UFC 143 Results: Carlos Condit Wins Interim Welterweight Title Over Nick Diaz In Thrilling Affair
by Tim Burke on Feb 5, 2012 1:02 AM EST
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Carlos Condit used a solid, measured gameplan to capture the UFC interim welterweight title by winning a unanimous decision over Nick Diaz in the main event of UFC 143. Condit ignored all of the mind games Diaz tried to employ in the fight, and landed a ton of damaging kicks while staying away from situations where Diaz could truly open up on him. The scores were 49-46, 49-46 and 48-47 for Condit. He now has a date with UFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre when he recovers from his injury. Diaz claimed he was going to retire in his post-fight interview.
Diaz took the center of the cage immediately, but it was Condit firing first with kicks. Diaz continued to walk down Condit and landed a couple of nice shots, while Condit responded with leg kicks. Diaz threw some kicks of his own, and started to drop his hands and talk to Condit. Diaz dug to the body with a big shot, but Condit again responded with a leg kick. Condit tried a couple of spinning elbows without success. Diaz closed out the first round by clowning a bit, but not landing anything.
Condit opened the second with a variety of flashy strikes, but nothing landed. Condit continued to work the legs, and he actually landed a spinning backfist. Diaz actually dropped his hands and begged Condit to him him, then open-hand slapped him when he didn't. Diaz talked some trash, but didn't land much until a good right connected halfway through the round. Condit landed a body shot, and Diaz clowned some more. Finally Diaz landed a solid combination, but Condit stayed calm and landed more kicks. Diaz stared Condit down to close out another close round.
The third saw more of the same as the first two rounds. Solid kicking game from Condit, and Diaz continually coming forward with solid combinations. Condit did a good job of circling away so he wouldn't get cornered and be prone to a Diaz flurry. Diaz landed a very big left hand with a minute to go, but it had no effect on Condit. Diaz upped the pace late, but ate a lot of leg kicks over the course of five minutes.
Diaz looked visibly frusrated at Condit's gameplan early in the fourth, but couldn't do much to keep Condit in front of him. Diaz dropped down for a single two minutes in, but Condit shrugged it off and landed a strike as he escaped. Condit started to land a lot more in he latter half of the round with nice combinations. Condit bloodied up Nick's eye with a jab late in the round.
Diaz continued to chase Condit around the cage in the fifth and opened up his own kicking game a bit more. The pace slowed ever so slightly, and less strikes were being landed by both for the first half. Condit landed a big head kick that didn't face Nick at all. Finally Nick clinched up with Carlos, but Condit escaped again and went back to attacking the legs. Diaz managed to land a nice right, but Condit responded with a good knee. Diaz managed to get Condit's back with 75 seconds to go and secured back mount. After locking up a body triangle, he tried valiantly to sink in a choke but Condit fought him off. The round and the fight ended in a big scramble, but the fighters hugged after the final horn.
Diaz is a former Strikeforce welterweight champion that expected to take on Georges St. Pierre for the UFC welterweight title here, but an injury to GSP gave Condit the spot and the bout was for an interim title. Condit, a former WEC welterweight champion, was on a four-fight winning streak entering the bout, with the last two wins coming by brutal knockout.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 5, 2012 12:55 AM EST reply actions 21 recs
Somebody needs to put up the one with all the trolls dancing. I remember a person posting it after Fitch got KO’d
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 3:10 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
just saw Nick leave the event in the back
Seriously don't take me serious. Seriously....
by F.U.B.A.R on Feb 5, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
wow
wHat a sore loser
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by Bloodsport on Feb 5, 2012 12:56 AM EST via mobile reply actions
i dont know about thrilling
i can see how condit won but was not in his usual manner, been a while since i seen a fighter win by backing up all fight
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Its hard to win whilemoving backwards
That said, did enough to win two rounds, IMO.
I was surprised to hear he won the 1st or 2nd, only because he was so tentative and Diaz was controlling the fight.
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I can't believe Brent, who I usually agree with
and a lot of people here, who I also usually agree with, scored either of the first two, much less both of them, for Condit. I need to watch them again, because they were clear, clear Diaz rounds for me. Not all strikes are created equal, and countering a hard shot to the head that lands flush with a partially checked leg kick is not an equal exchange, not even close.
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by Dave Strummer on Feb 5, 2012 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
Amazing display of counter-punching by Condit. He was beating Diaz to the punch (and kick) every time.
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by andrew861 on Feb 5, 2012 12:57 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
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bad decision.
backpedaling and leg kicks. yawn.
The Swami has spoken.
by seminole_swami on Feb 5, 2012 12:58 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
you obviously didn't watch the fight
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 5, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 10 recs
i watched the whole fight.
backpedaling is not entertaining. I found the whole fight frustrating to watch. I almost stopped watching it during the 4th.
The Swami has spoken.
by seminole_swami on Feb 5, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
I imagine most Diaz fans found it frustrating that their favorite fighter couldn’t back up his claims of being the number one welterweight in the world.
It wasn’t true. It was never damn true.
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 5, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Eh
I’m a huge fan but it is what it is. Carlos won a well fought decision.
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by TheFilt on Feb 5, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If that's how Condit is going to fight then I am just THRILLED to see what he has in store for us next.
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by Doug Chu on Feb 5, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Do you guys making fun of Condits back-pedaling strategy also make fun of Jon Jones for doing it too? Or are you just butt hurt? It’s called movement and it’s been a key part of fighting since the dawn of time.
by MaximumWatermelon on Feb 5, 2012 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not even a diaz fan.
I just dont enjoy condits game plan. I dont like Cruz either for much the same reason. If you enjoy watching Kalib Starnes fight, more power to you.
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by seminole_swami on Feb 5, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Kalib ran.
Condit countered like a bawss. Huge difference.
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by kreally on Feb 5, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 10 recs
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by Ionnes on Feb 5, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
"Cage control" is a 2- way street.
