UFC On Fox 3 Fight Card Shaping Up
by Tim Burke on Feb 19, 2012 8:00 PM EST
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Nate Diaz (15-7) vs. Jim Miller (21-3)
Josh Koscheck (17-5) vs. Johny Hendricks (12-1)
Alan Belcher (17-6) vs. Rousimar Palhares (14-3)
Pat Barry (7-4) vs. Lavar Johnson (16-5)
Tony Ferguson (13-2) vs. Dennis Hallman (51-14-2, 1 NC)
John Dodson (12-5) vs. Darren Uyenoyama (7-3)
John Hathaway (15-1) vs. Pascal Krauss (10-0)
Danny Castillo (13-4) vs. John Cholish (8-1)
Pablo Garza (11-2) vs. Dennis Bermudez (7-3)
Nick Denis (11-2) vs. Johnny Bedford (18-9-1)
Mike Massenzio (13-6) vs. Karlos Vemola (8-2)
Louis Gaudinot (5-2) vs. John Lineker (19-5)
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I feel like Belcher is going to be suffering from a knee injury after this fight
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by Chris Hall on Feb 19, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
that's right.
Make no mistake about it people. Palhares is the main event here. All other people might as well not show up.
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by SheepleBuster on Feb 19, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
somehow...I actually agree with you on something...
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We agree on a lot of things Chris
You just don’t want to admit it. I understand :D
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by SheepleBuster on Feb 19, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
lol
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 19, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Love the new avatar MDH
That is all
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by hardlyworking on Feb 20, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
thanks
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 20, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
If he's smart
He’ll have a staph infection a month or so.
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 19, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
I had staph this summer.
True story. Ate a tiny hole into my bicep. Have a few scars. Imma badass.
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He says he's ok
financially, too.
I think he’s just trying to stave off any pity, though. He’s a proud man.
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Yeah, hopefully Zuffa gave him some help outside of the insurance plan.
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He says they did right by him
I believe it. From what I’ve seen, there are some very decent people at Zuffa.
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i dont
belcher is gonna put pallhares to sleep
dan miller nearly did
Paul still thought he'd won
Was goin’ in for a hug, got punched in the face. As long as he doesn’t try to hug Alan…
by WheelieMonkey on Feb 19, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Have you *seen* Alan Belcher?
Not hugging that man is going to be one tall order.
by Bloody L on Feb 20, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Real talk.
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by NickRingp4pGOAT on Feb 21, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
This card is sickkkk.
Call a doctor.
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by Dustin Luff on Feb 19, 2012 8:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Great card
Made better by the fact that its free.
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by RandyCouture'sDivorceLawyer on Feb 19, 2012 8:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
They need a Main Event
Diaz vs Miller is not a main event I would expect for a fox card.
by evenflow10 on Feb 19, 2012 8:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Isn't it a number 1 contender bout ?
Not bad for a free card.
I really doubt as we go that UFC on Fox main cards will start to resemble PPV less and less
that being said, these are four pretty good fights with some good names and everyone is coming off wins or a on a streak.
Easily
We don’t agree too often but this ME is 10x better at least.
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I agree,
I would prefer these two as a main event, not only because it’s an awesome fight, but also because I want fans to see how great these lighter weight classes are, and hopefully become more interested in them. I want these glorious little bastards to make lots of green for all the great fights they put on.
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by Sugel Mendoza on Feb 19, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Let's be real here
as far as name recognition goes, this reeeeeaaaallly wouldn’t be a first choice, not to say there’s any fight that would be better on this card.
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A lot of people knew who Franklin and Shamrock are tho.
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by Chris Hall on Feb 20, 2012 3:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I believe they have changed there tune
Now its not all about promoting one guy as a draw, but the UFC in itself. Which I think is a smart idea. Let the fans decide who they wanna follow and just set up fantastic fights. Leaves more room to grow then putting all your eggs in the Brock Lesnar/GSP basket.
Best Fox card yet!
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by ANance on Feb 19, 2012 8:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Sincerely doubt it
I expect that the main card will go down to 3 fights it just hasnt been announced yet. Belcher/Palahres is most likely heading to FUEL TV.
before Barry/Johnson?
