UFC Hype Machine: Carlos Condit stands a chance against Nick Diaz
by Hashmo on Feb 3, 2012 10:06 AM EST
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God Bless the power of the UFC Hype Machine. We've been fooled again. Maybe not me, but enough of you that you think that Carlos Condit may actually get to fight GSP someday. Protip: He’s gonna get blown out of the water tomorrow night.
He hasn’t done anything to warrant the things people are saying about him. Somehow knocking out Dan Hardy and Dong Hyun Kim are substantial accomplishments? Barely scraping by Rory MacDonald and winning a split division over Jake Ellenberger are allegedly substantial accomplishments as well. Let’s not forget he lost to Martin Kampmann. Martin Fucking Kampmann. Yeah, that happened. Was it a close fight? Yeah. Did some people think he won? Yeah. But you forget, it was a close fight with Martin Fucking Kampmann, that’s a substantial accomplishment…
He has never fought anyone even close to the caliber of Nick Diaz. Nick Diaz is everything Carlos Condit wishes he was. He’s too fast, his cardio is too good and he is just hard as nails. It is now a five round fight and that’s something that should have Carlos shitting himself every step to the cage. Condit has literally no advantage. I don’t know where the myth that Condit has some unheralded knock out power and top 5 stand up came from. He’s never demonstrated that against anyone decent. This is literally on par when people were saying Dan Hardy could knock out GSP. It was just absurd then and it may be more absurd now because no one has ever knocked out Nick Diaz.
Nick Diaz crushed Paul Daley. That in itself is no accomplishment, but when you see that he stood and boxed with him, took his hardest shots and then knocked him out, that is a (not sarcastic) substantial accomplishment. The same Paul Daley who nearly decapitated Martin Kampmann. The same Martin Kampmann that beat your beloved Carlos Condit. I’m not a big supporter of MMA Math but when you look at this example it is as close to relevant as MMA Math can get.
While I still think some catastrophic event will always keep us from seeing the Nick Diaz vs Georges St. Pierre fight, it won’t be a loss to Carlos Condit.
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Condit is a legit contender, aside from the really close decision loss to Kampmann, he hasn’t lost for five and a half years. And whats wrong with Dong Hyun Kim?
Didn’t Diaz nearly get knocked out by Paul Daley? He is tough and Condit will struggle to knock him out, but it’s no Hardy vs GSP that’s for sure.
One thing I don't see many people discussing-
kicks. Condit throws gnarly round kicks- low, to the body, and up high. The way that Diaz plods forward, and loads so much weight onto his front leg, he is completely open to the low kicks (Cyborg Santos whacked him with several hard low kicks). Carlos does a fantastic job of using his teep to maintain distance, and has gnarly knees inside. He presents a much more multi- faceted attack than Diaz, and he’s every bit as much of the cardio freak, tough as nails, gritty fighter that Diaz is.
Cyborg stopped having success with the low kicks because his stamina started to wane. That shouldn’t be a problem for Condit, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he chopped down Nick’s legs for all 5 rounds.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 3, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
At the same time
Cyborg got tired because he is Cyborg (obviously) but Diaz was started to put a lot of combos together and was wearing him down.
by discoandherpes on Feb 3, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
For sure.
I just don’t think anyone has really sustained a focused leg attack on Nick, and I think Condit is a guy who could do that.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 4, 2012 2:27 AM EST up reply actions
Yup I agree
Diaz is going to have to pour it on like he has never done before if he doesn’t want to get blasted with leg kicks.
At the same time Cerrone tried to do the same to Nate, and that didn’t end well either.
by discoandherpes on Feb 4, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but Nate has never shown the kind of succeptibility to low kicks that Nick has.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 4, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
That's true
Nate is a bit more diverse than Nick defensively. He can check some kicks, and throws some of them as well. He also has some judo in the clinch. Just generally more well rounded.
by discoandherpes on Feb 4, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Not as potent offensively, though.
Nate is a motherfucker, but hasn’t reached the level of motherfuckeritude that Nick has. He’ll get there.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 4, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Condit had a lot of success before UFC
I don’t think losing to Martin Kampmann is all that bad, esp. in a UFC debut. in a world with quality judging, Diego Sanchez would’ve definitively lost to Martin. and guess who Diego defeated… none other than Nick Diaz. look no further than BJ/ Diego/ Nick to show mmath doesn’t work.