Sure, Diaz was able to take the center of the octagon, but Condit was also able to move around him with ease the entire time. If you don’t think Carlos used the fighting space masterfully, you are a blind fool.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 3:14 AM EST up reply actions
I think you define control
as being able to be where you want to be, and your opponent where you want him to be. Carlos was not where Nick wanted him to be, and he was pretty much always where he wanted to be.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyrone Woodly fight.
by DankNabbot on Feb 5, 2012 3:28 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Exactly.
Nick backed Condit against the fence a few times, and I give him credit for that. I saw “Cage Control” as largely neutral in this fight (even though ultimately, I think it’s a stupid metric.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 3:50 AM EST up reply actions
condit put some miles on that bike
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by kellly on Feb 5, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
you continue to fail to grasp what makes people Nick Diaz fans
it’s not a belief that he’s the best in the world. It’s a love of his attitude and capacity for violence.
My enjoyment of him is undiminished. If he had gotten the decision, GSP would have surely beat him anyway, so it’s really probably a wash.
When and if he chooses to fight again, or box, or do full contact triathlons over on G4 or whatever, I’ll look forward to watching him again with the same anticipation.
And I should probably thank him and Condit for saving me the PPV money I won’t have to spend watching the 170 unification fight.
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by Dave Strummer on Feb 5, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
Backpedaling?
Maybe i misunderstand what back-pedalling is, to me that means that are being forced back by strikes either kicks punches knees, elbows, moving to put yourself in position so you have the upper hand is not back-pedalling to me
He did back pedal
and literally turned his back and ran at times.
Not saying he didn’t land strikes.
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Well
he was actually run away with his back turned at times… thats week
by Jason Robillard on Feb 5, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
Right, so you're just frustrated that Condit didn't stand in front of Diaz like every other fighter he's ever faced. Got it.
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by James Brady on Feb 5, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
its not even standing and trading.
there was very very little engagement. It was leg kicks, backpedaling, and running around the cage. Condit ran, diaz pressed.
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by seminole_swami on Feb 5, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
Very little engagement? Just because it’s not Diaz on Diaz hot flurry action doesn’t mean there’s very little engagement.
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there was very little engagement
Take off your condit glasses and watch the fight objectively.
The Swami has spoken.
by seminole_swami on Feb 5, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
I can honestly say 100% I am indomitable in my ability to not give an atom's worth of fuck for Carlos Condit.
I don’t think I’ve typed his name before today. There’s no Condit glasses.
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I am starting to get pissed
Look, Diaz could have won that fight easily. If he got that takedown about a minute and a half earlier, or if he showed a sense of fucking urgency, he had that fight. And if he was a little bit fucking smarter, he would have realized that his gameplan wasn’t gettting the results he wanted much earlier, and changed levels. I also love that he doesn’t get that, I get why we love Nick. But I am frustrated because in the minute he goes to the ground he’s in fantastic position and clearly dominant on the ground. He had back control with a lock on and he didn’’t finish it. He didn’t because he thought he was winning, so he coasted a bit. He himself said so. That fight was too close for him to be sure of winning, and he needs to learn from this. And he should have opened 5 with that takedown, and he would have won.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyrone Woodly fight.
Hopefully some of Nick Diaz’s fans retire with him. Condit put on a clinic and you should appreciate that. Oh, and you missed the headkicks, elbows, and beautiful combinations from Condit as well.
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by andrew861 on Feb 5, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 11 recs
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 5, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
Condit was the better man.
And he would be a solid favorite in a re-match.
by Charlie Custer on Feb 5, 2012 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
yes the running and back pedaling looked funny
but he was very effective and landed some solid shots. You see that head kick?
Yea that was a good one
There were some good counters, but overall, the fight was boring. Would you rewatch it? If I could go tell myself not to watch it, I would.
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by seminole_swami on Feb 5, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
Not many times do you see a game plan executed 100% correctly
by Frank Lee on Feb 5, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If you love watching Jackson fighters, my hat's off to you
I wish I had your patience.
by Doug Chu on Feb 5, 2012 1:11 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah those Jackson fighters...
Who would ever enjoy watching Condit, Cerrone, Jones, etc. They’re simply bad and they should feel bad.
I consider him Tristar at this point. That is where he spends the vast majority of his time.
But I do love watching GSP fight for what it’s worth.
Well I'm glad you can enjoy that sort of wrestling style.
Going back to Condit, if this is how he’s going to fight from now on, then count me out.
by Doug Chu on Feb 5, 2012 1:23 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
First of all the fight wasn't bad, imo.
Second, there is no reason to assume that this will be his style from here on out. He was backing up and countering because Diaz goes forwards throwing far more intensely than anyone else. Usually Condit is the aggressor but this fight necessitated a different strategy. Condit has somewhere around a 93% finishing rate which is insanely high. If you’re even questioning if you will watch his next fight than please silently leave because the real fans are trying to enjoy a good fight.
Definitely would watch again
Carlos didn’t lose his mind in a frenzy like Nick’s usual opponents do. He worked just as hard as Nick to be very active over 25 minutes.
Bro, even Cecil Peoples acknowledged that Condit's low kicks were effective.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 3:11 AM EST up reply actions
Absolute brilliance from Condit
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 5, 2012 12:58 AM EST reply actions 17 recs
Seriously. To say otherwise is just ignorant.
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really? brilliance?
anderson against forrest was brilliance. this was a close fight that carlos seemingly came into with point fighting on his mind. im not trying to knock him by saying that. I think he edged it out (barely) and he is one of my favorite fighters but it just seemed really clear that he trained to nullify diaz’s attack more so than do heavy damage of his own, and there is nothing wrong with that. im just a little dissapointed by the fight and how condit backpedalled so much.
maybe that is because Diaz is a better fighter...
…compared to Condit, than Forrest was compared to Anderson?
by burakkuburain on Feb 5, 2012 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
good point.
people didnt reaLLY feel that way at the time though. believe it or not i was lookingat an old thread from this site from when silva vs james irvin was announced and about half the people commenting thought irvin would be able to ko Anderson.
how was anderson vs forrest brilliance?
