UFC On Fuel Fight Card: Nogueira vs. Gustafsson
by Tim Burke on Feb 20, 2012 8:45 PM EST
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Alexander Gustafsson (13-1) vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (20-5)
Alessio Sakara (15-8, 1 NC) vs. Brian Stann (11-4)
Siyar Bahadurzada (20-4-1) vs. Paulo Thiago (14-3)
DaMarques Johnson (16-9) vs. John Maguire (17-3)
Damacio Page (12-6) vs. Brad Pickett (20-6)
Diego Nunes (17-2) vs. Dennis Siver (19-8)
Jason Young (8-5) vs. Eric Wisely (19-7)
Papy Abedi (8-1) vs. James Head (7-2)
Yoislandy Izquierdo (6-0) vs. Reza Madadi (11-2)
Cyrille Diabate (17-8) vs. Jorgen Kruth (5-0)
Francis Carmont (17-7) vs. Magnus Cedenblad (10-3)
Simeon Thoresen (16-2-1) vs. Besam Yousef (6-0)
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Very good card, although DeMarques has no place on a main card
Over Page/Pickett and Siver/Nunes.
I sense a lot of knockouts on this show. Stann is going to pound Sakara out.
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by SSreporters on Feb 20, 2012 8:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Definitely think Siver/Nunes deserves main card.
Don’t know what they’re thinking.
by The Armchair Juggernaut on Feb 20, 2012 8:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don’t forget guys, the last Fuel card only had four main card fights until the week of the show when they bumped up the final two. I suspect Page/Pickett and Nunes/Siver will get promoted up last minute too.
by exzacht on Feb 20, 2012 8:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The only reason they got promoted is they wanted as many fights to show
On the free preview as possible.
Unless there’s another one if there’s 4 fights I suspect that’s what we’ll get.
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by SSreporters on Feb 20, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Also, don't sleep on Jason Young being a decent prospect at 145
Definitely think he’ll beat Wisely, and he’s very fun to watch.
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He had a good showing against Poirier,
And that’s saying something. He’s had a tough schedule though.
by The Armchair Juggernaut on Feb 20, 2012 8:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Glad to see this guy back in action
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What the Hell was that choke even called?
Looks to me like a front-facing modified darse choke.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Feb 20, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
It's a basic darce choke
Thiago used a pretty common setup to it. When the bottom player in half-guard works for an underhook to work to sweep or reverse the position, it puts him in a position to get choked however.
by dreamers_12345 on Feb 21, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
If anyone complains about this card, I’ll probably explode. It’s a fun card and the ratings probably aren’t as important as the fact that the UFC is going to a new country.
This post is inspired by stuff I saw on another forum. People were unanimously bashing the FX 2 card :( the words “atrocious” and “nobody cares about flyweights” were used, along with Johnson being the most boring fighter in the UFC.
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by Tim Bernier on Feb 20, 2012 8:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This seems a lot like a boxing style of profitability, and a good use of Fuel.
It’s a debut in a new territory that sold out the gate nearly instantly. The gate receipts should more than cover the payouts to fighters as well as most expenses. Factor the in ring sponsorship and license money from Fuel, it’s easily turning a profit on it’s own.
But it also has a lot of fighters that hardcore fans want to see. Semi-casual fans have started noticing Gustafsson as a guy who punches people in the head really hard until they fall down. Brian Stann is a known name (although no draw, he’s well known) thanks to his exciting KOs and getting tons of screen time lately. Every hardcore fan loves Paulo Thiago and the extra hardcores know Siyar is fun as hell. It’s a great card to make fanatics call up their provider and say “start offering Fuel or I’m finding somebody who does.” And that’s the point of having fights on Fuel.
Good work, UFC folks.
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by discoandherpes on Feb 20, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
It's a Fuel card
So I’m assuming big ratings aren’t what they are having in mind…
Fuel cards are just places where guys can get on ‘a main card’ and in ‘a main event’ before graduating to a ‘real’ show on FX, PPV, or maybe even Fox.