Diaz has had some more high profile wins but both guys have fought tough competition throughout their careers. Their records are about the same and both of them are very skilled and well-rounded with great finishing ability. On paper, this is by no means a blowout for Diaz.
I think Diaz will take it with durability and cardio, but I wouldn’t be surprised with either guy being victorious.
by lordrubbish on Feb 3, 2012 11:00 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
BJ/ Diego/ Nick is a perfect example of the paper/ rock/ scissors in MMA.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 3, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Although I think Diaz takes a rematch with Sanchez
Sanchez’s wrestling seems to be regressing.
by discoandherpes on Feb 3, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
He absolutely hustled Diaz the first time around,
but I agree that Sanchez’ takedowns haven’t improved much.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 4, 2012 2:28 AM EST up reply actions
I would like to see it though
Even though Diaz’s boxing has improved to the point he could light him up, Sanchez is one of the few guys that can match Diaz’s pace. I would love to see them in a five round fight.
by discoandherpes on Feb 4, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Diego is still a crazy motherfucker.
That would still be a helluva scrap.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 4, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with your basic point, that Diaz is the rightful favorite. Other than that, this is a mess.
You act like Kampmann is some kind of a joke, which is stupid. He’s a couple of horrible judging decisions away from title contention himself. Jake Shields was given a title shot after (arguably) losing to him.
How do you discredit a win over Rory McDonald, one of the hottest up and comers in the division who happened to toss the lesser Diaz around like a rag doll?
Dong Hyun Kim…what a can. Who DOESN’T beat him? Oh, yeah everyone not named Carlos Condit, that’s who.
Knocking out Dan Hardy. Hm, any fighters we know who couldn’t stop Dan Hardy? Oh…yeah…I can think of one. The champ himself GSFuckingP.
Diaz should be and is the favorite, but Condit is aggressive, well rounded, and has put a nice string of wins together.
I consider myself a softcore fan.
Not to mention Ellenberger...
is currently ranked #3 in the division coming off his destruction of Jake Shields. Martin Kampmann is currently ranked #10. Rory McDonald is at #13. If those guys aren’t good fighters then who is? Just St. Pierre and Diaz I suppose.
I heavily favor Diaz over Condit, but Condit is a legitimate contender who deserves to be in this position.
by BilboMcFonzie on Feb 3, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Strength of schedule is clearly in Condit’s favor, in my opinion. Beating up KJ Noons and Cyborg Santos is great for a young prospect trying to break into the big time… but it’s hardly the feather in your cap that guys like Stun Gun Kim and Jake Ellenberger are.
Still, this is a bad fight for Condit. His striking isn’t nearly in Diaz’s league and I don’t think his takedowns are going to get it done.
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
I agree- Condit has faced better opposition. I was skeptical of Diaz until he beat up Penn. Say what you will about Penn’s physical condition, but that was still impressive.
by BilboMcFonzie on Feb 3, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Condit has not faced better opposition
And the any decent opposition he has faced shows Condit is not ready to face Nick Diaz
Lets look at this since it’s the foundation of your argument. We can easily see the current consensus ranking of each man’s opponent for their last 5 fights… it’d be better to look at the rankings at the time of the fight, but I’m far too lazy for that:
Condit:
Don Hyun Kim – 27th
Dan Hardy – 30th
Rory McDonald – 13th
Jake Ellenberger – 3rd
Martin Kampmann – 10th
Diaz:
BJ Penn – 9th
Paul Daley – 22nd
Evangelista Santos – no votes
KJ Noons – no votes
Hyoto Sakurai – no votes
I personally think 27th is low for Kim considering his 6-1-1 record in the UFC… 9th for Penn is a stretch considering where he’s at in his career.
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
by Stanlee on Feb 3, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is looking at the ratings today though, really sways it
Ellenbergers first fight in the UFC was Condit
Rory had only fought once before Condit
Don Hyun Kim was probably much higher rated at the time of their fight though and Dan Hardy deserves to be unranked.
Diaz’s opponents were all rated higher at the time of the fights whether or not that was rightfully so but you’ve gotta look back at the time of the actual fights to get a more accurate picture
Yep. Another example of stats being useless.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
i honestly think this is a very evenly matched fight between two top 5 fighters
both deserve to be int he position they are in and this will be a war!