Anderson=fast Forrest = slow. Anderson didn’t need a strategy other than"beat the shit out of this slow-ass fool!"
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyrone Woodly fight.
Condit looked ok and did well avoiding Diaz's strengths. He fought a good fight.
But that’s far from what I would call brilliance.
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by pdl on Feb 5, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
it's brilliant if you hate Nick Diaz
Otherwise it was pretty underwhelming. Good game plan I guess, but Condit isn’t Floyd Mayweather, and watching him try to impersonate him isn’t all that edifying.
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by Dave Strummer on Feb 5, 2012 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
I don't hate Nick Diaz-
in fact, I respect him so much, that when someone completely negates his aggressive, swarm- punching style, and hits him with all 8 points, I consider that a hell of a performance.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 3:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't get why you aren't pissed at Diaz
Not understanding what fight he was actually in. Because he could have easily won that fight if he went to the ground sooner, if he realized he needed another tactic. In the short time they were on the ground it was obvious that Nick was far above him skill-wise, and if he showed some urgency he had that choke too. I’m pissed he didn’t change levels sooner and get sub of the night.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyrone Woodly fight.
I’m not really mad at anyone. Going into this fight, I would have told you that Condit and Diaz were probably my two favorite 170 pounders in the UFC.
I don’t think that what Condit did was as good a strategy as people are making it out to be. You usually don’t win an MMA fight going backwards. You usually don’t win an MMA fight landing leg kicks (unless you buckle your opponent, which Condit didn’t). You usually lose an MMA fight if you’re getting your head snapped back by punches, and you aren’t doing the same to your opponent.
I was honestly a little stunned by the judging. I can see an argument for giving the last three rounds to Condit (it’s not an argument I agree with), but the number of people and judges, and folks here, who gave Condit 1 and or 2 just amazes me. I feel like we were watching different fights.
Ultimately, I was looking forward to this fight more than any fight since Belfort-Silva or Diaz-Daley, and unlike those fights, it really didn’t live up to my lofty expectations.
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by Dave Strummer on Feb 5, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Giving Condit #2 is crazy, agreed, but Fightmetric has Condit winning #1 somthing like 68-56 (close, but a Condit win).
Does it really ‘amaze’ you when someone gives Condit round #1? Maybe you just think that Diaz took a really close one.
I just don't see the strikes in #1 as equivocal
leg kicks are like body shots. You put them in the bank for later, but you don’t necessarily expect them to score huge points. In both 1 and 2, Nick landed barrages that clearly hurt Condit, and Condit didn’t do the same in return. When I’m scoring a fight, I’m looking at the quality of strikes, not the quantity, and I just thought Nick had the more meaningful offense.
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by Dave Strummer on Feb 5, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Was it as entertaining as we thought it would be? No
Was it effective? Yes
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effective and brilliant aren't synonyms.
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by Dave Strummer on Feb 5, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
Following a gameplan
Not getting suckered into a brawl by Nick Diaz taunting. It’s pretty brilliant since nobody has done it before.
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not getting suckered into a brawl is not "brilliant"
his kicks were really really good, his gameplan was good albeit boring, but brilliant? i dunno it just seemed like a normal kinda performance to me, werdum put on a more brilliant fight than he did. people (me being one of them) are over reacting to this fight, they are either pissed that condit won or thrilled that diaz lost, i dont see the brilliance though. i see a good gameplan from a good fighter
Think of it like this
I say brilliant because nobody was able to pull of a gameplan like this against Diaz. Condit could and did it really well. I say brilliant because nobody else was able to do it.
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It's brilliant because
a) no one’s done it before,
b) it required impeccable cardio and self-control, and
c) if Condit ever messed up once and lost his cool, or got trapped, or tired himself out, he would have been dunzo. He had to stick flawlessly to his plan in the heat of the moment, in the face of taunts.
by James Kimbell on Feb 5, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
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by Ionnes on Feb 5, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
GSP is going to wreck Mr. Condit.
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by Tim Bernier on Feb 5, 2012 12:58 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
I sense a wrestlefucking upcoming
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 5, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it will be a scramble fest.
No matter the outcome, Condit will make Georges have to FIGHT. I actually think that Diaz is a harder style matchup for GSP.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 3:18 AM EST up reply actions
well yeah
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 5, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
After watching tonight, it didn't matter who won, because neither man had anything that could even remotely threaten GSP.
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Condit has a chance
Especially with GSP’s injury. But not much
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by sitnam90 on Feb 5, 2012 1:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
stupid statement
diaz and condit have nothing that can threaten GSp? have u ever been in a fight of any sort? did u see diaz’s hands tonight? condits kicks? GSP is human. when was the last time gsp fought someone like diaz (never, no one even close to diaz’s style) when was the last time gsp has fought someone like condit? Alves? GSP is a GREAT fighter but so is nick and so i carlos. Matt Serra knocked out gsp for gods sake.
Well,
GSP will take it to the ground. And in the short time they spent there tonight, Diaz was far better. I thought there was some exposure here.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyrone Woodly fight.
yea but after that showing, Nick didnt stand a chance at not getting his feelings hurt by GSP
Seriously don't take me serious. Seriously....
Most likely.
I think it will be interesting to see how the knee injury affects his level changing. People joke about Gurgel’s propensity to stand and bang, but he does it because he doesn’t have the knees to shoot anymore.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 3:17 AM EST up reply actions
Queue the outrage that Condit "ran" the whole time. What I saw was a man who executed the perfect game plan tonight.
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by pud333 on Feb 5, 2012 12:58 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
This so fucking hard.
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 5, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
ditto
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 5, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Haha, well said my man
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 3:18 AM EST up reply actions
they drive the same car, too
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 5, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well if anyone wasn’t aware of it before, Nick is a vagina. His post fight speech really pissed me off.
by savik on Feb 5, 2012 12:59 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
Yeah
It had moments but was far from thrilling.
