Carlos Condit Vs. Nick Diaz Rematch In Jeopardy, Was Never 'Official'
by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 8, 2012 2:08 PM EST
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PrintLet me start by apologizing for my wording on the post this morning, I ran a post with the headline "Carlos Condit Vs. Nick Diaz Rematch Becomes Official Amid Managerial Confusion." The bout was not official at that point, Dana White had simply confirmed that Condit had agreed to the bout. That was sloppy on my part and I apologize for any confusion caused by it.
It now appears, from reports coming from a variety of different directions, that the rematch will not happen due to an "issue" in the Diaz camp. No one has yet been quite willing to say what the "issue" is, but I've heard it from enough people that it does seem there is something that is keeping the Diaz camp from being able to accept the fight.
The first person I saw reporting that there was a problem was Front Row Brian on Twitter (some tell me he also beat everyone to news of Condit agreeing to the fight yesterday).
Cesar Gracie hinted that something was also going on a few moments ago via his Twitter:
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We don't need an immediate rematch
Even if GSP is essentially shelved until 2013 as a result of this fight, you’re still preventing contenders like Hendricks and Ellenberger from getting any closer to either interim or actual belt.
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by SSreporters on Feb 8, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Both of those guys need another fight before they challenge. Timing wouldn’t work out for the unification boot with gsp
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 2:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Basically it means that both of them will need another fight
And the belt won’t be unified until next year unless Condit vs. Diaz doesn’t go through.
Because if Condit vs. Diaz is a rematch and is a war, not a chance in hell they fight again the rest of 2012.
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November is a long way away. I feel like that could fight in May or June and make a November date easily. Meanwhile, Ellenberger/Sanchez should fight Hendricks or even a possibility of Alves/Kampann. Just keep the WW division rolling while the Diaz/Condit/GSP scenario plays out. That way we get a stronger contender once the time comes.
What is your ideal plan if Condit and Diaz don’t rematch? Because now that I think about it, Condit vs Ellenberger is starting to sound really appealing. Winner gets a shot at GSP. Is that yours?
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Agreed on Hendricks
but Ellenberger is on a 5 fight win streak and just blasted Jake Shields. Nothing wrong with him getting another crack at Condit
Thanks, I didn’t realize how night of a streak Jake was on. So yes, in a pinch they could use him. But it still seems less than optimal considering the small platform of his win against shields.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 2:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Ugh, night = big. Damn you auto correct.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 2:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Agreed on the small platform for the Shields beatdown
plus since it was coming after Shields’ loss to GSP it certainly isn’t as impressive to everyone as if he had stopped Shields’ massive win streak of his own
Jake’s victory over Jake was seen by more people than Diaz’s victories over Cybord, Daley and BJ Penn, probably even combined.
Fighting on a Spike card gets you more eyeballs than SF shows, or low-selling PPV shows…
The majority of those viewers don't buy ppvs.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 2:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Exactly ans if I remember right that event had low viewership for a spike card
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 2:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
1.8 million viewers… ie, more than the best selling PPV ever. I’d say that plenty of people saw Jake’s victory over Jake.
Haha, you cannot under any circumstances equate cable viewers to ppv buyers. But thanks for looking it up, I thought the numbers were lower than that. 1.8 isn’t too low, but they’ll need a lot of fight hype if they decide to make that match.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 2:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Pierson and Howard are borderline Ufc caliber. The split decision win over Rocha was an awful performance.
by Hardcharger on Feb 8, 2012 3:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I love his fight against Rocha. After a rough first round, he completely adjusted his game plan to get the win.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 3:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah, and whomever wins the championship boot will be the undisputed shoe guru
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Also it would serve as a very bad example in favor of Diaz and would surely cause a row among other fighters who must wait for years to get a title shot again. I dont see any more legacy on behanf of Diaz than on behalf of any fighters that have lost a title fight.
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by FreeLightningLee on Feb 8, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Curious as to what this issue could be.
Wouldn’t think it’d be Diaz who’d reject the fight.
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Puff puff pass. Aka a suspension.
by Hutchy on Feb 8, 2012 2:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
That FrontRowBrian guy on Twitter who originially broke that this fight would happen said something about it being on Diaz’s end. Quotes from him:
BREAKING NEWS Carlos Condit vs. Nick Diaz II will NOT happen. An issue arose from Nick’s camp last night. Nick will NOT be able to compete
I will not go into nature of why N. Diaz can’t compete in a rematch against Condit. Condit will be in Vegas Friday to complete GSP deal
To be very clear- Malki Kawa and Cesar Gracie both wanted this fight before issue arose. They were working the fans to push Dana’s hand
@WillHam27 It will be released publicly.
Not hurt… RT @hatetheface: @FrontRowBrian @DE_rek_XC @mauroranallo is nick hurt? do you know anything you cant say?
I guess time will tell. This is the guy who originially broke the news, I believe and he has done so in the past so I don’t think he is just full of shit.
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Not lookin good for nick
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 2:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
And now I’m feeling pretty confident that he failed his drug test. That’s what this feels like. It’s my guess, at least (I know, way to go out on a limb).
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Yup its either that or he’s pregnant again.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 2:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
that might be it
or Diaz might still be pouting about Condit throwing spinning shit, bitch leg kicks, and “running” and doesn’t want to take the second title shot that is literally being handed to him. if that’s the case, then he really is crazy.
That's my thought
I don’t think he can handle all of that press without help. Sucks for him, really. That level of anxiety is terrible.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Yeah I think he needs the weed to cope with the press.
And a positive test is a result of that. It really does suck. I don’t want to speculate too hard right now, it’s just that this seems like the most likely scenario.
He seems to have some of the worst anxiety I’ve seen, especially in a professional athlete. But I’m no doctor. It’s a shame.
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It sucks because
you can clearly see the medical need this guy has and it’s anything BUT a performance enhancer. You’re right about the speculation too, I hope we’re both wrong.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
and they get TEU's for them.
Its a shame that Nick can’t get a TUE because some people in government have hangups on mary jane.
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by The Lethal Haze on Feb 8, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know why people keep blaming the government and the drug laws for this.
Nevada allows medical marijuana, they don’t have to give him an exemption. They forced credeur out of a fight because of adderall, this isn’t about the war on drugs.
except you know
aderal is speed, and weed is basically the opposite of that. I can see the argument against fighting someone hopped up on meth. Not the happy, sleepy, hungry drug.
And the fact that one guy can get a TEU for steroids, but none are given for MJ is fucked up. IMO.
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by The Lethal Haze on Feb 8, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
I don't
just an assumption. To my knowledge a few TEUs have been given for roids, none for pot. Do you know for a fact there have been MJ TEUs?
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by The Lethal Haze on Feb 8, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Well, you have a point I can't really argue with there
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by The Lethal Haze on Feb 8, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, but I'm talking from a libertarian stance
as in fighting high on MJ is bad for me (in theory) but doesn’t affect my opponent.
Fighting on speed is good for me (increased awareness, reaction time, pain tolerance is increased) and bad for my opponent. Which is why it shouldn’t be allowed.
But you’re a smart guy. and you already knew this
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by The Lethal Haze on Feb 8, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Drugs aren’t always just banned because of danger to the opponent, bad for you is a big reason. That’s why you can’t fight drunk, and the danger of your heart exploding is why adderall is banned (at least according to the NSAC when they didn’t let Credeur fight).
I mean, I wouldn't fight inebriated if I had the choice
But I’d think fighting after drinking alcohol isn’t cool because of the increased pain tolerance thing.
And I think choosing to fight while high is insane. If you choose to fight high, thats on you. I just don’t think having THC in your bloodstream means your fights are invalid if you win them.
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by The Lethal Haze on Feb 8, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
He doesn’t need the weed to cope with the press, he simply needs the weed. Be serious.
If he truly has anxiety issues then there are ways to relive it without resorting to drugs. It’s just simply easier for him to do that because he doesn’t give a shit about the consequences.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Dude
I really think you don’t understand what that level of anxiety can do to you. It absolutely has to be medicated sometimes and the prescription drugs for it have awful side effects.
I don’t smoke but, honestly, weed is the best treatment I have ever seen for it.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
yeah, plus he trains for triathlons and professional MMA and even that obscene amount of exercise doesn’t alleviate the tension. for most normal human beings that would be plenty.
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by mollcutpurse on Feb 8, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Honestly, "coping" with an anxiety disorder is easier said than done.
Marijuana is one method of relieving it, though it can make matters worse in some people. Diaz doesn’t seem like the type of person who would be particularly open to therapy, so he’s left with taking medication, or medicating himself.
