Mike Goldberg's New Source of "Commentary" + List of Things He Likes to Say
by SSreporters on Feb 5, 2012 5:13 PM EST
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PrintFirst off, I'm glad the UFC has finally put official in-fight statistics on their duly improved score-graphic. It's got a boxing-esque feel to it and presumably they're using FightMetric for their numbers and not CompuStrike, which probably had Matt Riddle landing 459 strikes.
Unfortunately, this very helpful new feature of the UFC's revamped broadcast production has now become Mike Goldberg's only source of play-by-play. I lost count of the number of times he would blatantly ignore the action right in front of him to spout off completely uninteresting stats from a fight. So now this is the rough shortlist of things Goldie will mention in every commentary:
- Statistics passed along to him during a fight of any sort (e.g Werdum has landed 80% of his significant strikes).
- Anyone associated with a Karate background or even a Karate stance is automatically another version of Lyoto Machida. Stephen Thompson is an American Machida, don't you know?
- If you just as much land multiple knees in the Muay Thai clinch, it's reminiscent of Anderson Silva.
- If you're small and throw a lot of kicks, you're Jose Aldo. Renan Barao is like a 135 Jose Aldo....until you realize Barao hasn't recorded a KO in forever and has slick offensive submission skills.
- Personal stories of fighters that he's determined to finish reading as Joe Rogan screams all over the actual action going in the cage.
- Any spectacular knockout will be met with "OH MY GOODNESS! HOW GOOD WAS THAT?!"
- Teep!
- Turk!
- Boom!
- It is all over!
- Mediocre fighters like Matt Brown or Matt Riddle are never in a boring fight.
- Every terrible striker like Dean Lister, Jake Shields, Karlos Vemola, or Matt Riddle is described as "ever-improving".
- In pre-fight talk, every loss is simply described as a "hard fought battle".
- Nut shots: "So you wanna be an Ultimate Fighter?" to serve as a reminder that if you want to be an "Ultimate Fighter", you will get kicked in the balls occasionally.
Have I missed anything? Try turning my list into a drinking game. You'd be dead within seconds.
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There's still the good old standard.
Just getting things plain wrong. Like calling Josh Koscheck the most improved striker in UFC history.
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by gzl5000 on Feb 5, 2012 5:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hyperbolic statements should be added
Oh yeah, Fedor is a “myth”! And Nelson has the best chin in MMA even though I’d say Hunt and Cabbage have better ones.
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How Frankie Edgar
Didn’t receive a mention there is beyond me.
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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 5, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously. Gray Maynard is not a power puncher
At all. Recovery skills doesn’t mean you have a great chin.
I think Pride Big Nog also had an epic chin.
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This^, Anderson Silva also has an abusrd chin, but he does not get hit as much. Hendo on the other hand get full on smashed in many fights and yet no one can KO him. Once he loses that chin he is done.
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by Body Triangle on Feb 6, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
We saw that
It was the main event as UFC 139.
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by VenusBlue on Feb 6, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed on Pride Big Nog
But Maynard – when he’s in pure striking mode and not thinking about the takedown – is one of the hardest punchers at 155, and Frankie survived (barely) three fights with him, not to mention 50 minutes of BJ. If that doesn’t equal a great chin, then I don’t know what does.
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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 5, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
It's relative
If you are talking about chin purely in terms of ‘can they take a hard punch and keep their wits’ like an Anderson Silva or Henderson…who can eat shit and stand and fire back
Or if you are talking about someone who can eat shit, go stanky leg all over the cage and still manage not to lose consciousnes fully, like Cheick Kongo or…for example, Frankie Edgar.
Lesnar is another guy who ate a lot of shit in his fights with CArwin and Cain…he didn’t respond well to the punishment, but he stayed ‘awake’
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by Chris Groves on Feb 5, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not convinced those two characteristics are really different things. Anderson, Hendo, and Roy Nelson have all been dropped but showed excellent recovery; for every time Frankie got dropped, there was also an instance in which he took a big shot and stayed on his feet.
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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 5, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
RE Roy:
Also, I would have had no issue if JDS fight got stopped right here, because if you can’t stand up then you aren’t able to fight or defend yourself:
It reminded me of a gif I take any opportunity to post.:
Roy really doesn’t have the best chin or even good recovery. Edgar has awesome recovery because he comes back and fights at nearly 100% after getting trucked. Roy gets hit and survives but never comes back close to peak performance. He manages to slog along and that’s not too impressive.
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by pdl on Feb 5, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That final gif will always bring me back to this.
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 5, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I've never seen that.
Thanks. I’ve been a KT fan since his early fights locally in Sydney, this is still the best moment I’ve seen in Boxing.
Roy gets hit and survives but never comes back close to peak performance. He manages to slog along and that’s not too impressive.
Okay sure, but how far from “slogging along” is Roy’s best performance anyway?
