UFC 143: Fabricio Werdum Complains Roy Nelson's Face Hurt His Leg
by Nate Wilcox on Feb 6, 2012 4:30 PM EST
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Heavyweight Fabricio Werdum spent three rounds beating on Roy Nelson in UFC 143's Fight of the Night but it didn't come easy. Werdum told Brazilian news site Sporto TV Globo that his repeated knees to Nelson's face actually caused him considerable pain:
It's unbelievable. My leg is hurting, I can't even walk right because of the knees I threw. It was four or five in the same place. It opened up a cut and it broke his nose. It's impressive how he can endure punishment. The guy is a warrior, 35 years old and he can really take it. He showed this physically, even though it doesn't show.
Despite Werdum's pained leg, Nelson clearly came out on the worse end of the deal as this photo of his split open forehead shows.
Werdum also talked about his hopes for future opponents:
I never chose an opponent. I fight whoever they send me. But Frank Mir would be good. He said the other day that he thought my ground was good, it even surprised me. But I don't quite believe in him too much, he hyped it up a bit. To fight him in Brazil would be ideal.
A bout with Mir would put Werdum near the top of the division right away, which is likely fitting for the man who dethroned Fedor Emelianenko from his undefeated perch.
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I would be so pumped to see Werdum-Mir for the number one contender.
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That's the fight I was hoping for after he beat Roy
I’d love to see Werdum snap his arm.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
I'm just praying it goes to the ground.
I expect it to be a disgusting boxing match.
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That would be nice....
But if we get the Muay Thai of Werdum´s last fight and Mir´s Boxing defense from his last fight, a couple of sweet takedowns and some great rolling, that would be even better :-)
That's what I expect as well
I’m waiting for an interviewer to ask a coach/fighter why this happens
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Would be great.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 6, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that's a fucking great fight
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 6, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
i think the judges really failed to take this into account
roy was robbed.
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by gspmademegay on Feb 6, 2012 4:37 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
No kidding. He kept coming forward, throwing punches. He should have won.
Done with this shit.
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 6, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Roy takes horrible, prolonged abuse to his head when he goes up against the best at heavyweight. His toughness is admirable, but i hope he doesn’t live to regret it later on in life. He’s a real quick witted guy with a great personality, he’s risking losing that later on if he carries on too much longer.
Cabbage, Dan Frye
I look back at those fights, when Dan was such a beast, and couldn’t believe he would just stand there in the pocket and trade blows to the head with guys much, much bigger than him. No wonder his chin faded.
Roy is going to end up like Chris Leben if he doesn’t change his ways.
he's kinda punchy.
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by the-gentle-way on Feb 7, 2012 10:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
War Mir!
this definately would be a fight for the fans.
although i highly doubt there will be much grappling since they both like to strike anyway.
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If Mir breaks Werdum's arm...
Oh shit…the pandemonium over the internet! Joe Rogan & Goldberg would blow their vocal chords right out…
I want this to happen, if only for the reaction it would cause.
WAR MIR!
The chances of that happening
Are nonexistent.
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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 6, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
isnt that what people said about mir doing that to nog?
by benten20 on Feb 6, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sure
And Mir proved us wrong. But Nog frankly isn’t the grappler that Werdum is at this point in their respective careers, and Werdum’s younger (in terms of mileage), a better athlete, and physically stronger. They’re also much different, tactically speaking: Nog is known for high-risk sub attempts, and Werdum would never, ever give up position for a low-percentage submission against a top-flight grappler. On the other hand, I also think Mir is good enough to avoid being submitted by Fabricio.
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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 6, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
I'd love this fight
Because it would ensure that one of these guys loses in their next fight.
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I appreciate the badass element to this.
But this is nothing to be proud of.
Roy put on an awesome performance on the weekend but… he’s become the town punching bag.
This can’t be good for his health and I don’t see his career lasting very long if he continues down this path.
Roy should lose some major weight and move to 205, I hate to see him go in there and get bludgeoned.
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you hate the idea of him going in and getting bludgeoned, what do you think would happen to him at 205???
by Patrick Hughes on Feb 6, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah because 205 has punchers
like JDS and Carwin right..
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No but it has more skilled fighters.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 6, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Who are not as strong.
I appreciate what you’re saying but Roy has terrific jits, under Renzo. He keeps coming forward and he wouldn’t be at a higher risk than he would be at HW against killers of getting knocked out.
Moving to 205 could only help him, that is if he could lose the weight. I don’t see how it could be worse than staying at HW.
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by ihateemo on Feb 6, 2012 5:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 12 recs
I prefer jitz
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by Horselover Fat on Feb 6, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
I just call it grappling.
I think it’s stupid to refer to any type of grappling in MMA as “BJJ” or “Wrestling” or “Judo”. Grappling is a much more accurate, and much simpler term.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 6, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Well he's also 35 and aside from a big right hand, a great chin and his jits he doesn't have so much going for him.
He wouldn’t be at higher risk of getting knocked out but he wouldn’t be at higher risk of winning a fight either. I feel like he’s gone as high as he’s gonna go as a fighter, he can still be a midlevel guy at heavyweight and finish his career there. I don’t think he makes it there at 205.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 6, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
Sad to think he missed big paydays
I learned to like Roy after the TUF thing…and now, I’m thinking it was the worst mistake he’s made. If he could have made it into the UFC without that show, I can’t help but wonder how much more money he could be making for those fights. Being locked into that TUF contract, making low $$$ for that fight with Werdum, JDS…now 35, getting too late in the game for him to change his stripes.
he wouldn’t be at a higher risk than he would be at HW against killers of getting knocked out.