This is the truth
I’ve been having anxiety attacks off and on since my pre-teen years. When it’s really bad, it always feels like something awful has either just happened or is about to happen. I go one weird mood swings at times where everything is perfect and then, out of nowhere, all of my best friends becomes enemies to me and everything in my life seems weight right against my chest.
I’ve had a few psychologists that have said I can use marijuana instead of the usual anti-anxiety medication. Unfortunately weed has never really helped my anxiety, and, in fact, it makes some of my neurotic and agoraphobic symptoms much worse. Then again, I find the anti-anxiety medication just as bad; it mellows me out, but I doubt you could actively train for a fight with that stuff running in your system. Sometimes that medication makes you feel like you’re dreaming when you’re awake—-and I had a REALLY small dose and none of the pressures a pro fighter must feel.
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And just to contrast your experience
I’ve had anxiety that started extremely severe and over the years I’ve been able to fight/process/control it (for themost part). But during that, I did start off with medium/low prescriptions. I’m not a weed smoker, and I also am not fan of hard drugs, didn’t want anything too crazy. So my doctor worked with me. Had to try about 10 medications to get the right one & dosage, but it helped immensley. Eventually I kept lowering my dosages and now for about 4 months now I haven’t used a single pill.
So it really all depends. But the truth is, weed isn’t the only option, and being a fighter who gets drug tested, why wouldn’t you try going a legitimate and safe route so you can continue your career?
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For sure. Cognitive Therapy is probably the only real solution anyway
or, as you said, trying out a number of different medications. And, frankly, we don’t know if Diaz is on anything. He might be taking anxiety medication now, or his anxiety issues could all be speculation by his weird and at-time off-putting behaviour in front of the cameras.
From what I can recall, nobody from Diaz’s camp has ever mentioned these anxiety issues. He’s certainly an oddball, but most of our understanding of his psyche is pure speculation.
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True
all this talk about anxiety, and and excusing/justifying his usage, but hell, maybe he just simply likes to smoke and nothing more… not that hard to fathom
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Smoking does not help with anxiety, it makes it much much worse, this is from someone that has/had it (its almost non existent now) and i smoked for 3 years everyday about 3-5 times a day. It made me extremely relaxed but it amplified anything I was anxious about. The only thing that ever helped when it was bad for me was alcohol it made me feel normal with 0 anxiety, but thats how people develop dependencies on that type of stuff.
Dude, my mother in law has been treated for anxiety for years. She is anti-medicine if at all possible so instead she focuses on meditation and such. In her own words she has never felt better. All without drugs. Legal or not.
It’s very much possible to treat the disorder without resorting to weed. There are options out there, he just apparently doesn’t partake of the right ones.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just because it works for her
Doesn’t mean it works for everyone.
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by Worldisart on Feb 8, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
That's really nice to hear about your mom in law
but to think her situation is somehow the final arbiter for anyone else with anxiety is short-sighted. Some people have it worse than others. For people that have it so bad they NEED medicine, the options are much, MUCH more limited.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
True enough. The problem though is that he is a fighter who isn’t allowed to smoke regardless of medical exemptions. If he can’t deal with the limitations they are imposing, then he needs to find a new career.
What he doesn’t need is yet more people enabling him and his bad choices.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
If he can’t deal with the limitations they are imposing, then he needs to find a new career.
What he doesn’t need is yet more people enabling him and his bad choices.
All of this is probably true, but it doesn’t make it less tragic. He is such an amazing athlete and fighter, it’s just a shame this disorder is so debilitating for him.
It’s made extra silly because of the odd illegality of it.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
He doesn't need a new career. Fighting defines him, he looks genuinely content and determined in training.
Taking that away would probably make matters far worse. He definitely does need help, at least if he wants to function well with all the media obligations he’s facing as a top contender, but I don’t think quitting MMA is the answer.
In his own words he only fights to make money for things he’d rather be doing. He would rather be doing triathlons if at all possible.
Fighting is imo part of his fuel. Remove that and maybe he’d be in a better place.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
him hating fighting is a recent happening of the last three years, or so.
In an interview in 2007, he was aying that he loved it and that he wanted to beat ‘motherfuckers up’.
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What we say and do when we are younger is more than subject to change as we grow. His wanting to be a fighter five years ago and his not wanting to fight today are proof of that.
Fighting isn’t healthy of Diaz and he should honestly truly retire.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he should at least take a breather.
And then think about going back if he feels like he misses it.
It’s funny, but people elect to ignore that even when he was winning back in Strikeforce, Nick was talking about wanting to be done with it all. Seems to me like his anxiety is getting the better of him.
He should just focus on getting better, but I doubt he has a team of people around him that can even recognize what kind of issues Nick has to address for himself and, even though they mean well, can’t really be of much use in that department.
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yes i really agree with you!!
the bad thing is his team seems only to fuel his rage even unnecessarily. His issues they want to use as a weapon on his side but its not quite the solution always. And yes he was always saying that but i think its kinda same when ppl say they want to retire and stuff. If he wouldnt like fighting he wouldnt do it imo.
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Yes. But those kinds of routines are something normal folk come up with, and Nick isn't normal.
We all know this, I don’t understand why we keep getting offended or annoyed with him when he can’t meet those very requirements.
On one side we mock him b/c he’s completely out of it, but on the other we become incredibly butt clenched whenever he acts out. Which is which, I wonder.
If anything, what does it say about us that we keep insisting upon this?
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Exactly. He needs to focus on getting better. Part of that means taking responsibility for his own actions and taking the time needed to realize what he truly wants for himself.
Sadly though I can’t see that happening with the people he has aligned around him.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think it is that easy to call.
We are outsiders, and we are not privy to most of the stuff that goes over there. i rather not seriously speculate on that stuff.
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I can understand that feeling and don’t really disagree with it myself. People’s private lives should be private regardless of fame level. Sometimes you get to talking though and we forget that.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not tragic at all though. Some people just are not cut out for jobs that they personally may want. No matter how good at that job they would be.
Personally I spent much of my younger life thinking that I would like to be a social worker. At a certain point in my life though I realized that I would not be able to cope with dealing with some of the parents and rules involved. Instead of continuing to push forward with this idea, I adjusted and found something that suited my personality better.
Diaz obviously isn’t suited to being a fighter regardless of how good he is at it. Instead of realizing that though, he has continued to rail at the world and it’s injustice because he doesn’t agree with abiding by the rules. Worst of all though nobody in his life is telling him that. Instead his family, camp, friends, fans… everybody is telling him that he isn’t the problem.
Yes though the pot legality issue is ridiculous, but it is still illegal for him to be using. It’s that simple in the end.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
To back up your point
I’ve dealt with severe anxiety at points in my life and I can tell you that weed was very beneficial in coping and being able to function when it got really bad.
I tried non medical ways and sometimes they worked, sometimes they just made things worse.
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I had anxiety attacks that were very debilitating for several years
I don’t begrudge people looking for a way to make it better, because it is terrifying when it is happening. But I don’t think weed leads to a long-term solution and it can cause problems down the road.
There are other, better ways to deal with anxiety attacks.
Meditation works great for some people, but psych issues are far from cut-and-dry.
Keep in mind that symptoms may look the same across cases, but they can be caused by a wide variety of things, from disordered thinking to chemical imbalances. There is no miracle pill or treatment.
I completely understand that. I just find it ridiculous the amount of people who excuse his self treating when he is a fighter.
If he has tried other methods and they haven’t worked, then he needs to expect to be punished for using a method which is against the rules. If he hasn’t tried other methods, then he should expect to be punished for breaking the rules. That simple really.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Because unlike trt, the commissions do not allow it regardless of prescription.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Except that he doesn't need to cope with the press.
Some people just aren’t well-suited to some careers. If Nick can’t deal with the press, then Nick isn’t well-suited to being a star athlete in an individual sport.
People with low VO2 max aren’t well-suited to being competitive cyclists. That doesn’t mean they should be allowed to take drugs to improve their VO2 max.
by Llewdor on Feb 8, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He is a fighter
not an actor.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
I guarantee the media responsibilities for King of the Cage are much more relaxed and informal
Nick doesn’t want to be a fighter. He wants to be an extremely well-paid fighter. And that means media, whether he likes it or not.
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by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Feb 8, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
His career isn't in media relations
It’s punching dudes in the face, something he does extremely well.
by discoandherpes on Feb 8, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
I think the fact that he is such an odd case in front of the press is only helping him anyways. I often wonder if people would be as into him if he was a calm and well-spoken individual.