I sincerely hope not
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by Our Bovine Public on Feb 19, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Only hardcores are that excited about Belcher/Palhares and Barry/Johnson is that guarenteed slugfest that they need to open the show.
I get the stand and bang angle
But Palhares is bat shit crazy and is a real character that new fans could embrace. Plus this fight has more relevancy to its divison than Barry/Johson
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by Our Bovine Public on Feb 19, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
I think Palhares would be the champ after Anderson retires.
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by Sugel Mendoza on Feb 19, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldnt go that far
He still has serious problems in the stand up department but if he gets you to the ground…
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by Our Bovine Public on Feb 19, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
His stand up is pretty good
and getting better quickly.
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Here's the thing with Palhares
His Jiu-Jitsu is clearly not technical like Demian “Ernesto Hoost-level kickboxer” Maia. He fought a seasoned grappler like Jeremy Horn and didn’t finish him. Sure he slammed him 500 times but didn’t do enough to submit him.
I think on two occasions he had Dan Henderson in a leglock and finished neither. Henderson has excellent submission defense and has only tapped out to the Nogs and Anderson after he was rocked.
Then he had the Marquardt leglock and proceeded to get pounded out. And Marquardt has a very good ground game.
Dan Miller he didn’t really go for the submissions as much because he was winning the striking exchanges, but that still went the distance.
Palhares very much has trouble submitting high-level grapplers or anyone in the top 15. Dave Branch, Tomasz Drwal, and Lucio Linhares are all out of the UFC. Massenzio is an unranked MW. His career has mostly consisted of submitting guys who pose no threat to him and then stumbling against the very best of the division.
The title talk to me is a bit premature.
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its premature
But I think he really does have the potential to win the belt in a few years.
The Miller fight shouldn’t have went the distance. I swear I heard someone scream “STOP!” right before Palhares declared himself the winner.
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That's what Palhares said
That Miller verbally submitted.
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He didn't, though.
Full stop. I would bet my life savings with absolute confidence that you will never see a Miller brother submit to strikes in their career.
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He may not have
But someone did, and it sounded like him.
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You say that like it’s a fact, when it’s not. I know there were people who thought they heard somebody (not Miller) say stop, there were more people who heard nothing of the sort.
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by JustBlogGuy on Feb 20, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
rewatch the fight
I heard it pretty clearly
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by halitosis on Feb 20, 2012 12:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’ve rewatched the fight plenty of times. Miller never says stop, and is in the process of extending his arm up and kicking off with his legs (ie, still attempting to get out of the position, not quitting) when Palhares decides to stand up. He was in worse shape than that later in the fight and still responded immediately every time Herb threatened to stop it. Not to drop “I know this dude” evidence, but quite simply, there is zero chance in hell Dan would verbally submit to strikes in that fight, knowing a loss might mean his job and knowing how badly and why he needed to keep it to provide for his family. It just didn’t happen, and watching the video does nothing to change that because you can’t hear Dan saying anything at the time because he’s too busy worrying about the dude punching him in the head to have a chat.
Is it possible Dean said something that Palhares mistook for Miller saying stop, I suppose (though I and many others didn’t hear anything like it) but that doesn’t excuse Palhares, because a pro fighter really ought to be able to tell the difference between instructions from a ref to his opponent and his opponent verbally quitting, or make it any less lame that Bustamante said he was merely “too naive,” trying to dirty the reputation of an honest dude by saying he tricked Palhares to cover for his own fighter’s mistake.
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by JustBlogGuy on Feb 20, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
muh
It looked good at times against Miller but then he got dropped right after the whole crazy celebration thing. Didn’t really get a chance to see how it had progressed in his last fight but he still has defiencies
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by Our Bovine Public on Feb 19, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely possible
He’s got some powerful, technically sound striking and wrestling to go along with his freak strength, aggression and legit world class BJJ.
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Dana said in the future
The MC will be 4-5 fights.
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FOX has a 2 hour Primetime window from 8-10 et. 2, three round fights + 1 five round fight easily fits that window and as we saw last time if all the fights go the distance plus filler it can go over.
I know what Dana said but I’m not buying it until I see it.
Does it?
