UFC 145: Jon Jones Vs. Rashad Evans Press Conference Video
by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 17, 2012 10:01 AM EST
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PrintYesterday saw the official press conference for UFC 145, an event which sees the long awaited light heavyweight championship bout between Jon Jones and Rashad Evans. The trash talk between the men was clicking as most expected it to be with the way the rivalry between the two men has built over the last year.
Here is the video of the presser:
MMA Fighting has some notes from the conference:
"I'm going to be cliche and say I'm going to go out there with great intentions and train really hard and just have fun," he said. "I realize when I have fun great things happen. Magical things happen."
But as he finished his thought, Evans interjected, saying "What do you really think, though?"
"You remember what I told you," Jones said.
"I remember what you told me, but I remember you didn't mean it," Evans said.
Some rowdy fans in the crowd yelled out, asking Evans what Jones said, and Evans mimicked Jones nervously saying, "Rashad, I'm going to be the first one to finish you in the first round...," stuttering his way throughout the less-than-flattering imitation.
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Finish him in the first huh?
If Bones blitzes Rashad I think the belt will change hands that night.
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Really?
I don’t think a Rd. 1 stoppage is in either mans future.
I think Rashad’s boxing has become overstated. He’s got finishing power but who has he outstruck/outboxed? He used his wrestling to beat Silva and Rampage. Phil Davis’s striking I’d OK (if I’m being polite) and Tito’s striking stinks.
by TMadeBurner on Feb 17, 2012 10:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm saying if Jones rushes in there thinking "finish it in the first, gotta back up my talk" Rashad is going to counter him hard
This fight is going to be one of those “90% mental” things, if the animosity is real and not some prearranged doctored drama.
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by menckenstein on Feb 17, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
I got ya. Honestly I think this’ll be one of those “we’re cool now that we fought and got all the ppv buys” sort of deals. It’s an extremely stupid conflict.
I mostly just wanted to discuss Shad’s boxing.
by TMadeBurner on Feb 17, 2012 11:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
still down to discuss shads boxing?
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Certainly
I think his handspeed is his best asset when talking about his boxing. He has an advantage over almost guy he fights and given the type of hand strikes in MMA (usually much wider than you’d see in a straight boxing match) his handspeed allows him to get off first and land first.
All that said his boxing hasn’t won him his biggest fights save for the Chuck obliteration. I think it’s his wrestling that wins his fights and I really don’t think he does anything better than Bones wrestling wise.
by TMadeBurner on Feb 17, 2012 11:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
well i already posted what i think belows
So check it out and answer me please if you can. By mistake posted it twice actually
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He drilled Rampage in the 1st because his MMA-boxing blend is pretty good
I could see him landing a TD, getting Jones conscious of that and then landing big. Of course Jones’ MMA-striking blend is a helluva lot better and the scenario is far more likely for him, but Rashad does have the pop to pull it off in theory.
Not afraid to nitpick
rashad is faster imo
So here’s what I think. For Evans to win he has to get Jones worried about the takedown. The way to do that for me is fake a big overhand right off the bat and shoot. Evans has one of the best striking to takedown transitions in Mma. After he gets Jones thinking about the takedown he can open up with some more strikes but the key for Evans is to keep transition from striking to takedowns(assuming Jones gets up obviously). Once he gets Jones down….well no one has seen his bottom game so we will have to wait for that and see what happens.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Shad shouldn't have to make Jones worry about the takedowns
He should worry about that just stepping into the octagon with him but I agree with your approach for Shad. If Evans can smother Jones for even one round…I think Jones will panic and take more risks and get flustered into making mistakes and Evans will make him pay with good counters and more takedowns. I think Jones confidence will spiral and will not be able to adapt to a situation he can’t control for the first time.
Jones is so used to doing whatever he wants in the cage that when he is confronted for the first time with someone that prevents him from doing so…he’s going to be lost. The one thing that I think Jones lacks is poise.