Carlos did a great job of sticking to a game plan but he literally turned his back and ran at least 10 times.
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49-46 seemed like the clear score. Nick can say he was landing baby shots, but baby shots are better than no shots at all. Nick comes off as a really sore loser as well.
by KeVbK on Feb 5, 2012 12:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Carlos figured him out. Where Nick’s other opponents backed against the cage and absorbed those high volumes of punches, Condit brilliantly ducked and weaved his way away, and Nick couldn’t land enough.
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by Tim Bernier on Feb 5, 2012 1:00 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
I was very, VERY impressed by how smart Condit fought
not every fight is a slobberknocker. He must have landed about 80 kicks. Very much looking forward to the fightmetric on this
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 5, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
This.
To be honest, I thought Cyborg figured Diaz out, then he gassed and got armbarred. Condit had his way with Diaz.
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Cyborg did the same thing
leg kick the shit out of Diaz and stay away from the cage. He then decided to get into Diaz’s guard and get submitted.
Exactly.
Nick backs you against the cage and then swarms. Condit refused to get into infighting, maintaining range and landing long strikes.
And those strikes were NASTY. Nick’s head is just made of granite. Anyone who calls that point fighting is seriously deluded.
I have yet to pick a fight right
….well a major one anyway. I should just bet the opposite of who I pick and I’ll clean up! I really wanted to see GSP-Diaz but I suppose its not to be…oh well
DIAZ is exposed. wow that was awesome, i lost points on that shit but Condit is a real martial artists. Read the Art of War in your down time Nick while hating your dad.
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LOL like the Art of War will magically transform you into some kind of inscrutable martial arts master with all the wisdom of the Orient.
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by Doug Chu on Feb 5, 2012 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
IT’S SARCASM. Do you think DIAZ evens reads? Really?
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by Jeremy Couturier on Feb 5, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
Can't remember the last time I SARCASTICALLY told someone to read a book.
I’m pretty sure the reason why you hate Diaz isn’t because he’s not a traditional intellecutal.
whoa, total kalib starnes flashback.
this was a shit fight to me. so disappointed. not that diaz lost but that the fight was a dud.
by babaoki on Feb 5, 2012 1:02 AM EST reply actions 10 recs
total kalib starnes flashback.
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 5, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions 18 recs
put that finger back in your ass. dude was running backwards the whole fight. it was not worthy of a belt.
by babaoki on Feb 5, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Kinda like this guy?
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 5, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
That's what I was telling my wife
who is pissed about the decision.
He got his Machida on.
On the bright side, we learned that Carlos was wrong. Nick will just walk through a shin to the head.
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I think Condit did alot more damage than Lyoto when he's in "Macheetah" mode
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 3:19 AM EST up reply actions
i like both machida and cruz, i am also a big fan of condit, usually. this fight was disappointing to say the least. i thought it was a toss up about who would win, but did not expect this at all. greg jackson is both a genius and an asshole.
by babaoki on Feb 5, 2012 1:11 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That comparison is an insult to Machida.
by GhostMilk on Feb 5, 2012 2:00 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Machida won the belt by stopping the champion.
His backing up is part of his style. He does the step back to his left thing then once his opponent follows he steps forward with a straight left or left kick, thats different then running from exchanges, you know what i mean. im not knocking condit but the way machida backs up during fights nd the way condit was in this fight are two fairly different things.
That was Condit's 2nd decision
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by wonderfulspam on Feb 5, 2012 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
But…
seriously, hold a while. I’m looking for a excuse here.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 5, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
sooo
condit is supposed to let Diaz trap him on the fence and dig to the body?
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Not worthy of a belt lol another diaz troll.
by youfailme91 on Feb 5, 2012 9:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Starnes lost 30-24 on one card, didn't he? This was nothing close to that
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Hate the fact a guy can get outlanded 51% to 32% on arm strikes and win because he landed 104 leg kicks that did nothing to stop his opponent.
by FlyByKnight on Feb 5, 2012 1:02 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
compustrike is kind of whack. waiting for fightmetric
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A. Leg Kicks Matter. B. Compustrike is well far from credible.
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by garik16 on Feb 5, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
?
I don’t get where you’re going with this.
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 5, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Are kicks supposed to be registered as less important strikes in your head or something? Little fun fact you probably don’t know.. the legs are stronger than the arms. They’re also harder to control and risk your balance when striking with them. Suck it up.
by MaximumWatermelon on Feb 5, 2012 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
i agree but thats just how mma is though
props tp condit for being able to get off so many kics though, that takes huge skill, didnt work so well for cerrone agaisnt nate.MMa judging is horribly basic, whenever i see a fight lie this and i try to figure out who the judges are going to give it to, i try to think of the fight in THE MOST BASIC FORM, i try to look at it like a person who has never seen an mma fight, seriously. I think this fight was a draw but i knew condit would get it bc of the fact that his kicks are more flashy and noticeable, alot of those punches diaz was landing were AMAZING, his hands looked good when he got on the inside,REALLY GOOD. this guys defisntely has the best boxing in mma, his punches are so straight and accurate, ive had 30 some amateur bxing fights and i can surely say diaz is improving immensely with his hands as is his brother. the way diaz was snapping condits head back was impressive. those are the shots that hurt, the accurate ones. I just knew that the judges wouldnt score them though (WHAT THE FUCK IS CECIL PEOPLES DOING JUDging A title fight in 2012 by the way). you see this alot in mma, noticeable visible things like takedowns and kicks score but body shots and inside fighting dont as much
Yeah, because your arms are so much more powerful than your legs!
Oh wait.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 3:21 AM EST up reply actions
Greg Jackson is ruining MMA
Carlos was on his bike tonight…GSP vs Condit…Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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by oousty on Feb 5, 2012 1:02 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
loololollololoolol
lol @ u
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 5, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
MJ
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by flyingkneetoface on Feb 5, 2012 2:28 AM EST up reply actions
A "thrilling affair"?
Must have missed that part.
