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Bad Boy Presents Bloody Elbow Radio - Episode 133: UFC 143 Aftermath, MMA Discussion

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Bloody Elbow Radio, presented by Bad Boy, will be LIVE! at 4 p.m. ET/1 p.m. PT for another edition of the show. Join hosts Matt Bishop and MMA Mania's Brian Hemminger as they discuss all the latest in mixed martial arts, including all the latest aftermath from last weekend's UFC 143, including what has turned into a very controversial decision in the main event between Carlos Condit and Nick Diaz. We'll talk about all the squabbling that's occurred since Saturday, both from fighters involved and not involved in the fight.

We'll also discuss all the latest news in MMA.

We'll chat with Bloody Elbow's own Matthew Roth, who was on the scene Saturday for the show. We'll talk with him about his first experience covering a UFC event, the atmosphere in Las Vegas and much more.

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SBN coverage of UFC 143: Diaz vs. Condit

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by Matt Bishop on Feb 7, 2012 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

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by Matt Bishop on Feb 7, 2012 4:01 PM EST reply actions  

Totally perplexed by the “controversy” surrounding the 143 main event.

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

The first word that comes to mind when I hear “MMA fan” is “fickle.” No surprises here.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

People came in with preconceived notion that this would be some balls-to-the-wall rock’em sock’em brawl bro-fest. Instead they got an MMA fight.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

“Boring” Brian Hemminger

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

When are the Browns ever in the Super Bowl…?

And Michigan State hasn’t been relevant since Mateen Cleaves.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

LOL at "Browns" and "Super Bowl" in the same sentence.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

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by Matt Bishop on Feb 7, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

…how many have they won?

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Dawg, your only good player ever has been Kevin Pittsnogle.

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by Matt Bishop on Feb 7, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Or, you know, Devin Ebanks. Or Kevin Jones. Then again, I’m not under the delusion that we do anything relevant other than be a consistent entry into the NCAA tournament.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_C77d7KBHk

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

Condit only landed 2 more total strikes than Diaz in the first and 6 more significant strikes. Diaz landed 16-7 head shots in the first and 11-7 to the body. But Condit’s 16-1 leg kicks is stunning.

That said, I still scored round one for Diaz.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

Cecil Peoples wants that last statistic stricken from the record as it is not in any way relevant to a fight.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

There seems to be two camps of thought in the fallout of the event: The “robbery of the century Condit ran like Starnes” camp, and the “you’re an idiot for implying that this was the robbery of the century and that Condit ran the whole fight” camp. I’m just wondering how Carlos Condit will match-up with GSP.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

This fight wasn’t the most exciting thing I’ve ever seen. But it was backed by the drama that Nick Diaz and Condit built on UFC Primetime and it was stunning to see a gameplan work so well, not unlike Sonnen-Silva I. Sonnen vs. Silva was not exciting to watch in terms of the actual fight, but the gameplan was really stunning to see. That is how I liken it anyway.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah that’s pretty much exactly how I feel.

It makes me a little ill seeing Condit get emotional having the belt put around his waste, and then getting boo’d. Give the guy a break, he did nothing wrong.

by UncleMax on Feb 7, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

But to argue your point, because Diaz acts like leg kicks are irrelevant and he is impervious to them, does that make them seem less relevant? Is Diaz’s pandering to the lack of pain those legkicks cause him working in his favor?

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

well, some people can take shots better than others

It doesn’t make those shots insignificant.

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by Brian Hemminger on Feb 7, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t argue that, but does it lessen the significance of the strikes in some judges’ and fans’ eyes? I definitely think it could.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on how the particular judges view damage. We’ve seen it go either way. See: Diego Sanchez vs Martin Kampmann.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

If Nick Diaz thinks leg kicks are irrelevant, he wouldn’t have taken Cyborg to the ground.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

didn't Cyborg take him down and then get submitted?