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by Chris Groves on Feb 20, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Stoked to see Stann back in action!
The Mauler is going to make a statement.
by The Armchair Juggernaut on Feb 20, 2012 8:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Free Dennis Siver!
I dig this card, but are we really gonna NOT watch Nunes vs Siver in favor of a guy who got worked by Amir Sadolla? That be crazy, mon.
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Prelims will still be aired on fuel
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by Chris Hall on Feb 20, 2012 9:39 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
BUT NOBODY GETS FUEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 20, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Your tears are delicious.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 20, 2012 9:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i get fuel
all these other guys need to step it up!
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 20, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
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by Chris Hall on Feb 20, 2012 9:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Prelims are on on Facebook. The whole card would be on Fuel then. : )
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Won’t they do the majority of Prelims on fuel like they did last week tho?
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by Chris Hall on Feb 20, 2012 9:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
This is a Fuel card. They had 6 main card fights, and the rest on facebook.
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Then how many were on fb?
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by Chris Hall on Feb 20, 2012 9:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Three. Would have been 4 but Loeffler got hurt.
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Gotcha. Here’s hoping they add a few to the main again, then.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 20, 2012 9:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Um, aren't Fuel prelims usually put on Facebook? Like last time?
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by Chris Groves on Feb 20, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Good card for Fuel
I really hope Gustafsson beats little Nog and does it in dominating fashion. I think he is skilled enough to be a top 10 LHW. His lost to Davis really opened his eye’s. If he wins i wouldn’t mind seeing him face Machida next. If Little Nog wins then i think he should face Shogun. Brian Stann vs Sakara makes no sense. I think Okami vs Stann would have made more sense.
What you going to do when you know who? How you going to deal with the man of steel? And how will you react to Sonnen's attack?
I can't name ten LHWs I'd rank above Gustafsson right now.
Jones, Rashad, Rampage, Shogun, Hendo, Davis… and who else? Lyoto maybe but he’s on an awful skid. Forrest hasn’t done anything noteworthy in a good while. Maybe Lil Nog is still above him somehow? Certainly none of the guys in Strikeforce have a better resume.
Honest question… can you name 10 guys who deserve to be ahead of him at light heavyweight?
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Forrest and Lyoto deserve to be ahead of him right now. His best wins are still Vladdy and Hamill. I’d have Thiago Silva ahead of him too. He’s at 10 for me.
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I drop guys from my rankings if they are suspended until they fight again, so no Silva.
And if I did include him, his only wins in the past four years are Kieth Jardine and Antonio Mendes. Also rank on a 3 year window with the 4th year kinda mattering but not as much. Forrest’s wins are a washed up Ortiz and an aging, small (but still crafty and tough) Rich Franklin by decision. Gustafsson finished Hamill, which Rampage couldn’t do a few months earlier, and finished Vladdy better than anybody not named Jon Jones. I still have Lyoto above him but he hasn’t looked good for two years and it’s hard to ignore the skid.
And before you ask, I do factor in some subjectivity based on observation. Finishes matter more than close decisions. Phil Davis clearly taking a decision against Lil Nog matters more than Bader eeking one out that could have gone either way. I also do allow a bit of room for hindsight when I look at a fighters resume. Good example: Luiz Cane beating Steve Cantwell… who gives a shit? Who else even remembers that fight happened?
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Yeah, true enough about Silva.
But finishes don’t matter to me. Forrest is ahead of him for being Franklin and Ortiz.
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The Ortiz win means just short of nothing.
I… had a joke here that I’ll hold off on. But beating Tito Ortiz in 2009 doesn’t mean much. Especially without a finish or looking particularly impressive, although he did own the third against a gassed, irrelevant shell of a fighter.
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Well, Thiago Silva has 0 wins over current UFC fighters
No one in the top 20 in the last few years.