You see the sour look on GSP’s face? I guess it’s some sort of justice that the Jackson Point Fighting System ended up coming back to bite him in the ass. Probably just watched an extra few million dollars in endorsements go down the drain. Diaz/GSP would’ve been off the charts in terms of hype and marketing.
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by a tommy point on Feb 5, 2012 1:02 AM EST reply actions 8 recs
You're a fool, because that should actually be a fantastic fight.
The grappling will be wild with scrambles and submission attempts, the striking will be dynamic.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 3:22 AM EST up reply actions
I predict a shitload of bannings tonight
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 5, 2012 1:03 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
I saw a few comments hidden already
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 5, 2012 2:36 AM EST up reply actions
I think Nick got robbed
Nick was pressuring the whole time. I gave 1, 2, and 5 to Nick, 4 to Condit, and third one was a draw.
I feel why Nick is so pissed. but retiring? really?
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by DK_Monster on Feb 5, 2012 1:03 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
i disagree
i had rounds 1 & 2 a draw. 3 & 4 were pretty clearly Condit, and Nick won the 5th.
regardless, Condit fought the perfect fight to stop Diaz.
Diaz was his usual classless self in the post-fight interview. good riddance.
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You must have been wearing your Nick Diaz goggles. Pretty much every fight source had Condit winning at least 3 rounds.
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by andrew861 on Feb 5, 2012 1:11 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i dont even like nick diaz that much
i always said that GSP would crush him like a bug
but i still think nick diaz won this fight.
oh and also i think as long as GSP’s knee is completely fine, Condit will get crushed too.
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by RUSHoverSPIDER on Feb 5, 2012 1:03 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Thrilling is a bit much
wasn’t a bad fight but wasn’t thrilling.
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Also,
10% chance Nick actually retires.
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This what I was afarid of. Condit fighting to out point Diaz.Diaz fights to finish and beat the other fighters. Really no signifigant damage landed by either fighter. The sub attenmpts at the end where was the closest either came to a finish.
Really no signifigant damage landed by either fighter.
You forgot the sarcasm font. Diaz looked like he was hiding grapefruits under his eyebrows.
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 5, 2012 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
What a great fight
Now how do you use the sarcasm font?
by Full Mount on Feb 5, 2012 1:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions
It's whatever, you know?
These guys wanna run away, lay on top, win on points or whatever. You just want to retreat and run away like a punk bitch and these judges think you’re doing good and shit. I don’t care about that bullshit. These judges you know, they don’t know what real fighting is like. They never fight in a real fight or take any Robbie Lawler punches. The judges just… uhhh, they…. they judge you on things like little bably taps and shit. I don’t do that, I don’t give a fuck, I fight because we’re fighting you know? Fuck all you motherfuckers.
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by pdl on Feb 5, 2012 1:04 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
Makes sense to me
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because some people paid to see a fight
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by kellly on Feb 5, 2012 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So he should have just stood there in the pocket and let Diaz work his game plan instead?
I don’t get what you want from Condit.
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it was totally smart
and to be clear: condit won, but that’s not what i was expecting when i had the butterflies during fighter intros
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To be honest
Neither was I. Which is why the way the fight unfolded was very surprising, yet still entertaining to me.
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it was entertaining in a cerebral way
bu it didn’t touch my v-spot
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There certainly was no "Wonderboy" head kick moment.
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It was alright but I would hardly call it thrilling or even a good fight……..
The fight was really close I thought 2nd round was even 1st and 5th to diaz vs 3rd and 4th to condit having said that Condit did his best machida impression but didnt land the type of damage that machida does in spurts when he is on his game.
by The_Devil_You_Know on Feb 5, 2012 1:05 AM EST reply actions
I know it was the same idea
but I’ve never seen Machida turn his back and run halfway across the octagon to avoid his opponent.
Hardly a thrilling fight??
You say this:
It was alright but I would hardly call it thrilling or even a good fight……..
But then say this:
The fight was really close I thought
Wouldn’t that have made it a “thrilling fight”?? or a “good fight”….I want DIAZ v GSP as well but c’mon son! Condit was hitting him and escaping those classic Diaz traps
If you want to act like Anderson Silva for 2 rounds,
You gotta pull off that submission at the end!
by RicketyCricket on Feb 5, 2012 1:05 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Carlos won round 3 and 4
That’s it.
Diaz 48-47
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by zzwab on Feb 5, 2012 1:05 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
Is that you, Cesar!?
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 3:23 AM EST up reply actions
I'm depressed now
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by mollcutpurse on Feb 5, 2012 1:05 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
That head kick he landed would of finished most.
by RUSHoverSPIDER on Feb 5, 2012 1:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions
What exactly were people[s expectations of Nick, I wonder, that they are bashing him now that he lost and rage quit?
This is Nick being Nick. Who knows if it’ll stick, but it is troubling how many dickish people act the moment they can.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 5, 2012 1:07 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah he's just being a baby. He's not going to really retire.
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Even more reason to think he's an aspie.
I do hope he stays retired, though. He’s not happy during this grind.
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where was the cesar gracie jj
Nick Diaz needs to fit the mma game. showing off his jj too late.
he also needs to stop bitchin
by higgledy-piggledy on Feb 5, 2012 1:07 AM EST reply actions
Condit refused to play diaz’s game, and Diaz never chose to use his bjj, so he lost. God forbid he face a dominant wrestler, like oh GSP. It’s MIXED MARTIAL ARTS. question is if nick decided to become one.
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by Jeremy Couturier on Feb 5, 2012 1:08 AM EST reply actions
JUST BLEED RARRRR!
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 5, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
Fuck You Nick.
If you won I would have gotten every fight right on playground and gotten a score of 102 or more.
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I wanted Diaz to win
But Condit had the better gameplan. Sucks that I sacrificed 3 hours watching a relatively boring PPV when I should have been studying
let's hope he shows up to the post-fight press conference
the fight may have been boring, but I doubt the presser would be. but I’m not sure he’ll show.