Usually, they seem to plan 30 mins for every 15 min bout and about 50 mins for a 5 rd. main event. Can’t see that fitting a 2 hr. format.
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Well, they always prefer wiggle room
But the reality is that actual fight-time, a 3 round is maximum 17 minutes(3X5 + 1 minute between rounds 1-2 and 2-3) and a 5 round fight is a maximum of 29 minutes
plus fighter introductions tend to be ABOUT 1.5 minutes max I’d say.
So, say all 4 fights go to decision…that’s 17+17+17+29 = 1 hour 20 mins of ‘start-to-end’ fight time, leaving 40 minutes for commercials and ancillary stuff..that seems do-able to me.
But when you have 4 fights, one between two heavyweight heavy hitters, another between a pair of 185ers with very high finish rates…then I’d say the chances of all 4 fights going the distance are pretty slim.
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by Chris Groves on Feb 20, 2012 4:26 AM EST up reply actions
Oh shit, might have to go to this UFC if Diaz and Palhares are gonna be there
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by The Lethal Haze on Feb 19, 2012 8:45 PM EST reply actions
UFC has no idea what to do with these Fox shows.
Glad they are experimenting to figure out what works.
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Nate Diaz and Jim Miller in a god damn five round fight
I don’t care if the ratings do shit, this is an awesome fight and shall be treated as such.
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by SSreporters on Feb 19, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If the ratings aren't good
Then they’ll know that they need to put “names” on the card. If not – and my suspicion is that they won’t be bad – then we can count on action fights like this one as the free card main events, with new fans to follow soon thereafter.
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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 19, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
They just don't know.
They did good ratings with Heavyweights and Title Fight, but bad action because it was too quick. Then they gave us three rad co-main events to fill out a card but the action wasn’t there. Now they are trying fights that have to be awesome but with little name value. We’ll see how that and the August card do for ratings and hopefully by 2013, UFC and Fox will be close to dialing in what works for everybody.
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I wonder how much name value is needed. I would think that as far as name value is concerned on a Fox card, they could have a name fighter on the main event. I just don’t see it being necessary to have all the other fights have names on those bouts. It would think a mixture of all the things you listed would be the right formula for a Fox card. With this card though, at least some people should be familiar with Koscheck and Diaz. In the future, I would like to see more Title fights, especially in the lighter weight classes, headline a Fox card.
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by chrisbboy82 on Feb 19, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
Best thing they could do.
I honestly expect this one to be the best one, entertainment wise.
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The whole lineup for the Fox show looks really good
Which should keep people tuning in and not switching the channel after a bad fight
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That's what I'm thinking
If you tune in and see Barry/Johnson, you’ll probably stick around or check back in later in the show.
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This is a great card.
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 19, 2012 9:00 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
I hope they have a stretcher nearby
For when Hendricks uppercuts Koscheck Shoryuken-style he flies out of the Octagon and right into the arms of paramedics.
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Absolutely
This:
Plus this:
Equals this:
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by halitosis on Feb 19, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Was that last GIF the Drew Fickett fight?
I think he was dominating that one before he got dropped like a sack of potatoes and then choked out with 30 seconds left.
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Nah
It was also the Paulo Thiago fight
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No, actually it's not.
Color of his shorts are different and Koscheck was vehemently protesting that he’d been KO’d after the Thiago fight.
aimed at the crotch...
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by Damon O. on Feb 19, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I actually have never seen that fight,
massive knee there.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 20, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
The last minute is insane
Bad stand up leads to a massive knee that leads to Drew Fickett choking out Kos cold.
by discoandherpes on Feb 20, 2012 4:13 AM EST up reply actions
On top of that, I just got done watching the Fickett fight and that is definitely where the gif is from.
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by Hendo_One-Shot on Feb 19, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
plz!!!!
as if kos is going to stand with johnny, he going to use his anthony johnson blueprint for this fight.
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He’s going to pretend he got poked in the eye?
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dont be like that....
you guys are making the same mistake as ppl did with condit/diaz. short term memory is where its at, condit and nick had amazing last performances so it obviously meant their fight was going to be a epic war.
hendicks got a KO, KOS boxed against peirce so it might mean that he will do the same, he aint dumb, he going in there with a gameplan, most likely LnP. he only trades with guys who he knows he can hang with, he is no different than GSP in terms of fighting against his opponents strengths.