Yep,
throw some raw meat in the cage, lock it up and let’s do this!!! War Condit!
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure I’d say looking at the rankings going into the fight is “more accurate” because I do think it’s important to note that Condit has opponents that have gone on to prove themselves as legitimate players in the division. Diaz’s opponents will probably never get near a relevant fight ever again.
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
Condit has the best finish rate there is.
Chael Sonnen has finished 1 of his 14 UFC & WEC fights.
by sexysassytravismmafan on Feb 3, 2012 11:10 AM EST reply actions
He has looked stellar against less than stellar competition
Anyone decent he’s faced has beaten him or he barely scraped by them
Diaz has looked great against terrible competition. He’s been smart to avoid decent competition so he never has to look off his game. If only a prepared BJ Penn had showed up against Diaz…
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
by Stanlee on Feb 3, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A prepared BJ Penn
Would still have gotten punched in the face a zillion times.
by discoandherpes on Feb 3, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not a matter of BJ being prepared
It’s a matter of BJ being a natural lightweight, and having little business at 170 other than beating Matt Hughes, and giving the rest of the top Welter’s a good run for their money.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 3, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, he showed up rather unprepared for his last two fights at LW as well… I still think a Marinovich-trained Penn destroys Edgar every time. 170 exacerbates the problem because he clearly had to hit the gym a few times to make 155.
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
In my personal opinion,
I don’t agree with the popular opinion that BJ fired Marv because he’s lazy. I think BJ looked great for the 1 year stretch where he trained with MM, but Marinovich has a history of overtraining himself and others to their physical and professional detriment.
Notice how BJ has the knee sleeve on in the 1’st fight with Edgar, whereas he hadn’t had any troubles with that knee for a long time. I think that Marv worked BJ very very hard, and BJ looked great for the Diego & Florian fights, but that pace wasn’t sustainable, and I think it hastened the end of Penn’s athletic prime.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 3, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Every guy he fought in the UFC is at least “decent.”
Chael Sonnen has finished 1 of his 14 UFC & WEC fights.
by sexysassytravismmafan on Feb 3, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Whereas Diaz has mastered the likes of Scott Smith,
old Frank Shamrock, Evangelista Santos and Thomas Denny.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Let's ignore him knocking out Daley and beating the shit out of Penn
by discoandherpes on Feb 3, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Sure.
As long as we’re ignoring Ellenberger, McDonald, Kampmann (IMO), telling ourselves that Stun Gun is a complete bum, and just chanting BJ Penn!! Nick beat BJ Penn!!
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not an idiot
I don’t take anything away from Condit’s wins, but lets not do the same to Diaz either.
by discoandherpes on Feb 3, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
I don't. I think they're perfectly matched, love both of them,
and have been begging for this fight for years. These two guys have ridden parallel tracks to this point. So many similarities, even if they’re tactically quite different. I just think the premise of this post is thoroughly stupid.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
He outboxed Paul Daley and Crush BJ Penn
His last actual loss was in 2006 to a Sean Sherk on steroids
Say what you will about most of who he has fought and lost to but he has evolved far more in the past 5 years than Carlos Condit has in 3
Loss in quotes. I thought it was a very clear 29-28 for Diaz
by discoandherpes on Feb 3, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I'll give you that loss in quotes.
I thought he beat Sherk, and I thought Carlos beat Kampmann.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Sherk had the key to beating Diaz in the first
Coming forward and throwing three to five punch combos. He could keep it up because he slowed down trying to take Diaz down and getting stuffed over and over.
by discoandherpes on Feb 3, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Funny how you can evolve more in 5 years, than in 3.
Carlos only loss in that time was to Kampmann, in a split decision classic. Martin had an extra choke attempt, Carlos dominated him standing. I thought Carlos clearly won, but so it goes, and Kampmann is a better fighter than anyone Nick has faced, including BJ’s miserable shadow of the past year or two. Since that time, I’d say Carlos is the one who’s improved the most, his boxing, Muay Thai and BJJ have all looked to be advancing a lot since his return to Jackson’s. You can talk this shit about him all you want to, but it makes no sense. Just trying to make yourself feel better about tomorrow night? It’s true, Nick Diaz has beaten BJ Penn, Carlos hasn’t, but of course that’s all Nick’s fault anyway:)
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Nick has completely dominated and outclassed everyone he faced
Carlos struggled with Rory MacDonald, “beat” Jake Ellenberger and the only guys he outclassed are equal at best to the bums that you discredit Diaz from beating.
