/Machida fights were title fights, and Rampage/Evans was long brewing feud between two TUF coaches. So yeah, maybe they aren’t very good draws afterall.
Still, to say that Diaz is a money maker after a 280k and 400k performances, yeah, not quite.
Right now i think the biggest draws are Chael Sonnen, GSP, Anderson and Jones
Also newcomers like Overeem who will soon mean a huge draw , Bisping possibly too, what about Faber or José Aldo?
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Chael hasn't really done anything to prove he's a draw either
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That is absolutely ridiculous. Diaz has done absolutely nothing to show that he’s a “money maker”. He did horrible at UFC 137 against a well-known BJ Penn… then he did 400k here at UFC 143 in an interim title fight on a superbowl card… replace him with Ellenberger and that card still does 400k. For as many fans Diaz apparently has, he doesn’t sell that many PPV’s…
I doubt there are 10 guys..
…with more selling power than Diaz. For kicks, lets say he’s top 20. My point stands.
No, your point is wrong. You’re saying he’s a money maker. I’m saying he hasn’t proven that yet. I’m right, you’re wrong.
I really think that the Penn fight
Elevated his drawing power quite a lot. he exciting, a high volume always go forward striker, he’s a polarizing figure, he has a superb chin, he has a great gas tank and always goes full bore. I have no problem saying his drawing power will only increase if they continue fighting him. He is the perfect fighter for the “Just let em bleed” crowd as he is willing to stand and trade all day with anyone. Aside from the weed and occasional publicity snafu, which may have done more to hype all the crazy stuff that came after than we all realize, cuz hey…
Guess who we’re talking about. Again. Guy makes buzz. Guys who make buzz sell fights. A prediction of higher draws in the future is a safe bet.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyron Woodley fight.
Bullshit, no way Ellenberger gets more than 250k, tops.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 9, 2012 11:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Michael Vick isn't hurting the NFL
Nick Diaz won’t hurt the UFC
by R.L.H. on Feb 9, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
He certainly isn't doing much to help it
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 9, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Who?
Vick or Diaz?
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Diaz.
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 9, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
i cant see it
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
thats what she said
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Michael Vick is bad for the UFC
Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters
by SSreporters on Feb 10, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
The UFC is bad for Michael Vick
If he would have done Human Cockfighting instead of Dogfighting he could be taking around Gulfstream IV’s, banging Arianny (allegedly) and calling people fuckers and assholes on Twitter for a living
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
HAAAAAAA :D
This!
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Marijuana as a "banned substance" already is bullshit
He should not be released, he should however be on a short leash.
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This would be jumping to conclusions but I think it merits a bit of discussion
If he is put on a short leash, you don’t think Diaz would do it again with all his Not-give-a-fuck-ness?
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He totally would do it again
I don’t like the rule that pot is an illegal substance, but FFS if he can’t learn a 3rd time he’s done.
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Yup agreed
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He was already put on a short leash after the crap he pulled days before UFC 137… now he’s making the UFC look stupid for not cutting him before UFC 137.
I think lil loyalty from the boss is appropriate at least untill a hearing is concluded
There are other factors that need to be considered before significant decisions are made. For example Kizer has made it clear that the reason MJ is banned is because of possible negative side effects to the user during combat or even possible benefits like reduction in pain. All of that is fine Mr. Kizer but you did not perform a test to determine the combatant’s current impairement, you conducted a test to see if the combatant had used MJ for a period of up to 3 months prior to the test. If they have a blood sample from Nick he should request that the blood be examined for THC to determine if there was any impairment at the time of combat. If he can somehow make the commssion confront the fact that their tests don’t accomplish their intended purpose (testing for current impairment) then he might find some leniency. Obviously, he needs to get some documentation illustrating his need for MJ from a reputable Dr. asap .
I know it’s not as simple as I’ve just made it out and there are many dynamics at play but I do think Nick can mount some type of worthy defense. It seems that making a strong effort in front of the commssion is almost always well received and could result in a 6mo suspension vs. an entire year. If he’s prepared to be tested a shit load of times he could just deny it and hope for a similiar outcome but i dont think he wants to go that route.
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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 9, 2012 10:41 PM EST reply actions
If Diaz wants loyalty from the UFC he should be a reliable performer.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 9, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he is. and you dont fire a productive employee w/o a fair hearing first. That’s all I’m getting at. Fairer the better.
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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 9, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
How is he reliable?
He lost an anticipated bout with GSP because he’s unreliable. And he just lost his rematch with Condit for the same reason. That’s two cases of Diaz’s inability to control his own actions that have left the UFC without the fights they wanted to make. There is no way to call diaz “reliable”.
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He's reliable in the sense I know I am gonna get my money's worth when I order a ppv with him on it
The key is to hit the guy in the jaw really hard before the other guy does it to you.
by FreeLightningLee on Feb 9, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying you personally so don't take it like that
But people were disappointed with the Condit fight I don’t know why
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How do you know that?
He may find it impossible to fully engage / cut off the cage / takedown versus a highly mobile pointfighting opponent… Thereby disappointing you
by Arca MMA on Feb 10, 2012 1:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If he even makes it onto the card you thought he was gonna fight on
Otherwise you just pissed away $60 because the guy couldnt be fucked showing up to a press conference ala UFC 137
If i bought tickets for that assuming the main event was going to be GSP vs Diaz id be fucken pissed with Diaz and rightfully so, GSP injury and entertaining Diaz vs Penn fight aside.
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you’d be pissed at diaz even though he fought in the ME on that card? ok, i just saw your avatar. now i get it.
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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 10, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Haha i love how people use that excuse
Diaz beat a bloated BJ on the downside of his career and i couldnt care less about it, You know why?
Because Penn achieved something Diaz never will, TWICE, and is laughing his ass off all the way to the Hall of Fame :)
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He shows up on moving day and always puts on a great show.
He’s a quality entertainer in the entertainment business.
How about this one,
He fouhgt on short notice in the UFC when Joe Silva asked him years ago.
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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 9, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Unless he's set to face Heiron, then he doesn't show up...
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that's true but you dont want the ufc to hold him responsible for that do you?
bottom line is his relatiosnship with Dana and Lorenzo is $trong enough that Nick will be fighting in the UFC when the commission allows it.
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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 9, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Nick comes with a hefty price tag and has twice blown chances to show the compnay his worth.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 9, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
he’s had a dozen fights in hte UFC where he surely did show his worth plus a bunch of fights on SF were he carried the card.
interesting you never touch the crux of my arguement that a fair hearing is neccessary before conclusions can be drawn AND Nick may be able to establish that there was no impairement at the time of the fight.
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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 10, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Carrying a card in Strikeforce is laughable at best
WMMA fights carried cards in Strikeforce ffs lol
And you’re argument about whether Diaz was actually impaired at the time of the fight is pointless, Metabolites were present in his system either before or after the fight and as a result he failed the drug screening and is now being punished.
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not sure if tim burke is trolling or is just that lame.
let fighters fight
by macburn on Feb 9, 2012 10:41 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
I'm thinking maybe both
He had to know the storm of shit that would come
Are you serious??
Marijuana is no worse than alcohol… hmmm. how many UFC fighters are getting fired for having beer or wine? YEAH yeah, I know – but it’s AGAINST the rules. So effin what! The rules should change. Is abortion right or wrong? What is right and what is not right? Right and wrong change by the decade, depending on what culture you’re in. Yeah I know… but we have to draw lines and follow them… so change the rules! You’re saying someone should GET FIRED because of a temporary human belief about marijuana? As someone already, giff’d, get off your high horse.
Suggesting that someone should lose his job for smoking pot is ridiculous. Only in America.
by Kenya_MMA on Feb 9, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
That's not his argument.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 9, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
What are the marijuana regulations in Kenya?
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Haha...
I believe that’s the dude who said memes are destroying BE.
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Blasphemy
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I’m Canadian.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 9, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I am white, native american and black
where should i admit that?
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
The census
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by Chris Hall on Feb 9, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
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The internets
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 10, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
Definitely not job applications.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Feb 10, 2012 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
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man i miss that lovable Russian
he started the whole “In Soviet Russia…” jokes didn’t he? Where would Fedor pics be without this guy?
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 2:20 AM EST up reply actions
not to mention FPSRussian on youtube.
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no not only in Amerika
..
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Seriously though, I’m all for criticizing fighters, but calling for their jobs? That’s something I’d never get behind.
by Myke2525 on Feb 9, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
I don't agree with Tim, but calling for people's jobs is totally justified
When Brett Rogers got arrested I think an article stating he should be cut would’ve been fine.
Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters
There are people employed by the UFC who have done far worse things.
Rampage went on a Rampage being chased by cops on TV.
Chael was convicted on serious fraud charges.
And then of course the countless number of guys popped for roids that are still employed (and I’d like to include Barnett in that list since he is under the Zuffa umbrella).
Point is if you keep one, you set a precedent. This isn’t some Paul Daley shit. He lost the fight, got popped, move on.
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The only argument for releasing Nick
Is his past drug offenses, and the whole press conference thing.
The funny thing is I don’t think Nick Diaz gives a shit. And it’s hilarious.
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It sure is hilarious to see a talented man throw away a career like this.
My God is that hilarious. So hilarious.
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I will forever enact the “no sarcasm font” rule.
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Fuck that.
Sarcasm font, when used properly, is amazing. Case in point: Go over to Amazin’ Avenue and watch how we sling that shit.
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i m sure he does..
Not because of pot but cutting his money that what will hurt him the most, and also cutting him of fighting. He does this for the money as he stated several times.. so it will hurt him for sure
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By the way, seeing the flame-throwers at Burke
Is totally making the fanpost calling for new mods even more important.
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Yup
Put me in, Coach!
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Only one way to choose
BAT FIGHT!
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by IRodC on Feb 9, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nope, put us both in
Me and SS will rule this place. Earl Montclair will come in with gif support.
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Yeah!
You’ll be like the wonder twins and Gleek
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The hell is Gleek?
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by Unabomberman on Feb 9, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
There's a racist joke in here somewhere that I'm totally half-allowed to make
But won’t make it.
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I can probably make it
I am like one of everything
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
So am I.
But I’ve already made an ass of myself the other day so I won’t push my luck.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 9, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
I thought you were just Mexican?
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
?
Mexicans are a big mix of things, you know; Índigena, Spaniard (European), Arab, French, etc., etc.
I also happen to be kind of a jew, too.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 9, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
So you are
Jew-ish?
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by IRodC on Feb 9, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Hey OH!
Highfive!
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Kind of a jew.
What kind?