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by Buster Bluth on Feb 17, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
rashad is faster imo
So here’s what I think. For Evans to win he has to get Jones worried about the takedown. The way to do that for me is fake a big overhand right off the bat and shoot. Evans has one of the best striking to takedown transitions in Mma. After he gets Jones thinking about the takedown he can open up with some more strikes but the key for Evans is to keep transition from striking to takedowns(assuming Jones gets up obviously). Once he gets Jones down….well no one has seen his bottom game so we will have to wait for that and see what happens.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good in theory
but I don’t think Jones’s reach or his own wrestling ability will allow for that gameplan to work.
To me, Rashad needs to get off with his hands before his takedowns are going to be effective. This is because most fighters know that Rashad has superior MMA wrestling than them. Knowing this guys are weary of the TDs and are left a little more open to his hands. Once he starts getting off a bit with the hands, the opponent shifts focus to that and then BOOM, quick shot to takedown.
In respect to the Bones fight I don’t think Jonny Boy is going to be all that worried about Rashad taking him down thus he’s going to be able to focus on the boxing of Rashad a little more than most. Now Bones also has his freakish reach, which he uses quite well, and that’s going to allow him to keep Rashad at a distance where he can see most of the punches and takedown attempts coming.
by TMadeBurner on Feb 17, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
i agree with you mostly
But honestly I think shad can shoot quickly enough to get past Jones reach at least early in the fight. I do not see Jones taking rashad down which is why I think throwing a big overhand and transitioning to a power double would work on Jones in the first round at least no?
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
plus we know rashad has KO power as well in his hands and feet.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hands? Yes.
Feet? I won’t give him that off the Salmon KO, plus I think if he throws a head kick against Bones he’s going to get planted and pounded.
I’m not sure why you can’t see Bones taking Rashad down though. Has anyone been able to avoid that fate yet?
by TMadeBurner on Feb 17, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Has anyone stopped a Jones takedown you mean?
I think Rampage stopped a couple attempts against the cage?
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by menckenstein on Feb 17, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I didn’t mean to imply nobody has stopped a takedown from Jones yet, just that nobody has been able to avoid a takedown for the entire fight.
by TMadeBurner on Feb 17, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
he doesnt shoot for doubles his takedowns are almost always clinch based.
Plus rashad is quicker then anyone he has faced wrestling wise.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Typically
But he shot against Rampage and Bader and got the TD like nothing. And really the Machida TD started as a clinch throw try but he transitioned it into a single(?)
Not afraid to nitpick
are you talking about the takedown after the bell? and bader is much slower then rashad
Plus bader wasn’t thinking about the takedown at all but ill give you that.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's had plenty stopped
In large part because he doesn’t exactly sell out to try to get the trip takedowns. He’s never gotten sprawled on and stuffed that I remember.
Not afraid to nitpick
rashad is a better wrestler then jones
And Jones doesn’t have a great double/single leg. His takedowns are mostly from the clinch which rashad should avoid at all costs. Jones is gonna wanna stay on the outside and do the same thing he did to rampage. The problem with that is that rashad is a much different fighter then rampage. He’s faster and has better wrestling and also uses his wrestling as well. He can knock out Jones and take him down and control him. I really think he knows something we don’t as he is so confident and there has to be a reason for it. Do I think Jones is the rightful favorite yes. But I’m picking rashad to win this fight based on the problems he posts and also the mental game as well. Rashad is not gonna be psyched out by Jones but I don’t know if the same can be said for Jon. He might get caught up in the emotion of the grudge match (if its real of course).
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I will agree.
Only on the mental aspect of that. If Jones doesn’t have Greg mentally preparing him for this fight then that could be a big problem. If he does he will be more then fine. Greg will have Jones in the right state of mind.