It is undeniable. The opposition Nick Diaz has faced and his performances against them make him look like he is a league ahead of Carlos Condit. Just wait until tomorrow night and you’ll understand.
Paul Daley dropped him repeatedly all in one round,
but didn’t have the ground game to handle him there. Nick hasn’t fought anyone who could wrestle, or had a good ground game at all in that time. You have your opinion, I think it’s silly, and fair enough. These guys are evenly matched, one of them is going to come out ahead, and it’s liable to be the best fight we see all year. Nick has done nothing to make me think he’s more than slightly better than Carlos, and only because his dumbass behavior cost Carlos the same opportunity. To say he’s a league ahead of Carlos just diminishes this fight, and is utterly wrong. But yep, the great thing is we’ll see tomorrow.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
If Carlos could wrestle he might have this
I expect a great fight though, because Nick Diaz chooses the path of most resistance and because of that we’re gonna get an exciting fight where they stand in the pocket and trade
But the numbers and history say that Nick Diaz will come out on top.
This is MMA and anything can happen but I am confident he would be able to maul him.
Your "numbers and history" are imaginary.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Give me a break.
What’s Diaz’ BABIP? Where’s his red zone defense stats? Ah, those are stats from sports where stats matter!
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
So do we just ignore numbers when they don't read how we like?
One day someone will write a book about takedownmetrics and a movie called “wrestlingball” will be made about how a coach teaches a fighter to just score enough takedowns to win enough rounds will be made
I didn't ignore them,
but it’s your own fantasy to think they mean anything. I can interpret them to mean that Nick punches like a ten-year-old, that Carlos is much better on the ground (more subs), and that Carlos’ strikes to stoppage ratio is infinitely better than Nick’s. Plus, by rankings Nick has fought no one in comparison to Carlos. So now you’re convinced that this post is ludicrous garbage and that Nick is about to get KTFO?
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Show me the book.
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Draft #: 69--The magic number.
Yes you'd make a lousy teacher,
what with the illogical madness and all…
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
It is weird that he assumes that both guys have been measured with the same stick.
You just can’t draw those kinds of comparisons in MMA, unlike other sports.
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Draft #: 69--The magic number.
Yeah there's no analysis,
but oh well, it’s fun to make ridiculous claims with no argument, I don’t blame him. If we’re being trolled, it feels alright:)
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Listen I'm not straight up trolling
I believe what I’m saying to a reasonable degree.
This is MMA, anything can happen, but I am very confident that tomorrow Nick Diaz will make a very bizarre victory speech and we’ll get to see that chubby guy with the white hair doing the “raise the roof” thing in the background.
Listen I'm not straight up trolling
I believe what I’m saying to a reasonable degree.
This is MMA, anything can happen, but I am very confident that tomorrow Nick Diaz will make a very bizarre victory speech and we’ll get to see that chubby guy with the white hair doing the “raise the roof” thing in the background.
The problem is that your conclusions are not reasonable.
Even in the event that Nick won, it won’t be b/c you happened to call it correct based on those stats.
Nick and Carlos haven’t been measured using the same criteria. No matter how good Nick really is, he hasn’t faced the kind of challenges that Carlos has.
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I know you believe it,
I just don’t think the stats you quoted make up a logic argument for Nick. The fact that he whooped BJ’s ass that badly is really the only difference between his and Carlos’ careers, and Nick robbed Carlos of that fight, which Carlos would’ve won, by his jackass behavior. If you can’t see this as a razor thin matchup, you’re willfully blinding yourself, but it’s not a crime, and I’m not mad at ya’. If I was betting, I’d bet on Nick, because I don’t think anyone but GSP can win a decision against him. However, Carlos is gonna stop him late in the second:)
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Nick didn't rob anyone of anything.
It’s been Zuffa all along who have been dangling the carrot for Carlos to jump at, but it is never high enough.
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I was kidding more or less.
And Carlos has actually had a pretty straightforward trajectory to this. If he’d got the decision against Kampmann, he probably would’ve been one fight from a title shot, at most.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
I just wanna see a good, technical fight. But if it devolves into a brawl i won't complain.