The Kosher kind?
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The “I didn’t know I was even a jew” kind.
We’re all mestizos, mostly. I may also be kind of an Arab, too.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 9, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Everybody is everybody
the deeper you dig.
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Yep.
It is just cool to find funny things about where you come from.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 9, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
I see
Well we can make racist jokes together!
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 10, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
That's what I thought too
I didn’t see any reason for The Wonder Twins to be gleeking at each other tho
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Gleeking is fucking gross.
Basicly you just spit on people.
I don’t play that shit.
Spit on me and I’m running you over with my car.
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man,
my buddy in grade school in the 80’s was the gleek master, with a deadpan face so set you couldn’t shake it with dynamite or boobs. I haven’t heard that term in years.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyron Woodley fight.
It'd be total bloodshed
In the end we’d be exhausted, but it would be worth it.
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yup
lots of examples in this comments section
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
I think people are missin the point on Diaz
I don’t think Burke is talking about releasing Diaz for this one event in a vacuum. Its the total package, and his general lawless tomfoolery and refusal to at least try to act like a professional/adult should cost him. Its only fair to every other fighter, and to each in every one of us in society that has to man the fuck up, and do shit we don’t want to. He doesn’t deserve to keep his job.
Police have mounted a Phuket-wide hunt
by warren305 on Feb 9, 2012 10:48 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Nonsense.
Why aren’t people instead calling for him to see a shrink, then? I’m talking about a mental health professional, guys. Don’t tell me this is news to anybody.
He’s kept doing wacky things for a long time, now, that we have come to expect it. Still, this insistence that he somehow act “professional” is downright illogical and says a lot more of the people insisting on it than it does about Nick Diaz or whomever is out there doing wacky shit and annoying people.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 9, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Jesus christ, really? Poor Nick Diaz
We should hold him and help him and tell him its going to be okay…..
That’s his family, friends, trainers, managers job. You can sympathize with EVERYONE who fucks up, because 9.999 times out of 10, they can have an excuse. I don’t buy that line of thought. He’s a grown man.
Police have mounted a Phuket-wide hunt
by warren305 on Feb 9, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Really?
Why go overboard the other way, then, and get all bent out of shape when he does shit you are already expecting him to do anyways? Why not empathize with him when I’m not excusing him?
There’s way more butt clenching on your side, I’m afraid.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
You are right
we all know somethings not ok with Nick.. would be nice for his own good
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Haven't read through every comment so someone probably referred to it
But Nick Diaz cannot be cut unless they cut Chris Leben, who is clearly an alcoholic (arrested twice) and got popped twice for PEDs. Funny enough, the two times he used PEDs, he got dominated in the main event of a UK show.
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UFC President Dana White is notoriously soft on people that pop for illegal substances. He has stated multiple times that a long suspension, which robs the fighter of the opportunity to make a living, is punishment enough. I suspect that will be the case here as well. But, Mr. White, this situation is different, and you should treat this differently.
I’m trying to make the point that he should change his way of thinking in this regard. The 100 comments before this that say “wut about Leben, wut about Chael” aren’t really hitting on this. I agree that Leben should have got cut. He was a multiple offender.
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It just amazes me that he actually fails the test ! People and Kids on probation beat drug test every day given buy state Probabtion/Parole officers easy. People who have to take a drug screen for there job beat these test and Nick Diaz can’t ? Come on now Nick you should be given the boot for that reason alone. How no one told Nick Diaz to take a trip to his local GNC and pick 1 of the 100’s of urine cleaners they have is just amazing ?
Ok, I don't agree with you, and haven't decided whether or not I agree with Burke...
But Futurama gets the lols
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by Chris Hall on Feb 9, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Tim?
Have you written an article after every positive test for a banned substance per a UFC fighter? If not, I don’t think your article and your stance is fair or makes any sense for that matter. Cannabis is a medically regulated plant available via doctors prescription. It is not a performance enhancing substance that would give a user an unfair advantage over their opponent. Take TRT, another banned substance but available via doctors prescription. It IS a performance enhancing substance, a dramatic enhancement. The athletic commission and UFC allow fighters to use this substance as long as they have a doctors prescription. How does it make any sense that fighters can use one of the strongest performance enhancing substances in the world with a doctors prescription but can’t use a non performance enhancing substance with a doctors prescription? I know that your answer will be “well that’s the rules, deal with it” but that isn’t true. MMA is an infant sport that has a lot of growing to do in the regulation department. Just because a rule is in place doesn’t mean that it’s right and the only way to get rules changed is through consistent outcry. Judging is another problem with MMA regulation. Should we all just ignore that blatant problem and say well, that’s just how it is? Cannabis being classified in a harsher format than testosterone is insane, it’s not right, and it needs to be changed. Calling for fighters to be kicked out the UFC for this situation is a cowardly stance and one that will not help improve the sport.
by CRWHITLOCK on Feb 9, 2012 10:57 PM EST reply actions 18 recs
only psychblack has that power
slap yoself
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Um, faded?
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 9, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Nope. Fadded
It means…something
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Release the moron.
I am done with Diaz. Never want to see him fight in the UFC again. He has no respect for the sport. No respect for his opponents. No respect for anyone other than himself. Fuck that noise.
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Nah.
I can assure you that he will fight gain in the UFC. And you will watch it.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 9, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Its not just the weed, man
I don’t see why thats so hard to understand. Its a pattern.
Police have mounted a Phuket-wide hunt
thank you!
It is called being a responsible adult.
Do people not get this?
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by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
lol @ the thought of either of the Diazs even being remotely responsible, hah.
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Why the hell should I care if he's a responsible adult?
I’m not his Dad.
But I am a consumer.
And I want to see Nick Diaz fight.
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by RolloTomasi on Feb 9, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
And he's so goddamn entertaining that when his suspension is up I'll be waiting to buy PPV's
Pathetic huh?
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by RolloTomasi on Feb 9, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, it'll be awesome
The UFC should fire him…..the length of his suspension by the commission. Diaz deserves to be fired. He is also awesome to watch and should be re-hired.
Police have mounted a Phuket-wide hunt
Honestly this is the best argument for keeping him as a fighter.
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While it is incredibly stupid for him to fail a drug test for weed, getting on your high horse and calling for him to be fired is also ridiculous. Firing Diaz over this would be incredibly inconsistent with the UFC’s previous actions for related transgressions. Furthermore, it would be a harsh penalty that would be difficult to justify for the transgression. Finally, it would be a terrible business decision. Diaz is a moderate draw, and all of this controversy is just increasing his potential drawing power. There have been thousands of Diaz-related comments just today alone, I don’t think ive ever seen anything like it. Why would you throw away money like that in a time when the UFC is struggling to bring in PPV buys just to take an ill-advised stand on an issue that nobody actually thinks is a big deal?
Essentially, slap yourself.
One look at this thread and all I can think is "hammer time"
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
Pointless article...
He’s already retired
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by Harley hooper on Feb 9, 2012 11:08 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
Thanks Burke,
Now I know not to read anything you ever write again.
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by ANance on Feb 9, 2012 11:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions 8 recs
Sweet.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
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I don't agree with your opinion. At all.
But this thread is big on lulz, so thanks.
Hopefully I’ll like your next piece.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I’m totally cool with people disagreeing. I disagree with a lot of things that people write, even BE writers. If you present your objections reasonably, it’s a fun discussion.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
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by Tim Burke on Feb 10, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This certainly has been very fun.
:)
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
Should have replied
“I’ll never give a shit about Tim Sylvia again.”
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
Tim Sylvia gives his own shit about Tim Sylvia
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
It was the first thing I thought of, actually. But despite what the guy thinks about me for this post or whatever, he’s been a cool commenter and the reality check for a lot of people that hate on Timmeh for no real reason. I think he’s an asset to the site.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
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Tim Sylvia's shit doesn't give a shit about Tim Sylvia.
Seriously, is he STILL not retired?
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by McKinley B. Noble on Feb 10, 2012 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
Love this comment section!
I’m laughing so much my belly hurts.
"I don't want to sound cocky, but I do hold myself in high regard."
Jesus, Tim. What'd you do? Run over a dog? Shit on the flag?
Cause this is like Snowden levels of hate thrown at you, lol.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
by pud333 on Feb 9, 2012 11:14 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
he is canadian
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!
by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously, he didn't call for Diaz to be beheaded
He’ll be back
Police have mounted a Phuket-wide hunt
When I read this article, I was like, “Eh.” Then I come back later and the internet exploded. I seriously don’t know what the fuss is. He has a point. I may not necessarily agree 100% with it, but I can see it. Diaz is about as reliable as… shit, I can’t come up with something so unreliable.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
I can't stand Diaz
But having said that I hope he’s not cut because I love to hate him….when he’s winning I’m pissed off, when he’s gettin beat I’m happy…but the one constant is that I never miss his fights.
by cusebear on Feb 9, 2012 11:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
this will be their proving ground
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!
by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
the fucking trolls are out in full force tonight
Everyone saying anything bad about Beer Monster can fuck right off. Due contributes so much at BE and you all flame him for his opinion?
THAT is pathetic.
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 9, 2012 11:18 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
We need some banhammer up in here
MDH
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!
by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
No shit. Beer Monster fucking rules.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
FIRED??? REALLY???
I think releasing him is a bit harsh. However, the frustration evinced in this piece is surely a typical emotion felt by most Nick Diaz fans right now, and many MMA fans. The first question I asked myself was, “How the hell do you get caught with pot in your system AGAIN?” It’s beyond foolish (all due respect). He’s a professional fighter and regardless of one’s stance on the sticky icky, as noted by T. Burke, it is pathetic that he fails to conclude that it’s a bad idea to partake while trying to maintain a high profile, well-paid career in the cage. But…. on the other hand, we are talking about a gentleman who dropped out of high-school (I believe). Quite frequently, Goldie lauds the accolades of the men competing in the UFC w/ respect to their college education. And justifiably so. Still, in any sport, a few guys are going to lack such accolades, and sometimes a dearth of education leads to poor-decision making. I believe this is the case with Nick Diaz. That’s not to say that all fighters lacking a degree are slow – not by any means. And I’m not trying to excuse one’s want of common sense. But in this particular case, and in light of the way in which he composes himself during every press appearance, it wouldn’t be a shocker to learn that Diaz’s cognitive abilities are a bit inefficient. Now, I’m not advocating that those with advanced degrees who fail drug tests ought to face stiffer consequences because they “should have known better.” Rather, I’m simply asserting that a fighter who fails a second drug test for steroids or pot should not be dispositively terminated, no questions asked, close the book, end of story. Another reason I believe this, and I know the “it’s just weed man” line is a bit cliche, but indeed, it’s just weed. I certainly believe that a fighter needs to understand that he cannot smoke weed while trying to sustain a career in fighting, as noted above. But Nick isn’t an evil person. Smoking weed, while proscribed by public and private organizations alike, is a “malum prohibitum” offense – it’s wrong because the powers at be say it’s wrong. It’s not inherently devious. With steroids, on the other hand, one can reasonably argue that it’s unfair for one fighter to consume PEDs while others abstain. In the context of competition, one could argue that it is inherently wrong to take steroids. The same case can’t be reasonably made with respect to ganj. Nick’s gonna get punished, and rightfully so. He will be levied hefty fines and will likely face a significant suspension – at 28 years old, the prime of his career. The “three strikes rule” pervades our society. In California, there is a three-strike rule for three-time criminal offenders (I believe that’s still the case). You get three strikes at the plate during a ball game. I don’t think releasing him his necessary for his second offense, with all due respect. One more time? Than it would be a lot more difficult to argue that he shouldn’t be cut. But not for the second.