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by NickRingp4pGOAT on Feb 9, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Would be my first guess too.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 8, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't it too soon for that?
Also, I’d guess Cesars tweets would read different if that was it.
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No. I think I did. It was a bad look on my part.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 8, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Shit happens
What do you think is going on with Diaz?
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You went with how Dana was making it sound on twitter.
As far as I’m concerned, Dana was talking out his ass.
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by Paulo Filho's Psychiatrist on Feb 8, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
It was good you did
Responsibility is a good look for someone in your position.
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It’s unbelievable how much drama UFC143 has caused.
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Gsp is guaranteed a high buy rate on his own. I don’t think hos return being against Diaz raises the potential buys very significantly
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 2:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think GSP vs. Diaz would attract Pro Wrestling people
Because Condit vs. GSP would be way too friendly buddy-buddy. Diaz shittalking would get even more buys.
Diaz is GSP’s Sonnen, with the difference being as you said that GSP has a high buyrate by himself.
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Chris you are strugglin. First a return boot, indicating ur Canadian heritage, now talkin about hos fighting GSP.
by Hutchy on Feb 8, 2012 2:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don’t ever accuse me of being Canadian. ’MURICA!
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 2:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Even if the buys weren't affected...
and I think they might well be (Diaz has some mutant mainstream appeal IMO), it would still be a chance for Diaz to grow in exposure and try to build up that next generation of MMA star in front of a new audience. Basically, trying to rub some of the shine of GSP off onto another fighter.
I think the dip on the PPV buy rate is pretty visible when GSP is out of the picture, and they’re probably hunting hard to find someone to fill that void. With the (expected) influx of FOX viewers the ground is fertile for some real breakout personalities, but it’s not clear yet who can fill that role (if anyone).
Why build him not Condit?
Diaz is volatile and has one foot out the door for years now, Building him is risky and potentially non-rewarding.
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by KGNLuc on Feb 8, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Valasquez, Jones, Edgar...
the UFC has some serious marketing muscle, but there are limits even to that. Right now I think there’s a perceived dearth of huge MMA personalities. The GSPs, Brocks, Lidells, or Ortizes… and while their champs are hugely impressive in the ring, that hasn’t necessarily translated into PPV buys or increased awareness.
So that next step, the one that will get big numbers of those juicy new FOX viewers to start buying up PPVs or even breakout into the mainstream consciousness, is going to require a little something more. Something that hooks, or fascinates, people. Something to capture the imagination.
To whatever extent, Brock has it, GSP has it… I think Diaz has it too. He’s polarizing, unreliable, and every TV executives worst nightmare, but I think his unfiltered personality, brashness, attitude, and honesty really resonate with fans in a unique way. Look at how many posts come up here whenever he fights. Hell, he probably got more press out of his no-show than most full UFC cards manage. Something about that guy just gets people passionate and talking…
I think if the UFC could bestow that kind of media-stickiness upon people they’d definitely chose a more corporate friendly candidate, and they don’t quite seem to know what to with Diaz. But these things have an element of magic to them that I don’t think you can quite control…
I just feel like Nick Diaz could be the Stone Cold Steve Austin of MMA. Stone Cold held up a six-pack, gave McMahon the finger, and blew up into national stardom. Nick Diaz rips hits from his bong and plays with nunchucks while doing conference calls… In the middle of the second great recession, I can see how a hard working guy who’ll tell any and everyone to go fuck themselves could catch fire…
Just use Nate then
He’s basically the same, but more reliable.
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This fight wasn’t as close as everyone is saying it was.
I’ll never understand this.
Why can almost no one be reasonable about this fight?
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How about “it shouldn’t be as controversial .”?
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In whose opinion?
Its basically saying that your opinion is better than everyone who disagrees with you.
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Just trying to dowse the flames. I made peace with this bout the moment the scores were read. No more please.
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totally agree—i wish the condit people would at least recognize that reasonable people can disagree as to who won that fight. i won’t try to persuade them to agree with me that it was diaz, but i also wouldn’t call them names for not agreeing with me.
by thuggis on Feb 8, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Its mandatory here
If someone disagrees with you, its because they are stupid and not a real fan.
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
Come on, man.
Don’t do that. Don’t be that guy.
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by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Feb 8, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Huh?
Have you been reading the threads?
A lot of people have been doing exactly that.
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Lots of unreal fans, then.
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by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Never liked either. I'm more of a Halo fan, myself.
I like shiny shit, but I don’t play online. I have a better time playing coop with my brother.
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I enjoyed my time with Halo back in the day, never got into the multiplayer after the first one, pretty much just hit up the campaigns with friends and left it at that; BF3 is my new jam when I get free time.
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by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
I don't enjoy single player FPS's.
’MURICA-FUCK-YEAH! ones even less.
Futuristic fantasy settings are more my cup of tea. And plus, Halo has a vertical component to the gameplay and good AI. Other shooters feel like playing a 2D game, at times.
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Yeah I can see that for sure, other games are becoming more vertical for sure though; I think my drop off in halo had more to do with not being able to get lan games going at my university after Halo2 came out so it kinda just dropped from my radar.
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If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. But since I don't play multiplayer, i don't really mind.
I mostly just replayed the campaigns over and over again on the hardest settings. The AI is so competent that it does a bunch of pseudo random things depending on your input. When they further added skulls, that basically function as difficulty modifiers, I was in heaven.
We’ve played all the way up to Halo Reach, just by going through the campaign alone and the Firefight.
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Those games are classics, appreciated only by the glorious PC gaming master race.
Tribes.
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by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
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Unreal Tournament ‘99 and 2k4 (let’s pretend 2k3 and 3 never happened) were bloody brilliant, even if they weren’t quite as polished as Quake 3 was. Lots of team modes, interesting weapons, mods galore… awesome.
by Pyrgz Krum on Feb 8, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i hear Quake 3 is free now and can be played over the internet, or something.
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Unreal Tournament 99 was the bomb. It might not have been as popular as the Quake series, but it blew it away as far as fun went imo.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
UT99 was indeed very good.
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by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Facing Worlds FTW
“Quake 3” had the more refined gameplay-mechanics but “Unreal Tournament” had more fun weapons and maps.
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Quake 3 had immensely more complex gameplay due to the physics of the game – the reason i enjoyed it.
A very skilled player could actually run faster then the speed of the rocket fired from a rocket launcher.
Just google Quake 3 tricking , strafejumping, defrag etc. This complex physics actually started a whole knew type of gameplay that didn’t involve shooting opponents so people filmed themselves trying to do the best possible trick. The result of those filmed tricks was a new area of movies filmed inside games, so Machinima was born.
I think i went too far…
by krste on Feb 8, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Especially because of the tidal wave of fighters and MMA people crushing Condit and basically calling him a pussy. It’s not like either side has unanimous support.
by Hutchy on Feb 8, 2012 2:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
That is to say
If 50% of people had the fight scored for one fighter and 50% scored it for another, obviously it was a very close fight.
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"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
I’d say that there are a lot of very subjective fight fans, that’s what I’d say.
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If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal
by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Both ways
Unless of course, the people who agree with you aren’t subjective at all. Which seems realistic.
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
I honestly am trying to be 100% objective about this, not only did I pick Diaz to win (my BECW team probably hates me at this point) but I like both fighters and watching the fight multiple times I came to the same conclusions each time; Condit was outstriking Diaz for the majority of the 25 minutes, Condit was taking less damage and was clearly dictating where the fight took place by keeping it in the center of the octagon each time it would get pressed in a direction.
Point by point:
Condit landed more strikes and inflicted more damage.
Condit controlled where the fight took place.
Condit received minimal damage in comparison to Diaz.
I won’t argue that there are rounds that are close, but the majority of the rounds were pretty clearly Condit and more obviously so upon repeat viewing.
Also don’t say
The condescension on BE has reached new levels
When you have the tone of condescension in your own post just a few above this saying “obviously it was a close fight”; I’m not going to get into a shitfire fest with you here but I’m not being condescending by saying there were a lot of very subjective views on this fight because of peoples feelings on Diaz one way or the other.
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The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal
by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Ugh I can’t believe I’m getting into scoring this fight again. I think I’m going to go slam my head into a desk.
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The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal
by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Before you slam your head into the desk
Shorten your sig please. Thanks haha.
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by NickaG on Feb 8, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Never! Give me sig liberty or give me death.
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The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal
by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
You can read it with that tone
or you can just look at it objectively. I was in no way insulting or trying to be condescending.
It was obviously a close fight, or at least one that could easily be interpreted that way. Unless of course you think your opinion counts far more than thousands of other peoples’, professional fighters included.