But I think we all know what Carlos is gonna do: paw at him with a boxing jab and see how far he can get with it to see if he can build some good distance—if he can’t, he will shoot for the takedown sooner than later and try his luck there.
If BJ could take him down, with that strength of his, I’m sure Carlos would’ve though “Yep. I know I can get it done.”
If his shit works right, he may try mixing it up, but if it does but only to a stunted degree, then, I’m not sure everything will be conductive to a fun fight. For all we know, Carlos could just lay Nick on his back for five rounds but not do enough after that given the latter’s Jitz.
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You shut your dirty whore mouth!
If this devolves into a lay and pray fight I will renounce my MMA fandom forever! Seriously, I think Carlos is going to fight at kicking range and in the clinch, trust his counterpunching to keep Nick off of him and probably go for a takedown only if he’s rocked, or in Jacksonian style in the last ten seconds of rounds. But he’ll throw the kitchen sink at him. I doubt he can dominate Nick on the ground for any length of time, and Nick’s striking volume would make me real nervous about going to a decision. Look for those leg kicks, clinch knees and elbows.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
But...Nick is made of pure, unfiltered Honey Badger.
Honey badgers don’t give a shit. they eat snakes!
Carlos is toast and you know it!
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by Unabomberman on Feb 3, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Haha.
If Nick wants to keep pawing at him, Carlos needs to just catch that hand and put a flying knee into his elbow! Or just catch Nick’s right and hockey fight him, I’ll take Carlos in that situation:)
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, it's coming to me...
Carlos Condit via flying armbar, round one!!!
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, man.
Nick by spinning gogoplata.
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And when Carlos taps,
Nick slowly exhales the giant toke he’s been holding the entire round, and the smoke cloud forms the message “209”.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
See?
It all makes perfect sense, now.
On an odd side note: Have you seen Nick’s youtube channel?
http://www.youtube.com/user/NickDiaz209
There’s a video of him scaling a tree to down a coconut. Dude ain’t playing.
Carlos is toast.
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Ahh, yes,
the BJ Penn Hawaiian vacation workout program. Impressive.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
I know, right?
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Draft #: 69--The magic number.
If it works for the Poi Wonder,
I bet Nick can climb trees until they’re worn smooth.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Actually looks like it'd be great for your guard.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
And also,
after looking through a bunch of this awesomeness, how have I missed Nick’s YouTube channel??? I’ve seen some things elsewhere, but I feel like much of my life has been wasted elsewhere…
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Nick has some pretty rad music taste.
And a lot of appreciation for Pat Condell, from what I can gather.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
His youtube channel also has message like this one:
JENNY86NY (1 hour ago) Spam
NICK BABY YOU GOTTA STOP LICKING YOUR LIPS LIKE THAT IT MAKES ME WET EVERY TIME YOU DO THAT.
Pure awesome.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 3, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahahaha, I'd be curious to see what Nick's working with,
what’s the pick of the 209 look like?
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
What do you mean by 'the pick of the 209'?
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I mean Stockton girls.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Ah. Who knows.
Nick seems like a super awkward fellow, so who knows how his game is, or how he goes about getting his picks. That he fights and wins should be enough to get him laid at parties, though.
But, again, he is super awkward.
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Screwed
He didn’t get KTFO but he just got screwed out of a win by the 3 blind mice. 49-46 on two cards? What a joke! I’ll give Condit’s cardio credit tho…had to be in shape to run away from Diaz for 5 rounds.
Nick was the one running,
only it was punches and kicks he ran into, and being a simple, one-dimensional moron, couldn’t make any adjustements, and got busted up the whole fight. But thanks for posting. Seeing how pathetically butthurt you all are makes this even more fun!!!
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 5, 2012 5:39 AM EST up reply actions
I'll give you my fantasy analysis if you'd like.
One of these guys was born to break the other’s unbreakable chin. Someone is getting knocked out here, and Carlos has far more KO power, just as tested a chin, and yet has taken way less damage. Nick is going to sleep, second round.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I hope not 'cause I'm rooting for Nick.
But Mr. hashmo is way off base when he claims to know what will happen in the future (not to mention his shoddy stats interpretation).
I can see Condit KTFO-ing Nick if he GnP’s him like I know he can, just like I can see Nick KTFO-ing Carlos at any point during the fight if he rushes him successfully.