I’m going to stare at this until I see the hidden picture.
by crazybones on Feb 9, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Wow! It's a schooner.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
by pud333 on Feb 9, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or as Lee Corso calls her
Bee Yonc!
Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
Cortez Kennedy is in the Hall Of Fame!!!!!!!! WE DID IT!
It's not a scooner, dummy. It's a ship!
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
YUS!
Someone got it!
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
YOU KNOW WHAT?!?! THERE IS NO EASTER BUNNY!
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 9, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
You always take jokes to far Subo
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Not true
Learn JiuJitsu.
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Cortez Kennedy is in the Hall Of Fame!!!!!!!! WE DID IT!
by RolloTomasi on Feb 10, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
that is fuckin terrifying
I am a full grown adult and I would have the same look on my face too
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
That is horrible. Just... horrible.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
...
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
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by Chris Hall on Feb 10, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
can we find a new fire pic & add that line? sorry it’s getting stale
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
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Took one of the top two after a "kill it with fire" search on google images
I’m sure if I scrolled down far enough I’d have found one with boobs.
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THAT'S JUST A GUY IN A SUIT!
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 10, 2012 5:00 AM EST up reply actions
That is one fat fucking paragraph.
It’s like it ate five other paragraphs.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
by pud333 on Feb 9, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thapa is that you?
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by IRodC on Feb 9, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How the hell did you get the Great Wall of China all in one comment?
Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters
Just to randomly take anything you said to task
The three strikes laws are some of the worst legislation in the history of our country for a ton of reasons, and marshalling them in any argument is a guaranteed fail.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyron Woodley fight.
Is there ketchup involved in this story?
Someone summarize.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 10, 2012 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
Now I know why Dana doesn't pay attention to the internet.
Best advice I never heeded: Don't read the bottom of the internet.
Anon made him pay attention.
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Cortez Kennedy is in the Hall Of Fame!!!!!!!! WE DID IT!
So should every other fighter who gets popped for a substance then. Stupid. When Chael got caught up in all of his issues should Dana have fired him? No. Dana said the commission’s punishment was enough, and what Chael was involved in was far wise.
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by FarmerInTheCity on Feb 9, 2012 11:23 PM EST reply actions
*worse.
https://twitter.com/#!/Sixteen_Shells, http://sixteenshells.blogspot.com/
by FarmerInTheCity on Feb 9, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
See kids
THIS is how you generate traffic!
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Cortez Kennedy is in the Hall Of Fame!!!!!!!! WE DID IT!
by RolloTomasi on Feb 9, 2012 11:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Controversy!!!
Yes!!!!
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!
by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
Just write an article telling a million dollar CEO how he should feel and act, b/c you know more than he does.
Best advice I never heeded: Don't read the bottom of the internet.
by Harley hooper on Feb 9, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Why Jon Jones Should Fight Chuck Liddell - Jonathan Snowden
One of the greatest threads ever.
Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters
yeah
I thought this was a bit of a troll post, designed to rile up the readers, and ironically illustrates why I think Diaz is important for the promotion, he generates a lot of talk.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyron Woodley fight.
Its weird, I don't think weed should be tested for or even considered...in anything
Its a naturally growing herb with many medicinal uses. I don’t think we should care about it any more than ginko biloba or ginseng. But thats not the point.
Police have mounted a Phuket-wide hunt
by warren305 on Feb 9, 2012 11:27 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
im recing you dude
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!
by Andy Anderson on Feb 9, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
ginkgo is probably not something you should be taking if you're fighting...-->increased bleeding tendency
Also it’s fallacy to think that herbals meds have no effects just cause you don’t need a prescription for them. A ton of them interact with other meds and have significant side effects on their own. Honestly they need to be regulated more than they are.
But weed has been tested alot in many a study and frankly we should care about it less than Ginkgo in terms of fighting.
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I'm on your side
but I don’t think the “natural” argument is all that sound. Opium grows naturally, too
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 10, 2012 2:52 AM EST up reply actions
Why is there no poll asking whether people think he should be cut?
I mean, the average age of UFC fans is probably about 20. I’d be amazed if 1 out of 10 thinks he should be cut.
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So how many bans you guys thinking?
I don’t know historical numbers, but I’m thinking at least 15 warnings and maybe 5-10 bans on this one.
Police have mounted a Phuket-wide hunt
so to sum up what i've learned so far
1. weed should be legal…
2. …but weed is illegal, and therefore currently unacceptable per NSAC rules
3. Diaz shouldn’t be cut because:
- “it’s just weed”
- not all of the the other fighters accused of having abused a controlled substance have suffered a similar fate (or at least have come back from it)
4. people are confusing sensibilities regarding weed and the rules of the sport as interpreted by commissions
5. controversial writing stances make for mighty clickthrough numbers
6. Tim Burke is not, in fact, teh devil.
ideas? got a head full/one-man penny dreadful
That last one I disagree with
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by IRodC on Feb 9, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In the iconic words of Hitler
“Nick Diaz isn’t afraid of anyone, and will fight anyone like a warrior, homie. He’s so real, he’s my hero.
I wish he was my dad.”
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/2/7/2783854/hitler-gives-his-views-of-the-main-event-of-ufc-143
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Cortez Kennedy is in the Hall Of Fame!!!!!!!! WE DID IT!
by RolloTomasi on Feb 9, 2012 11:41 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
First I was like o_0
Then I was like :-D
I dont do pics or gifs
Police have mounted a Phuket-wide hunt
I dont do pics or gifs
I don’t either, I just post em.
Learn JiuJitsu.
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Cortez Kennedy is in the Hall Of Fame!!!!!!!! WE DID IT!
"Those kicks were for pussies"
Diaz aint scared a that shit! -classic
Police have mounted a Phuket-wide hunt
The world is black and white.
Weed and PEDs are both illegal and should have the same consequences. Who cares if some takes one to get an unfair advantage and the other guy takes it because he likes to get fucked up.
Nick Diaz
makes the UFC money and just made Tim Burke money by typing about him.
that is all
Here is a rule of thumb from Chinese martial arts: Hard strikes soft, soft strikes hard. In other words - use hard weapons (fists, albows, knees, fingertips) on soft targets like muscles, torso, eyes etc. Use soft weapons (palm, sole of the foot) to strike hard targets like the head, elbows and knees, and other bony surfaces.
Beer Monster doesn't get paid by pageview
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
I thought these were as good as cash 
Here is a rule of thumb from Chinese martial arts: Hard strikes soft, soft strikes hard. In other words - use hard weapons (fists, albows, knees, fingertips) on soft targets like muscles, torso, eyes etc. Use soft weapons (palm, sole of the foot) to strike hard targets like the head, elbows and knees, and other bony surfaces.
by Pillow Pants on Feb 10, 2012 5:05 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Beer Monster with the heel turn out of left
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by The Lethal Haze on Feb 9, 2012 11:49 PM EST reply actions
They're being culled
aimed at the crotch...
by Damon O. on Feb 9, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ah, yes please.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
I don't believe in a DeoBan without a gif
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
i just wish more of them had signed up to HKL first
so I could see the shenanigans
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
My thoughts exactly
Last I checked all we had is a weak warning of someone who will remain nameless.
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Just go look at Subo's ban record.
It will make you happy again.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
I couldn't stop laughing the first time I scanned through it
You should be given an award
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
It took me over 3 hours to get through it.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
Where did you take speed reading classes?
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
In Canada, where we FUCKING RULE. You wouldn’t understand.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
by Tim Burke on Feb 10, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So, self taught while watching curling?
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
I could make a HURRY HARD joke, but you wouldn’t even get it padawan.
Ya see, we’re so far ahead of your inferior “education” that we read Subo’s ban record just fo’ fun.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
by Tim Burke on Feb 10, 2012 1:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Personally, I prefer the single black mark on your record.
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Picking Davis to beat Rashad? Fuck man, nobody’s perfect!
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
Damn, I missed that...
That was a bad idea
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Yeah, it was. I know I need to get over my Rashad hate.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
Just give it all to someone who really deserves it. Like Dan Hardy
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
I wish I could explain my history with Dan Hardy to you.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
You picked him against GSP, didn't you?
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
That’s just stupid!
As I’ve mentioned in Ben Thapa’s excellent Tucker Max pieces this week, I used to write for Max’s media company. I was made aware of the fact that Mr. Hardy wasn’t a fan of my pieces that pointed out he wasn’t very good on the ground. He still hasn’t been subbed, so he has a point.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
Right, I forgot about that. Vindication!
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
Yeah, a lock down guard waiting for a stand up doesn't make you good on the ground either.
And as far as “That’s just stupid!” So was picking Davis against Evans :).
That’s pretty awesome you actually managed to get Hardy mad at you for calling him out on not being good.
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
I AGREE.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
I'd read it again tonight, but I don't have that kind of time
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Snowden just went to war on me
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
That's just not true. I'm pretty sure you've been banned by everyone who's ever had mod powers.
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Eugene never banned me.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
What'd you have to do for him?
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Who?
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
by Tim Burke on Feb 10, 2012 1:32 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm just gonna rec this......
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
Luke Thomas always spoke highly of you, though. Go figure.
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Well there was that time I told him to hold my dick
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
You’re confusing him with your probation officer.
Melvin and I say: Please visit
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You guys are so uninitiated
POs are for taking your money once a month and calling you when you fuck up. It’s a whole other set of people you pay to watch you pee.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
yea shame on us for not benig parolee's and all
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
PAROLE IS WHEN THEY LET YOU OUT OF PRISON EARLY
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
well grats for getting out of shawshank and all
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
HAHAHA
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
You actually went to prison?