Not really, no
Hendricks has the wrestling to stop Kos and the cardio to do it for all three rounds if need be. Of course, he won’t need that, Koscheck’s getting smashed in about two minutes.
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speculation is all we got yo....
i dont see hendricks stopping kos’s power double, or getting off from underneath him. even GSP couldnt stop Kos, and he is the best in the biz.
Hendricks neutralized Fitch pretty well
By simply pressing the off switch on his brain.
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by SSreporters on Feb 19, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
and that must mean something right ?
did it occur to you that kos has seen that fight many times by now ?
Koscheck probably knows Pierce had tons of power
And yet Koscheck chose to strike with him and got outstruck.
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by SSreporters on Feb 19, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
he knew rumble and daley....
had cracking power and took them down over and over, that right hand is not his only choice, he is actually a very well rounded cerebral fighter, he knows how to exploit his opponents, except for GSP who happens to be notch up both mentally and physically.
im not even a Kos fan, its kinda funny to me the way ppl are writing him off, way worse than when he fought daley, its kinda surprising that ppl have so much faith in hendricks.
Motherfucker hits hard.
And his wrestling is at the very least on par with Koscheck’s, at this juncture.
Either way, I’ll pick him to wreck Kos.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 19, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
I am like Hendricks more than Kos easily, but to me this fight is a 50/50. Hendricks has equal wrestliing on a pure wrestling stand point but in MMA I believe Kos is a ways ahead of him, but we will see.
Yeah, I may be getting ahead of myself.
Kos is a solid guy. But hopefully he gets KTFO’d.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 20, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
I hope so too, but both have a lot of power in their striking (Hendricks probably has more) and neither are super technical striking (again Hendricks is probably more technical) and I give Kos the MMA wrestling advantage, to me it is as toss up
I would agree with this. Will definitely be cheering for Hendricks though
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by Horselover Fat on Feb 20, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Because he can do that every time
C’mon. Even if he fought Fitch again this is not likely to happen twice.
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I agree...
12 seconds tells you nothing of a fighter’s abilities, much less a fighter against Jon Fitch. I highly doubt that KO would happen 9/10 times… but I’d wager some cash on Hendricks getting Fitched 9/10 times. For sure.
by Atomic Salmon on Feb 20, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
should be a fun show to watch
The fans should have no complaints. Fox may be pissed about a card with no draws if the ratings slip though
by Duffman on Feb 19, 2012 9:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It's a seven year contract
SEVEN YEARS!
Does anyone remember the very first UFC Fight Night on Spike? It was complete shit. Cote/Leben was the only redeeming entertainment that night. Marquardt/Salaverry was less watchable than ogre porn, Quarry/Sell I had a bullshit stoppage, and I honestly can’t remember anything about Sam Hoger. It was an awful televised card.
I think patience is the key. You can’t get it right on the first try every time.
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by SSreporters on Feb 19, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
You don't like ogre porn?
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by Chris Hall on Feb 19, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it cant be as cool as pterodactyl porn
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 19, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing is as cool as pterodactyl porn
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There’s a blonde in it…and it is pure horror.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 19, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
if by horror you mean fantastical
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 19, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
By horror I mean a real porn where dudes are dressed as pterodactyls.
I swear by Cthulhu this shit is real.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 19, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
oh i know it is real sir
and it is fantastical
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by Earl Montclair on Feb 19, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
WHAT?!
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by Unabomberman on Feb 19, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
pussy train.
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by gspmademegay on Feb 20, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Gotta grow this one, next to its 'lets mutherfukers' cousin.
This is kinda what happened to Diego, and what will happen to everyone from now on when they start losing.
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by Unabomberman on Feb 20, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, don't watch Shrek 5-hole
The copy I got just creeped me out.
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I think it's pretty obvious now that the UFC gives zero shits about you advancing far on TUF
Bermudez gets Pablo Garza, who is a very good fighter. Bedford will get crushed by Nick Denis.