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Honestly,
if this goes to a decision, it’s Nick’s just due to output. My problem is that Nick vs. GSP will be so much fun, and I’m a Diaz fan as well. But that fight isn’t the one I’ve looked forward to forever, this one is. I’ve followed both these guys as champs of the other orgs., hoping they’d find their way to the top of the UFC eventually and the greatest fight in MMA history would thus occur. I can’t really lose, regardless of who wins. But I gotta root for Carlos here. I’m just so thankful and fired up beyond belief, and Hashmo’s nonsense ain’t fadin’ me (God bless you psychoblack!)
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Haha.
I hear you, but I’m hoping for a Nick Diaz bumrush.
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If it goes down like that,
it’ll be worth it just to see if Dana lets GSP in the cage, or if they fear an “incident”. Haha, this is going to be a fucking great weekend.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
In my ideal world
Nick and Nate are both UFC champions and Dana White hangs his head wondering where he went wrong
If that happens,
it’ll be entertaining beyond our capacity to appreciate it.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
That is my ideal world too.
But I cn’t claim to know it will happen.
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Not to mention that you do Shonie Carter wrong with that comparison sir!
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Dan Hardy is on par with Shonie Carter and Alex Cacares
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 3, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
This times 1000
Seriously, that comparison is fucking retarded. Shonie is a legend because of his personality, but was never better than mid tier. Cacares is an okay prospect at bantamweight, who has lost a lot of fights due to poor discipline. Dan Hardy is an upper level gatekeeper who’s on a bad slide. Nothing that has come out of Hashmo in this entire damn thread has made an ounce of sense.
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 3, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Condit has had 0 fights against less than stellar competition in the UFC
Kampmann is a very talented guy who’s been on the wrong end of some terrible judges decisions but is still a borderline top ten guy. Ellenberger is a top 5 guy with serious power and excellent wrestling who everyone knew was going to be a legit contender one day. Rory McDonald was an undefeated prospect who is currently a borderline top ten guy who (barring a career-ending injury) will be a legit contender one day. Dan Hardy was ranked top 5 IIRC when they fought, and is still a mid-tier guy in the division. Dong Hyun Kim was also a good prospect with an undefeated record. Diaz will most likely win, and most likely will win badly, but stop acting like Condit is some shit fighter who’s only ever fought cans!
Troll Job
Condit has fought much better competition in the past few years……much better. Diaz is the favorite and rightfully so but to treat Condit the way you do in this article makes you look incredible stupid so once again I say TROLL
by 1N87 on Feb 3, 2012 11:12 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
Nick Diaz brutalized BJ Penn
Name one fighter Condit faced even close to the caliber of BJ PENN
Protip: You cannot.
you’re right, it’s just so obvious that washed up BJ would beat Kampman, Ellenberger, and Kim. Get a grip brohamlin.
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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 3, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
And you know this how?
Dud you measure BJ Penn in his worst day? Nope. You did not.
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SCIENCE!
I keed. I keed.
Don’t quit your day job.
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Well, then, keep at it.
But leave the stats interpretation to someone else. Your method is not logical, and you shouldn’t those conclusions based on that particular pool of data.
if we can say anything is that everything is undecided.
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**shouldn't draw those conclusions**
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No one cares about stats until they put a firm opinion behind it
Saying “That guy makes X amount of dollars” compared to saying “That guy makes too much fucking money!”
My analysis may be weak but I have to make it interesting by putting my (un)educated opinion behind it
Wrong.
Stats are very specific shit so long that you use the proper method to acquire the necessary pool of data, And in this case, both methods of acquiring both pools of data (Nick’s and Carlos’s) were completely different.
Nick’s output was what it was b/c it was possible for him to do it under the circumstances where he competed. Carlos, on the other hand, couldn’t. And then, they didn’t even take into account the particular styles of the fighters they’ve been competing against.
Nick has barely been fighting top lever wrestlers, but Carlos has. While we can make guesses, we can’t say with any degree of certainty what is most likely to happen, in this case.
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well Penn hasn't been at his best for a while and it was at 170.
I know Nate/Nick aren’t the same guys but Nate lost to Kim, MacDonald while Condit stopped them both. Ellenberger is a legitimate contender also and Condit beat him.
I just think Condit resume is a lot better if you compare the last 5.
