UFC 143 Judo Chop: Carlos Condit Lands A Flying Knee KO
There's something great about a flying KO. Flying kick, superman punch, jumping elbow - they are all glorious. But for me the quintessential flying KO move for MMA remains the flying knee. There's no shortage of flying knee KO highlights in MMA, but one of the best comes from UFC 143 headliner Carlos Condit. The last time we saw Condit in the Octagon, he was standing over the prone body of Dong Hyun Kim - the victim of a nasty Condit flying knee at UFC 132.
In this Judo Chop, we'll get ready for UFC 143 and Carlos Condit vs. Nick Diaz by breaking down Condit's big KO over Kim and see how Condit's technique compares to other famous flying knees. And don't forget to take a look at the other side of this weekend's main event with Kid Nate's Judo Chop covering Nick Diaz's boxing and grappling techniques.
Let's start by examining the basics of the flying knee. There are a number of different variations on this move depending on which leg you strike with, where you position your hands, and the direction your movement travels in. For example, kickboxer Chris Ngimbi is well known for his beautiful flying knees, which he often delivers by jumping straight up, bringing his knee up like an uppercut. But the most common kind of flying knee seen in MMA is the one essentially used by Condit.
Assuming a fighter is standing in orthodox stance (meaning his right leg is in the rear power position), start by jumping both up and towards your opponent in a sort of diagonal. In mid-air, bring that right leg forward, with your foot aiming down and your knee in the lead. If you time it right, you'll drive the point of your knee into your target - ideally your opponent's chin. It's a great move because it quickly closes the distance, so can land from what your opponent perceives to be outside of striking range, and because the knee is such a hard striking surface. By giving it that forward and upwards momentum and driving all of your momentum into the point of your knee, you can easily score a KO if landed clean.
Here's a somewhat goofy video explanation courtesy of Human Weapon (why do the models have to be naked?) that captures the basic idea:
More breakdown, with gifs, in the full entry.
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There are tons of examples I could use of this basic flying knee (and if you want to see gifs of many of them, check out this great gallery at Chicago's MMA). Above is one prime example from Pride 32. This is Robbie Lawler landing the knee of Joey Villasenor. Lawler is fighting in southpaw stance, but the movements are the same. At the start, his left leg is back - he then leaps forward, bringing the left knee up as he jumps, driving it into Villasenor's head. The result is a KO victory for Lawler and a spot on highlight reels.
Against Kim, Condit took this basic flying knee and added a small, but beautiful variation. Like Lawler, Condit is in southpaw, with his left leg back. He jumps up, and initially brings his left knee up to land the knee in the more traditional style. But at the last moment, he switches in mid-air, bringing the right knee up instead. It's an absolutely devastating change that really shows off Condit's technique. By switching in mid-air, he gets even more momentum behind that right knee, landing it with KO force. This switch also allows Condit to land the knee clean. Note that Kim is throwing a punch on Condit's left side and turning his head away - had Condit stayed with the left knee, the strike would have been at least partially blocked. But Kim's strike leaves his own left completely exposed, and that is where Condit lands. Beautiful adjustment there.
A quick side note on Condit's stance - Condit will switch stances, but is primarily an orthodox striker, meaning his right leg would be back. Against Kim, who is a southpaw, Condit switched stances frequently. He was in southpaw at the time he threw the knee.
There's one other important aspect of this strike that we have only touched on, and that is hand positioning. If you compare the Lawler and Condit gifs, you'll notice that their hands are in very different places. Lawler brings his down to his sides. Again, this is more traditional, and when you see images of a flying knee, the hands are usually down and back in this position. The idea is that this motion gives you more power in your jump, which translates to more power in your knee. But there is a decided danger in this move, as it takes your hands away from your head and leaves the head exposed. A skilled opponent can capitalize on that opening to land a hard counter - as famously shown by Fedor Emelianenko vs. Andrei Arlovski (right). Arlovski went for the knee, dropped his hands like Lawler, and Fedor put him out.
Condit takes a different approach with his hands that is often used in Muay Thai. As he jumps, he brings his hands up, and in fact slides his left hand around to the back of Kim's head (notice how at the end, his left is fully behind Kim). I prefer this movement as it serves a number of purposes. First, it keeps your own hands near your head, which helps to protect you from being Arlovski-d.