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
I hate everyone.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
This explains why
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
And we come to the center of the shrubbery maze.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Feb 10, 2012 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
They actually publish your ban history? That’s like being put in the stocks in the village square!
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I hope they make it public one day
It’s a badge of honor.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
I can always go copy/paste
It should be an awesome fanpost imo
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
I agree, actually
I don’t have access to it anymore
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
Then you just need to start a new string of bannable offenses. Try this: Rank Joe Warren in the top 5.
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Oh I'll do it in two weight classes
subo don’t care
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
Joe Warren threw me on my head when I was in 10th grade
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!
by Andy Anderson on Feb 10, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
was he the “baddest kid on the playground”? I’m gonna bet you probably still went to decision.
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
he was showing throws at a wrestling camp, this was like 8 years ago
then had me throw him to make sure i could do it too
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!
by Andy Anderson on Feb 11, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
This would be awesome
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
let's clear it with yon high muckity mucks first
they might not want it up for w/e reason
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
Damn, I knew I should have cross posted my opinion post on Diaz over here
this is good stuff Burke. Well done.
Writing things on occasion @ Head Kick Legend.
Team Captain for Ruining Your Special Night. That's what we do.
You prolly could have bribed Roth to front page it too
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
we don't have very good bbq around these parts and I doubt 5 dollars in free play at Circus Circus was going to sway him.
Writing things on occasion @ Head Kick Legend.
Team Captain for Ruining Your Special Night. That's what we do.
by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
Don't you still have a 4Loko stash for just this occassion?
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
I never ever had one.
I saw the things it made Roth post and tell me and I realized it was a concoction from hell made by Satan himself to get otherwise good people to fuck toothless strippers and eat too many gas station cheeseburgers,
Writing things on occasion @ Head Kick Legend.
Team Captain for Ruining Your Special Night. That's what we do.
by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Roth is otherwise good people?
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
i think so
Writing things on occasion @ Head Kick Legend.
Team Captain for Ruining Your Special Night. That's what we do.
by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Actually, I like to poke fun
But dude has been super helpful since he brought me on HKL. Props to Cabbage.
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
There’s a really good chance that Roth was doing that before the 4Loko.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
nah man
before the 4Loko Roth only banged the hottest New Jersey had to offer…….oh, You were right
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Team Captain for Ruining Your Special Night. That's what we do.
by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The hatred you've generated here... it's good.
Not great… but good. Bravo.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 9, 2012 11:59 PM EST reply actions
Give it time. He's learning.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
Judging by the comment ticker, I'd say he's a master.
Over/under on this breaking 1000 by midnight?
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by McKinley B. Noble on Feb 10, 2012 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
its long past midnight
(at least in all civilized, real parts of the world)
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
Not in San Francisco.
Otherwise known as the last civilized, real part of the world :P
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by McKinley B. Noble on Feb 10, 2012 2:31 AM EST up reply actions
Nah, just kidding.
Actually, I wouldn’t mind living in Sweden or Canada.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Feb 10, 2012 2:32 AM EST up reply actions
Canada is the shit!! We got like no snow this winter haha its so sweet!
No more snowy Canadian stereotypes after this winter!
Ohhhhhhh CANADA - Georges St. Pierre, right here is where he calls home, and smoking marijuana, we consider it legal.
by Austin Wilson on Feb 10, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
i grabbed a screen shot when this was at 420 comments by coincidence. by the time i decided to do nothing with it we were at 449. this was within about a minute
Surprised it took that long
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Now I know someone else that loves weed
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I better be the person you currently know that loves weed
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
I thought you swore off the dope?
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
…what on earth gave you that impression
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
General facetiousness?
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Your probation officer?
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
She knew better than most that I was less than sober
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
This is not a new discovery
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
Shut up, CRIME!
Is Tim Burke the Crimson Bolt?
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
Haha this is retarded.
Nick should be released from UFC cause he fails 2 drug tests in 6 years. But
Leben fails twice for ban substances.
Thiago uses animal piss and was playing Vera’s head like a conga.
Melvin was a known coke head.
Chael in so much fucking trouble all at the same time.
And so on… Yet you dudes weren’t crying about it and campaigning for them to lose their jobs. Is Diaz not “professional” enough for you? Grow up, dude. It’s fucking fighting, not everyone is a GSP. You need The Sonnen’s and Diaz’s in this sport. Dana knows it and so do you. Diaz is an amazing fighter that people wanna watch regardless. He’s himself and doesn’t put up a front so people like you can approve and like him.
It’s weed, man.
I miss 2009-10 BE when the site and staff weren’t always trying to play the PC defenders of MMA.
"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson
by poundnground on Feb 10, 2012 12:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions 6 recs
I rarely ever comment on these things but,
Tim Burke should be fired from SB Nation for writing this ridiculous piece. Calling for someone to be fired over marijuana while other fighters are taking PEDs and calling people pathetic for caring about a nick diaz fight because he smokes weed? The only thing pathetic is the person who wrote this piece of shit. You seriously disgust me Tim Burke.
by FacialMaker on Feb 10, 2012 12:11 AM EST reply actions 8 recs
Tim, you SERIOUSLY disgust him.
Not mockingly or jokingly or amusingly, but SERIOUSLY.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
.
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
Can someone please post the Mayhem gif too? Just cuz?
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
You owe me one..
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
That’s not Mayhem.
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SHIT!!!
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
it's late, we understand
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
Got it!!
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
.
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just gonna go cut myself now...
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Epic Chris90210 fail
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
Is Chris Hall seriously chris3942734798423432?
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Yes
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Am I the last remaining handle of the old guard?
Everyone’s banned or has a real name now. So ronery..
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
sell out sell out sell out
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
Shit, I'm a Charles
And you see what they did to the Earl of Montclair for that first month. Fucking animals.
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
C'mon Chuck
You’ll have tons of fun explaining that last name
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
How's that now?
Rolls off the tongue.
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
“Where’s it from?”
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
Ha
Yeah, well, I’m LEBANESE, let’s get that out of the way before I sell out. Even though I’ll totally use a fake name.
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
you and Earl both
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
Charles Freeman
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
I dig it
Let’s do this. NATE.. I want a four day banhammer and this new name.
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
My real name is Andy Anderson
how do I change it?
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!
by Andy Anderson on Feb 10, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
The courts
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well Andy Anderson isn't my legal name
Just my given name. I just am tired of being GladiatorRandomNumbers.
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!
by Andy Anderson on Feb 10, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
In hindsight, I should have been plain ol' Blackout
Sure it was available at that time (might still be), but Blackout612 is my gamertag/handle, so I went with uniformity.
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Yup
Same here…well I just used the aol sn that i signed up with that I no longer use.
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!
by Andy Anderson on Feb 10, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Shit, if I used my AOL screen name, I'd be reaching back to the early 90's
And you don’t even want to know the dumb shit I was using back then.
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Late 90's for me
I feel old and I am only 23
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!
by Andy Anderson on Feb 11, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
You still got BV
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Has BV really been around that long?
I guess it’s possible.
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
phildo?
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah
He wins.
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions
Just a little longer than me. May 2010
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Fuckin hell
I feel like I’ve been here for a decade, but it was May of 08. Lot of turnover since then. Lot more commenters, too. It was always the same like 20 dudes in EVERY thread back then.
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
I don't!
Yet…
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
OH YEAH
So there’s a few of us.
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
I figure it's like the rapture.
Not all of us are getting picked up.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
Yep
And this is just where I want to be.
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
My thoughts exactly.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
You’re ugly though. You don’t count.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
You only thing I'm ugly because you're sober.
Either I’m pretty or I’m the drinking champ here. Make your pick, Burke.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
by pdl on Feb 10, 2012 1:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd and rec'd again
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Ninja please
You couldn’t drink a puppy under the table.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
So I'm pretty and you ugly.
Which brings us to you too ugly to be world BE drinking champ. World BE drinking champ should be pretty like me!
WHOA, RUMBLE YOUNG MAN RUMBLE!
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
I….what?
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
lotta scotch, tim
whooooooooooooole lot of it
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
I'M THE KING OF THE WORLD! I'M PRETTY!
I’M A BAD MAN! I SHOOK UP THE WORLD!
And yes, I am Ali quote drunk on a thursday.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
I kind of wish I was
but I don’t really feel like drinking tonight
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
Since Jun 01, 2009
The amusing side to having your name changed is the infinite pics that I post has basically hidden me from GIS and other IS’s
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
Still here yo!
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
Yeah. He’s about to be Chris209, moderating on the ProElite website if he keeps running his goddamned mouth!
Just kidding. Andrea90210 is cool.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
I think that's the closest I'll get to a compliment from you
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Shut it Brian Austin Green.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
You and your people are responsible for Tom Green
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
You and your people are responsible for Pee Wee Herman.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
Brian Adams
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Celine Dion.
Melvin and I say: Please visit
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nickelback
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
Brian Boiiiiitano.
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Brock Lesnar almost dying
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
Beaver pelts.
Melvin and I say: Please visit
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YOU DIDNT EVEN SPELL IT RIGHT
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
Only a Canadian would know or care
It’s what’s wrong with you.
pdl is the drunk BE Champ.
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
I will ruin your BE mod hopes with talk like that!
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
Fuck, you don't play fair...
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Look at you tucking vag and running! Man up! Tell me I’m useless or something!
The third rule of BE is – this isn’t a test.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
My twitter: @TB_Money
Vaginas?
Where?!
The Internets: Where there are no girls and men become children.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 2:13 AM EST up reply actions
See above...
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
swagger jacker
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
Not sure how to respond to this
Since I already used both shit just got real gifs….
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
Chris Hall wore a cowboy hat before anybody else??? ok, I admit I’m Fitching this bong right now, and a bowl of Hendricks has now completed my night. Can you blame me with all this Diaz anxiety today?
Hasta Rasta
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
Shit
No title. Ummm… Get a new computer.
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
Love to learn the history of this awesome gif.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyron Woodley fight.
pretty simple
cody did his opening bit
SJGR got put on it
mayhem saw it, lol’d, did the same as a tribute
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 2:19 AM EST up reply actions
Confession time
I am a total Mayhem Miller …Nuthugger. Seriously, it’s a mancrush of the middleschool girl variety. Fucking embarrassing, but I love everything that guy does except gas out embarrassingly occasionally. But in my head, I make excuses for him. I can only barely stop myself from posting about the dude- I usually write a long post about him in response to something then delete it when I preview it to see how stupid I sound, lol.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyron Woodley fight.