Really? Jones, Evans, Rampage, Machida, Shogun, Henderson, Gustafsson, Lil Nog, Thiago Silva, Matyushenko, Diabate, Bader, et al all hit at least as hard as Fabricio Werdum and are all capable of doing serious damage to Roy Nelson, and they are (almost) all faster than anyone Roy’s fought at heavyweight. Plus Roy couldn’t take down most of those guys even if he wanted to. He’d get the shit kicked out of him at 205.
Fact is, he’s a mid-level heavyweight. His record is actually quite comparable to someone like Stephan Bonnar. Hell, after Schaub (the quality of that win is still unclear) and the shot-out-of-a-cannon Cro Cop, his best win is probably Brad Imes.
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None of them hit as hard as JDS
and Roy survived that onslaught.
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And much good it did him
Not being KO’d doesn’t mean he didn’t sustain damage. I’m pretty sure Cain Velasquez suffered much less harm from his fight with JDS than Nelson did. The other point is that there are plenty of guys at light heavy who hit hard enough to liquidize another chunk of Roy’s brain, and who are also faster and technically better than anyone at heavyweight. Roy’s a slow fighter with poor striking and weak takedowns. He’s going to get hit whatever weight he fights at, but I personally think he’ll take less pastings at Heavyweight since there are fewer good strikers there.
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I guess so.
Let’s just see what is announced.
It’ll be an interesting few weeks coming up.
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Roy is 35
moving down to 205 for the first time in his career at that age is ridiculous. He would have to put his body through serious stress to lose the weight, and even then he wouldn’t be a particularly powerful 205er, it’s not like he has tons of muscle as a heavyweight anyway
by Patrick Hughes on Feb 6, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Sheesh
it’s not like he has tons of muscle as a heavyweight anyway
That’s kind of the point, he’s not a real heavyweight, he’s just fat. He probably is too far gone, but losing 30 pounds over say 6 months would not be killing himself. That’s a little more than a pound a week, or a normal person’s “diet”, and then he’d have a 10 pound cut.
As for this ridiculous myth that “he should stay where there aren’t better athletes!”….if that was true then every one of the “big” LHWs would have just moved up to HW. It’s just not easier to fight a 246 pound guy like Werdum as a 215 pound person who ate their way to 245. He got muscled around in the clinch like a child mostly because Werdum has 30 pounds of muscle on him.
Sure he’d have to change his style some, but that beats the hell out of getting a vag kneed into your face because you aren’t strong enough to break your opponent’s grip. We know how he fares against top 10 HWs, it’s at least worth seeing if he can’t be a better fighter when he’s actually at the right weight AND fighting guys who are the same size.
Not afraid to nitpick
it's the fact that 205 is such a stacked division I don't think he'd do well against some of the fighters lower in the rankings
it’s the fact that he’s never ever been at an athletic weight, which is what he would need at 205. Throughout his whole career he’s just been fat, and made it work best he can. I can’t think of many 205ers who are fat, they are mostly ripped and in good shape and I don’t think Roy could handle it with most of them
by Patrick Hughes on Feb 6, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
I don't mind Mir.
No disrespect to him but WBC Nog had Mir face down, Bloodsport Werdum would light him up on the feet in my opinion. Mir may have have the advantage over a lot guys on the ground but Werdum is a different animal there.
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I loved the fight
But I can’t really say I was a fan of Werdum’s cocky clowning he was doing. I tolerated it until he started pointing to the ground to distract Roy like some trick an uncle would use on his 8 year-old nephew.
Hahaha, I thought it was awesome.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 6, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
It's just the way he is
It’s not a disrespect thing – he loves Roy Nelson and thinks highly of him – he’s just genuinely having fun out there.
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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 6, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Werdum sometimes feels like a character from Mike Tyson's punch out
he is quite the jokester sometimes, I thought it was pretty hilarious.
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Mir vs. Werdum would be an awesome fight.
Make it happen, Joe Silva!!!!!
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So does this mean Cain vs Bigfoot?
Who else would Cain fight?
So we have a little tourney
Cain v Bigfoot and Mir v Werdum. So then JDS fights winner of first Mir vs Werdum then Cain vs Bigfoot? Seems like timing wise, winner of Cain vs Silva would be happening first. How’s everyone’s health right now, other than Werdum?
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyrone Woodly fight.
Either way, have both Cain vs Bigfoot and Mir vs Werdum in Brazil. That would be awesome.
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 7, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
I was just looking up Mir's record
I forgot that he lost to Brandon Vera, lol.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyron Woodley fight.
All this leads me back to the question:
What is the value of having guys who you know won’t contend but wlll be a tough test for up and comers? I think there is a lot of value for the promotion, but is that enough for fighters? Do we as a fan base want gatekeepers? I like Roy. I’d like to see him be a gatekeeper, but I definitely don’t want to see him get killed or permanently damaged a la Big Daddy.
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by DankNabbot on Feb 7, 2012 12:25 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
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