I took your post to mean that people who didn’t see it your way were being ‘very subjective’. Which is a smug, condescending insult.
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
And I took your post as being condescending as well, so maybe we misunderstood eachother. I was trying to say that there were a lot of subjective opinions on this fight based on peoples general feelings on Diaz one way or the other.
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The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
I'm a huge Diaz fan but could see how it was scored for Carlos
This fight is tearing us apart!
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"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
It's ok bro, I respect you bro
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by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Have you seen how much people hate Nick Diaz around here?
I don’t trust them to score a close fight for Nick Diaz ever.
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
by Tats16 on Feb 8, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
What if we like both Diaz and Condit, bet on Diaz to win, but still understand and agree with the Condit decision? :(
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If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal
by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
thats fine
I’m not saying all the people who scored it for Condit are diaz haters, but there is a lot of people here who loathe the very exisitance of the Diaz bros, and I just can’t accept their scoring as valid because I know they’re biased to hell.
I love both fighters, picked Diaz to win except I feel that fight was very very close and could have went either way.
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
What if we don't disagree with the decision
but like insulting people who do?
That’s my whole thing. Everyone is turning into seriously condescending jerks about this fight.
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I heard Diaz has shin splints
from chasing Condit for 25 minutes.
OH BURN!
ZING!
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by IKiIIed007 on Feb 8, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
Condit clearly should've come forward guns ablaze so Diaz could win
Condit landed more strikes than Diaz. Not bad for someone who ran.
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I thought the zing and oh burn
made it pretty obvious I was being silly.
No, you're not drunk. I am this good-looking.
by IKiIIed007 on Feb 8, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Let's not do this again.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 8, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. We can do this rematch later
Oh you meant something else.
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I heard Condit has shin splints
after slamming into Diaz’ legs and face some 70 times.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 8, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
LOL "slamming"
He must kick like a girl then. If I kicked someone 70 times, he’d be dead, not pissed off.
No, you're not drunk. I am this good-looking.
by IKiIIed007 on Feb 8, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The way Diaz was walking like a zombie in the later rounds,
and with how many times he was changing stances to protect that leg, yes- those kicks did damage.
And bro.. you could kick Nick Diaz a million times and he would still keep coming at you. Let’s not try to act like you’re a better striker than Carlos Condit.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 8, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
There was a huge difference between the few hard and the majority of other leg-kicks of Condit though.
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Even the lead leg was landing solid.
If it wasn’t, Diaz would’ve walked through it and hit Carlos with a counter.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 8, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
How solid they landed, nobody knows. All I’m saying is that Condit landed a handful of Jose-Aldo-certified leg-kicks and a hell of a lot that were not nearly as substantial. That Diaz didn’t counter the weaker ones could just have been Condits great timing.
"A belt only covers two inches of your ****and the rest you need to back up on your own." Royce Gracie (allegedly...I just read it somewhere and thought it was cool for my sig!)
It's not hard to see whether a kick lands solidly.
I was keeping an eye on it the whole time, and Carlos’ kicks had good snap behind them.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 8, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting......
In your hypothetical example, is it Nick Diaz that you’re kicking? Is he doing anything about it?
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by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Feb 9, 2012 3:42 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t worry Brent.
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by Machiel Van on Feb 8, 2012 2:14 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
titles when posting that face, man!
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
Definitely read this as "titties when posting that face, man!"
aimed at the crotch...
by Damon O. on Feb 8, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Couldn’t hurt
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 2:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Allow me to point to Anton’s Asian MMA update with the ring girl picture in the header… =)
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If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall
by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Always appreciated.
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Tell me this is a real shirt.
They will have a hundred of the earth dollars if it is.
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by Paulo Filho's Psychiatrist on Feb 8, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
The crazy part of my brain tells me that Nick went ahead and hurt himself, somehow.
It’s nuts, but I wouldn’t put it beyond him.
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by Bloody L on Feb 8, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
possibly a nunchuck bong
I wouldn’t put it past him.
by Balrog on Feb 8, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
LOL
"To me in this sport, it’s fighting, it’s mixed martial arts, and I feel there’s too many athletes and not enough fighters…I think these people going in taking these sports enhancement drugs, they’re not real fighters, they’re athletes. I’m a fighter. I’m a real fighter. That’s all I did my whole life." - BJ Penn
Great sequence
"To me in this sport, it’s fighting, it’s mixed martial arts, and I feel there’s too many athletes and not enough fighters…I think these people going in taking these sports enhancement drugs, they’re not real fighters, they’re athletes. I’m a fighter. I’m a real fighter. That’s all I did my whole life." - BJ Penn
Do you mind if I reply to myself too?
"To me in this sport, it’s fighting, it’s mixed martial arts, and I feel there’s too many athletes and not enough fighters…I think these people going in taking these sports enhancement drugs, they’re not real fighters, they’re athletes. I’m a fighter. I’m a real fighter. That’s all I did my whole life." - BJ Penn
Maybe Nick wants Anderson Silva money
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
GSP can get his belt back whenever he wants
Book GSP v. Diaz.
Let Condit fight Ellenberger after he slides past Diaz.
by HeadKickLegSweep on Feb 8, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I’ve heard SOMETHING of a reason, but I can’t say what until it’s released.
Because if I’m wrong and say it…bad news.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 8, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions
Did Nick hurt himself on purpose?
It’s crazy but…
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Think: Nick Diaz + obvious problems involving fights
That’s all I can say since I’m not 10000% sure on it.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 8, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
He fought baked again?
Wouldn’t put it beyond the guy, honestly.
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We're just rampantly speculating right now.
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Good point.
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For drug test speculation:
If he failed his drug test, wouldn’t the news be coming from the commission, and not from his camp? Unless he blazed in the locker room and was planning on getting busted from the get go…
FUCK.
If it is what I think it is… …FUCK.
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what do you think it is?
Seriousssss face…
He fought high?
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
So funny.
But so likely.
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although question:
if he did…how does that effect a rematch?
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Suspensions affect rematches.
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Unless you stage them in international waters...
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by Unabomberman on Feb 8, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
I'm going to make orphans of his children
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by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
If he did. And I’m not sayign he did. It will be the second time failing a drug test in Nevada. So a pretty big suspension I’d guess.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 8, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
It'd be the 2nd time he failed a drug test
And 3rd disciplinary issue, which I would think would be at least a 1 year suspension.
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how long does it take to get the drug test results back?
i.e., is it plausible they just got them last night?
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If Nick was smoking in the weeks before the fight
It doesn’t take a rocket surgeon in his camp to figure out that he is not going to pass.
by MS_Dos_Santos on Feb 8, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I know people who use products like Strip to temporarily cleanse their system. I’m amazed that a pro fighter couldn’t figure out how to remove their body of the toxins prior to a test, if that’s the case. Again.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 8, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Diaz is not too smart though.
I used to partake in the tokeage and once smoked the day before a drug tes and passed with flying colors.But i think they sometimes test blood and that is harder to deal with what I did was used a preservative witch masked my system sealing my piss track.
I thought they also tested for cleansers and masking agents
I’m not 100% but that could be a reason too
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by Unabomberman on Feb 8, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh shit Nick.
Gomi again?
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For real. Much respect. But after everything settles you just GOTTA dish on this rumor.
by Jeteyes on Feb 8, 2012 2:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No, Brent, don't do it.
Mindless speculation is funnier.
I blame muppets.
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Is he crab people?
He’s crab people, isn’t he?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV5wmDhzgY8
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by Unabomberman on Feb 8, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
FINALLY someone guessed it!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 8, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, Jesus, it's because he's black, isn't it?
I KNEW I never should’ve let him watch that Soul Train!
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by Paulo Filho's Psychiatrist on Feb 8, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Diaz got faded
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condit just texted nick diaz four words...
dont be scared homie
You must defeat me to stand a chance.
by Gouken on Feb 8, 2012 2:16 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
lol, been thinking this since I heard the rumor that their camp didn’t want it.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
fight has been replaced with greg jackson vs. cesar gracie
winner fights dan hardy
You must defeat me to stand a chance.
by Gouken on Feb 8, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Dan Hardy still the underdog :(
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by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
And after he beats him?
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winner gets cut by ufc, dan hardy gets title shot again
because, you know, lorenzo + DW love a fighter “who comes to fight”
You must defeat me to stand a chance.
I are confuse...
Are talking UFC or Strikeforce?
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*Are we*
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Absolutely LOL!!!!!