The obscenity wasn’t necessary but this is a pretty spot-on comment.
by DEEPLimpact on Feb 10, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
You're so offended that someone could for someone else to be fired from their job...
That you’re suggesting they get fired from their job?
Fucking awesome.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 10, 2012 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
*called, not could
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 10, 2012 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
Dana can't cut Diaz
Diaz has a medical exemption that allows him to smoke pot in his state. Dana would be seen as biased against a person with a disability if he picked on Nick. This is Dana’s chance to stand up for disabled people everywhere.
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by Farthammer on Feb 10, 2012 12:15 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
nah fuck that
this is like Duck Hunt, man.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
coward
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Like he's got something better to do on a Thursday night
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by IRodC on Feb 10, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well at least he isn’t drinking piss
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Nope, he saves that for the weekend
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not everyone can wait that long
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by tigerlee on Feb 10, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was not prepared for that
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no one is ever really prepared for something like that
sig bet it’s a whizzinator? j/k!
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Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyron Woodley fight.
It's just....
I really can’t say anything else that hasn’t been said in an intelligent manner. I side more with MDH here. As a former pothead who quit by choice, I spent many years loving the dope. I hold it no ill-will and think it has a ton of benefits and needs to be legalized.
That said…jesus christ quit the weed before and after a fight for once.
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I agree with all of this
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My thoughts on your piece, Burke
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by SSreporters on Feb 10, 2012 12:19 AM EST reply actions 11 recs
Well played, SS
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this is quite funny
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Quite.
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Earl Montclair, please use this as your av…it fit’s your name perfectly
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Should I do it?
everyone say your piece.
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, Silk Johnson fit perfectly with MDH
But Earl Montclair needs something new
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Change the formula
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Yes. Or this one.
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I agree with either one of these
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
BTW
Banning people because they’re responding to a write up that the writer knew would get lots of bad feedback is stupid. I dont see why a lot of you are assuming lots of posters would get so many warnings and bans. If I get banned for what I posted before then tough shit and I’m glad. I really wouldn’t wanna be a part of such a sensitive site.
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by poundnground on Feb 10, 2012 12:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Attacking the argument is fine, by all means
Attacking Burke or the quality of the posts at BE is out of line. That shouldn’t be hard to understand.
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by SSreporters on Feb 10, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
I AM SO SENSITIVE BECAUSE YOU ARE SENSITIVE!!!
Calm down.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
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by tigerlee on Feb 10, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm not sure you know exactly what you're talking about.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 10, 2012 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
Not gonna hate on the author
But it is pretty crazy to me that someone who writes about MMA doesn’t want to see Nick Diaz fight anymore. I simply cannot wrap my head around that.
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by big matt on Feb 10, 2012 12:20 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
He will watch him fight again. He will not avoid a Nick Diaz fight.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Like Condit did?
Let’s restart that retardedness
WOOOOOO
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
well done
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
A lot of people saying they just want to watch Nick Diaz fight
You know who’s preventing you from watching him fight soon? Nick Diaz
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by IRodC on Feb 10, 2012 12:21 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
Should I be mad at that?
He owned himself in a pretty idiotic way but that’s no reason to want him fired.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
That is assuming we get to whine about that.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
No kidding. Nick knows the rules. He has only himself to blame.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
TRUF
I don’t understand how there can be so many comments regarding his abuse of a CLEARLY STATED RULE. Who cares if weed calms him down, is medicinal, etc.. He broke a fucking rule. That’s it.
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by Charles Awad on Feb 10, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How many bans due to this thread?
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by SSreporters on Feb 10, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Even I’m always up for a good Canadian joke.
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The neighbor says, “Well, actually, the seat belongs to me. I was supposed to come with my wife, but she passed away. This is the first Stanley Cup we haven’t been to together since we got married.”
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by ( . Y . ) on Feb 10, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Lol
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by Harley hooper on Feb 10, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
He beat you.
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I read his first
I think mine just cuts a little closer to the bone
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
Nick Diaz is a goddamn joke
Not making weight is unprofessional, Getting busted for weed as a professional athlete is beyond stupid so i dont even know where to start since this is his second offense.
I think cutting him is a bit over the top but something drastic needs to be done.. I say feed him to Fitch and Ellenberger and then atleast Dana will have a legitimate excuse to cut him.
In hindsight im glad Condit won because if Diaz got that decision this failed result would have caused the biggest shit storm in MMA history and tarnished the reputation of the sport as a whole and all the hard work Dana and the Fertita’s have done to get this sport exposure in the mainstream market.
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he has legitimate reasons to fire him already.
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
firing a retired guy?
is that really legitimate?
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hm yeah I wonder why he "retired"
sad attempt at trying to get out of the game before his dirty test came down maybe?
Im not sure or accusing even though it sounds like it. I am just wondering
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
we don't know which sample was positive, the before or after test
He could have consumed after the fight…6 hours is a long time to finally piss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqQ62B8xdJc
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Yeah, that makes sense. "Hey, lets smoke a joint before submitting my POST FIGHT URINE SAMPLE TO THE COMMISSION.
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Makes as much sense as smoking in the lead up to the most high profile fight of his career.
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Diaz + weed =/= making sense
could have been a brownie, or vapo, or THC capsule…why does everyone just assume he’s blazing in the back while Goldberg’s running around shirtless.
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I’ve seen lots of people do lots of things that I think are too stupid to happen, but ingesting a banned substance while someone is sitting there waiting for you to piss in a cup for a drug test is so far out of the realm of possibility that if it’s true everyone involved in letting that happen should be banned from the sport for stupidity.
get the “good water”
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Yeah, that makes sense. "Hey, lets smoke a joint before submitting my POST FIGHT URINE SAMPLE TO THE COMMISSION.
Until we know which test, and to what extent, Diaz failed there’s still a lot of speculation… so in that spirit:
Diaz loses a close fight, ragequits, goes back to the locker room talking about what “bullshit” it was. After kicking some mitts across the room he says “fuck this, and fuck these guys” and rips a huge bong hit backstage…
I think it’s a plausible chain of events, if not a smart career move…
Maybe on the set of Half Baked 2
But seriously, Who brings their bong with them to a fight incase they needed a pick me up backstage? lol
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again, smoking isn’t the only way to get high from THC.
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Might just be me
But getting high from smoking seems like the purest form since simply ingested a THC tablet feels kinda… weird.
Hash cookies maybe if im feeling exotic but nothing beats ripping a nice spliff or a bong.
Besides the Diaz’s dont strike me as the “I went down and scored some THC tabs from the corner dealer” types, I can imagine it now “I aint got no bud but i do have these kick ass THC tablets!” “Diaz: You fucken kidding me?!” lol
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Not a big fan
Altho mine was made from a fish tank pump so probly not ideal lol
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of all people in existence
you’ve gotta know that this would have the HIGHEST probability of happening with a Diaz…
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by Major B on Feb 10, 2012 3:17 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Diaz retiring
is just typical Diaz. He’s always pointing the finger at someone else. Never at himself. By “retiring,” it’s just another copout for him. Instead of being a man and saying, “I’ll train hard and come back,” he basically does the equivalent of taking his ball and going home cause everyone else won’t play the way he wants to. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him say it’s his fault. It’s always someone else keeping him down, not paying him enough, etc.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
I agree
But why cut him when you can make money off watching him crash and burn??
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This Tim Burke did something right
This thread has been more entertaining than the one that announced Diaz failed.
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by Harley hooper on Feb 10, 2012 12:26 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
This
I haven’t gotten to be a part of a true BE blowup in too long….I missed this feeling
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
A BE-nema perhaps?
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yes
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
We can call it Muddy Elbow, then.
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by ( . Y . ) on Feb 10, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
lol
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 10, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
WIN!
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyron Woodley fight.
I just laughed out loud
At work.
With only 2 other people in the room.
You just made me look crazy.
I hate you.
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by Major B on Feb 10, 2012 3:15 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Burke = Mad Genius?
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
he got so rich off this post
thats what happens when you get paid by commentz!
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 10, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
It's how Snowden got Anderson Silva money
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I’m taking notes. I will wait a week and jack some more.
Wait, that didn’t come out right…
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I haven't waited a week since I was 13
Wait, what were we talking about?
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Fine by me.
It’s cool that he gets to benefit from this.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 10, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Not weight weight is unprofessional but* getting busted for weed...
Edit
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by Chin Check on Feb 10, 2012 12:26 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Weight...er, wait....what?
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by pud333 on Feb 10, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This site is doing weird shit to my posts and im not even on my cell, I posted that as a reply to my above post and it was worded correctly at the time...
I blame the influx of head explosions since this Diaz debacle seems to be inundating the BE servers lol
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Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Cock fights are still illegal in this country.
Dana will only cut him if Zuffa’s lawyers tell him Nick’s contract would still prevent him from fighting in another promotion. Being fired might not free Diaz up to fight elsewhere. If Diaz would be able to fight for someone else, Dana would likely just allow the suspension to play out.
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I don’t see whats wrong calling for Diaz’s job, This is the 4tn time now that weed has affected the mans career and more important his employer. I don’t see how any org be it the UFC can trust putting Diaz in a Big fight anymore ? It’s like Rolling Dice
1st- pride 33 after the Gomi fight Diaz pops dirty
2nd – Jae Suk Lim fight in Elite XC, Diaz’s medical information wasn’t submitted in time for the fight and Cesar tried to use his prescription for medical marijuana as a reason he should be alloweed to fail the drug screen.
3rd – the Jay Hieron fight in SF Diaz no shows the pre fight drug test
4th – UFC 143 After the Condit fight
Come on now I smoke weed and have nothinig against it but there comes a point where it keeps hurting your career and your pocket that enuff is enuff. But I guess not with Nick ? If he wants to continue to roll his Dutch Masters then do so out of MMA.
talent and drugs go hand in hand! you gottta let it slide sometimes.
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by carmine99 on Feb 10, 2012 12:49 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I really can't believe I've been on this long when a live card isn't happening
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Brookhouse already buzzkilled all over this one..
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Since I keep seeing it pop up on my TL. Diaz was not “busted” on 2.09. The press release came out on 2.09
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by Harley hooper on Feb 10, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
While we're assigning new avatars, this one is perfect for Brent
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by Chris Hall on Feb 10, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It is fitting
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by Harley hooper on Feb 10, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 10, 2012 5:09 AM EST up reply actions
Most people make a distinction
between “cheating” (as was loudly proclaimed way up there in the comments) and “breaking the rules”. It may not be logical, but its real. PEDs are cheating, smoking weed is breaking the rules.