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Condit used a brilliant gameplan and got the win, but it wasn’t like he fucking LnP’d Nick or anything. Condit fought Nick and landed more and often harder. Diaz couldn’t impose his gameplan on Condit. Sure, it may have been a more exciting fight if Diaz was able to get Condit up against the cage more and unload to his body and head and have him rocked, but that didn’t happen. It was STILL a good fight, they were getting after it.
I’m a big fan of both guys, but very disappointed in how Diaz handled himself in the post-fight speech. If he retires because of this, it’ll be a damn shame. Maybe if he wasn’t so averse to learning some wrestling, he would’ve been able to get the fight to the ground and tap Condit.
I don't remember Nick landing anything of substance
At least condit actually landed. You don’t win rounds by taunting.
by KeVbK on Feb 5, 2012 1:10 AM EST via mobile reply actions
but crossing my arms scores huge points with the judges
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 5, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
seriously?
you didnt see diaz rock condit multiple times? you didnt see him snap condits head back with accurate hard punches. you didnt see any of the body shots that bruised the whole side of cindits body?
by bert44 on Feb 5, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 5, 2012 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
I think
They were a British/India unit that fought the Japanese during WWII
by Crimson King 45 on Feb 5, 2012 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
There will no doubt be a rematch before the winner fights GSP so dont worry dudes! this fight will happen all over again!
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Why not just put Diaz up against Usain Bolt in a 100m race instead.
Same thing will happen there, too.
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by a tommy point on Feb 5, 2012 1:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you Tim Burke
This was a highly technical chess match at the top of the welterweight division. Those calling for a “snoozefest” between GSP and Condit are maniacs – Condit is the same guy that blitzed DHK and fought an epic was with Rory and had you all foaming at the mouth. He fought the perfect fight tonight. His gameplan against GSP will not resemble this at all…
by dancharleton on Feb 5, 2012 1:10 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
I think this is a closer fight than people think
People are either heavily biased for or against Diaz it seems.
I had round 1 a draw, round 2 for diaz, round 3 and 4 for condit and round 5 was close, was in condit’s favour until nick took his back for like a minute and had dominant position.
But I think it could go either way. I need to watch again. Condit had a great gameplan though. We saw what would happen if Condit chilled on the cage for a brief moment, and he avoided it very well.
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Well put
i give slight edge to diaz in round 1 even though not much happened because he was walking condit down. round 5 is also really tough to call. i bet that all the judges gave this round to diaz (mma judges always seem to give close rounds to the guy who gets a takedown even if he doesnt do much with it). It seemed like condit was in amazing shape and was starting to land some real nice shots in 4 and 5 but for the first 3 it seemed like he was honestly just trying to win a points game. it pains me to say that but i just cant deny it i mean when have we ever seen condit backpedal and run from exchanges like that
I had the same scorecard
But gave the fifth to Condit for being in control most of the round
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Hey fuck you Condit fans! How dare he incorporate leg kicks and counter punching into a well formulated gameplan and expose the holes in Diaz’s game. He should’ve stayed at the fence so Diaz could work his boxing . Nick is the greatest striker in MMA, he’s a cardio machine and a good person, and uh, he threw punches, and..kicks? Condit was just backing away the whole fight…Well fuck you all, but Diaz got robbed.
by savik on Feb 5, 2012 1:12 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Run forest, Run !!!
I though Condit was going to bring it… instead he ran the whole time.. what boring fight. How could anyone enjoy watching lay & pray or run away… there needs to be a penalty to turning your back and running away.
by Jason Robillard on Feb 5, 2012 1:12 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
i agree
In boxing you get disqualified for turning on your opponent.).Then again The last thing we need is another rule that refs would botch and create controversy. ive noticed recently how easily gusy can foul in mma fights and get away with it. case in point, bisping vs sonnen. that whole 1st round was FILTHY. Head butts, nut shots,cage holding, rabbit punches, i swear i even saw chael grab bispings nuts.
In boxing
Nick Diaz would also get out pointed by better boxers, who will apparently be told that they didn’t come to fight
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No
They would knock him out eventually. :P
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Well you know
They knocked me out and whatever but I came to fight he came to not get knocked out you know I’m sick of this shit, knocking out people is they wat you win in this sport it seems but whatever you know.
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This ain't boxing dude
You get dq’d for throwing kicks, elbows, takedowns, etc. So what? He moved out of certain danger (against the cage) into a better position and proceeded to outstrike Diaz.
You are pissed off that your boy Diaz lost? Sure. No need to discredit Condit because of it.
I can't believe I started to fall for Diaz again.
All that pre-fight talk about who he is made him sound awesome. Then he goes and says he’s going to retire after this and complains. Now I understand. It’s not just being wrestlefucked, it’s losing. He’s such a baby.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 5, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
i wouldn't call this a thrilling fight, nor a snoozefest
but it was compelling, because Condit was the first guy to really show how to beat Nick Diaz 2.0 … FWIW, i think Condit clearly won.
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by Fatty Fish Belly on Feb 5, 2012 1:12 AM EST reply actions
he's done with this MMA shit
just helping out his brother in the gym now
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by Fatty Fish Belly on Feb 5, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
Thrilling Affair?
really? condit backing up for 4 rounds and diaz taking his back for 30 seconds for all the foty talk that yaawnnn zzzzzzzzzzzz. Run Caleb Run! he thats greg jackson for you posioning the sport
by nickrodamous on Feb 5, 2012 1:12 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 5, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
Well…I’m on my phone so I’ll let you guys do damage
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Jon Snowden on his game
From twitter:
The UFC has built a fanbase by having guys who aren’t afraid to compete head to head. Carlos looked like a guy waiting for the cops to come.
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 5, 2012 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
This made me picture him trapped in some parallel dimension.
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by flyingkneetoface on Feb 5, 2012 2:32 AM EST up reply actions
The UFC established itself as a real sport
by including guys who win fights in ways that don’t inspire fans.