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If Nick turns the fight down
I don’t want to hear a SINGLE bit of bitching about 143.
by HeadKickLegSweep on Feb 8, 2012 2:18 PM EST reply actions
Hahahahaha you can’t write this shit
by Afrotikiman on Feb 8, 2012 2:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I don't wish injury on Diaz...
but if it’s an arrow to the knee….DUUUUUUUDE!
by Shake Zula on Feb 8, 2012 2:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
HAHA!!!!!!!!
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Soo over this.
I can’t be the only one who really doesn’t care anymore. The shit storm this lack luster fight has caused is beyond me.
Yah
I saw something on BJPenn.com this morning, it was a couple of tweets from Caesar from yesterday saying that it wasn’t going to happen and the second tweet said “things are being reconsidered”. So I didn’t think the fight was official or that it would even happen.
Minowa is a little guy but he's very good to break a fighters foot and my foot is very special to me.
Diaz has issues?
GTFO….
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by Captain Leroy Hotdog Zanzibar on Feb 8, 2012 2:24 PM EST reply actions
If Ellenberger beats Diego
he deserves a shot.
He hasn’t lost since that CONTROVERSIAL DECISION to Condit a while back.
If all controversial decisions deserve a rematch, I say Ellenberger gets his shot first.
by djfivenine on Feb 8, 2012 2:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This man
Making ALL KINDS of sense. Plus, that would be a sick, sick rematch. I believe I actually scored their fight for Ellenberger.
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This might be too obvious but...
Didn’t Diaz retire? I know it was quite dubious as to whether he meant it deep down, but maybe he just did.
It could well be that he was only willing to fight again for massive money and the UFC aren’t willing to pay him loads to fight Condit.
How fucking nuts would it be if instead o Diaz testing positive is was Condid who did?
The internets would implode around these parts.
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Damn, my brain can’t even handle this possibility
by Afrotikiman on Feb 8, 2012 2:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Impossible, I say.
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I'd cry.
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by T.C. Engel on Feb 8, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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Isn't it obvious guys?
Carlos only accepted the rematch because he heard Nick pissed hot…that dude is the ultimate coward man, first running now this!!!!
by Afrotikiman on Feb 8, 2012 2:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
It's for sure a failed drug test
I don’t know why they give a shit though, honestly. If the man can beat Gomi’s ass while he’s lit he deserves a fuckin medal, not a no contest. Of course rules are rules, I wish he’d get it together because how many times do they have to tell you before you figure out that you’re shooting yourself in the foot. Thats a lot of money (and a lot of weed) coming right out of his pocket.
Strange.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 8, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I fucking knew it, man!
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Someone had better tell Jigga, Rihanna, Kanye West and Beyonce.
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by SentientAndroid on Feb 8, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Either Diaz got badly injured by one of those “weak” strikes Condit landed on him, or he pissed hot.
He’s reportedly not hurt according to frontrowbrian
The options are boiling down to a) hospital fight, b) triathlonned into the middle of the pacific ocean, c) drugs drugs
So crazy that Nick Diaz is the only fighter that willfully handicaps himself, with weed.
And then gets punished for it.
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How do you know it's a handicap?
A lot of jiu-jitsu guys like to roll high, a lot of weight-lifters work out high, for most people who are familiar and comfortable with using the plant it can be beneficial. It can be abused like any other substance, but when used correctly it can heighten your senses and increase your concentration IMO.
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god, fuck this week
this Diaz vs. Condit drama makes me feel like I have rabies.
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If It's what I suspect (Nick having Green Urine)
With his prior drug testing issues (Gomi, Hieron) Nick is looking at a long time in the wilderness.
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Couldn't they just fight in Texas or another country or something?
Nevada can only suspend him from events there, correct?
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 8, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
All states respect the bans of other states.
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How does Margarito continue to fight? Wasn’t he like permabanned after the plaster gloves incident?
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 8, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Nope.
He wasn’t. It was a complicated clusterfuck, but he wasn’t banned.
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Gotcha, thanks. I'm a boxing noob.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 8, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Essentially he and his trainer both got in trouble for it. Then during the hearings, his trainer took full responsibility for the ‘mistake’. They both then got suspended for a year or so.
A true joke that either of them are still involved with boxing imo.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
I remember outrage towards the Texas Commission when the Pacquiao fight was announced, that’s what led to my confusion about how different commissions handle situations.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 8, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Well the Texas commission is basically a joke.
They apparently “forgot” to book a drug testing lab for a Julio Cesar Chavez Jr title fight this week end.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 8, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
I hadn’t heard that yet. What a crook of a commission. There is a reason they have earned their rep.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know anything about boxing
but he should have been banned for life in my opinion.
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by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Also, the Commission could increase the penalty for fighting outside of the jurisdiction while under suspension. I recall Vitor Belfort had some explaining to do before his Affliction fight because he fought in England while under a CSAC suspenion from his Dan Henderson fight. Not sure how he got out of that one, to be honest.
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Not a chance
State SAC’s 99/100 repect each others suspensions (except Edmonton) and the UFC does as well for obvious reasons.
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by MattParker117 on Feb 8, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Jeez all the childish whining by Diaz and Gracie..
…you’d think they would be happy that Carlos accepted a rematch.
Don’t be scared homie.
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@danawhite Nick would rematch in a heartbeat. No extra money needed. He is a true fighter and fights for his team and you fans.
by Pyrgz Krum on Feb 8, 2012 2:43 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
lmao how's he gonna pay off his honda if he doesnt get more money?
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cool
Does that mean hes good to go or “would” but is probably unable.
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
The latter seems more likely.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 2:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Medical suspension?
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Nope.
They said he’s not hurt.
It’s the weed, man. Homie’s got reefer madness.
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It hasn't stopped him the previous 12 fights
Why now?
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Dunno. I'm just going by what I read.
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Between the pre and post fight tests?
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There is a reason they are posting this over Twitter and not via telephone, text, or email. The Diaz camp is up to something.
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by ANance on Feb 8, 2012 2:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
clearly the best one is missing
COO COO CACHA! COO COO CACHA!
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
They are trying to fade chickens.
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by dancingChicken on Feb 9, 2012 5:50 AM EST up reply actions
What’s a “true fighter” anyway? And woulnd’t a “true fighter” know how to cut off his opponent trying to circle away?
Quit baiting people. We’re doing baseless speculation. Today.
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haha
Nick can’t fight because…He’s…an alien.
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Much beyter
Now we’re on to something
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Or maybe he's a squatch.
Oh my god that show is hilarious. Anybody? anybody?
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When you use bacon as a lure, make sure you eat a lot of it.
So the squatch knows you’re not trying to poison him or nuthin’.
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hahaha
I love how they reenact the videos.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 8, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Somethings fucky!
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That show about the Sasquatch Hunters
is fucking stupid. If Sasquatch was real, TRUST me he’d be caught by now.
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by SentientAndroid on Feb 8, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
of course its fucking stupid.
its hilariously stupid. Which is why i tune in once in awhile. There;s no fucking way anyone watches that show and goes “I KNEW IT! I KNEW THERE WERE SQUATCHES!”
do people even say squatch?
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In my group of friends squatching refers to sleeping with hideous women who look like bigfoot.
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I think he’s on a honeymoon with Cyborg Santos now that she’s seperated from the other Cyborg.
by Shnak on Feb 8, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Training for a super fight for ken shamrocks return to the ufc
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Nope.
I don’t even know if that is possible.
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Its not
He was tested before the fight and right after.
I don’t think he smoked weed during the interim.
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You think Nick tested positive for some crazy steroid, or something like that?
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Who knows?
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But Nick is supposedly a health freak ala Jon Fitch.
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I'm sure he is
But who knows what’s really going on?
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It has to be weed. Otherwise, I don't know.
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Ya know
Otherwise, I don’t know.
This is a valid possibility. :P
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I was joking.
I know everything, dude.
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Me too
Just playing along.
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You make me smile.
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positive for elevated estrogen
from eating so many weird vegan soy things
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by mollcutpurse on Feb 8, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Shit.
Condit was fighting someone that was, in essence, a woman?
Wait, I’ll put on my tinfoil hat…
Okay, I’m set… CONDIT WAS FIGHTING SOMEONE THAT WAS, IN ESSENCE, A WOMAN?!
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Is that Snowden?
A writer looking for a new home.
Part of Team Luke Thomas' Beard (LTB)
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 8, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That would be retarded
If he passed the first but not post fight. :-O
by taptomyarmbar on Feb 8, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think
He had some exemption for outside competition testing but not to have it in his piss fight time? Something like that. Or I was high when I thought I read that? ;-)
by taptomyarmbar on Feb 8, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
He has a medical card to smoke in CA I believe. But that does not clear him to have it in his system for his fight drug tests.