Dodson vs. Uyenoyama is going to be a very competitive battle.
And to cite earlier examples they put Brookins on the Facebook show of a FUEL TV card behind guys like Walel Watson.
It’s good. Very good.
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I must say that its been only last week i have seen Brookins fight
And i have changed my opinion on him, because previously was just a guy who looked horrible at times but i could see how much talent he s got. Tell me, what went wrong with his career? Or its that he is too nice /weird looking to be able to get promoted or gain a better position?
Walel was zero so i think they have still made the ground for Urijah upps . Dillashaw to proceed no?
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Paul harris is getting TKO'ed
He is going to get dropped then finished on the ground. Mardquart style but without the greasy leg.
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Alternatively
He gets the takedown on Belcher, who isn’t a great wrestler, starts grabbing shit, and then proceeds to bring a knife and fork with him after he removes Belcher’s lower left leg.
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by SSreporters on Feb 19, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Not only that
Belcher is kind of a spaz sometimes.
One error of judgment(no, not another terrible tattoo), and its over.
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story of Paul’s life. His best win is Dan miller. Most of the people he has beaten are not in the UFC anymore (jeremy horn, salavarry, dave branch, Thomas Drwal, that lucio guy etc.) I just see him losing this.
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by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Feb 19, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
For the life of me I don’t get why Belcher is considered a top fighter. On the same metric as Palharres’ record, only Ed Herman (a split decision) is still in the UFC of Belcher’s wins, and he also has losses to Akiyama, Day and Grove, none of whom are even top-25 level opposition. The only time he has fought a legit top middleweight he got dominated by Okami.
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by JustBlogGuy on Feb 20, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
My mistake, I thought he was released again, recently. Probably a result of his injury having him on the sidelines so long. Still, the general point is that shy of his debut when he was worked (not that being dominated by Okami is necessarily a thing to be ashamed of or means somebody can’t now be a top fighter) he has never, in his wins or his losses, been thrown in against anybody that is anywhere near the top of the division, and instead has been matched with mid-to-lower UFC level middleweights. An 8-4 record in the UFC is never anything to be scoffed at, but Belcher seems like he often gets talked about as an elite guy, and somebody who is on the edges of the title picture and until he actually faces some ranked opposition I just don’t get degree of the hype.
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by JustBlogGuy on Feb 20, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
There we go
People are all over the belcher train and I just
I kind of think he beat Akiyama but I get your point.
But Belchers resume is a little better and I think he TKO’s Paul.
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by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Feb 20, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
So um....I got off the John Hathaway wagon after he arguably lost to Kris McCray
Let me know when I can get back on and be ridiculed again.
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With a quick search I'll probably just counter with his seemingly sober statement
That Dominick Cruz hits really hard.
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That's ridiculous. He must have been sober when he said that.
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Who is this guy?
John Hathaway? Could you please tell me more about him?
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British welterweight, holds a win over Diego Sanchez. People still can’t tell if he’s overrated or underrated though, based on some of the problems he’s had with lesser competition.
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I really don’t care much for him now. Massenzio is still pretty legit and I expect him to take the W
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I hate all of Vemola's fights except the Seth beatdown
He probably has the worst striking in the UFC. And I include Leonard Garcia. His wrestling isn’t that functional and when that isn’t working he resorts to open handed swim techniques he calls punches.
His issue is not weight classes, it’s lack of overall skill.
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by SSreporters on Feb 19, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Before seeing him fight that Brazilian guy
The only fight of his I saw was the one with Seth. You can see how I thought he was a monster.
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Ronny Markes was the Brazilian fighter
He fought Jon Madsen at heavyweight and got smothered in a shit awful fight, which prompted the move to 205 where he proceeded to kill Petruzelli.
Markes was a replacement for Stephan Bonnar, actually.
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I didnt know that he actually cant wrestle
Its strange when it comes to Brazilian fighters who cant wrestle? I dont think his last win was a clear one… It wasnt a good fight at all ..
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i still think Condit vs Ellenberger would be the perfect main event for this card
Nevertheless, still awesome, still stacked.