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by gzl5000 on Feb 5, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Being able to take those uppercuts, which no one else
outside of Carwin has been able to take gives you a good chin. If he doesn’t have the best chin, how could take those hits and keep fighting?
Not sure Roy ever really looks that good to begin with.
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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 6, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Eddie Alvarez
Dude was unconscious for a second a couple times in his last loss and came back hard. I was shocked at how full his recovery was.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyrone Woodly fight.
Gray isn't a power puncher
Dude crushed Joe Veres’ jaw, destroyed Rob Emerson’s ribs with ground and pound, almost knocked out Edgar twice. He has power.
by discoandherpes on Feb 5, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Maynard has 12 fights and 3 KOs.
Two were against sub-UFC competition and the third was himself.
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by pdl on Feb 5, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
He almost knocked out Frankie twice and landed big shots on Nate Diaz. If he’s not trying to wrestle, then he’s capable of throwing with big power, but he doesn’t do it that often.
His knockout of himself was by far the best, though.
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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 5, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Maynard has 12 fights and 3 KOs
This is more a product of the way that he fights, rather than an inability to inflict damage on opponents.
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by Drunken cutman on Feb 6, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He has no finishes against even top 50 fighters
I think that played a huge role in him having no killer instinct or any idea of how to finish either fight.
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I think that played a huge role in him having no killer instinct or any idea of how to finish either fight.
Why do you say this?
After the initial harm was done to Edgar, Maynard followed it up by squarely punching him several more times – how would you rather he had gone about attempting to finish the fight?
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by Drunken cutman on Feb 6, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
By taking him down and pounding him out?
Or not swinging wildly and punching himself out?
Maynard spent his time chasing Edgar in the rematch. He didn’t cut off the octagon and time his shots like Edgar did when he KO’d Maynard.
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A choke would have helped too
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by Our Bovine Public on Feb 6, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
By taking him down and pounding him out?
I can’t help but supress the impression that people would then be saying something along the lines of “why did Maynard take him down and use that ground and pound, allowing Edgar to recover, when he should have pressed the advantage on the feet?”.
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by Drunken cutman on Feb 6, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
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by dedstrk316 on Feb 5, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nelson does seem to have a ridiculous chin
Anyone see Arlovski knock him out?
Diaz vs Condit, MMA robbery of the century
by unambig on Feb 5, 2012 10:31 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
the UFC is very far behind mainstream sports in certain things
and this is definitely one of them. The announcing fucking blows.
The hyperbole is another aspect that is just terrible. Every fighters is God if you listen to them. It would be like watchign an NBA game and they acted like every SG was on the same level as MJ
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It's obvious Goldberg is a yes-man and Rogan is becoming one
Because the Rogan on the podcast is fairly different from the one on the broadcast in terms of talking about fights.
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Rogan is becoming one
I quite strongly agree with this – he isn’t nearly so much “a fan in the booth” as fans would like to believe he is.
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by Drunken cutman on Feb 6, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
You kidding me?
There are terrible announcers in every sport. Joe Buck practically yawned through one of the most ridiculous plays in SB history (although he’s gotten better lately to some extent). Phil Simms can watch slow motion replays and confidently come to the wrong conclusion despite the 500 FPS shot proving him obviously wrong like no one in the world. Tim McCarver is a goddamn clown. Joe Morgan was so bad that his shittiness inspired one of the more popular sports blogs on the internet.
Not afraid to nitpick
agreed
Everyone will complain about the announcing until they get replaced then we realize we were much better off leaving things as they were. We pay for the fights not the commentary. In a perfect world everything would be perfect but im fine with the announcing as it is, of course it could be better, but it could also be much worse. On a side note, as a rogan fan he has gotten more annoying for some reason i just cant put my finger on it.
I will take any of them over ANY of the terrible MMA announcers
The guys you mentioned may be annoying, but Goldie and Rogan and people like Shamrock, Mauro, the Voice, Bass, ect actually take away from the experience.
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by duck on Feb 5, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Joe Buck
was on anti-anxiety or anti-depressants and changed up his meds, and that is only partly trying to be funny. Oh yeah, what about Dan Dierdorf? Great point about Phil Simms, dude is one of the most stubborn people alive. And later John Madden was just plain bizarre.
But as the scope of the venue changes….Chris Collinsworth was a great and critical announcer until he got the MNF gig, he really toned it down, and I think that that aspect as well as just his age is what Rogan is all about.
But Goldie is just absolute crap, and really, really hard to sit through. And he’s the kind of bad that once you notice it, it really takes you out of the fight and sets your teeth to grinding. I wonder what it’s like talking to him off mic?
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyrone Woodly fight.
Reminds me...
How much longer do we have to wait for the Second Tournament of Bad? Or has Goldie cleaned out his division and there’s simply no point?