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Is marijuana and addictive drug?
I always thought it was widely considered not to be…
No, you're not drunk. I am this good-looking.
sorry, thought you were messing.
No, its not physically addictive. Though some people find it psychologically addictive.
Just like Krispy Kremes.
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Is that really a difference though?
Can you clarify this for me (seriously): are physical and psychological addictions substantially different?
No, you're not drunk. I am this good-looking.
I'm no doctor
But my understanding is that, when something is physically addictive, your body itself chemically craves the substance, to the point where it will become physically ill without it. This is where you see people going through “withdrawal”, a la alcohol, heroin, etc.
Weed is NOT chemically addictive- your body will not crave it after you stop. But, you might enjoy the feeling so much, or it may help you deal with psychological issues so much, that you sincerely “believe” you need it. That would be psychologically addictive
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Physical dependence
causes physical withdrawls and the such (some withdrawls are actually so physically taxing that they can kill you). Psych really is just all in your head like how people can be addicted to video games and things of that sort.
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Interesting
-although it seems like the article is just making a distinction between dependence and withdrawal, which I’m ok with.
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know shit about drugs.
And I’ve never had an addiction to anything in my life other than chocolate milk and chocolate chip cookie dough. Well, Chicken Tikka Masala. And crawfish.
No, you're not drunk. I am this good-looking.
I don't know anything about drugs either.
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I'll never get high.
I’m too goodie-two-shoes for that.
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Ah, you're missing out.
You should at least experience it. If you dont’ like it, don’t do it again- but if you get a chance and don’t try it, you’re missin’ out.
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
It morally bothers me.
There’s a ton of human suffering associated with buying and selling that stuff.
If it were legal, and nobody were getting their heads chopped off I wouldn’t mind giving it a try, but as it stands, just nope. Not for me.
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*chopped off for it*
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Iphone's made by childly hands
As are most of our clothes.
Just sayin’- that’s a weird line for people to draw.
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Depends on where you live at.
I’m not throwing people under the bus if they don’t understand what I’m saying, or do what I do.
The world is a live place, and we miss a bunch of stuff. It happens.
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Paying taxes
contributes to more violence and clandestine community disruption than smoking weed.
by Armleglegarm Head on Feb 8, 2012 4:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
What does this even mean?
Is there some Internet generator where you put in your name and it spews out some buzzword nonsense like this?
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by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Feb 8, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
not my fault if my lexicon confuses you.
by Armleglegarm Head on Feb 8, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, please.
You are not gonna argue with me on this, are you?
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not an argument
look at the number of deaths caused by military interventions, compare it to gang violence.
by Armleglegarm Head on Feb 8, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
What does that have to do with taxes?
Taxes pay for highways, bridges, Medicare, the USPS, park rangers, part of NPR and a whole bunch of other shit that includes the military.
And while we’re comparing apples to meteors, compare the number of deaths from heart disease to those from military interventions and make some statement about that.
Because you’re certainly not shy about stating your opinions, regardless of their coherence.
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by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Feb 9, 2012 3:55 AM EST up reply actions
Good weed is grown in America anyway
So unless you’re smoking Mexican weed, you don’t have to worry about it. :)
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The highs I've gotten from weed
have never matched the blue moods I get the next day. Stuff has never done it for me.
ah, see- there you go.
Affects everyone differently. Sorry about it, that’s a bummer
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
it's ok. i'm learning how to jump out of planes at the moment. all natural highs for me.
i’m like diaz in that respect. he likes his all natural vegan food. i’m into all natural highs that my brain generates without stimulants
Yeah...
Natural highs can naturally squash you into the ground….not exactly a good fit for me.
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Until you die. Then it is just buzzkill.
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I would be.
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haha, there is absolutely no thinking involved
All you can hear is screaming and wind rushing
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
before or after jumping.
because I can believe you…in both accounts.
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lol yeah.. If you ever get a chance to do a solo jump
you’ll realise there can be a lot of thinking involved.
I had so much fun the one freefall, and then navigating through low level clouds with my chute giggling like a school girl – that i forgot to plan a decent landing approach and ended up cratering in a field trying to avoid some old POS prop plane bouncing toward me near the dropzone. newbie’s learn the hard way.
Just too paranoid for that stuff.
The risk may well be minimal, but I see no need for it.
Some of us are born square like that.
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Tell you what- Skydiving beats the hell out of weed.
ANY DAY.
god I love skydiving
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
i’m still working towards my A license. but damn it’s one of the few things, the minute i think about it, I’m in an instant good mood
Awesome man- my buddy just got his A.
I’ve only done Tandems myself, but man. There is literally no feeling like it.
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
@body triangle
I’ll take my green anyday. I’m scared of heights and I cant fall to my death with my B.O.N.G.
I piss hot
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When I was in 20th Group from 91-97 we jumped at Camp Shelby almost every drill, sometimes 5 or 6 times in a day. Then a friend and I started spending basically every cent we had on altitude.
No, you're not drunk. I am this good-looking.
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That’s the life right there.
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Actually...
I should have listed it among my addictions, because I clearly had one. Not even sure how I overcame it.
No, you're not drunk. I am this good-looking.
you see the guy who's doing the record jump from the balloon?
…AWESOME
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
This started with a query about the addictiveness of weed
And has spun into skydiving, the ins and outs of the porn industry, and Indian food. I call this a winning thread.
No, you're not drunk. I am this good-looking.
Damnit now I want indian food… but with crawfish.
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by Patrick Tenney on Feb 8, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
we share all the same addictions.
I’m also somewhat addicted to Sara Jay and Gianna Michaels. Just saying.
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Not at all.
Get Herbert away from here, these are too old for him.
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Caroline Pierce
is my dream woman.
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Wait, brb.
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Oh, I get it.
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lol!
Thick ass woman who views porn as an art form and actually enjoys it.
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by SentientAndroid on Feb 8, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
How weird
She is one of my best friends on earth. I just had to call her to tell her about seeing this.
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2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
:O
Dude!?
DUDE!?
DUDE!?!?!
FUCKING REALLYY!?!?!?!?!
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by SentientAndroid on Feb 9, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
Yes really.
I also sent her the screenshot of this conversation because it’s so surreal to me. I don’t ever really understand she is famous.
For what it’s worth, she thought this was very nice and then apologized for infiltrating me mma site. :p
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by Chris Barton on Feb 9, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
lol
that’s so cool!
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by SentientAndroid on Feb 10, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
wait- holy shit.
HUGE CAROLINE PIERCE FAN HERE!!!
by Body Triangle on Feb 9, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
It kinda did
but I’ll hang in there in my dazed state about it.
It ruins my day when I am looking for porn and run across her stuff. Boner killer for me.
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by Chris Barton on Feb 9, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
boner killer?
Yeah I can understand if that’s a close friend and all.
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by SentientAndroid on Feb 10, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, that's why
it’s not AT ALL an indictment of her attractiveness. I just have no interest seeing my best friends having sex.
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by Chris Barton on Feb 10, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Do you guys follow her on Twitter?
She is usually pretty active and talks to fans a TON on there. The other cool thing is you get to see her personality pretty well.
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by Chris Barton on Feb 9, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Hey man
them digits, give it. Do it.
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Gianna Michaels, now that's a trooper.
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They all are
Shooting porn ain’t peaches and sunshine.
Believe or not, many of the men don’t respect the actresses.
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Yeah, I've read about it.
But, hey, they are providing for a social niche and getting paid. Hopefully at some point they can get their props.
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I can't believe that
They’re nice ladies!
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 3:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Its crazy that you could have a diva attitude after blowing 20 guys and swallowing.
On the other hand, the guys say some really fucked up shit to them while they do it.
Ugly, ugly business.
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Which part?
Because it was all serious.
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
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you want to see the dredges...
Search for chasey lain videos. Not porn, just her behind the scenes. Poor girl is so messed up beyond belief…
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
"While they do it"
I thought that was afterwards. you know, away from the shoot, where the camera won’t catch it.
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Yeah
They do both.
I’ve seen them some and do some pretty terrible stuff. Its not even for the video either. Its just to make them feel like shit.
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That's just downright repugnant, man.
I don’t see why give people jobs just to further mistreat them. It’s fucked up.
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Its a cycle
A lot of the girls are prostitutes who either had a pimp who treated them about the same, maybe a little better.
A porn producer gets in her ear and tells her she doesn’t need him so she leaves the pimp so the producer can really treat her like shit without the fear of some angry pimp shooting him.