It is, even if it's unintentional.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
The BJ that fought Diaz would get his ass handed to him by ellenberger and rory macdonald IMO. Rory Macdonald is going to be smashing dudes for a long time, you will see
by 1N87 on Feb 3, 2012 9:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hashmo, put everything you have on Nick Diaz if you’re this confident.
Chael Sonnen has finished 1 of his 14 UFC & WEC fights.
by sexysassytravismmafan on Feb 3, 2012 11:34 AM EST reply actions
Yeah right
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 3, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
I may be a troll, but I don't lie
I’m honestly too much of a pussy to bet online. I am scared even if I win I’ll never get to withdraw my money.
Good thing you’re a pussy. (typed Sunday afternoon)
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by sexysassytravismmafan on Feb 5, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Haha, this piece was clearly not meant to taken seriously.
Until Nick beat BJ, he’d fought no one, and an unmotivated T-Rex armed (at WW) BJ ain’t impressing me this much either. Nick and Carlos are evenly matched at worst, and the truth is Carlos has fought the better competition. Nick has been protected from anyone who might be able to take him down. And Carlos beat Martin Kampmann, one more guillotine attempt isn’t enough to make up for getting badly outstruck the entire fight, which Martin was. Someone is losing their unbreakable chin here, and I think it’s gonna be Nick’s. Everyone wants Nick to win so bad and fight GSP, that you’ve lost your damn minds.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 11:39 AM EST reply actions
You act like Condit has been fighting for MFC not the UFC haha..
I like Nick Diaz, in fact he’s one of my favorite fighters, but Condit actually deserves to be here (fighting for the UFC championship) as much or more than Diaz does. And I think that Condit is gonna win this fight.
That’s just my opinion, like the above is just your opinion, but at least I’m realistic. I think it’s going to be an epic battle, maybe even one of the best fights of all time. You on the other hand, for some strange reason, made this fanpost basically hating on everything Condit has ever done.
One way or another I’m gonna have a smile on my face after seeing this fight because I know that it’s gonna be a war. But I’m gonna have a much bigger smile if (when?) Condit wins cause then all the “Nick Diaz is the greatest fighter ever” people will have to eat their words..
As am I.
I just expect disappointment year in and year out. No matter how good it looks they’re gonna fuck it up some how.
I really thought they had it this year
I was too optimistic in the Pre-season. Damn that Vick for giving me hope.
Do you really thnk Los os going to fight the same way BJ , Daley, Santos or Noons? Appearently you do. Protip: He wont. He’s going to be on his bike looking for the points of engagements that he wants. You’re not going to see Nick land his 3,4,5 punch combos. Los will be in and out and will land the harder shots guaranteed. I can’t promise a win but I can promise a close fight that prob goes the distance. BJ wnet full 3 rounds despite the fact he was moving about as fast as a punching bag. Noons went the full 5 rounds in their last fight ( what happened in their 1st fight?), but people still insist that Diaz will stop Carlos in the 2nd or 3rd. Protip: Those people are fucking stupid.
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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 3, 2012 11:57 AM EST reply actions
“Do you really think (Car)Los is….
someday i’ll learn to proof read.
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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 3, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
In their first fight Nick Diaz won the first round but his scar tissue caused a cut to open up
Thank you for revealing you are great at reading Wikipedia articles.
Nick won that round? are you really an idiot or just play one on BE?
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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 3, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Arguing with Hashmo is like playing chess with a pigeon.
by lolumad on Feb 3, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
a waste of time leaving me a mess to clean up. Sounds about right.
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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 3, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Are you fucking blind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W-yicG3f77M#!
Watch the fight
Diaz didn’t stop moving forward. He got takedowns, he landed more. He won that round.
knee landing flush plus dropping nick wiht a straight right > nick’s 1 (that’s right, 1) takedown.
I’ll defend nick form bashers all day and would love to ride some single track with him but this is a bit out of hand.
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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 3, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
the only troll here is you
You’ve only made an ad hominem attack and commented on my grammar fail above. You’ve got nothing my son.
Technically I wasn’t arguing with you, just pointing out that you were being quite silly. An ad hominem attack would be me bringing your character into question to discredit your argument, when in fact I was doing so merely because I think you’re a buffoon.
Also, drawing attention to your complete refusal to engage in any reasonable discussion would not actually be considered an ad hominem, because it’s relevant to the discussion at hand.
