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Eight Sides to Every Story: Nick Diaz v Carlos Condit

“There are eight sides to every story.” Featured prominently in the promotion for Jon Jones versus Vladimir Matyushenko, the admittedly cheesy line emphasizes the narratives inherent in every fight. In the lead-up for Diaz versus Condit, the narrative foretold an epic war between two men who were more than mixed martial artists. They were fighters - a dying breed who lived and died by the sword.

The fight told a different story. For 25 minutes, Carlos Condit landed punches and kicks as he circled and circled around the octagon, away from Nick Diaz’s soul-crushing combos against the fence. Condit refused to get suckered into a wild brawl in the pocket that spelled utter annihilation for BJ Penn, Paul Daley, and other great strikers before him. Instead, he circled away from Diaz’s most frightening weapon, ignored the taunts that lured his teammate Donald Cerrone into a doomed firefight with Diaz’s younger brother Nate, and followed his gameplan to a T.

On the other side, for 25 minutes, while Condit was landing his punches and kicks and was circling and circling around the octagon, Nick Diaz kept walking his opponent down, hoping to land his soul-crushing combos against the fence. Diaz refused to change his desire to turn the fight into a wild brawl in the pocket that spelled utter annihilation for BJ Penn, Paul Daley, and other great strikers from his past. Instead, he trudged forward. He was suckered into a losing game of cat and mouse where his most frightening weapon was useless and the taunts that lured so many fighters into a Diaz-style beating fell on deaf ears. Diaz failed to adapt. Or so the story goes.

"If Nick is angry about the way his opponent fought, then his failure to adapt will be his downfall, and he will have nobody to blame but himself. I suspect the blame will never fall on his shoulders, in his mind. He'll never ask himself why he couldn't have thrown more kicks, or attempted more takedowns. It'll just be his own insular chorus of what Condit didn't let him do inside that lampshade of his."

Taken from David Castillo’s “Nick Diaz and His Rage Irrespective of the Machine,” Castillo told the prevalent narrative: Condit won using a superior gameplan. Diaz lost because he refused to adapt and change his methods. There’s a common axiom that history is written by the victors. Naturally, following Condit surprising win, narratives have emerged praising what Condit did right and what Diaz did wrong. But what if Diaz thought he was winning? Why would he change his approach if he thought it was successful?

For 15 minutes, Nick Diaz stalked Condit, pressing forward, leaving Condit with two options – fall at the hands of Diaz’s soul-crushing combos or retreat. Choosing the latter, Condit landed punches and kicks as he circled away. But Diaz waded through Condit’s ineffectual punches and his baby leg kicks and responded with head-snapping strikes. Condit refused to partake in a wild brawl in the pocket that spelled utter annihilation for BJ Penn, Paul Daley, and other great strikers before him. Instead, he avoided Diaz’s most frightening weapon at all costs and was afraid to capitalize when Diaz through his hands out and taunted Condit for his “baby leg kicks” and his impotent “spinning shit.” But in round 4 the tides changed. Condit landed more and more. Unable to replicate his earlier success with his head-snapping strikes, Diaz tried to wrestle the fight to the ground on two separate occasions, but Condit easily defended and won the round. Diaz returned to his corner where his brother Nate reassured him, “you’re up 3 to 1,” but Diaz could see he was losing the striking battle and dragged the fight to the ground. Diaz quickly worked and secured back mount and the 5th and final round ended with Diaz in the most threatening position of the entire fight.

“There are eight sides to every story,” but when the dust cleared Carlos Condit was declared victorious and one story emerged above all others. However, as seen from Dallas Winston’s research post, one fight can have many different interpretations. And the fighters themselves have their own interpretations. Diaz, like many viewers, thought he won the first 2 or 3 rounds because he landed the harder strikes and pressed forward and the 5th because he adapted to Condit’s increasing striking output with a ground attack. And if Diaz won the decision, perhaps we would be hearing different stories popularize about Diaz as a smart fighter who secured victory by taking the fight to the ground when he started clearly losing the striking battle or Condit as the fighter who should have turned up his aggression. Regardless of the outcome, alternative narratives are obscured and a dominant narrative is validated as “truth,” but in thinking about fights we should be conscious of each side of a story and remember that there are truths beyond what is written by victors.

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Awesome.

Although I had Condit winning the fight, I have no problem with anyone who scored it 48-48 or 48-47 Diaz; had the judges gone with one of those interpretations instead of what they did, you’re absolutely right, it would have totally changed the post-fight process of mythologizing.

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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 6, 2012 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

Good piece Sunny. This fight is leaving my head spinning. Aside from my( and many others) predictions, I feel like i’ve been right and wrong on all of the issues of this fight. Live I thought Diaz had 1-3 and maybe 5 since he closed it kinda strong. Diaz’s psych warefare of staredowns at the end of the first several rounds was almost enough edge out the round in my heightened state anxiety. Watching the 2nd time I had Condit winning 1,4,5 with 3 being a draw. 3rd time watching I have diaz 1-2 and carlos 4,5 and 3 stilll a draw.
Sooo, all things considered a re match isn’t a bad idea. I think Condit is more capable of making the adjustments neccessary to score better so I’d give him an edge but clearly it will also go the distance.

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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 7, 2012 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

I actually think rematches favor the loser.

They have a more clear and concrete idea of what they did wrong etc. and can adjust as needed. But who knows if Diaz will adjust in the event of a rematch because, as I stated in the post, he thought he won and that’s been validated from fighter reactions, his camp, fan reactions et al, so why would he change his methods?

And then there’s the whole Ellenberger thing, where if he beats Sanchez the UFC could set up a really compelling Condit/Ellenberger rematch.

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by sun yue on Feb 7, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Very good post. Well written. It was a close fight, it could have gone either way.

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by TheLastEmpress on Feb 7, 2012 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

Good post and logical analysis

But I’m not sure getting your guy to the ground in the last minute of the last round which you’re losing, having failed to do so twice before in the fight would ever be thought of as successful application of ‘secured victory by taking the fight to the ground when he started clearly losing the striking battle’, even if he threatened to some extent for a submission, although I don’t believe condit has admitted being close to being finished at that point

Nah man, that wasn't a slap, that was a hand trap, some deep level striking ya hear?

by UK MMA MAN on Feb 11, 2012 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

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