My frustration with the Diaz-Condit fight

i am always conflicted after a fight like this. i love both sides of an MMA fight. (slugfest v technical fight) for me the only thing that didn’t happen that needed to was for Nick to get rocked just one time. i think it would have changed the whole perception of the fight for most of us.
we are such critics and even when the community by and large agrees w/ each other about anything, we still find ways to bitch at one another.

Hyping a fight like Condit did this one and sticking to a boring game plan is what disinterest people. Thats why fitch and Gsp catch the flack they do. In Gsp’s earlier days i wouldn’t miss a fight of his, and now i’ll watch but would never buy his ppv b/c his fights don’t deliver on the hype he puts behind them. Not totally judging Condit on this one performance, but i’m sure he’ll fall into that “fighting not to lose” mentality

With the exception of Jackson fighters.
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Even though I enjoyed the shit outta this fight it wasn’t quite as good as it had been hyped or as I expected it to be. But like you say it would have been stupid to Carlos to standnbang

After the fight no matter who won or lost, I felt Condit at least robbed Diaz of a FOTN bonus.

I hated the way Condit won, because I thought he would really unload on Diaz like he said before. And while I’m such a big Diaz fan, I can’t take the win away from Condit. Like other pointed out, maybe it’s the only way to win against Diaz and I think Condit had the perfect gameplan. Even if it did not satisfy my bloodlust. ;)

But I was really surprised how many trainer, fighters etc. were mad at the decision.
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I wonder If Condit’s game plan the whole time was to leave it in the hands of the judges. I remember Jackson saying something between rounds about ‘keep kicking that leg and move’ or something to that effect. I’m just frustrated to see point fighters being rewarded for being evasive and not actually trying to engage in a fight. Even with lay n pray the fighter on top is with out question in a dominant position. Unless evident and unarguable damaging is being done the strategy of tag an run doesn’t imply dominance imo, especially when the guy is running away from the fight.
Ultimately Condit ran away from the very thing judges were supposed to be scoring; a freakin fight.

I feel like I finally got Adriana Lima into bed and she was terrible.

These were the words I was trying to find last night when Diaz lost, yet I wasn’t super happy about it. And it’s not because I don’t understand/appreciate Condit’s gameplan

But what the fuck was up with the judges scorecards?

Seriously, how does condit get the 5th round? That’s a fucking joke. Diaz had his back for over 90 seconds, was working for subs and landing shots. Yet Condit gets the round? Fuck me. The inconsistencies in MMA kill me. Guys like Tyron Woodley wrestlefuck EVERYONE and get UD’s all day, but Diaz takes him down and gets the back and is active and doesn’t get the round? WHAT THE FUCK.

Mistake #1

Thankfully, MMA still has champions who looks forward to ending a fight. If the blueprint of all champs are in the form of GSP or COndit (on this fight), I wouldnt watch this sport – I’ll probably be more productive at work. I love this sport, I got fired once because of this website, but I completely agree with Nick Diaz – we dont need this shit. If he is retiring, good for him.

What’s really weird is watching you lump the opinions of a shitload of people you don’t know into the same boat. The random people hating on GSP are the same random people praising Condit?

Either you keep Nixon-esque Bloody Elbow enemy lists or you’re overgeneralizing to the point where what you’re saying can’t possibly be true.

I also found it frustrating and disappointing. I’m actually a Diaz fan, but I thought Condit could go toe to toe with him, which was a really exciting prospect. Diaz got outsmarted, so props to Condit’s camp for that. But I think the real reason it’s so disappointing is because Diaz, more than any other fighter, needs the redemption of winning. His behavior is inexcusable unless he’s the best of the best.

As for Condit-GSP, I’m divided. I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion that they will spend the whole time pirouetting around and evading each other. It’s clear now that Condit is able to easily change his style and that he adapts well (for better or worse, excitement-wise), which could prove to be an extremely interesting match up for the equally tactical & intelligent GSP. Because when you have two fighters who adapt to exploit flaws to the degree that they can/do, who the fuck knows what will happen?

His kicks never really impressed me. If he leg kicked Diaz like Cyborg or Daley I’d give him points, but instead he kicks like a point Karate/TKD guy and foot jabs with his instep.

They picked a winner but the fans were the real losers.

that Kampmann can lose a decision to Sanchez where he didnt take half as many backward steps as Condit did last nite, while beating Diego’s face into a mess, but Condit easily gets the win on all scorecards. At the end of the 5th I was actually hoping they were those same dumb stand n bang judges from the Kamp/Sanchez fight

I FINALLY re watched the fight and i feel like i underappreciated Carlos’ efforts. His striking techniques were executed consistently and authoratatively against the mean mugging iron man.
Carlos , went in and turned the tables on the striking machine. He said , “Nick , you might dine on human flesh, but tonight i’m kicking your ass.”

It must have been a bit of a bitter pill for GSP watching at ringside. He gets his extremely lucrative fight with Diaz taken away from him by Condit using a very GSP-like strategy.

and what we got instead was one guy pressing hard the whole fight and the other one point fighting and running.

by “pressing hard”, do you mean walking forward? Because, for all his bluster, Diaz wasn’t pressing hard. He apparently admitted as much after fight when he said that he would have finished Condit if he knew that he had to. If Nick wasn’t going hard in the paint, why are we down on Condit for being restrained? At least Condit had a goal in mind.

How the fuck can anyone compare what Condit did to Fitch? Get a grip.

Condit threw hundreds of strikes, jesus.

The whiners think Condit should have gone toe to toe and taken on Diaz AT HIS OWN GAME – the same game that pretty much every sucker who fought Diaz in his previous 11 fights did? How did that go for them?

That would just be plain dumb.