If you want pure head to head entertainment, go to the freaking WWE
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Yeah, I couldn’t believe he considered Bleacher Report greener pastures. Unfollowed him when the first link came out lol
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Snowden is on Bleacher Report now?
…that place is garbage. Such a waste of talent. He should come back to BE.
by av1o3 on Feb 5, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This
He was a fire starter.
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
Best comment threads ever
always made me laugh.
Yep
Good times. He took it well, too.
He actually has some serious writing skill and turns out the occasional great article as well as his flame posts.
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
Yeah, one of the worst sites on the net. I enjoyed his writing but I’ll never go there to read it.
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Good. RIDDANCE.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 3:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lol everyone is so mad…I thought pierce was the real robbery dammit
by Afrotikiman on Feb 5, 2012 1:15 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Good gameplan for Condit against the Diaz style of fighting. Sucks that he was just fighting to win the decision but still a good gameplan nonetheless. Not exactly the dogfight they made it out to be when hyping the fight. I could see how that would frustrate Nick but he was being a damn crybaby in the post-fight interview.
by capt insano on Feb 5, 2012 1:15 AM EST via mobile reply actions
official scorecard
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
by Tats16 on Feb 5, 2012 1:16 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Interesting....two judges had R3 to Diaz and R5 to Condit
The other judge had R2 and R5 to Diaz.
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Peoples and Jarman fucked it up
even though I think Nick Diaz won, I think I can agree with Kamijo’s decision.
but Peoples and Jarman literally fucked it up.
Matt "The Terror" Serra!!!!
I scored it 48-48
So I’m fine with the decision going either way.
I just wish that this notion of you can’t win a striking match while backpedaling would die a horrible death.
If Derek Jeter clubbed a baby seal on earth day while wearing a mink coat and crocodile skin boots while burning tires on an iceberg, the reaction would be "Its OK Derek, you’re a Yankee." -First mammal to wear pants
Well, we are seeing who the non Mma fans are in this thread if they are complaining about Conditions and him outstriking Diaz, or those who think diaz won. It may not have been fight of the year, but it was still a very compelling fight, and great job by Condit, who clearly won.
by Hardcharger on Feb 5, 2012 1:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I scored it 49-46, but you can make an argument that Diaz won
Only one round was pretty clearly one persons (R4 to Condit)
That said, you can tell the people who just enjoy brutality as opposed to fights by the ones who simply call what Condit did as running away.
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I had it 49-46 as well. Leg kicks count, just like body shot punches. Diaz was beieng a sore loser, and disingenuous.
by Hardcharger on Feb 5, 2012 1:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Carlos was running
Tactical running, but he was definitely running
by Full Mount on Feb 5, 2012 1:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
It's funny because Diaz fans might have some kind of leg to stand on (though I think Condit clearly won) if they actually used, you know, logical points.
Instead of going all Nick Diaz and just saying “HE RAN”
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Octagon control.
How much does it factor in? Condit never owned the ring. Not unless the number of laps counted.
John
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by Ionnes on Feb 5, 2012 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
Kaleb must have won his fight too then.
John
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by Ionnes on Feb 5, 2012 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
I think Diaz won rounds 1 and 2 by being a similarly effective striker while clearly more aggressive.
Diaz and Condit were fairly even in most judging categories but Diaz clearly took the “aggression” line, which is a scoring criterion. In round 5 he was simply more effective offensively, particularly grappling. Therefore I scored it 48-47 Diaz.
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by pdl on Feb 5, 2012 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting note on twitter
@bokamotoESPN Brett Okamoto
@lorenzofertitta told me GSP was upset and wanted him to make rematch but he said, “I can’t do that to Carlos.”
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by Tonley on Feb 5, 2012 1:21 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
The only counter to Diaz’s game is to wrestle him to the ground or do what Condit did.. it wasnt running it was not being caught against the cage where Diaz pushed him.. when they were in the center Condit was owning him
According to Compustrike
Condit outlanded Diaz 146 to 110.
Yeah, but he was totally running the whole time, right?!?!?!?
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 5, 2012 1:23 AM EST reply actions
Honestly though
if Diaz didn’t stop fighting to talk shit this fight would have been a lot closer.
If anything, Condit not responding made Nick fight stupid.
I can't wait to hear what a certain Diaz fan has to say.
Hashmo, wherever you are…
by lolumad on Feb 5, 2012 1:24 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
The JUST BLEED crowd comes to BE on fight weekends.
And make me lol in the comments. Really? Starnes.
by Sabate on Feb 5, 2012 1:24 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
BElitism shows it's horns
John
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~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~
by Ionnes on Feb 5, 2012 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
how about daniel cormier, hendo, duke roufus?
this idea that you’re a JUST BLEED fan if you’re nonplussed with this fight is buuuuuuuullshit
"EVERYTHING IS HAPPENING"
- Bob Cole
Well, we now see what Carlos is made of
Let’s see him outpoint GSP
by Full Mount on Feb 5, 2012 1:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions
i do think it will be closer than people think
the movement from carlos will help him in that fight, but he will not be able to kick like that against gsp.
he will have to use a different strategy than he used tonight. I’m guessing he will try to get back up immediately after being taken down or use his sweeps from the bottom. And on the feet he probably won’t run as much, as GSP doesn’t throw with as much volume.
Sigh
You just don’t understand how excited I was for this fight. Carlos fought a smart fight, but that was why I enjoyed watching him, he fought to finish. But tonight, not once did it look like he was trying to finish him, not even the headkicks or backfists. GSP is gonna easily decision him and I’m just not gonna care
by Full Mount on Feb 5, 2012 1:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Listen, you're right that you should prefer a fighter to go for a finish
But a fighter needs to be smart…..decisions happen because fighters find themselves in situations where they CANT go for a finish without putting themselves in a really dangerous situation.
The GSP Complaints are different – GSP outclasses all of his opponents, but is super duper risk averse that he doesn’t go for finishes. Here, Condit DIDNT have a big enough advantage over Diaz in order to allow him to go for a finish. It wasn’t possible.