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by McKinley B. Noble on Feb 5, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Probably need to add a division for refs this year. Kim Winslow, Tan Dan the Quick Standup Man, Mazzagatti, Yamasaki, Herb Dean ……so many precious fight-changing moments to savor.
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by ( . Y . ) on Feb 5, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Kim Winslow....
….I mean good Lord, why does she have to wait until the little birds are flying around before she stops a fight?? She must go away forever….
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by BrothersGottaAndyHug on Feb 6, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
That was largely run by Brookhouse and Fagan, I think.
Now that Fagan isn’t around, no idea if it’ll be coming back.
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This is hilarious..
- Nut shots: “So you wanna be an Ultimate Fighter?” to serve as a reminder that if you want to be an “Ultimate Fighter”, you will get kicked in the balls occasionally.
Amazing.
Very well done!!!
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Also just wanted to add:
Goldie really killed it when he didn’t know anything about the new Ultimate Fighter format at the GSP Q&A. I mean really? There’s Mauro and then there’s another level of terrible called Goldie. I honestly think he needs to sit down with someone and gets taught all the basics. He isn’t even doing play-by-play anymore. Rogan as a color commentator is doing everything. Goldie is just there fore “AND IT’S ALL OOOOOOOOOOOVEEEEEER!!!!” and sillyness like that.
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Goldie understands tone and cadence
but is never gonna get the substance. He’s the guy who thinks about the voice, the delivery, the rhythm, and whatever he’s talking about is not important. I was flipping through the weird ESPN small channels once and I heard him calling a speedboat race, and seriously, it was exactly the same. I mean I, like everyone else, know nothing about speedboat racing but I could have written better material.
He’s like Ron Burgundy without a teleprompter.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyrone Woodly fight.
by DankNabbot on Feb 6, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
He’s like Ron Burgundy without a teleprompter
Simply put and right on the money.
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by Harley hooper on Feb 6, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is a good assessment of Goldberg
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by Drunken cutman on Feb 6, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Everything from "Personal stories about fighters..." onward
just resembles the usual Golbergisms. The only difference is that before, he never used to call the action. Now, he assumes calling random fightmetric stats of the fight qualifies for play-by-play.
...he also sends me messages saying "Prepare your soul, only god and jiu jitsu can save you and god isn’t listening". -Patrick Tenney
Goldberg has always thrown out random stats during fights though, I don’t know why its getting so much attention now.
He's usually descriptive with his stats
like “most underrated”, “one of the toughest”, “incredible striking”, that sort of thing.
This time, it was clear he was being fed stats while the fight itself was still going on, saying stuff like “so far, he’s landed 80% of leg kicks”, “so-and-so has whatever number of significant strikes this round.”
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Don't forget the all-important alma mater that he needs to mention with every wrestler
So Goldie, where did Josh Koscheck attend college even though he’s 34 now.
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Lately he’s also been breaking down the combos fighters like to throw. Which… isn’t actually that stupid. Granted, he sometimes gets them wrong, or will claim that someone has been landing a particular combination “all night long” if it lands twice, but at least it’s calling the action to a degree I don’t recall from before.
One of my favorites last night
was when he was referring to Big Country as:
Truly one the people’s true champions…
by r74g on Feb 5, 2012 7:21 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
thats a fucking insult to tito ortiz
and he should be ashamed of himself.
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by gspmademegay on Feb 6, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"a la Randy Couture"
you forgot this old chestnut anytime anyone has someone else pinned against the cage and is leaning on them.
and this closely related variation anytime anyone is in a tight clinch and throws a few uppercuts or elbows – “some dirty boxing there, a la Randy Couture”
by Bennett Von Bennett on Feb 5, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
embarrassingly enough I was comparing barao to aldo during the fight too
But mainly because of the whipping leg kicks
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by unambig on Feb 5, 2012 10:30 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
and stance, quickness, overall style
didnt have a problem with that one.
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But mainly because of the whipping leg kicks
In terms of range and effort level, I actually think that they throw their leg kicks quite differently.
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by Drunken cutman on Feb 6, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
another hilarious thing I remember Goldie saying is when he compared a fighter to Rocky Balboa, a fictitious character
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by unambig on Feb 5, 2012 10:34 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
another hilarious thing I remember Goldie saying is when he compared a fighter to Rocky Balboa, a fictitious character
Let’s be fair to Goldeberg, there is nothing wrong with comparing actual people to fictional characters. Admittedly, his Rocky comparison was tenuous at best, but the format is common and acceptable.
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by Drunken cutman on Feb 6, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
I often wonder if hardcore-type fans (i.e. the folks who would frequent an MMA-news website like BE) understand that Goldie is there to service the non-hardcore fans. Really, it seems odd that people would think the UFC should put announcers in the booth catering to a minority of the audience.
I truly do not understand.
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
Hey there, strawman!