A cheater in most circles is a loathed individual. A rule breaker who gains little/no advantage is not rejected & often revered. See also: James Dean.
The contrived angst & (imo) faked indignation of the article isn’t shared by most of the commenters because its largely made up for the sake of the story in the first place.
“FIRE HIM!”…yeah, right. If it were in the comments instead of on the front page it’d be called trolling.
Viewing the length of the comment thread here, This is probably futile.
But let’s be a little more sensible in describing this.
1: He is a second time offender, albeit in different companies – sort of, since UFC owns Pride, right? – for violating a rule.
2: He did not cheat. He violated a rule. Stop conflating the two terms.
3: There is a lot of validity for setting a precedent in policy for the UFC but, It is unlikely he will be banned for life, because he will fight internationally immediately if released and make someone else money in PPV draws.
I don’t feel like now is the time to sacrifice a top fighter for precedent. If it was coke, or meth, maybe. But weed is just too culturally in flux and would be the easiest of drug problems to give a pass to, and it is probably financially better to suspend him and preserve the asset. Its the most ticky tack of the banned substance laws given shifting cultural perceptions. I just don’t think it’s all black and white here.
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by DankNabbot on Feb 10, 2012 1:04 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Long story short
Nick Diaz is immature as a fighter and a person.
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I disagree
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by Harley hooper on Feb 10, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
You understand that you are, at this moment, the bottom of the Internet, right
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
I love the irony.
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by Harley hooper on Feb 10, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
Have we reached a fuck-ton of bans or still sitting at a shitload?
by Afrotikiman on Feb 10, 2012 1:07 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I can tell who here isnt from cali
Weed Is hardly illegal out here. You get a ticket for getting caught with weed. A ticket! Diaz isnt going anywhere plus im sure he has a medical card its legal anyway.
by TaylorMaysCantCover on Feb 10, 2012 1:08 AM EST reply actions
That doesn't make it legal in nevada. or in a sanctioned fight.
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Youre missing the point
Weed isnt a big deal. Diaz isnt going to get released for WEED.
by TaylorMaysCantCover on Feb 10, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
I think you’ll get ’you’re’ right eventually in this thread.
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Doubtful
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Somehow that gibberish made more sense then your original post.
Not a compliment.
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weed is a big deal.
The UFC is a fighting company. weed means nick diaz can’t fight. that means nick diaz can’t do his job. I would think something that prevents you from doing your job is a big deal.
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This is worth Nick TEMPORARILY losing his job.
I.e., UFC should release him for 6 months, from all UFC events anywhere in the world, since it’s his first drug offense under their employment. Perhaps they might go with 9 or 12 months if they were pissed off enough given he failed in his promotional obligations twice for his first GSP title fight and screwed that up.
During this period, to be served concurrently with the NSAC ban, Nick would of course be eligible to fight outside NSAC and UFC.
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Makes more sense to fire his ass now then have him sitting on the shelf for an extended period of time
Who does he think he is, Matt Serra? lol
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Yeah that’s not how AC suspensions work.
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by Derek Suboticki on Feb 10, 2012 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I know that losing one AC can mean other AC's won't license you
I should have said, if Nick can get a fight in other jurisdictions while released by the UFC (e.g. Japan, Hawaii, Brazil) then he would be entitled to fight.
you didn't read the earlier post
i said that the fair thing is for the ufc to release him. For a period of 6-12 months. If he is not on contract with the ufc during this period, he would have the right to fight anywhere he can get licensed.
how would that be fair?
Commissions in the US still wouldn’t let him fight, and if he goes outside the US the UFC will be letting NIck and other promotions suffer from his fuckup, and it will be harder for them to then benefit from him later if/when the NSAC gives him a hard time about getting his license back.
Also, the UFC can’t just condone skirting the law, that doesn’t sit well with the AC when it comes time to review licensing. Besides, Japan is far more strict than the US concerning drugs of abuse, which is really the only other country that could pay for a high profile fighter like Diaz, if they can pay him at all.
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I’m sure he read it, it just didn’t make sense. Release with a condition to return to the UFC upon clearance from NSAC just isn’t definable in a contract, from either the UFC or Cesar Gracie. I’ve never heard a company say “I’m firing you, but only for 6-12 months. So go ahead and fight outside the restrictions of government bonds until we can sign you back.” Business and law just don’t work that way.
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It doesn’t matter that it’s “just weed.” NSAC rules say it’s an illegal substance. Whether you agree with that or not is completely irrelevant. The bottom line is that it IS illegal, and unless it was a false positive for some reason, Diaz, of his own free will, ingested something in a certain time frame that he knew might lead to a positive test.
Maybe it’s my firm beliefs in social justice and activism at play here, but I believe that when the rules/laws fucking suck they need to be changed and resisted. Obviously, Nick Diaz isn’t a Takao Ozawa or a Marcus Garvy, and his problems are only loosely tied such struggles (laws and heteronormativity etc). I just find it extremely problematic from a social justice standpoint to take such a hard stance on the basis of ‘rules are rules’ when rules are often fucked up.
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What about rules based on laws that are almost universally recognised the world over?
Ive seen weed fuck over alot of people including my own short term memory, Weed is illegal for a reason.
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http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/
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ive seen and experienced the ill effects first hand
Seeing is believing and some crack pot “drug policy reform expert” ranting on his blog isn’t going to change a damn thing.
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It's not "some crack pot 'drug policy reform expert'"
it’s a history of how and why pot was illegalized in the first place with citations and sources.
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Written by some crack pot "drug policy reform expert" who is actually a moonlight photography/art curator with a penchant for the odd toke or two
With no formal qualifications or research to back up his “claims” it has little to no credibility.
An article is only as good as its author and he has neither the position or the credentials to be taken seriously by anyone other then tinfoil hat wearing stoners with insomnia.
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You can't change someone's mind when they're not willing to be convinced,
but I don’t really care what credentials the author has as long as they show the capacity to think critically and use scholarly sources. Knowledge production isn’t limited to professors. I could just as well dismiss you’re personal experiences because you’re not listing your sources, you don’t have ethnographic credentials, and an individual situation and because there is scholarly documentation that effectively argue how marijuana was made illegal because of race, corporate greed, politics, and heteronormativity. But I’m not because everyone has the capacity to produce knowledge.
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This hard line stance you're taking is a bit ridiculous
Weed should be illegal because people abuse it and can’t handle their high? I’m guessing you also believe alcohol, tobacco, prescription medication and carbs should be illegal?
by hcblankscreen on Feb 10, 2012 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
Weed is illegal because people abuse it to their detriment and it is a gateway drug
I never said Tobacco or Alcohol were any better, Im a firm believer that they are just as bad if not worse but because the government makes a shitload of money off the taxation of said products it is welcomed into society with open arms which is bullshit.
All im saying is is weed is illegal and everyone knows it so instead of crying about it, Put the bong down and march to Washington and try make a difference or get over it because life aint fair and shit gets vilified everyday for unjust reasons.
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now you're going overboard
Umbilical fluid is the ultimate gateway drug, it leads to EVERYTHING
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Weed's not illegal because of it's effects
Further, it’s only a gateway drug because it’s illegal.
Saying that anything should be illegal solely because people can abuse it is absolutely ridiculous and goes against the very idea of freedom. You getting too high and forgetting what you ate for breakfast shouldn’t keep a cancer patient from an effective painkiller. Maybe you should march on Washington and read about the ideals America was founded on, I’ll stay here with my bong.
by hcblankscreen on Feb 10, 2012 3:03 AM EST up reply actions
You do that
Meanwhile weed will still be illegal and youll still be bitching about it on some MMA forum making zero difference.
Gateway drugs arent gateway because they are illegal, They are gateway because people like you seem to think that weed is no big deal and dont see what the big deal is then before you know its "Whats a couple pills? Its only E, Everyone does it! ".
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As you can tell, i like the words "big deal" lol
Sorry im getting lazy now lol
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All im saying is is weed is illegal and everyone knows it so instead of crying about it, Put the bong down and march to Washington and try make a difference or get over it because life aint fair and shit gets vilified everyday for unjust reasons.
“March to Washington and try make a difference…” you make it sound so ridiculously easy when it’s not. This “get over it” logic really needs to die because it makes zero sense. Discussion is “doing something about it.” Sure, it doesn’t have immediate or large results on an individual basis, but it goes a long way in generating dialogue that dissects problematic discourses. It’s like saying only people directly combating SOPA or the racist Arizona laws can argue against them. It’s asinine.
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And I just want to make it clear that I know Nick fucked up,
I just take issue with the notions that rules are black and white, and that the quality of rules aren’t as important as the fact that they are rules.
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Ill just add the now stereotypical, Sonnen did much worse. Fighters allowed to use TRTs, ect..
I mean it’s just weed bro.
Oh the hammer has feasted on much troll flesh.
I love you Beer Monster but I have to disagree with your piece.
Before you start screaming “it’s just weed, man!”, let’s get one thing out of the way. It doesn’t matter that it’s “just weed.” NSAC rules say it’s an illegal substance. Whether you agree with that or not is completely irrelevant.
I think it’s completely relevant.
Weed isn’t defined as a PED, the only reason that it’s placed under the illicit substance category is because it is illegal at the federal level.
I really think that the debate surrounding the risks vs benefits of marijuana is an important part of the overall severity of Diaz’s infraction.
The fault (again, if it’s not a false positive) falls entirely upon one person – Nick Diaz.
This is true. And his suspension is the best way to deal with his positive test.
You’ll see Nick Diaz in the octagon in 2013. And people will still care. And that’s pathetic.
If I’m right, the gist of your argument comes down upon the head of Diaz as being an unreliable employee.
I would argue that Diaz has been an incredible employee through his own antics. The fight with GSP got a lot bigger after this Condit fight, and imagining he won the last fight, the suspension would coincide well with a GSP return.
Again, you have an interesting article, don’t let the haters get you down.
And keep writing these sorts of articles, they make the best threads.
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"An incredible employee"??
- He failed to show up to press conference resulting in his title shot being stripped as punishment.
- He failed to deliver once given another chance to redeem himself and get the superfight back on track.
- He retired after losing a fight that was judged unanimously and agreed about by the company President.
- He failed his drug test for the second time in his career(arguably the 3rd or 4th time).
You and I have clearly have different versions of what an “incredible employee” is because as far as im concerned Diaz has been nothing short of a nightmare head fuck for Zuffa.