Second, if timed right, you can use that hand behind your opponent's head to pull his head down into your flying knee. This is a great asset, as the impact of the knee is significantly increased if you combine your upward motion with a downward motion from your opponent. You can get that downward motion by timing the strike to land as your opponent comes in (as you see in this gif of Anderson Silva KO-ing Carlos Newton in Pride), or by pulling his head down yourself. Finally, if you don't get the KO, this hand position puts you in a better position when you land. With his hand behind Kim's head, Condit could have immediately grabbed the Thai clinch and started throwing knees from the ground.
With his use of the double knee, as well as his hand positioning, Condit demonstrated not only that this is an effective technique, but also that he has the high level skills to masterfully pull it off. At UFC 134, we'll see how well he can use those skills against Nick Diaz as he fights for the UFC Interim Welterweight title.
And finally, since we're talking about flying knees and Condit's technique of switching knees mid-air, I feel compelled to leave you with this - Jose Aldo's classic double knee KO of Cub Swanson. Enjoy:
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Sandman FTW!
That was probably his most glorious moment.
I consider myself a softcore fan.
The funniest thing about that KO
is that I’m pretty sure the impact of Irvin’s knee triggered his reflex, and caused his leg to flail like it does afterwards.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 3, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
The best part of that KO is that it came after 5 solid minutes of snuggling by Martin.
I was so bummed out after watching the first round of that fight. I was anticipating 10 more minutes of Martin spooning with Irvin and was planning on using the second round as a piss break / beer run, then the Sandman delivers the monster KO out of nowhere to start the round. I was a happy camper.
Pure speculation on my part,
that’s just what it looks like to me.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 3, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Condit's KO was sweet
but that Aldo double flying knee is still the coolest strike I’ve ever seen landed and that includes the showtime kick
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by POW on Feb 3, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
That is a great one indeed. A shame the UFC never got to see Kid at his best.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 3, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Truth, however
I would argue that the bigger tragedy is that due to matchmaking, the state of the lower weight divisions at the time, and his back and forth flirtations with returning to wrestling, we never really got to see the full extent of Kid’s potential. Had he been consistently fighting the best of the best, at say, FW, I believe he would be universally regarded as one of the best P4P fighters in modern MMA history.
Much of his resume is unfortunately filled with MMA neophytes (Valente Yasuhiro, and Nurantungalag in a row, all in their first MMA fight is just ridiculous, and I think he has 5 wins over guys who were in their first fight) or against lightweights who looked gigantic next to him, who he generally still beat.
As far as talent and athletic ability go, there aren’t too many guys in MMA history who can match what Kid brings to the table.
Also, it’s worth pointing out to anyone who has never seen this before, that gif starts at the beginning of the fight. That’s the entire thing – one knee, one punch. Amazing.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 3, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
This one
And the six second Rumina Sato fight are pantheon-level highlights.
by WheelieMonkey on Feb 3, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Too bad you can't wear Aasics in the Octagon.
I remember someone making an interesting point a while back about Munoz- perhaps a contributing factor to how so many of his takedowns fall short is that he still trains in wrestling shoes, and is used to the extra bit of driving force they give him at the end of his shot.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 3, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A fair point
But every guy who came up through amateur wrestling did so in shoes, and they all have to make the transition to working barefoot in MMA. Obviously some guys and some styles are going to adapt differently then others, but this applies across the board, and not just to Munoz.
that's what he's saying though
Munoz still trains with the shoes, he never really tried to make the transition
Sorry Elliot and Cunny
I misread Elliot’s post. You’re completely right, that could absolutely have an impact. My apologies.
That's the real crux-
he STILL trains in wrestling shoes. I don’t think fighters should ever train in shoes, with the exception of their S&C programs. And even then, I think they should be wearing bare- foot style shoes as much as possible in those situations (which more and more fighters seem to be doing).
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 3, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
I misread the “still” in your first post.
Generally seems like a poor idea to not be putting yourself in a situation as close to what you’re going to be facing in the cage as possible. Obviously, footwear is a relatively smaller piece of the puzzle, but if someone said “I do all my MMA grappling training in a GI” or “I do all my MMA striking training in 16 oz boxing gloves,” everyone would immediately think it a bad idea.
Yeah, that was a great point.
If you’re not fighting in shoes, you shouldn’t do your grappling training in shoes either.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 3, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Love me some flying knees.
However there’s one flying move we’re all forgetting and I hope to see Kongo destroyed by the Flying Butt Drop!!! That would be a judo chop for the ages.
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I'm sorry to nitpick but in traditional super samoan-jitsu the proper name of this technique is Atomic Butt Drop.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 3, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Hunto no longer weighs enough to smash atoms with his flying butt attack.
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by menckenstein on Feb 3, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
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by DamnSevern on Feb 3, 2012 11:58 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
JZ was such an animal
Real shame what his injuries have done to him over the years.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 3, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Someone put up....
The Alves vs Hughes knee KO, that one was sweet
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Tremendous knee.
Side note, it always looked to me like the brunt of this caught Hughes’ shoulder/torso, and that not much if any impact went to the head. I think Hughes had just been worn out by Alves’ assault, and this knocked most of the last of the wind out of him.
See the camera angle behind Hughes in the 1'st gif
You can really see his head snap back from the knee in that one. The knee definitely rocked his world.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 3, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
His head certainly moves from the impact
However, look at where Alves’ left knee is lined up, and how the bulk of the force of the impact seems to ripple back through Hughes’ right shoulder blade, which seems to be driven back by the force. If it did connect with his head, it certainly seems to hit his shoulder/chest first.
I’m not Matt Hughes or Thiago Alves though, and the angles aren’t that conclusive, so I’m just making my best estimate. It’s a huge blow either way.
The knee definitely made contact with the shoulder first,
but the momentum from Alves’ knee was still enough when it hit Hughes’ head, that it was still enough to knock Matt down.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 3, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Condit's flying knee is great
but considering Nick’s reach & movement, and the fact he never goes for a take down it’s not likely he’ll have a chance to use it. Thai clinch knee is more likely if he can get close.
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You can launch one of those from pretty far outside the pocket.
It helps if you can cut your opponent off and get his back to the cage.
not MMA, but still awesome, and pretty recent

Noiri KO’ing Urabe at KRUSH 14
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Does this one count??

Hate how the gif has the knee strike in like the 2nd frame of the GIF. Either way…
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