The fact that you think Mike Goldberg commentates the way he does (and more importantly, that we are so annoyed at him for commentating the way he does) because he’s catering to non-hardcores means either:
A. You’ve never actually heard Mike Goldberg speak, or
B. You think non-hardcore fans are blithering idiots.
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Not being familiar with something does not make one an idiot… I try to watch cricket and I’d love a guy explaining things on the level that Goldberg does because I have absolutely no idea wtf is going on. I don’t think that makes me an idiot… but maybe I’m overestimating myself.
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
Here's my point.
We don’t hate Mike because he explains the basics. We hate Mike because he’s awful. Joe Rogan does a FAR better job of commentating for the casuals; his insistence on 10th planet terminology aside, he does a good job of explaining what’s going on in the grappling game on the fly, which is the hardest part for new fans to understand.
Goldberg doesn’t get hate because he explains things to new fans, he gets hate because he does brain-dead things like continuing to read an advertising promo or tell an irrelevant story over the most exciting moments of a fight. He also blurts out statistics like “He’s landed over 60 strikes this round!” with zero context, simply because he’s been handed a stat sheet. When he tries to speak to casual fans, it’s more important to him to show off his own MMA knowledge by endlessly pointing out his new favorite aspect of the game that he’s learned this week. So, he’ll just wait and watch for any instance of a fighter throwing a front kick so he can shout “TEEP!” or he’ll wait for fighters to clinch against the cage so he can say “Randy Couture! Head fighting! Randy Couture! Head fighting! Awk, awk, Randy Couture!”
Commentary for the casual fans doesn’t have to be dumbed down or inane, Goldie just likes it that way.
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by gzl5000 on Feb 5, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Very nicely said
Goldie’s constant references to other fighters as points of comparison for what’s going on in the cage are the worst thing for casual fans. Using a meaningless standard of comparison doesn’t help them understand what’s going on at all, and may even turn them off entirely, while hardcore fans simply ignore him as utterly and completely incorrect.
I don’t wish the guy any ill will, and genuinely think he has enough knowledge of the sport to be good at his job, but as it stands he’s a blight.
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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 6, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
I’m a bit post-superbowl drunk (zomg that game was awesome!) so I cannot represent myself especially well here… but one thing that those sorts of comparisons achieve is familiarity. When someone is hearing a description for the first time, they love to hear things they’re already familiar with. Making comparisons between Couture and Jon Jones, both coming from a Greco-Roman background, is an easy thing for people to latch on to. We select few know that there are very few similarities in their fighting styles… Jones uses his wrestling far more defensively and Couture used it to set up dirty boxing… but to a casual fan there’s an appeal to simply sliding this new fellow Jones into the mold already cast by Couture. The Thompson-Machida comparisons are equally unfounded and yet equally useful for casual fans.
It’s an unfortunate fact of human existence that we tend to be fond of things we are familiar with. Go to any open-mic music night and you’ll see the crowd disinterested on hearing anything new and then start cheering at the first chords of a song they’ve heard a hundred times.
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
I agree 100%, and you said that beautifully
For a certain group of casuals, the comparisons are wonderfully helpful, and occasionally Goldie says something insightful along those lines in spite of himself to the benefit of absolutely anyone watching, from utter novices to the most jaded hardcore fan. What I meant, though, is that a casual fan may not not know enough about those fighters for the comparison to have any meaning. If you’re a fan who’s just starting to get into MMA, you might not have any idea who Randy Couture is or why he’s such a legend; maybe you’ve heard the name but don’t know much about his style.
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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 6, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
I do think commentary for casual fans needs to be dumbed down… at least from the lofty heights I’d personally desire in my heart of hearts (Rogan+Rutten please dear god let it happen!). I understand where Fagan’s inane spew inspires discontent, i truly do… but I really do think in order to have a broad-base appeal, especially on events on Fox, the UFC needs someone like Rogan to dumb it down for the masses.
I’d take Goldie over guys like Gus Johnson any day. Mauro Ranallo is the only other guy who does the Goldie job well, and I’d probably say better than Goldie does on most days.
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
Quadros.
I’d take Quadros any day of the week. I don’t care that he looks like the Crypt Keeper or that he doesn’t have the “big personality” shtick that Mauro and Schiavello have, Quadros’ commentary is intelligent and pinpoint accurate while still being accessible to casual fans. I dream of someday hearing Quadors and Rogan, or Quadros and Bas, or all 3 commentating for UFC events.
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by gzl5000 on Feb 6, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Quadros knows his shit, I'd have like to hear him and Miletich without Mauro on Strikeforce Challenger events.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 6, 2012 7:51 AM EST up reply actions
Could have been so much better...
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 6, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a huge Schiavello fan, myself. He has the technical knowledge (especially of the striking game), does massive amounts of research on fighters, keeps a nice cadence for the play-by-play, and tosses some humor in. His style might not be for everyone, though, and I’m not sure how well he’d translate to casuals.