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by Chin Check on Feb 10, 2012 2:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’d love to see Nick Diaz as a night auditor at a hotel. The manager would come in during first shift to find the laundry room smelling like reefer with Nate passed out on the floor, and Nick choking out some old lady with a gogoplata because she complained about the breakfast.
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 10, 2012 5:12 AM EST up reply actions
I would define an excellent employee as one
who make me a shit-ton of money.
- He failed to show up to press conference resulting in his title shot being stripped as punishment.
And? Shitty move? Improper? Sure, I’m not denying that.
- He failed to deliver once given another chance to redeem himself and get the superfight back on track.
Nothing to do with how much money he’s making for the UFC. By this standard Wanderlei Silva shouldn’t be on contract either.
- He retired after losing a fight that was judged unanimously and agreed about by the company President.
Is he actually going to retire? Do you really think so?
- He failed his drug test for the second time in his career(arguably the 3rd or 4th time).
And the nature of the drug has an impact on this particular failure.
You and I have clearly have different versions of what an "incredible employee" is because as far as im concerned Diaz has been nothing short of a nightmare head fuck for Zuffa.
Oh, I’m not disputing that he’s a nightmare, but he’s a headfuck who pulls in 400k on a sub-par card, that’s all that I’m getting at.
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by Robert Cowan on Feb 10, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Weed isn’t defined as a PED, the only reason that it’s placed under the illicit substance category is because it is illegal at the federal level.
I really think that the debate surrounding the risks vs benefits of marijuana is an important part of the overall severity of Diaz’s infraction.
“I really think” doesn’t matter. I appreciate the respectful comment, but our opinions on the subject don’t matter. The NSAC “law” is written (today) as is. If we were debating it in an open forum where it might lead to change, I think a lot of people here would be surprised about where I’d stand. But it’s not. We’re working in the here and now. This post is based on that.
I would argue that Diaz has been an incredible employee through his own antics. The fight with GSP got a lot bigger after this Condit fight, and imagining he won the last fight, the suspension would coincide well with a GSP return.
I see what you’re saying, but…There was no fight with GSP, and there won’t be. There won’t be a fight with GSP for AT LEAST 18 months now. GSP will be back in 9. Even assuming this suspension didn’t go down, Diaz needs 2 wins to get that fight in the first place. That just seems like a convenient excuse to me.
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by Tim Burke on Feb 10, 2012 2:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"I really think" doesn’t matter. I appreciate the respectful comment, but our opinions on the subject don’t matter. The NSAC "law" is written (today) as is. If we were debating it in an open forum where it might lead to change, I think a lot of people here would be surprised about where I’d stand. But it’s not. We’re working in the here and now. This post is based on that.
I’m sure you’re a reasonable person when it comes to the issue of weed under the law. Hell, you’re a reasonable person in all your posts. But to say that Diaz needs to get fired for getting busted multiple times for weed isn’t allowing for a difference in the severity of the substance.
The Athletic Commission is in charge of the suspension, but White is responsible for the contract. In this regard it really does matter what Diaz’s boss thinks about the specific illicit substance.
I see what you’re saying, but…There was no fight with GSP, and there won’t be. There won’t be a fight with GSP for AT LEAST 18 months now. GSP will be back in 9. Even assuming this suspension didn’t go down, Diaz needs 2 wins to get that fight in the first place.
Well we’re also looking at the fight with hindsight. Assuming Diaz did win, and win decisively, the Buildup to the fight itself would have been a big boon for the UFC’s business in the eventual match.
That just seems like a convenient excuse to me.
Not making excuses. He did something stupid and will be punished for it. I’m only saying that Diaz shouldn’t be cut because: 1. He’s becoming a draw, all the natural drama he creates generates money. 2. The nature of the substance should affect White’s judgement on whether or not to cut him (PED vs weed).
Is White fully within his rights to cut Diaz with disdain for constantly breaking his contract? Yes, of course. But is it a wise move? I personally don’t think so.
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by Robert Cowan on Feb 10, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I read the article finally...
Even though I should have been in bed an hour ago.
Was expecting something waaaaay more controversial given the reaction.
I tend to pretty much agree with everything you said.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 10, 2012 2:30 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Nick Diaz should get off the Heefer and the Penis Blooj. He should get into the Fruits and Vegetables
by Burlap_Sack on Feb 10, 2012 2:33 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
This is just ridiculous.
I’m not a fan of Nick Diaz at all, but to say he should be cut is fucking insanity. The guy smokes weed. He doesn’t try to hide it, nor does it give him some sort of competitive edge. Sure, it’s against the rules, but the rules are just silly in this case. Sure, he shouldn’t have done it, but a year long suspension is more than enough punishment. He is one of the best, most exciting fighters in the world and cutting him would only hurt the fans.
I’m assuming this article was written simply to get this sort of reaction and draw this kind of attention, but by doing so, you’re destroying your credibility. With all the guys in MMA utilizing performance enhancing drugs, shame on you for campaigning against a pothead like Diaz.
by mahalie on Feb 10, 2012 2:38 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
In the eyes of the law and the commission
Potheads and steroid abusers are one in the same and that is the way we need to look at it.
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by Chin Check on Feb 10, 2012 2:40 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
who is this WE you’re talking about? WE don’t need to look at anything, because WE don’t compete, nor are WE on any commission
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by tigerlee on Feb 10, 2012 2:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Taking every word literally to formulate an argument
Weaksauce.
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by Chin Check on Feb 10, 2012 2:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm arguing against a weak premise- maybe you shouldn't have written it if you didn't mean it.
While they are punished in the same manner, I’ll never agree that steroids & marijuana are on the same level, so I will never look at that way. Pushing that idea on everyone is absurd and jack booted.
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by tigerlee on Feb 10, 2012 3:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I can't believe what I'm reading here
I’m just skimming over the 900 comments here but here’s my take.
Since when is it ok to justify breaking one rule by naming something worse you can do. That’s simply absurd. Taking PEDs is illegal, if you do you will be punished for it. Smoking marijuana is illegal, if you smoke it you will be punished. They are both crimes. Quit comparing the two.
There are also a bunch of comments talking about the fact that no one cares if you smoke weed. Really? I don’t and never have smoked but I have friends who have. At this moment they are going through the court system and are looking at probation and fines. The cops cared and so did the judge.
In the end it’s what the post originally stated. It’s not a surprise to anyone that have marijuana in you system is against NSAC rules. He knowing broke said rules. Quit making petty excuse for him.
by Godwulf on Feb 10, 2012 2:41 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
love them generalizations, fiction, & hyperbole.
I don’t and never have smoked but I have friends who have. At this moment they are going through the court system and are looking at probation and fines. The cops cared and so did the judge.
doesn’t sound plausible…were they in the Mystery Machine when this happened?
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by tigerlee on Feb 10, 2012 2:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm from Wyoming
They were followed into the desert by the Sheriff Dept and all five of them were fined. Would you like links to the local newspaper with the crimes? One was my brother. Would you like his name? You sound like it’s hard to believe that people are actually fined for breaking the law.
by Godwulf on Feb 10, 2012 2:52 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
you’re right, the things that happen to you or your friends in Wyoming will happen to everyone who smokes weed, my bad.
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by tigerlee on Feb 10, 2012 2:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Your obviously missing the point
A lot of people on here are talking like weed is illegal but no one cares, including police. They’re wrong. It’s illegal and people are punished daily for it. Justify however you want. It’s still illegal.
by Godwulf on Feb 10, 2012 3:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't know why I didn't hit reply earlier
Sorry about that.
by Godwulf on Feb 10, 2012 2:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ignore him...
Flagrant Diaz lover clutching at straws, Reason has no effect on him.
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by Chin Check on Feb 10, 2012 3:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It has nothing to do with Diaz
And everything to do with both of you making generalizations like “I had a friend who smoked weed & it ruins everyone’s life”, and “We need to agree with these laws because that’s the law” as if Americans voters can’t change laws.
My favorite generalization is that because I don’t agree with you, I must be a Diaz fan.
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by tigerlee on Feb 10, 2012 3:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I never said it ruins everyones life.
I didn’t make generalizations. I said they are receiving fines and probation. After they serve that out it will all be behind them. I said friend cause I didn’t see the need to make it about my life, but in reality it’s my brother going through all this. It’s close to home so I have a pretty good idea what is happening to him legally.
Who said I agree with the law? I don’t smoke but in reality I don’t care if someone else does. Right now it’s illegal but if they legalized it all tomorrow it wouldn’t bug me at all. When your in a sport when it’s illegal for everyone then don’t do it. He knew the law.
by Godwulf on Feb 10, 2012 3:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with the last line. I’m not fighting that point at all.
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No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
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by tigerlee on Feb 10, 2012 3:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Common ground!
Took a while but we found some! Lol
by Godwulf on Feb 10, 2012 3:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They say never go to bed angry
I feel good about this.
Hasta Rastaman
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No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
by tigerlee on Feb 10, 2012 3:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey Joe Rogan:
Knock knock.
JR: Who’s there?
Guess who also blew their chances at ever having a long career in the big show like Diaz?
JR: What? I don’t even-
OBAMA!
Boom!
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by AwkwardwithwordmakingisGoldberg,huhJoe on Feb 10, 2012 2:53 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
this comment. it made getting to the bottom of this clusterfuck totally worthwhile.
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by mollcutpurse on Feb 10, 2012 3:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol volkmannized. nice one
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well if it isn't a good old BE Moral Outrage Clickbait thread.
Guess someone had to pick up the torch for these.
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it's not too late y'know
there are a lot of comments though, it’d be tough
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Release him my butt!
I read this quote in another thread right…
bq. "I think that he’s a guy that got into it before this whole thing blew up. He was 16 and dropped out [of school] and that was 12 years ago. The UFC wasn’t what the UFC is now; MMA wasn’t what MMA is now. He didn’t get into this thing at all for the attention, he didn’t bargain for this side of it.
There is certainly the argument that you have to take the good with the bad and you have to show up to press conferences and all that but I think Nick maybe more than any guy that I’ve covered is truly just a fighter. That’s what he does, that’s what he lives.
He does nothing else, besides a little bit of herbal extra-curricular activity, he does nothing else but train, nothing.
If you go into his house it’s a bunch of fighters that live there. It’s a nice house… There’s Jiu Jitsu mats where the dining room is… There’s like a chandelier hanging over these Jiu Jitsu mats in what should be a dining room but he has no use for that, so there are mats in the room there’s mats all over the place, there’s workout equipment everywhere you look and that’s all he does and that’s not fake."