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Meh
Not to impressed with the UFC offerings on FOX this could almost be an FX type card. They have 2 more after this right will be interesting to see where it goes from here. I still think they need some bigger names on these FOX cards to get the casual fans attention. With 3 rumored fights for UFC 146 it already looks so much better than this and I know the money is the PPV an blah blah but to me this is another waste of a FOX card strike 2.
Rashad Evans is a million buy PPV fighter. Twice.
His fight was boring as shit.
Big names is not the problem. Interesting fights are.
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by SSreporters on Feb 19, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
ask 10 casual fans who Rashad Evans is.
I bet you 3 of them know his name.
by nickrodamous on Feb 19, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention who was he fighting in those million PPV buys?
it wasn’t Thiago Silva.
by nickrodamous on Feb 19, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Rampage and Forrest
You know, two guys who have drawn like shit in their last several headlining spots.
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by SSreporters on Feb 19, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
So Rashad is a bigger name than Rampage and Forrest?
oh ok.
by nickrodamous on Feb 19, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Is that really what you took from that statement? Really?
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 19, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Literal lawls...thank you
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I think it's a combination
Yes you need exciting fights but you also need names. Even if this a FOTY canidate I expect the lowest ratings for a FOX card yet. They wont be horrible but I’m not expecting better ratings than FOX 1 or FOX 2.
Agreed
It is a combination why doesn’t the UFC understand that? It doesn’t seem that difficult but who knows must be a lot of things going on behind the scenes at FOX and the UFC but I just haven’t been to impressed.
by nickrodamous on Feb 19, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
You are amazingly negative
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Fuck the ratings,
Diaz, Miller, Palhares and Hendricks are some of MMA’s best kept secrets, and I don’t want it to stay that way. These guys could be around for a while, so why not give them the exposure they deserve?
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by Sugel Mendoza on Feb 20, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
Can they just realize that having a FULL, 4-5 fight main card on Fox is the way to go?
Enough of this ’It’s Fox, so fewer fights and more storytelling’ bullcrap.
The more fights you have, then there is more of a chance of a WAR or knockout that redeems potentially not-so-great fights.
If the 3 top fights go to uneventful decision, but you at least opened with an ‘epic KO’…the main card doesn’t seem as ‘bad’
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There's four main card fighst on this event...
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I saw that
And I’m hoping it stays that way…
There was a rumor further up that they would scale it back to 3…I was just being paranoid.
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by Chris Groves on Feb 20, 2012 2:07 AM EST up reply actions
Ok...I missed that one
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It's all good.
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by Chris Groves on Feb 20, 2012 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
Ratings may start a little lower on this one due to the lack of names, but these fights are a great way to build interest as the broadcast goes, and to generate some hype for the next FOX show.
Also Diaz-Miller is going to be amazing, if they get to scrambling shits gonna be bananas
B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
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by Chris Groves on Feb 20, 2012 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
I am really looking forward to this card
and on really romantic evenings of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion.
by Johnathan Willis on Feb 20, 2012 2:48 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
I'm so happy Ortiz-Forest III is off
The 2nd fight was garbage and I think that would have stunk up the card. All those dudes have is name value.
I didn't think their 2'nd fight was that bad at all.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 20, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Lavar Burton in the UFC still makes me laugh
I mean, yeah, it’ll be a fun rock ‘em sock ’em robot fight, but Daniel Cormier must look at his name on a card like this and be hatin’ exquisitely.
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by some schmuck in texas on Feb 20, 2012 8:14 AM EST reply actions
One more fight for Cormier though
and he’ll come to the UFC as “The Strikeforce Heavyweight Champion of the world”
That is unless The Warmaster/Babyfat Assassin takes him out, and then he’ll just be a guy who’s not in the UFC and has a loss in his last fight.
Wah, wah, waaaaaah
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by hardlyworking on Feb 20, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
I doubt he'll be sixed for a loss - maybe in a div. other than hw.
He KOed Bigfoot and Bigfoot got moved over. It’s too bad Josh is such a juicy fighter. I love that guy’s skillset.
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by some schmuck in texas on Feb 20, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
lolderp
nice one. I’m not even that big a fan of Star Trek (uh, anymore.)
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by some schmuck in texas on Feb 20, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
WAR Nick Denis.
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