Anik has some serious promise, especially for novices.
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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 6, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
Shiavello is the one guy i really cannot stand… his hyperbole is just too much for me. I do appreciate the guy is honest though, him talking about how terribly boring Arlovski and Sylvia were on the last ProElite card was refreshing.
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
Yeah
What do you think about Anik?
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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 6, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve enjoyed him on MMA Live… like you said, he shows promise but he’s still just starting out. I think he needs someone with more booth experience than Florian beside him.
Mir did a great job for the WEC back in the day, far better than Florian does in my opinion.
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
I love Schiavello personally, but like you said his style isn't for everyone.
Anik seems promising but I’m not so sure about teaming him with Florian.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 6, 2012 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I think the more important flaw is that he is just blatantly wrong a lot.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyrone Woodly fight.
the guy reads promos when the producer tells him to. how is that his fault? if they didn’t want him to do it, they wouldn’t tell him to. and if they had a problem with him timing, then at some point over the last however many years, a producer would have told him to cut it off if the action picks up. it sounds to me like people don’t like how the PPVs are produced. that’s not goldbergs fault.
What.
I’m pretty sure a producer does not stand over Goldberg and whisper into his ear, “Do the promo now!” The man is supposed to be a professional and has been employed by the UFC for years now. He shouldn’t need anyone else to tell him that he should cut off a promo when something exciting happens, he should know better. But he doesn’t, because he is god-awful.
Share for share, share alike, you'll get struck each time I strike.
just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's not true.
i’ll one-up you and say that i’m positive that a producer tells him when to read a promo. that’s why he wears an earpiece. after all of these years, don’t you think that if the UFC doesn’t like him not cutting off a promo, then they would have told him to start cutting off a promo. the UFC is a business, first and foremost, and as such they have to make money. it’s a slightly, but not entirely, different situation, but they don’t cut off a bud light commercial to return you to your favorite TV show. once the promo starts, you finish it out. advertisers don’t care what is happening. they want their promo read. it’s what they paid for.
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i’m sure the spnosors would just love it.
by tha dude on Feb 7, 2012 7:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If that's the case then he's misleading the viewer
Every time Chris Lytle fights Goldberg brings up his “KO POWER” even though his entire career consists of one knockout against a lightweight. That’s dishonest and showing a clear lack of knowledge.
The problem with the UFC’s hype-machine is that they make everyone seem great and lacking in few skills. They are no different than most other leagues in going away from proper criticism, it’s just that the UFC has become very obvious.
Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters
I remembered Goldie saying someone was
“Ultra talented” or saying “ultra-something”, all I could think of was
.
"lulz" - ProfessorBLove
Ugh. I hate that one.
Slip and rip. As in, Phil Davis slipped on the canvas all through his fight with Rashad and ripped open the skin on his right leg. Which is what comes to mind when Goldie says such things.
Share for share, share alike, you'll get struck each time I strike.
Swingin' and miss
BIG SWING AND MISS!
"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
by Horselover Fat on Feb 6, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
punches in bunches
at 143 he said “wow he threw a bunch of punches in bunches there…” during a fight
why can’t he just use “combination”, do trainers tell their fighters to throw punches in bunches and slip and rip. it’s effective because it rhymes! sprawl and brawl!
How does "explosive athleticism" not make it onto the list?
I thought Goldie’s head was going to explode during Evans/Davis. He only lasted a minute or so before he vomited that one up.
Naturally, I am a fan of a post like this. Rec for you, sir.
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by AwkwardwithwordmakingisGoldberg,huhJoe on Feb 6, 2012 3:35 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
he used at least once
Just during the walk-ins.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 6, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
he really goes to the well with how leg kicks
take the spring out of one’s step, esp for the “power double”
Well
That is true.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 6, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
....
“That’s (insert fighter or coach technique) 101.” He said that’s Rafael Cordeiro 101 when Werdum was kneeing Nelson
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by FrontRowBrian on Feb 6, 2012 8:05 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Sadly...
After the fights the other night I let my wife kick me in my nuts, well here it is Monday morning and I still have a desk job and am not an ultimate fighter…Thanks Goldie…
by Chris WhiteDynamite Bielanski on Feb 6, 2012 8:21 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
"Head Fighting"......
He used that term several times when talking about clinch work and head control. Ive never heard anyone else use it.
Is it used by any coaches, academys, or anybody out there for that matter?
"Go get yuu some DONNALD CERRONNEEE" ,greg Jackson (not refering to more fans)
i’ve actually heard that one used in wrestling, i think
unless Goldie lingo has permeated my memories of high school
Wrestling coaches may use hand fighting
but in 18 years of HS coaching, I’ve never heard head fighting. “Drill your forehead in his temple!”, sure. But head fighting? That’s a negative, Ghost Rider.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Yeah, it’s lookin more and more like Goldie might have invented it. I re watched and he definitely says “head fighting”. I’m sure we’ll here it again and again like all of his sayings.\ Thanks for the feed back.