I have addressed every point worth addressing
Continue your ad hominem attacks, at least we both agree Diaz will demo Condit
This post is pretty asshole-ish
You’ve made your point that you believe Diaz is a significant favorite, but but you sound like a dipshit when you try so hard to discredit Condit’s accomplishments. Anyone who writes in such an abrasive tone about being so preposterously assured about the outcome of an MMA fight should probably refrain from writing them in the future.
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I'm not trying to say Carlos Condit is a bad person
But as a fighter he isn’t ready to fight a guy like Nick Diaz. They’re leading a lamb to the slaughterhouse here. The UFC Hype Machine is putting his future and livelihood at risk to generate PPV revenue by making you think “this guy could win a world title!”
I never said that you said that he was a bad person. This fight just doesn’t appear to me to be the glaring mismatch you try to make it out to be.
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Prophetic words.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 5:43 AM EST up reply actions
Remember a #1 Contender named Dan Hardy?
He was once a man with a bright future
Then they ruined his life by putting him into a title shot against GSP far too early in his career.
He hasn’t been the same since and out of pity they keep him employed
If anyone ruined Hardy's career, it was Condit
Hardy was cheerfully upbeat that he was able to go all 5 rounds with GSP. He claimed to have “learned a lot” and would “come back better,” etc. Then het got KTFO’d by none other than Condit, who he seemed more than certain he would walk through. I’m pretty sure a devastating KO will ruin a man’s career far more than 5 rounds of getting humped.
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
Have you ever been forcibly humped by a man for 25 minutes?
Didn’t think so…
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I've never been devastatingly knocked out either
but if I had a choice, I’d take the humping.
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
I dunno which is worse, to be honest.
If you get KTFO’d you can keep telling yourself over and over again “I got caught.” But when you get humped non-stop by a tattooed, sweaty, bald french canadian, there is little comfort you can offer yourself.
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I see your point
but the reverse is also true. If you get humped for 25 minutes you can always tell yourself “whatever man, that guy is a wrestler and a point fighter, I came to fight and he made it boring.” Hardy talked a ton of shit in the lead-up to the Condit fight, and he was supremely confident that he would wreck Carlos standing. And he got KTFO’d in devastating fashion. IMHO, I think that is more mentally damaging.
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May be my own bias talking...
But that terrifies me.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 3, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Flipper? RAPIST!!! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 3, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Jesus christ. Thank goodness he wasn’t in the water when that happened.
Share for share, share alike, you'll get struck each time I strike.
Uh...
And…how do you know this?
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by Unabomberman on Feb 3, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Dolphins are very humanlike
They have sex for fun, show random acts of kindness by saving people from sharks, and like to rape things.
It’s odd how similar we are to them.
by discoandherpes on Feb 4, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
“The UFC Hype Machine is putting his future and livelihood at risk to generate PPV revenue bymaking you think "this guy could win a world title!"promoting fights in the first place, because anyone who steps into a cage is risking his future and livelihood.”
There you go.
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by mburtoni on Feb 3, 2012 3:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
...
Ahoy-hoy.
Last round pick of the Filipino Reccing Machines
by Sugel Mendoza on Feb 3, 2012 4:36 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
MMAth works
JDS>Werdum>Gonzaga>Cro Cop
I found one that works! Woot woot.
Fuck this gay earth
I am done being am mma fan. This is the last hashmo post you’ll see
by Hashmo on Feb 5, 2012 1:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
Haha! Are you ragequitting just like your boy Nick?
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 5, 2012 3:53 AM EST up reply actions
This one's for you buddy.
Na na na na.
Na na na na!
Hey hey hey!
GOODBYE!
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 5, 2012 5:19 AM EST up reply actions
Hashmo.
He has never fought anyone even close to the caliber of Nick Diaz. Nick Diaz is everything Carlos Condit wishes he was. He’s too fast, his cardio is too good and he is just hard as nails. It is now a five round fight and that’s something that should have Carlos shitting himself every step to the cage. Condit has literally no advantage. I don’t know where the myth that Condit has some unheralded knock out power and top 5 stand up came from. He’s never demonstrated that against anyone decent. This is literally on par when people were saying Dan Hardy could knock out GSP. It was just absurd then and it may be more absurd now because no one has ever knocked out Nick Diaz.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 5, 2012 2:30 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
LAWL
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All in the game yo, all in the game
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