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Yep. Power Relations at their worst.
More girls should run their own damn thing. Thanfully, thanks to the internet, that infrastructure is starting to grow, I assume.
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that infrastructure is starting to grow, I assume.
It is. What’s additionally cool is, because they get their own equipment to shoot, more and more of the girls have side productions of more mainstream stuff.
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YUS!
It makes me glad. It really does.
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This is weird to me
as I have a number of friends in the industry. Other than by the guys running the companies, who if that’s who you’re talking about than I know what you’re saying, the male talent is generally not catered to at all. If the girls don’t like a guy or he treats them bad the guy doesn’t get work.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
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Its the producers
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
Other than by the guys running the companies,
That’s the shame of it.
A lot of these guys are sadistic rapists who get to film and sell what they do.
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
That's like finding out some of these woman are managed by
their parents.
At that point you realise..these people are not normal.
Haha I dont know if you'll believe this or not
But a friend of mine has an Uncle that works for elegant angel and he got us in on the industry only day of the AVN Expo in Vegas. We met Gianna and Alexis and a bunch of other elegant angel girls and they were all super nice.
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Why would they be dicks?
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Drumroll?
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That's cool
I meant they guys though,
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Dude I had crawfish this past Friday….AMAZING
by Afrotikiman on Feb 8, 2012 3:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No physical addiction. I think “habit forming” is the preferred term.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 8, 2012 2:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Like anything else
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
Pretty much. If your lifestyle includes getting high everyday, its going to be difficult to stop.
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It can cause paranoia through repeated use though.
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I feel like it definitely help Diaz with his issues. I wouldn’t be surprised if all of the media work he had to do pre-fight just got to him and he needs it to calm himself. Then a positive test.
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Yeah I've had one or two friends that use it as a crutch
nice guys, but weak minded. the minute there’s any stress..out comes the weed
a la a very close family member of mine
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
do they talk with a "weed voice"
i’ve always wondered where that came from
I have friends that are like that.
But I also have buddies that don’t do that, are successful as hell (lawyers), and smoke every day. Its a cultural thing.
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
yeah you're probably right
i always kinda figured my friends that talked like that were affected somehow by being surrounded by other pot heads
thats a big part of it.
But really, who knows. Everyones different, and chemicals affect everyone differently.
by Body Triangle on Feb 8, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
I have said for years
that weed amplifies everything about you, good and bad. If you are lazy, you get lazier, if you are driven and studious, it enhances that. I haven’t smoked in 4 years and won’t again until it is legalized, but weed is so much better for society than alcohol.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 8, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
I've smoked a lot of weed
with a lot of people over the years (not really anymore), and I can’t recall it making any of them driven and studious. Some of them were driven to White Castle and Taco Bell, but they weren’t looking to crack open a book and get their learn on. I’m guessing you have met some that were like that, but unless every single person I’ve smoked weed with in my life is really a lazy bum at heart (and I assure you that’s not the case) then I can’t agree with your hypothesis.
I agree with you about alcohol though. Every member of my immediate family, including myself has been in at least one car wreck involving a drunk driver. I’ve lost friends over the years to drunk drivers. Not to say I haven’t had negative experiences with weed, but nobody has been hurt or killed.
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by Grappo on Feb 8, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think a certain kind of person is attracted to the weed smoking lifestyle, predisposed to just hanging out all day..
You can't really argue with the logic though...
I mean, if you’re just going to sit on your ass and watch TV all day, why not be high?
it shrinks your nuts...
dont need another reason to stay away.
Cocaine is a helluva drug…. (cue the Rick James gifs)
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by Sir Jacob of Ortingham on Feb 8, 2012 2:55 PM EST reply actions
So if a rematch were to happen, and nick Diaz won a very close decision. Would there be a 3rd fight? I bet not, they would give Diaz the title shot and he would be laying on his back for 5 rounds.
by Blow to the back of the head on Feb 8, 2012 3:10 PM EST reply actions
Exactly and if Diaz won this fight then i bet there would be no talks for a rematch
and the Diaz camp would never agree on one either. Thats why i find this highly unfair
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I dont find the reason for a rematch legit
Because then every fighter who says they think they won the fight or otherwise they retire should get a rematch :D I mean you usually wait for a year to get a rematch especially a title fight, no matter its interim or not. I dont find the reasons legit to get a refight for Diaz. He was not the better fighter this time he should take it like a man. Condit should not accept such rematch.
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Ok, let me be honest here.....
At first, I was COMPLETELY against this rematch. I felt that Condit won convincingly and doesn’t need to prove anything to anybody. I feel like he easily won four rounds to one. However…… after giving it more thought I came to this conclusion: IT’S NICK DIAZ VS. CARLOS CONDIT WHICH IS A FUCKING AWESOME FIGHT!!! I would watch that 100 times. So, fuck it! I’m down for this rematch.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 8, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah no kidding what a weird thing to say....
by Brandon Starr on Feb 8, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
nobody wants to watch this fight 100 times...
because it’d be the same outcome as the first fight, every time
You must defeat me to stand a chance.
Serious?
100 out of 100 times it plays out the same?
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 8, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I feel the same way and if I understand right Carlos asked for the rematch.
Nick most likely does’nt realy want it.
I guess it must be highly frustrating for him that many question this fight
just because he fought Nick Diaz and because everyone was expecting him to lose, and even more didnt even give a sh..t about him. If others must wait for the title shot then Diaz should wait too, otherwise everyone should say he will retire ??
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by szanpan on Feb 8, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
from the article on bjpenn.com
UPDATE 12:10 p.m. PT | I was informed just moments after posting this story from sources close to the situation that this fight is not dead in the water after all. Reports in the on-line media will circulate that the fight is off, but in my opinin this is likely just posturing from the Diaz camp to garner better terms. This is not a guarantee, we are in fact still left in the dark, but there remains a small glimor of hope now for those who want to see this rematch. Stay tuned as we develop this story further.
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are fuckin’ amazing
you’re an idiot.
plz stoppp this non sence
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Someone should speak some sence into that guy...whatever that is.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 8, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Good thing Condit won, huh?
These things seem to work themselves out in mysterious ways (Cain beating Brock before his most recent intestinal fit, Anderson choking out Sonnando Testerosa).
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by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Feb 8, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
WEED, PORN, SKYDIVING, CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!
AAAARRRRRRRRRRGHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 8, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
It's basically the cliff notes of the whole thread, actually...
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Let nick go do his boxing thing. As soon as he realizes he cant flip people off with boxing gloves on he will come back to mma.
by Blow to the back of the head on Feb 8, 2012 3:30 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
It's called rec (for recommendation).
Go to actions, and then a sub menu will open where you will have the opportunity to check a yellow star.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 8, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
Just don't rec anything over at Mania.
They will flip shit if you do that.
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Do it
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by Sir Jacob of Ortingham on Feb 8, 2012 3:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
According To Brian the reason will be released publically
Which makes me think that Diaz failed his pre-fight drugs test. If that’s the case GSP/Diaz would not be happening for a least another year/eighteen months had Nick won if at all. Basically if Nick had beat Condit and subsequently have been found to have pissed herb it would have been a huge problem.
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Does anyone know if Nick has a prescription for weed, for his anxiety, why he wouldn’t be able to get it cleared with the commission?
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 8, 2012 4:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I guess maybe because its more fun to get it without a prescription and!
in more limitless amounts LOL
but tell me is it SURE now or its just a hypothesis yet?
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Knowing how easy it is to get a prescription for weed in Cali I imagine Nick has to have a card. And, I’ve heard nothing for certain that weed is the issue. I’m just curious if his weed use, like Hendo’s TRT, can be cleared with the commission.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 8, 2012 4:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
whatever it is...
if its drug related, its not good for WW div, it would end the carlos/gsp/diaz saga, but open doors for other WW’s.
From the NSAC website
Unarmed combatants may have a therapeutic use for certain substances that may be found on WADA’s list of prohibited substances. If an unarmed combatant believes he or she has a therapeutic use for such a substance, he or she must apply for a therapeutic use exemption. It is the responsibility of any licensed contestant, or contestant who may be seeking a license in Nevada, to apply for a therapeutic use exemption before a hearing of the Nevada Athletic Commission, before the contestant can use such substances. Failure to obtain a therapeutic use exemption for a prohibited substance that is detected after the fact will be considered a violation of NRS Chapter 467, which may be grounds for a disciplinary complaint if a contestant is already licensed, or denial of a license.