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by Harley hooper on Feb 6, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
Are you sure he isn’t saying “hand fighting”? Because that’s a real thing anyway
"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
by Horselover Fat on Feb 6, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
No, I heard it at least twice during the night.
During the Matt Brown fight and the Ed Herman fight. They were clinched againist the cage, pretty much Greco Roman style and with their hands tied up they were trying to tuck or move their heads. They weren’t head butting, but a lot of movement\ involved. I was at Gals Guide in their post and they heard it the same way. The 1st time i was like huh? After I heard it again I asked if any one else had heard it\ and\ nope. I am about to concede that Goldie has termed a new MMA term and it’s Head Fighting. Not sure if it’s one word or two.
"Go get yuu some DONNALD CERRONNEEE" ,greg Jackson (not refering to more fans)
by Harley hooper on Feb 6, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, okay. I must have missed that myself, you’re probably right though. I’ve never heard the term before either but I’m no expert on wrestling and stuff like that.
"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
by Horselover Fat on Feb 6, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
He used it during the prelims too
I actually think that one of the corner men used it, but it was new to me too.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 6, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Well I know what he means
Insofar as the fight for head position is a very important aspect of clinch fighting. Not sure I’ve heard the actual term “head fighting” before, but it’s actually not an unreasonable neologism.
"You know, these guys want to talk about God. 'Oh, I want to thank God. I want to thank God.' Listen, I'm a God-fearing man, go to church every Sunday and have since I was a boy. But if I ever found out that God cared one way or another about a borderline illegal fist-fight on Saturday night, I would be so greatly disappointed that it would make rethink my entire belief system." ~ Chael Sonnen.
Good point, that is true about the positioning of the head being important.
"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
by Horselover Fat on Feb 6, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
That said, I suspect it's going to be Goldie's latest technical buzz-word
that we’ll keep hearing for the next six months anytime two fighters enter any sort of clinch; like nowadays how a guy could be on his side setting up a half-guard sweep and Goldberg would be going on about the turk.
"You know, these guys want to talk about God. 'Oh, I want to thank God. I want to thank God.' Listen, I'm a God-fearing man, go to church every Sunday and have since I was a boy. But if I ever found out that God cared one way or another about a borderline illegal fist-fight on Saturday night, I would be so greatly disappointed that it would make rethink my entire belief system." ~ Chael Sonnen.
Yeah, what is “the turk” anyway? I seem to recall hearing it said, but I have no idea what it means. Actually, I guess you just informed me saying it’s a half-guard sweep?
"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
by Horselover Fat on Feb 6, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know the BJJ equivalent...
but in wrestling, it’s lacing the far leg when the man is stomach down and then elevating it with one of your legs, making it almost impossible for him to get back to stomach down.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
by duck on Feb 6, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The position you wind up in with the turk
Is roughly what a BJJ player would call half-guard (like about 0:37 of that video), but it’s a terrible version of half-guard which would be basically impossible to sweep from. Goldie however, has started going on about it anytime someone ends up in half-guard, however they got there and even if the guy on bottom has good posture and is working to sweep.
"You know, these guys want to talk about God. 'Oh, I want to thank God. I want to thank God.' Listen, I'm a God-fearing man, go to church every Sunday and have since I was a boy. But if I ever found out that God cared one way or another about a borderline illegal fist-fight on Saturday night, I would be so greatly disappointed that it would make rethink my entire belief system." ~ Chael Sonnen.
Cool, thanks to both of you for informing me!
"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
by Horselover Fat on Feb 6, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Well, it's a terrible version of half-guard
because it has a different purpose. :)
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I mean, it's terrible for the guy on bottom
Which of course you’d expect ;)
"You know, these guys want to talk about God. 'Oh, I want to thank God. I want to thank God.' Listen, I'm a God-fearing man, go to church every Sunday and have since I was a boy. But if I ever found out that God cared one way or another about a borderline illegal fist-fight on Saturday night, I would be so greatly disappointed that it would make rethink my entire belief system." ~ Chael Sonnen.
Actually, 0:15 is even more "half-guard-like"
Also, thanks for the video.
"You know, these guys want to talk about God. 'Oh, I want to thank God. I want to thank God.' Listen, I'm a God-fearing man, go to church every Sunday and have since I was a boy. But if I ever found out that God cared one way or another about a borderline illegal fist-fight on Saturday night, I would be so greatly disappointed that it would make rethink my entire belief system." ~ Chael Sonnen.
Not a problem
I’d love to see a FanPost comparing like BJJ and wrestling terms. I feel like BJJ fans and amateur wrestling fans talk past each other sometimes because we don’t always realize we’re saying the same thing with different words.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Definitely
There’s a difference in perspective too – like in the conversation about the turk/half-guard earlier I unthinkingly looked at it from the bottom guy’s position. I saw “Bad spot for the bottom guy”; I guess a wrestler sees “Good spot for the top guy”.