That’s how I remember

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by Brian Hemminger on Feb 7, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

True. Diaz did engage the clinch though once he had clearly had enough of Cyborg’s leg kicks.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

If he's taking leg kicks from Thiago Alves, he wouldn't be calling them baby leg kicks.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's what Greg Jackson had to say

http://cagejunkies.com/2012/02/greg-jackson-defends-carlos-condits-ufc-143-strategy/

On what happened in the octagon:

"That was the game plan," said Jackson. "When you are fighting a guy like Nick who is so amazing and he does things so well, the last thing you want to do is sit kind of flat footed and get in a face punching contest with him."

On others who have employed a similar strategy:


"And so ‘m sorry there’s flack going around the Internet, but If you don’t appreciate the way Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard or some of these great guys that do their sticking and moving, I don’t know what to tell you."

On the plan itself:

"I’m no rocket scientist, but hitting a lot and not getting hit … sounds like a good idea."

On dictating the pace:

"At that crucial time, at that pivotal third round, when Nick started to slow down, Carlos started to speed up. So sometimes you can go and use, you can stay away from someone’s strengths. Certainly we did that …" Jackson said. "In addition to that, you can go after someone’s strengths. Nick’s strength is pace, and so we wanted to slow down that pace a lot, and let Carlos dictate that."

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

Carlos WILL get taken down by GSP. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when and how many times.

So if I were Condit, I’d come out going for the kill every time I am on the feet.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

“Carlos WILL get taken down by GSP. It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when and how many times can he get back to his feet?”

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

haha. Yes.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much. I think GSP could submit him late if Condit gasses.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

He definitely appeared to have a DEEP gas tank Sat., but then again he wasn’t being smothered by top control for five rounds.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if he doesn’t gas, I have a hard time seeing him beating GSP. Cause he’s not going to win on points. He’ll basically have to finish. And nothing he showed last Saturday lends me to believe he can even challenge GSP seriously.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Condit should fight again before November. Not necessarily Nick, but someone.

Otherwise, what is the point of an interim belt? Isn’t the point of such a belt to keep the division moving while the champ is out? If he’s going to sit out until he gets GSP, Dana might as well issue another interim-interim belt. Because none of it matters then. But I understand why Condit might want to sit out.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 4:27 PM EST reply actions  

Greg Jackson

I normally have a lot of time for Greg Jackson, but he didn’t come off well on yesterday’s MMA Hour. He sounded like someone who talks out of both sides of their moth. Sorry, Greg.

And Ariel Herwani is a stirrer.

by BlackHat on Feb 7, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

CABBAGE! CABBAGE! CABBAGE!

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Cesar Gracie

And he came off equally as bad. He can’t make up his mind who to blame. He says Diaz won the fight, but then he’s angry at Conduit for ‘cheating’ Diaz out of the fight. I don’t know how good he is at cornering, but he’s a whiny beach.

by BlackHat on Feb 7, 2012 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

Wow. Guess Canada didn’t want their boy to get that fight he wanted, eh? That poll map just looks silly.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Boost mobile, yall!

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

I think the media are missing the point when criticising the MMA community’s reaction to the Diaz v Conduit fight. I think the anger being felt shows that Diaz may be a bigger star and fan favourite than people realise.

by BlackHat on Feb 7, 2012 4:39 PM EST reply actions  

Reposting for relevance.

This fight wasn’t the most exciting thing I’ve ever seen. But it was backed by the drama that Nick Diaz and Condit built on UFC Primetime and it was stunning to see a gameplan work so well, not unlike Sonnen-Silva I. Sonnen vs. Silva was not exciting to watch in terms of the actual fight, but the gameplan was really stunning to see. That is how I liken it anyway.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

It didn’t have a lot of “oh shit!” moments, but it still made me “wow” at the end, which to me is more important.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Not all fight fans are sports fans. This will always be an inherently divisive aspect of the fan-base of mixed martial arts.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

Diaz has no footwork and it showed in that fight.