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by MattParker117 on Feb 8, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting. You would have to think he would apply everywhere for a TUE he could.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 8, 2012 4:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is Nick Diaz
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by MattParker117 on Feb 8, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
But, he’s like got this guy that he had to pay I don’t know like a hundred grand to take care of shit for him. I mean how is he supposed to know what a TUE is, he didnt go to school for that shit.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 8, 2012 4:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Nick didn't go to school for that though.
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You have to realize that this also doesn’t say that getting a exemption for weed is possible at all. It simply states that ‘some’ prohibited substances might be allowed. Ie, TRT usage.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
This is very true
They frown heavily on weed b-/c it’s still classified as a schedule 1 drug. That classification has been the same since “Reefer Madness” was made and b.s. imo
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by Harley hooper on Feb 8, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
As far as I know, no commission allows prescriptions for weed usage.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 8, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
His History with the NSAC/CSAC for one
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by MattParker117 on Feb 8, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
One of many, different people medicate for anxiety different ways. Drugs like Klonopin are effective but addictive.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 8, 2012 4:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No, not "standard"
There are a ton of legit medications that treat anxiety. My family (myself included) all suffer from it to varying degrees so I’ve been around the block when talking anxiety and prescriptions
If his weed use was strictly for axiety and thats what caused him to get caught/suspended, then that is absolutely dumb on his part. He could treat his issues with a legitimate prescription that wouldn’t have any issues with the drug tests
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I don't care if this fight happens or not.
I just don’t want to see Condit sit on the shelf for a shot at GSP. Condit vs. Sanchez/Ellenberger in a five round fight? Yes please!!
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Looks like Nick tested positive
That is my understanding. RT @iambrigham: @FrontRowBrian was it the weed again?
Given his record he’s out for at least a year
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It seems odd to me that this would be a drug-related suspension, don’t they normally come out 10 days after the event? What would make sense is a medical suspension given the cuts on Diaz’s face. I thought one of those leg kicks might’ve broke his nose. None of the medical suspensions have been released yet, that’s what my money would be on.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 8, 2012 5:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Came out Yesterday and Diaz wasn't on the list
Carlos Condit: Suspended until March 6; no contact until Feb. 26 for right cheek laceration
Fabricio Werdum: Must have right quadriceps contusion cleared by doctor or no contest until Aug. 3; minimum suspension, no contest until March 6; no contact until Feb. 26
Roy Nelson: Suspended and no contact until April 5 for forehead laceration
Mike Pierce: Suspended until March 6; no contact until Feb. 26 for right eye laceration
Scott Jorgensen: Suspended until March 6; no contact until Feb. 26
Clifford Starks: Must have fourth digit on left hand x-rayed and cleared by an orthopedic doctor or no contest until Aug. 3
Ed Herman: Must have both hands x-rayed and cleared by an orthopedic doctor or no contest until Aug. 3; minimum suspension, no contest until March 6; no contact until Feb. 26
Max Holloway: Suspended until Feb. 26; no contact until Feb. 19 for right eye contusion
Alex Caceres: Suspended until March 6; no contact until Feb. 26
Edwin Figueroa: Must have right groin injury cleared by a doctor or no contest until Aug. 3; minimum suspension, no contest until March 6; no contact until Feb. 26
Chris Cope: Suspended until April 5; no contact until March 21
Matt Riddle: Must have broken right index finger cleared by an orthopedic doctor or no contest until Aug. 3; minimum suspension, no contest until March 21; no contact until March 6 for left eye laceration
Henry Martinez: Must have right foot x-rayed and be cleared by an orthopedic doctor or no contest until Aug. 3; minimum suspension, no contest until March 21; no contact until March 6 for left nasal laceration.
Michael Kuiper: Must have left foot x-rayed and cleared by orthopedic doctor or no contest until Aug. 3; minimum suspension, no contest until March 6; no contact until Feb. 26
Daniel Stittgen: Suspended until March 21; no contact until March 6
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC-143-Medical-Suspensions-7-Fighters-Face-6-Month-Layoffs-40037
It’s pretty much THC related at this point.
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by MattParker117 on Feb 8, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
Ahh, thanks. Didn’t see that.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 8, 2012 5:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
but it’s only a laceration, so diaz can’t use that to claim victory according to the stockton code of conduct, subsection kj noons.
by Phildo on Feb 8, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
i think the tests for drugs of abuse and steroids are different tests and come back in different amounts of time.
and while i may be making that up, diaz and his camp could know that he smoked and have told dana before signing a contract to fight, because signing when you know you are going to be suspended is pretty shitty.
I think it’s common knowledge Diaz smokes weed, to Dana and everyone. It’s practically legal in Cali.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 8, 2012 5:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's true
When you can go to the store to pick it up, and when you get daily emails from your store telling you what strains they have, and when you drive by lots of different stores with huge signs advertising it, it doesn’t feel illegal at all.
Ned Stark's Bastards, yo
What you just described sir
sounds alot like what I imagine heaven to be like.
and on really romantic evenings of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion.
by Johnathan Willis on Feb 8, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
No body gives a shit here anymore
some stores have their own facebook pages and all they use it for is to advertise what strains they have in stock.
At one point there was at least a shop within a mile of each other.
Adding to the heavenly vibe
Most of the dispensaries hire really hot girls as clerks.
Ned Stark's Bastards, yo
it’s legality and dana’s knowledge are completely irrelevant. There are plenty of legal banned drugs. I assume Diaz has been doing something in order to have any issues in his 6 previous fights, he knows if he did that this time.
Diaz has openly said he worked to figure out how to get around the test in the past and had it licked. Who knows what happened this time. Maybe they used a different type of THC test. Maybe his weight cut had something to do with it. I’m sure we will find out the details. But, if you are signing Nick to a fight you know you are signing a pot smoker.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Feb 8, 2012 8:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
"It seems odd to me that this would be a drug-related suspension"
This is Diaz we are talking about. They probably took his piss right before he walked out to fight and expedited his results.
by Ricardo Arguello on Feb 8, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
calm down, he was popped once 5 years ago, for weed. It’s not like he’s Chris Leben or something
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Yeah, Its not like he openly admits to smoking weed on the reg or anything like that.
by Ricardo Arguello on Feb 8, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Out of competition random testing is not covered by NSAC
Getting caught and regulating it before a fight/testing are vastly different things…
I quote the great John Dodson “if you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’!”
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The NSAC does out of competition testing
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by MattParker117 on Feb 9, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
Apparently "out-of competition" means only during training camps:
Out-of-competition testing provides the commission a strong tool to catch athletes who are abusing banned substances during training camps. Typically, fighters are tested the week of competition.
What is covered? Note 2f covers steroids & drug of abuse
1. The administration of or use of any:
(a) Alcohol;
(b) Stimulant; or
(c.) Drug or injection that has not been approved by the Commission, including, but not limited to, the drugs or injections listed in subsection 2, in any part of the body, either before or during a contest or exhibition, to or by any unarmed combatant, is prohibited.
2. The following types of drugs, injections or stimulants are prohibited pursuant to subsection 1:
(a) Afrinol or any other product that is pharmaceutically similar to Afrinol.
(b) Co-Tylenol or any other product that is pharmaceutically similar to Co-Tylenol.
(c.) A product containing an antihistamine and a decongestant.
(d) A decongestant other than a decongestant listed in subsection 4.
(e) Any over-the-counter drug for colds, coughs or sinuses other than those drugs listed in subsection 4. This paragraph includes, but is not limited to, Ephedrine, Phenylpropanolamine, and Mahuang and derivatives of Mahuang.
(f) Any drug identified on the most current edition of the Prohibited List published by the World Anti-Doping Agency, which is hereby adopted by reference. The most current edition of the Prohibited List may be obtained, free of charge, at the Internet address http://www.wada-ama.org
WADA does cover Cannabinoids here, but it’s interesting that “out of competition” refers only to a fighter having signed a contract for an upcoming fight…that leaves a lot of wiggle room. Thanks MattParker117, if you hadn’t mentioned that I wouldn’t have bothered looking into it.
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No matter what happens, they need to have Condit main event Fox 3.
It’d go a long way towards building up GSP’s next contender.
As far as Diaz fighting the loser goes, I’m skeptical that he’d have any interest in avenging his loss to Diego.
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But it would be an awesome five round fight
by discoandherpes on Feb 8, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, I just don't think Diaz would take it.
And Diego/the Kampmann/Alves loser could fill the role of a fun free B-show main event.
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Give Diaz Hendricks, Hes calling him out and is coming off a huge win over the perennial #2 WW in the world.
But i doubt he’d be too keen on that fight since its a stylistic nightmare.
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