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by SSreporters on Feb 20, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
My LHW top 10 list
1. Jon Jones
2. Rashad Evans
3. Dan Henderson
4. Shogun
5. Rampage
6. Machida
7. Phil Davis
8. Gustafsson
9. Gegard Mousasi
10. Thiago Silva
I did not put Little nog in the top ten because he lost to Jason Brilz, Ryan bader got beat by Tito, and Rafael Cavalcante because I believe Gust, Silva, and Gegard can beat him.
What you going to do when you know who? How you going to deal with the man of steel? And how will you react to Sonnen's attack?
There isn't a single fight for Yushin Okami that would be fan-friendly at MW right now
by SSreporters on Feb 20, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
But the fight makes sense
Stann needs to prove his takedown defense is improved, and Okami needs to prove that he is one of the top MW in the division. Also Okami lost in the title fight, and Stann just lost to the number 1 contender.
What you going to do when you know who? How you going to deal with the man of steel? And how will you react to Sonnen's attack?
It makes sense
But it’s pretty obvious they want Okami and Stann to get back in the win column before they even think about contending again.
Stann vs. Sakara is a joke fight, but clearly they want Stann to get an impressive KO and build him back up.
MW is a really bad division. I think they need their best fighters to not be on two-fight losing streaks.
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by SSreporters on Feb 20, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
the fuck is the Johnson fight doing on the main card?
What a high potential violence quotient this card has…
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by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 20, 2012 8:56 PM EST reply actions
EXPLOSIVE something
Fun Fact: Johnson is the only stoppage win for Matt Riddle, only stoppage win for Amir Sadollah post-TUF, and only UFC win for James Wilks…and obviously a stoppage.
TUF 9 was bad enough that if they called that show off I’d have no complaints.
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by SSreporters on Feb 20, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Fuel
Nobody gets that piece of crap fuel – look at the ratings! twice as many people were watching all free fights on spike the last go around. Either get crappy fuel to the mainstream, switch the channel for your ufc contract or we’ll just watch other sports. Nobody cares that I just said that but I feel better now.
I get fuel
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by Chris Hall on Feb 20, 2012 9:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The point of being on Fuel isn't to help the UFC,
it’s to help FOX. This deal is a two-way street, they put it on Fuel so more people would want it.
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by Sugel Mendoza on Feb 20, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Mark those words.
By the end of the seven-year deal, Fuel subscriptions will increase by at least 50%.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Feb 20, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
I hope they increase
by more than just 18 million
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!!!
by Andy Anderson on Feb 20, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
is this Siyar dude any good ?
never seen him in action.
Violent kickboxer. Might have trouble on the ground though.
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would you say, a potential....
WW contender, or just someone like hardy, middle of the pack ?
I hear he’s a pretty good prospect. throwing him to the wolves with Thiago a little I think. He don’ mess around
It's about god damn time that Thiago is the one who is the wolf
Because they purposely try to give him the hardest schedule in the history of the UFC.
Koscheck, Fitch, Volkmann (was supposed to be Thiago Alves), Swick, Kampmann, Sanchez, David Mitchell (was supposed to be Johny Hendricks on an earlier card), Siyar (was supposed to be Mike Pyle).
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by SSreporters on Feb 20, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol, no kidding...
strikers cant catch a break in that div.
For those curious, it seems that Mike Goldberg and not Jon Anik will be working this card due to scheduling issues for Anik.
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by Kevin Jennison J. Zametov-St Pierre on Feb 20, 2012 11:54 PM EST reply actions
About half good there..
Goldberg/Florian has the potential to make me want to core my eardrums out with a spoon. Rogan/Anik on the other hand, has legitimate potential.
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And what about Stann vs. Sakara?
What do you think of that fight?
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Who stole Sivers' picture?!
It’s not lsike it’s his debut… Nice card overal btw!
by Vetr on Feb 21, 2012 6:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
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