Pushing Nick Diaz - A Study in Match Making

It is no secret that Nick Diaz basically kept the Strikeforce brand afloat through the last three years of his career. An exciting volume puncher who brings a unique style, always takes big shots, often gets in to trouble, but finishes the vast majority of his fights. These are all highly desirable qualities in a fighter; consistency and excitement being the greatest marketable assets in a fighter - there's a reason Chuck Liddell was the biggest star in MMA during his 3 year, knockout filled winning streak. What many fans do not realize is the efforts which matchmakers go to to make stars like Diaz a reality for their promotion. Despite the welterweight division being filled to the brim with takedown artists, Nick Diaz has still not fought a decent wrestler in the last half a decade.
The Role of a Match Maker
What many fans fail to understand is that there is a reason match makers such as Joe Silva make such huge amounts of money. A matchmaker's job is to either:
1) Put on a barnburning fight
OR
2) Sell a fighter as a superstar
In every event you will see the staple brawlers tend to the first order of business such as Chris Lytle and Chris Leben, fighters who are unlikely to get a title shot on their ability but that a matchmaker can rely on to put on an exciting fight win, lose or draw. Exciting brawlers can often stay in the major leagues of MMA despite a losing record if they entertain the crowds, and this is excellent because not everyone can be a Georges St. Pierre but still deserve gainful employment.
The second concern of selling a fighter is where Joe Silva, and other matchmakers earn their money. It is hard to sell fights under a brand unless there are stars within that brand that act as a figurehead. Often these will be exciting fighters such as BJ Penn, or fighters who have a following from outside MMA such as Brock Lesnar or Herschel Walker.
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This deserves more views and recs.
But it wont get them since it speaks negatively of the Bad Boy Golden Child that is Nick Diaz.
Responding to your bolded section:
I guess it’s for the same reason that there’s few sporting options for amateur wrestlers after college except the Olympics. The shit is boring as fuck!
Why do you think Fitch gets no love? He’s got an awesome record, but no one gives a fuck about seeing him play a wrestling match because people want fights. All those “top notch takedown artists” are snooze fests to 99% of the world’s population. It’s great that you enjoy it, and that it’s fun for you, but most people don’t enjoy it.
I don’t see anything about a manufactured record, just a post wondering why boring fighters don’t get fights. They’re boring. That’s why.
And FFS, if you want your whole article commented on, just post the whole article.
Well aren't you a charming, uneducated man.
I know Fitch and co are boring but most people don’t even realise how padded many records are simply to make guys who wouldn’t get far on a level playing field seem better such as Diaz or Thiago Alves.
by Jack Slack on Feb 9, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also the incentive of following the link...
Is so that you actually know what you’re talking about.
Where was it complaining about boring fighters not getting fights?
Jesus…
Alves?
I agree with the article but Alves was hardly pushed by UFC like Diaz was by StrikeForce. Shit, the guy fought Karo, Hughes and Koscheck in a row. I don’t think that’s avoiding guys with good takedowns, do you?
by Newman24 on Feb 9, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh no, not to the same degree. But the UFC has been trying to push strikers at WW for a while.
It’s why BJ Penn has had such weird match ups too.
The reason why Nick hasn't faced a top wrestler during his stint in Strikeforce
was not because wrestlers are boring, but because everyone and their dog knew Nick has trouble with those kinds of fighters. Padded, no, since some of those guys like Daley were legit fighters and very tough and dangerous, but you can’t deny the last few years his fights have been catered to Nick’s strenghts, not his weaknesses.
Hence the point of building a fighter. Sometimes you gotta carry them a bit. Even the UFC did it. Nick’s first fight was against Penn, who really isn’t known for his offensive wrestling (minus the Fitch fight of course). There’s a reason why Nick didn’t get Jon Fitch. They could have easily waited to make that fight, but instead gave it to Penn. And it worked out for them. Condit, not so much, but that’s Nick’s shortcomings for you, even as a boxer.
"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.
The reason Nick didn't face a top wrestler in Strikeforce is because there was no top wrestler in Strikeforce for Diaz to fight
Did you really want to see him smash Tyrone Woodley?
by discoandherpes on Feb 10, 2012 7:01 AM EST up reply actions
To be fair
When I responded the original title of your post was something along the lines of “Nick Diaz’s Manufactured Record”. That title along with the bolded section left me with the impression that you were arguing that there was some grand conspiracy by big money match-makers to feed Diaz tomato cans. The counter point that I failed to make was that those fights with “top notch takedown artists” didn’t materialize because the fights would have been boring. Not because UFC and Strikeforce brass want to “manufacture” Nick’s record.
Always enjoy your writing.
I suppose that’s tension for MMA fans, respecting the building of fighters and starts to keep the sport healthy from a business angle, while wanting to see emerging stars tested hard to keep the sport healthy from a legitimacy angle. You need both for long-term success, and boxing is on shaky ground in the next decade because padded records have become so commonplace, it’s impossible for a casual fan to know which 20-0 records are legit and which are fluff.
I tend to come down on the legitimacy side of things, but Joe Silva is generally very good about maintaining a balance.
Share for share, share alike, you'll get struck each time I strike.
Nice article
Until Diaz shows that he can hang with the wrestlers of the division I have a hard time seeing him as a top fighter.
I would really like to see how Nick Diaz faces a wrestler these days. I don’t think that he really got his boxing and constant forward pressure down like he does now when he fought Sherk. Also, he is very good at scrambling back to his feet, constantly attacking from his back, and doesn’t get tired. I really do believe that the Nick Diaz now would do much better against wrestlers and takedown artists than back then.
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People look at the loss to Sherk and assumed Sherk out wrestled him
When the fact is Diaz out wrestled and out grappled Sherk pretty easily.
by discoandherpes on Feb 10, 2012 7:02 AM EST up reply actions
I remember watching that fight on UFC Unleashed a while back, and all Sherk did was get him up against the cage and try to take Diaz down, but Diaz would just stuff the takedowns most of the time.
I would really like to see Nick Diaz against a guy who will try to really take him down in hope that he can disprove the idea that a good wrestler or takedown artist would beat him by decision. I think his game has really evolved since he fought Sherk. Granted, his offensive takedowns stink, but his defensive grappling has only been briefly tested by BJ Penn.
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by chrisbboy82 on Feb 10, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions

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