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

Diaz v Conduit = Machida v Rampage

by BlackHat on Feb 7, 2012 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

your continued mispelling of Condit's name is annoying

We got it already

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by DankNabbot on Feb 7, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The Gracie family started the UFC to showcase jiu jitsu....

Maybe Team Diaz needs to come up with Phonebooth Fighting Championships to highlight their personal skills.

Holy jesus, the fallout from this fight is absolutely off the wall….!!

I can’t wait till we’ve all moved on, it’s not even fun to debate anymore…

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

The lack of civility about all this really disgusts me.

I had it 48-47 Diaz, but I could understand why you had Condit or a draw or whatever.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen...

and so many people are only looking at a single aspect of the overall picture, and hanging onto it for dear life, refusing to think about other angles or possibilities.

Conversing over the internet about Condit/Diaz has become totally asinine.

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

MMA is probably my No 3 sport behind soccer and Formula 1.

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

At least you didn’t say NASCAR :)

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you ask Roth why he feels people are so uncivil about the Condit-Diaz decision? If he needs me to reference something, look at the influx of people on here.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

Also…I must ask. How do you feel about Johnny Ace being retained?! Good or great?

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Matt Bishop on Feb 7, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I am Johnny Ace’s number one mark.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You know you love it a lot.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

At least it shows people really cared about the fight.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

The term ‘retarded’ is quite offensive in Europe. Perhaps not so, elsewhere.

by BlackHat on Feb 7, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It's offensive in the United States as well

but people saying Carlos Condit’s game plan ruined the sport is retarded.

by Matthew Roth on Feb 7, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

It used to be in the US but it became too impractical to correct people so it’s generally accepted in the “small-time public” (i.e. not in the media/public forum).

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

UK

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

I used to play minor hockey (I’m Canadian. It’s basically a law here), but once I got into MMA, I stopped watching all other sports, even hockey. I still like playing sports in my spare time, but I do not enjoy watching sports anymore. I lost interest.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

mma

ruined you for other sports!

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by rohedron on Feb 7, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It really did.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

1) I rented the early UFC tapes, then lost interest for years. Then I got back into it when I saw Hughes / Trigg II. When Hughes slammed Trigg, I lost my mind.
2) I got obsessed. Next thing I know, I’m watching every pride and UFC fight, and six months later, I realized I didn’t care about other sports.
3) Every fight is like a playoff eliminator. Other sports just don’t match MMA in terms of excitement for me.
4) MMA to me is the purest sport. No special shoes, no special sticks: just a couple guys in a cage. It’s great.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I had never found a sport I was truly passionate about until I discovered MMA. I always followed sports, but it was more to be socially versatile than due to any authentic interest. Other athletic contests just don’t feel like they’re on the same level as two highly-skilled men engaged in combat in a fenced cage with nearly limitless possible outcomes.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

*should’ve said “athletes” instead of “men.”

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I always followed sports, but it was more to be socially versatile than due to any authentic interest.

The social aspect is big. I mean, even though I don’t watch any other sports anymore, I’m still sports-minded, in that I can just sit down and watch a game with someone and not be a fish out of water. I know all the rules still, I can still go to a pickup game of basketball and do fine. Like you, it’s about passion. I’m just not passionate.

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by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m just not passionate about anything other than MMA, I mean to say.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s huge. I think my childhood would’ve been much different if I had been adverse to sports. I remember it was always fun to play, just not much fun to watch. My Dad’s passion for the 49ers really made me want to try to get into it though. It was always fun to watch with him since he would yell at the TV and all that.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

My dad and I watched the Oilers run during their dynasty.

One of my favorite sports memories with my dad. That’s why I got into hockey.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Setanta Sports had the UFC over hear and I susbcribed when they got the rights to English Premier League. I was channel surfing and found UFC 80 on Setanta Sports 1 there was nothing good on that night so I watched the card and was hooked.

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

The ol’ “faucet forehead” fight eh?