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Lol
He never had a chance to finish him because he was using his “great movement” to avoid getting his back attached to a fence. I like to think that I’m a pretty good fan, and I enjoy all aspects of the sport even a good fitching. But dammit, if I want a little violence every now and then, I expect the guy with 26 out of 28 finishes vs Nick Diaz to deliver
by Full Mount on Feb 5, 2012 1:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’m happy for Condit. He had a great game plan and fought smart the whole way through. I’m just gutted that this fight didn’t live up to the hype. It never felt close to being finished. There was no danger. Nothing. Neither fighter looked closed to being hurt. It was just disappointing. This should’ve been FOTY. Ah well . . .
by Holls Hoyce on Feb 5, 2012 1:27 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
The only people that thought Diaz won at Bdubs
Were the wanna be gangsta kids who only paid attention to the main event and walked outside to smoke a blunt half way through the fight.
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by We All Hate Caleb on Feb 5, 2012 1:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Woah
I cut myself with your edgyness
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It was an easy joke
Not being defensive at all :)
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If you outwreslte Diaz you are a coward
If you outpoint Diaz you are a coward.
Basically, you should play to Diaz’ strengths to not be a coward.
Next time someone fights Clay Guida they should stay on their back because they should play to his strenghts or they are cowards.
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by IRodC on Feb 5, 2012 1:33 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yup. That's the bigger story.
Lost a potential million buy PPV tonight
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For now
If Dan Hardy could get a title shot, Nick can get one, too.
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
It is a shame
That people are happy with a Nick Diaz retirement. He is a great fighter.
Fightmetric would seemingly have it 48-47 Condit
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by garik16 on Feb 5, 2012 1:38 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yup.
Here’s their in-depth report:
http://blog.fightmetric.com/2012/02/condit-vs-diaz-official-ufc-statistics.html#more
Gave Condit the 1st, 3rd, and 4th
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by Tonley on Feb 5, 2012 1:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes!
Boy, am I glad I lost my bet on MMA Playground & Condit won! At most, Diaz won two rounds, even though I thought he lost four of ‘em to Condit…oh yeah, strategy wins the day! If Diaz does really retire, it’s a shame to see him and his brawling leave. I’ve always thought he was an entertaining fighter, but he’s at least publicly always portrayed himself as a representative of all that I stand against in our culture.
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Don't know if I can do this, sorry mods if you want to erase this you can
but here is my personal opinion on the whole thing.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/2/5/2772425/condits-masterful-gameplan
What’s up with everyone bitching about this fight being boring ? I understand when a guy lays on another guy for 5 rounds, but these two dudes went back and forth at each other for 5 rounds. Stop bitching just because no one got knocked out. Some of you don’t care for the strategic/sport aspect of mma and just want to see blood and knock outs. gtfo.
by MaximumWatermelon on Feb 5, 2012 1:47 AM EST reply actions
I didn’t care for a finish. Just the intent to finish. Just because some of us are disappointed in a fight that, on paper, was a FOTY candidate, doesn’t mean we don’t appreciate effective gameplans. I thought Condit did brilliantly and throughly deserved the win.
Carlos would have KO'd damn near anyone else
A couple of those kicks were hard and flush on the chin.
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
So you think that Condit didn’t have the intent to finish? Just because he didn’t finish him doesn’t mean he didn’t try.
by MaximumWatermelon on Feb 5, 2012 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
I will sit here and wait patiently for:
“Condit is boring”
“Damn that Champion producer Greg jackson”
“Kalib Kalib Kalib”
“Nick Diaz came to fight, Condit came for points”
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All these were already said
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
There's a lot of very unintelligent Diaz fans
Much like the fighter, they seem to whine a lot during a loss
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 5, 2012 1:52 AM EST up reply actions
It goes both ways
All you Diaz bitches need to shut the fuck up.
How does feel to know that y’all supported a whiney little crybaby bitch who’s a sore loser to boot.
Please flag him BTW.
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
Not saying there aren't dumbo fans on the other side of the fence
but it’s been a real treat to separate the actual MMA fans from the silly tough guy nonsense tonight. A good friend called me up 2 minutes after the fight and we had a great 15 minute discussion on what we thought happened. He scored it for Diaz, I clearly thought Condit won. But because both of us can hold intelligent discussions, we talked and heard what each other had to say. We’re both actual MMA fans, not whiny supporters of one guy or the other.
Now the first line from whoever that dude was, yes that gets flagged imo. I’m not a fan at all of Diaz’s I’m taking my ball and going home nonsense – much like the rest of what he says.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 5, 2012 2:35 AM EST up reply actions
This fight was for a fake title. An interim champ is like the stand in version of the real champion. Sucks because I bet Condit actuallt considers himself a real champion. Truth is he’s not because the recognized champ is GSP. Interim titles are like stickers for the kids who can’t color inside the lines like the two or three kids who can. It’s just….a wasted politically correct pat on the back.
It’s to crown who is the No. 2 guy in the division. If GSP is too hurt to come back, then he’s the No. 1 guy. It’s not the official title, but he is, right now, the best active fighter at WW.
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I hope tomorrow we have real football fans
saying that quarterbacks should stand there like a man and fling the ball as far as they can every time. None of this nonsense about going for variety and doing what counts toward gaining points and wins.
ahem
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 5, 2012 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
REX NEVER DIE
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Condit's Conditioning
Impressive… almost as much as his gameplan.
by MirCatOrgy on Feb 5, 2012 2:17 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Suck shit Diaz
Although i lost $160 on that fight its a price i am glad to pay to watch Diaz lose to Condit.
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by Chin Check on Feb 5, 2012 2:26 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dear fellow Diaz fans,
Condit outlanded and outsmarted Diaz. Deal with it. You’re making us look bad.
There's always money in the banana stand.
by awesomefightgreatjob on Feb 5, 2012 3:11 AM EST reply actions
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