Something like the turk to prevent an opponent going belly down seems weird from my point of view because in BJJ I’d just choke the guy – while I know some turnovers from the turtle, bellying out isn’t something I encounter so a technique like that is very interesting to me. In fact, the wrestling approach to positional control has been an interest of mine lately: I recently saw Barnett’s “Punishing Rides” DVD and found it quite intriguing – the technical principles were familiar but the philosophy rather different.
"You know, these guys want to talk about God. 'Oh, I want to thank God. I want to thank God.' Listen, I'm a God-fearing man, go to church every Sunday and have since I was a boy. But if I ever found out that God cared one way or another about a borderline illegal fist-fight on Saturday night, I would be so greatly disappointed that it would make rethink my entire belief system." ~ Chael Sonnen.
KJ and ATF should team up for that one, I think it would be very informative for everyone
Pat Barry made a wrestle - some schmuk in texas
I don't know more about MMA than you, I just act like it at HeadKickLegend
I'm pretty sure I've heard him say it a few times in the last few months.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 6, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I understood what he meant I was just wondering if others had heard it or used it. Part of what made it seem awkward was Goldie himself saying it. You’re right about us hearing more though, especially if Goldie thinks he can be a trend setter with it.
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by Harley hooper on Feb 6, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
..
“Meteoric rise” is another one of his favorites
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by FrontRowBrian on Feb 6, 2012 8:32 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Which is odd
Considering that meteors fall.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 6, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
One more....
“Punches in Bunches”…. and then even Rashad Evans in the post fight said “Punches in Bunches”… he had been infected by Goldie!
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“I’d rather listen to Gilbert Gotfried fuck Joan Rivers, than listen to you commentate.”
goes off on Goldberg at the 8:30 mark.
"Go get yuu some DONNALD CERRONNEEE" ,greg Jackson (not refering to more fans)
I've only saw/heard a few stories about him.
pretty much an mma/combat sports fan whose made a small name for himself analyzing events, fighters, making bets with other fans, etc. an amateur you tube star pretty much. the clip from above is from his channel channel. the only thing that sets him apart from other regulars of the same nature is that some fighters, journalist, or people in the biz have recognized him. marloes coenen for one and that vid above is also on 10th planets website. he’s off the wall sometimes but pretty hilarious
"Go get yuu some DONNALD CERRONNEEE" ,greg Jackson (not refering to more fans)
by Harley hooper on Feb 6, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
thanks. hes too much for me.
i heard dana reference him on a vlog and thought, with a name like that, he was some black, old fart boxing trainer or something.
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by gspmademegay on Feb 6, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, too much for me as well, but that little gem about goldie had me crackin up
"Go get yuu some DONNALD CERRONNEEE" ,greg Jackson (not refering to more fans)
by Harley hooper on Feb 6, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
he got popular when fedor got taken off the sherdog p4p list after the werdum loss
he lost his shit and raged
great stuff
Corn Nuts.
The official corn snack of the UFC.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
by tkotom on Feb 6, 2012 8:56 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
^That one was Goldien
"Go get yuu some DONNALD CERRONNEEE" ,greg Jackson (not refering to more fans)
by Harley hooper on Feb 6, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
The official corn snack of the UFC
Fuck all those vastly inferior unofficial UFC-related corn snacks!
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Feb 6, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know right
Corn Nuts are the only ones for me.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
When Anthony Johnson moves up a weight class
There’s only one corn snack for him!
"You know, these guys want to talk about God. 'Oh, I want to thank God. I want to thank God.' Listen, I'm a God-fearing man, go to church every Sunday and have since I was a boy. But if I ever found out that God cared one way or another about a borderline illegal fist-fight on Saturday night, I would be so greatly disappointed that it would make rethink my entire belief system." ~ Chael Sonnen.
by VenusBlue on Feb 6, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Both Joe and Goldie
Have to mention the word “tremendous” at least once or twice in every event.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
mentioning pride. not pride fc, actual pride. like brazilian pride, british pride, proudly serving american, proud of his heritage blah blah. it’s like goldie thinks it’s some sort of superpower.
i have noticed that; it’s basically said about anybody not from america.
"Go get yuu some DONNALD CERRONNEEE" ,greg Jackson (not refering to more fans)
by Harley hooper on Feb 6, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
imagine goldie's sex tape.
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by gspmademegay on Feb 6, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Funny you mention that. Some chat transcript from this past weekend
Me: Shouldn’t Goldie say “nice punch or good kick” not "Whoa" or "oh my".
Another poster:Goldy isn’t actually there.
They are just using audio clips of his recent sex tape.
"Go get yuu some DONNALD CERRONNEEE" ,greg Jackson (not refering to more fans)
by Harley hooper on Feb 6, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"BOOM! OH MAN I AM JUST TEEING OFF, JOE!"
Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters
by SSreporters on Feb 6, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Joe's in the corner with a mic, wearing his crazy eyes look.
<Obligatory “IT’S DEEP!” joke here>
Share for share, share alike, you'll get struck each time I strike.
OHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! HUGE SHOTS TO THE BODY, MIKE!
SHE’S BEEN MOUNTED!
Kenny Florian: Oh he’s gonna finish this!
Schiavello: GOODNIGHT IRENE! THE BIG KIBOSH!
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by SSreporters on Feb 6, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
THE SPECIAL MOVE OF THE NIGHT,
BROUGHT TO YOU BY CONDOM DEPOT!
...he also sends me messages saying "Prepare your soul, only god and jiu jitsu can save you and god isn’t listening". -Patrick Tenney
^Nice..lol
Don't read the bottom of the internet.
by Harley hooper on Feb 6, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
"he is the michale jordan of bjj"
havent seen anybody post it and yes it is very old but damn…. just damn.
these are a few of my favorite things in no order: BHO, WANDY, burritos, chili, HMK glass, USMTA, NYHC, Motorhead, turtles, frogs, rewatching Chael tap to Anderson, and Big Nog KOing Schaub.
by the jewish conquistador on Feb 6, 2012 10:53 AM EST reply actions
classic grappler vs. striker matchup
by lordrubbish on Feb 6, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You know Joe, when two grapplers/wrestlers cancel each other out on the ground
We tend to see a kickboxing match!
Read my tweets or whatever - @SSReporters
what we have here, Joe
are two ever evolving mixed martial artists!
arrrrggghhhhh!
I fucking HATE that one!
by Bennett Von Bennett on Feb 7, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
“Superman punch!”
“meteoric rise”
and he always freaks me out when he uses “COMING UP NEXT!” at the end of a sentence, and it sounds like they just played his sound bite from the video game.
by Ikuhisa Quinoa on Feb 6, 2012 1:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
on the same subject
what the fuck does “leave it all in the OCTAGON” means? also one of goldie’s favorites.
and don’t forget the horrifying trips to Rio THEY Shaneyrow together with YO-SEY AL-DOW
Now I've switched signature to this one.
by the guy with the big nose on Feb 6, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
something along the lines of “don’t leave it up to the judges”
meaning if you’re in close a fight against a better striker that you can’t take down, you should consider gettin knocked out and leave it all (i.e. your brain) inside the octagon
but he always says it in round 3 when a decision seems inevitable. it’s wierd. he even said it in the maia vs. weidman fight when they were battling who could gas worse
Now I've switched signature to this one.
by the guy with the big nose on Feb 7, 2012 7:49 AM EST up reply actions
So looks like someone finally came around to making that BE Drinking Game post
by Mjub on Feb 6, 2012 2:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Didn't we have one before
2 or so years ago I remember seeing posts about it. The rules kind of changed depending on who was fighting.
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by Harley hooper on Feb 6, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
he also said on the 143 brodcast
that the ufc 144 card was in september. honest mistake but quite funny
Now I've switched signature to this one.
by the guy with the big nose on Feb 6, 2012 2:45 PM EST reply actions
At one point during 143,
I can’t recall which fight it was, but he started reading an ad during seriously one of the most exciting parts of the fight. And didn’t stop when Joe tried to call the action. It’s too much, I think they finally need to replace him.
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That's just bad luck
I bet he HAS to finish reading the ad no matter what, and he is required to read it at some point during the fight, he can’t predict what will happen in the next 30 seconds of a fight.
by polevaultking on Feb 6, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Adrenaline dump" and "Octagon jitters"
by polevaultking on Feb 6, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Frank Mir doing color back in the WEC was top notch
Sadly I doubt he will go back to broadcasting when he retires
Miguel has lost his championship luster.
Mir will never be the same colour man again.
by verloc on Feb 6, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
^So true
Don't read the bottom of the internet.
by Harley hooper on Feb 6, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Dirty Boxing
He’s utilizing some great Dirty Boxing
There some nice Dirty Boxing
He loves his Dirty Boxing
He’s looking to use Dirty Boxing
Trying to set up Dirty Boxing
Dirty Boxing
Dirty Boxing
Dirty Boxing
I Bleed Blue and Green
and everything else
is VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL!
by lordrubbish on Feb 6, 2012 4:45 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
The premature "it's all over" into "NOOO" for Sherk vs Lauzon gets me every time
Some highlight vids of Goldies work.
by aTn on Feb 6, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
WANDERLEI SILVA BEATS...
WANDERLEI SILVA BEATEN BY CHRIS LEBEN!
ftw
'cuz if his names keith johnson
then the ‘dean of mean’ makes NO SENSE.’
LAWLS.
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by gspmademegay on Feb 7, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
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