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not a diehard sports fan like I used to be when I was a lot younger. But I still give things a chance and watch whatever whenever. I mostly follow college basketball and football (college or pro) now, along with pro wrestling. I used to be obsessed with all sports, but I guess I grew out of it.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

Welcome back to Planet Earth!

and the broadcast

I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyrone Woodly fight.

by DankNabbot on Feb 7, 2012 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

I'm confused

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by Brian Hemminger on Feb 7, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

He's saying

you need more testosterone.

Maybe we need to get you a Bellator tape or something to regain your enthusiasm.

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by Ben Thapa on Feb 7, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

For me, I feel more of a connection to MMA because I grew up with the sport. I literally came in with Brock Lesnar and watched it grow as I matured. Also, I feel more like a fighter because it is accessible to the normal guy. You can go down and train in the sport in almost any town.

For other sports, you can’t really train with Mike Piazza and learn to be a great catcher and get passing lessons from Tom Brady. Youth sports traumatized me because I realized that I was never going to be one of those athletes. I couldn’t relate to the athletes.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

Hopefully MMA will never lose it's accessability...

that’s a big part of what makes it great, imo.

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I have stayed up to 5-6am to watch UFC fights. Although I will skip fights if I’m going to Old Trafford the following day. I do have large collection of UFC & Pride DVD’s although that’s mainly due to a desire to learn more about the history of the sport.

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

*Season Ticket holder & big Man United Fan.
*I will watch the fights on Tape delay the following evening.

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

It sucks for a lot of international fans that the UFC operates almost exclusively around US ET/PT. I sympathize.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve spent many a Sunday in tired haze.

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I used to watch the entirety of DREAM, SENGOKU, and K-1 fights on HdNet. I would even adjust my sleep schedule so I could make sure to see it all live. What a great channel.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, on pro wrestling. As a kid, it was the closest thing you could watch to real violence when you were younger that your parents would allow. Also, it captivated you with the cartoonish storylines and characters. As I grew up, it became more and more fake and stale. It lead me into boxing and MMA.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

Lol I remember seeing the first UFC in 1993 when I was little and I thought “these guys would get killed by WWF wrestlers.”

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

MMA is fascinating on so many levels, and there something there for almost anyone (strategy, skill, will, composure). Football will always be no1—Arsenal!—but MMA is a great number 2.

Sadly, it’s still very niche here in Europe.

by BlackHat on Feb 7, 2012 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

8-2

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

You should have beaten that line-up 18-2. Shame on you.

by BlackHat on Feb 7, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Since I've found MMA, other sports seem to pale in comparison....

It didn’t happen over night, but I get more and more into MMA, and care less and less about keeping up with specific teams and seasons.

I’ve always played and enjoyed basketball, but the NBA has been plauged with internal issues and inconsistancies. I just don’t care much about it now.

Baseball, fuck baseball.

NFL, still pretty awesome, and there’s no MMA on Sundays usually.

NHL, don’t follow a team or the season, but will always watch playoff hockey, regardless of who’s playing.

Golf….. uh, the driving range is always a good time.

MMA has become my muse.

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

I religously watched UFC Unleashed when it was regularly on ESPN Thursday Nights, same when TUF was on classic. The first time I saw Griffin/Bonnar was New Years 09.

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

Gotta agree with the social comments made above...

playing sports was just that, playing. That’s how you interacted with other kids and had a good time. Imagine kids like those Ruffo brothers who come up ‘playing’ MMA, instead of little league. That’s the future, and that seems pretty exciting.

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

Also, a lot of MMA were not necessarily social butterflies and caught on to the sport because it was the closest thing you could get to kung fu movies and it was an underground thing. I love that MMA fans are a pack of nerds really, but it is such an awesome collective.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

The key is to be both a jock and a nerd. It makes you popular, but keeps you humble.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Bravo BE radio....

this conversation has been 100x better than rehashing the same tired storylines from Condit/Diaz that we’ve all already heard over the last 72 hours.