Right, and this gives me this idea. Nick is out of fights for a year probably, maybe 6 mths if he’s lucky. So get him on the TUF as a coach. Nick and GSP, both recovering and biding their time. But it’s not one house. It’s two, right beside the gym. Nick’s house is like a white trash hovel surrounded by a weed plantation, and smashed up hondas on blocks out in the yard. Every room has mats and training bags and shit in it. Everyone sleeps in their gi. Nick lives in the attic and is only rarely seen, usually at night when all the TUF contestants are asleep. He stalks out of the attic and leans over their sleeping bodies and growls at them.
And GSP is across the street, big Canadian log cabin. Filled with self-effacing shithead Greg Jackson and that awesome balding guy. Greg is like the emperor, trying to corrupt the TUF guys and the bald dude is like yoda, trying to guide them. GSP lectures about dinosaurs.
I haven’t totally thought this through yet.
Nick Diaz brings the craziness out of everyone
i’ve been too busy to comment the past couple days because i’ve been stuck reading all the stupid shit people are saying.
by av1o3 on Feb 10, 2012 4:03 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Holy cow. Some of you guys are flipping right the fuck out.
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Shrug. This is an editorial piece. The writer editorialised and expressed an opinion.
In the end, Diaz gonna Diaz and bloggers are going to capatilise. Has there even been an official word on the length of his suspension? He’ll be back in the UFC, we’ll see him fight again eventually. Dana won’t cut him over this. But I’m not against Burke wanting him cut. If only to hear out his reasons why.
Pathetic? Consider me pathetic then!!
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by mlzybaby on Feb 10, 2012 6:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Hey Tim, looks like your story worked to perfection. You were able to bring out all the Diaz nuthuggers AND haters. Look at all these hits!
by Blow to the back of the head on Feb 10, 2012 7:29 AM EST reply actions
I agree completely
Not on some sort of moral ground or anything, but because Diaz is just too unreliable of an asset. The missed pressers, the history of getting busted for weed, why would the UFC keep around a guy who is constantly a risk to either fail to promote the product or fail to provide a fight that won’t be overturned? A lot of guys pull more serious shit (steroids, criminal activity) but they don’t also refuse to play ball like Diaz. And the product is always paramount.
His unreliability is compensated for by his popularity
I have friends who I’ve been trying to get into MMA for ages e-mailing me out of nowhere (usually I need to nag them to talk about mma) saying WHAT’S UP WITH THAT DIAZ GUY!!!.
Just out of interest, my casual mma watching friends don’t like Diaz at all. He generates interest among them, but I don’t know what sort…
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You must defeat me to stand a chance.
by Gouken on Feb 10, 2012 8:28 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
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You must defeat me to stand a chance.
by Gouken on Feb 10, 2012 8:29 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
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You must defeat me to stand a chance.
by Gouken on Feb 10, 2012 8:29 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
damn cant direct paste..
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You must defeat me to stand a chance.
by Gouken on Feb 10, 2012 8:29 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think he will get cut, but I think more the fact that the UFC don’t really see him as one of “their guys” and the fact that he has caused them a bit of bother with not turning up to the press conferences and now this, I can easily see it happening
StevenGiles is a huge MMA fan and also happens to be the best person in the world. He is also hugely pretentious and loves to have sigs that make a lame effort at exaggerating his own importance
Nick shouldn't have accepted those "goodwill" brownies
that BJ Penn sent him in the mail.
by les rallizes denudes on Feb 10, 2012 8:39 AM EST reply actions
it's official
nick diaz generates more traffic on this site than any other fighter in the world.
i wonder why that is? to me he represents something. we are so frustrated with safe fighters. diaz is the opposite of that. the daley fight in particular. at least that’s how he’s perceived. he’s so clearly not afraid of getting knocked out.
anyway, you guys are all nuts. peace!
Hey mods,
So this thread is pretty crazy. Do you guys have a list or anything of the most highly commented articles/posts? It would be interesting to go back and see. Of course excluding the fight discussions.
Also,
Good article. Every now and again it is good to see the emotions of the writer come out. I don’t need corporate radio all the time. I am glad that you wrote this piece. I too am a fan of Diaz in the cage. Not so much outside of it.
I'm sure he's in the Bahamas drinking Ciroc with a bevy of beauties right now yelling "I'm RICH, bitch!"
with retired Nick Diaz.
If only it were that easy…I dream of a day where writers get paid more than Jay-Z
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No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
Tim Burke
You are my hero of the day. Also my shins hurt and I get more muay thai tonight.
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!
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This might be a moot point
But if other articles have a title that distinguishes its content from other news items (ex. “Asian MMA,” “UFC XXX,” etc.) then how come the title for this isn’t “Opinion: Nick Diaz Should Be Released From The UFC”?
Upon first glance it looks like a news item and not an op-ed. Just a suggestion since other news outlets do that for this very same reason.
by bustachong on Feb 10, 2012 10:55 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Clue number one is that you are on a site that bills itself as “Pound-for-Pound the Best in Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) Commentary, News and Community.” Commentary comes before news, so people here should understand that there’s going to be a lot of opinion floating around, even in the news articles.
Another big clue is that this was posted “in UFC editorial”
Ah, I was reading off my phone, so I didn’t even see the category it was posted in. Didn’t even see the photo of Diaz…the SB Nation app is pretty much just a reader. I just figured if they took the time to denote news articles, fan posts, et al., they could at least do the same for op-eds.
Thanks for the heads up though.
This article is a black eye
I’ve followed BE for a long while and only recently joined, but I’ve noticed a disturbing trend of highly judgmental articles. I guess yellow journalism is a good way for shock jocks (and MMA websites) to generate traffic and revenue, but I don’t think it’s a good practice. This article is akin to a flame piece or an outright troll article. Is it an opinion? Sure. But all opinion pieces are not equal and framing something as opinion does not mean it’s not also yellow journalism.
1100+ comments so I guess the article is a raging success (?) but it’s definitely lowered my opinion of BE
by Armchair Cornerman on Feb 10, 2012 11:03 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
"definitely lowered my opinion of BE"
Considering I’ve read this type of comment on BE about 6K times in response to Snowden, Roth, and now Burke articles, it’s definitely lost it’s threatening tone.
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
by tigerlee on Feb 10, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This.
He’ll be back as always, just like every single poster on this board.
“lowered my opinion” made me LOL. Post your crap just like everyone else does, but GTFO with your elitist bullcrap. This ain’t the WSJ, this is a fing scum-spewing mma forum.
by Kid Kimura on Feb 10, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If you’ve followed BE for a long time you know that right from the start, since it was just Nate and Luke, opinion pieces have been the backbone of the site (along with news – go news!). If you disagree with the post, that’s definitely your prerogative. But the “yellow journalism” thing that gets thrown at anyone that voices a strong opinion on something is played out. And not even correct in this case anyway.
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by Tim Burke on Feb 10, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Go google yellow journalism
It isn’t what you think it is.
"The President has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the President?" -Anonymous
by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Feb 10, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
FINALLY
It’s about time there was a article about diaz that actually makes sense I just hope Dana has the intelligence to take this advice to heart and actually cut ties with nick once and for all
If Nick had won the fight, he should be released
Because of the shitstorm it would´ve caused. However, since he lost, its a little extreme to call out for him to be released. The circumstances are important, its not like he ruined a main event the day before it happened like Marquardt did. Yes, MJ is a banned substance and ilegal, but considering Sonnen got a second shot for PED´s and Melvin Guillard got a second shot for fucking cocaine, Diaz should get one more chance for smoking weed. Cocaine is a WAY worse drug and PED´s is even worse because it makes you stronger, faster, more endurance..
Diaz should get one more shot. Yeah, he fucked up big time, and hes probably gonna be suspended for a year, but to take out the pitchforks and torches is too much. Lets not be total dicks about it, Let him fight after his suspension.
The fuck? This thread is still going strong! Epic.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
Coward
Nick is the true meaning of coward. Before you get offended let me explain with a story. One day Im a work talking to a buddy about ketchup and this little 135 -140 pound kid thats standing close to us in the lunch room says" ketchup is disgusting and garbage" we kind of laugh and say "thanks for your opinion but this was an a b conversation then laughed ignored him, he then says " you think your funny ? Funny like a clown then he laughs. Now im 200 5’10 hit the gym regularly, i’m no0 mma fighter but have been gifted with the type of power in both hads that breaks faces and am a natural wrestler that never was taught, im also 35 , a father of three boys , have a wife, and trying to be a christian and be a good person. Ive come from some bad places. So I blow it off those are fighting words but hes no threat so whatever. After lunch this guy come up to me saying" Jasons says your a bitch says he mouth you off said you where a clown or something said you did nothing" I work in factory 170 employee im pretty furious this will go around shop make me look bad, I say to the guy" that kid is the little bitch I ever met i think he is laughable at best it was a joke to me" Now i go back to work like 3 minintes later this kid is coming up to me in my unit area I dont want to make this any longer so in short he come up in my space and says"you call me a bitch" etc. this goes on for a bit I look at people around me I say to them "you see he is in my space and wont leave right they say yup all witnesses I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? you little bitch" my coworker grabbed me and he left at that point. We get call up to management shortly after, I almost lost my job for doing nothing, kid got suspended from work for 2 weeks. Kid In management offices asked me why hes a bitch said he lipped me of got in my face, I said "a bitch is someone who acts tough to or treats people poorly when there in a place of protection using the fact that I cant lose my job or have police trouble etc. If you where a real man you would wait till after work endanger my safty with witnesses so I have no choice but to defend myself, if you really have beef and want to prove something like your tough that takes balls" kid says after that " if you try anything after work ill call the police on you" kid still doesn’t get it. Nick is the kid in this story talking shit now hes in a place of protection again not fighting gsp and he will never learn. Gsp is me thinking this guy must be mentally delusional or something and don’t even see him a threat more of an annoyance.
Ahoy-hoy.
Last round pick of the Filipino Reccing Machines
by Sugel Mendoza on Feb 10, 2012 2:49 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
well played sir
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
by tigerlee on Feb 10, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Couldn' agree more
Finally someone who makes sense.
When two parties sign a contract it usually means one side will perform certain tasks and the other pays for it. Nick Diaz got paid more money than I will ever get my hands on to not only fight but to fight according to a specified ruleset. Not living up to your end of the agreement over and over again means rescission of the contract. As simple as that.
I would say the UFC has been more than gracious from their side of things and the only reason is that the Diaz Brothers are also phenomenal and exciting fighters and they can make a lot of money putting them on shows.
Signing the contract means you agree to a lot of things. One of those things is to show up on press-conferences. Another one means no use of cannabis. If you still want to smoke it maybe you should not have signed that contract.
Grow up.
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