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 5:15 PM EST reply actions  

Hahahaha, good thing you got here late

Because that was the first part of the show.

But really glad you enjoyed it!

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by Matt Bishop on Feb 7, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice, we'll pretend it was intentional!

As for Condit/Diaz, oh my lord, I’ve probably typed out and deleted 50 posts/comments over the last couple days, on multiple websites, then I would just shaking and looking for sharp objects….

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Or Melvin Guillard?

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 5:15 PM EST reply actions  

Jackson on Jackson violence?

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Forgot. Damnit.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah...

Guillard is a Blackzilian now. Still, seems too soon.

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Was just gonna say this.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Beat me to it.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

What about Melvin Guillard? Too soon?

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 5:15 PM EST reply actions  

Sherk vs Maynard. Let’s see what the Muscle Shark’s got left.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 5:16 PM EST reply actions  

Evan Dunham for Cowboy

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 5:16 PM EST reply actions  

Donald Cerrone-Nik Lentz! Book it!

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

Barboza vs Cerrone.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

Mac Danzig?

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

Nevermind. He is Efrain’s next opponent.

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

fighting Escudero in Atlanta

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Tough, tough fight for Escudero

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Where is Forest? Is he the new Bellator correspondent?

by BlackHat on Feb 7, 2012 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

Forrest is only with us on a part time basis now.

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by Matt Bishop on Feb 7, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Donald Cerrone vs. Paul Sass!

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

Donald Cerrone vs. Jacob Volkmann!

We are Ruining Your Special Night, motherfuckers!

by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

I like the way you think, sir.

by BlackHat on Feb 7, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

People flip around their TVs like zombies. They see “UFC” in the program guide and just assume it’s not on another channel.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

This makes me sad.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Even crazier to me...

is when someone tweets a member of the media where/when they can find the fights, but can’t figure out Google holds all the answers they desire.

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s amazing that so many people still don’t know how to use Google in 2012. People need to understand that internet=information, not just Facebook, Twitter and TMZ.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Can either of you watch the Fuel show?

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

Thiago Silva vs whatever animal he got the urine from!

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 5:24 PM EST reply actions  

LOL. Oh god. I hate living in Northern Virginia. My main event will be Thiago Silva vs. Igor Pokrajac?

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by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 5:24 PM EST reply actions  

I heard they wanted to feature Christine Santos on the card, but then realised ‘Cyborg on Fuel’ may not work. (Bmmm… Tsh…._

by BlackHat on Feb 7, 2012 5:25 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

LOL

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by Matt Bishop on Feb 7, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Spur of the moment. Appreciate it. That’s my joke quota for the year out of the way.

by BlackHat on Feb 7, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

haha!

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Brian has it for Kim Winslow, Bishop. Come on.

We are Ruining Your Special Night, motherfuckers!

by mountaineers101 on Feb 7, 2012 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

Nah. I bet she can beat him up.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

When I see Winslow ref, I know at the very least there won’t be a premature stoppage.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 7, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Won’t be a premature anything…. (tasteless, I know)

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

burnzo.

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

15-0

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

Brian is not into Kim cause he's afraid she'll call him on an early stoppage.

"You've got Floyd Mayweather making $25 million. He can't stop a double-leg..." Nick Diaz.

by pud333 on Feb 7, 2012 5:29 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

that was good

deserves werd!

'If you don't have humility as a fighter, fighting will bring humility to you...'

by rohedron on Feb 7, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Winslow has a Nevada Licence and Big John doesn’t?

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

Oh god....

end the show!!

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks guys, had fun today.

Cheers, all.

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by SteveevaD on Feb 7, 2012 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

That was fun, now back to Fifa 12.

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by MattParker117 on Feb 7, 2012 5:33 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks everybody for listening!

We appreciate it!

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by Matt Bishop on Feb 7, 2012 5:33 PM EST reply actions  

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