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by RJshock 305 on Feb 17, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I really don’t or haven’t seen any hint of evidence of Jones not being mentally prepared for a fight. Ever. Well before he stepped into Jackson’s gym he seems very composed.
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
This is a little different though. If this grudge is legit then Jones could try and rush in and go for the kill, slip up and get nailed.
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by RJshock 305 on Feb 17, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
exactly my point.
Evans has been here before with a grudge match and kept his composure. Jones might let it get to him. Unlikely yes but it is a possibility.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I have to agree Benten
Jones has seemed a bit off in discussing this at times, I actually believe that there might be a little head game going in Rashad’s favor. Jones has seemed a bit hesitant talking smack, there’s a bit of nervousness to it. At first, I wrote it off to a discomfort with fight hyping, but after seeing so much, and having the ability to compare it to the Jones/Rampage buildup, it seems based on personal experience. I think there’s a legit case to be made that Rashad is a little bit in Jones’ head.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyron Woodley fight.
Jones is not Mark Hominick.
Many fighters have made the mistake that Hominick has made in the past and paid for it dearly.
Jones has more than likely sparred with Evans. Something tells me his approach and inevitable execution of Evans will be technically measured and magically fun.
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
i dont agree
If Jones schooled Evans when they sparred then there is no way Evans would be this confident. If anything Evans knows something we dont and plans to show us what it is come fight night.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is fun. Let's go.
If Jones schooled Evans when they sparred then there is no way Evans would be this confident
Rumors, legend has it that Anderson Silva schooled Belfort in the ways of the Spider during sparring.
Was Vitor Belfort more than confident heading towards their mega fight? Answer: Yes.
Note:
- Vitor Belfort is STILL confident that he can defeat Anderson Silva. (Add Henderson, Cote and of course Sonnen) Everybody knows something about Anderson Silva.
- Mark Hominick is STILL confident that he could defeat Jose Aldo.
- Rampage thinks he can STILL defeat Jon Jones.
In the end, this is all speculation.
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
i like how you brought this all. very good stuff.
However again I think Evans does know something we don’t. I’m hoping it to be honest. But in general speculation of this stuff is awesome.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 12:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I’m just not buying Evans bluff.
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
i guess we will all find out at UFC 145
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 12:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jones Judo/Greco Roman > Evans Wrestling
I don’t think any fighter has been psyched out by Jones. They’re just very aware of his unpredictable varied offense.
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Yep.
Shad’s wrestling credentials are a bit overstated too. He got run at Michigan State but it ain’t like the guy was some sort of beast.
by TMadeBurner on Feb 17, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
he transitioned his wrestling to mma better then anyone not named gsp
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah, that’s cool and all that but . . .
what happens when Jones takes him down? Or trips him?
Let’s not forget one of the most difficult things to do in the LHW division is close the distance on the longest reach in the UFC.
“And what are you going to do, when the . . .” (OK, cheap Hulk Hogan riff)
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
supposedly rashad has a very good bottom game but we havent seen it so we will find out if jones takes him down.
However rashad is fast enough to get inside and drag it to the ground imo. Plus anyone think he might try and leg kick Jones a lot?
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It’s Friday and you’re definitely welcome and allowed to include humor in your comments.
Leg kick Jones?
Yeah like Chad Mendes or Kenny Florian kicking Jose Aldo? That approach should be taken against Njoukuani, Barboza, Silva, Shogun, Forrest Griffin, and that young kid the MW Strikeforce champion.
I really want to see how that works out.
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
jon "chicken leg" jones.
He should have had his legs kicked off by now.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 12:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
rashad is a better wrestler actually
And if anyone can stop Jones shots its Evans
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 12:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Alright whatever
You’re not gonna be won over on that. Kicking the 2nd best wrestler in the division is probably not a good idea.
Not afraid to nitpick
lol touche on that
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 12:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What are you basing that off of though?
The fact that he uses a traditional single/double leg takedown instead of the clinch trips/tosses of Jones? We’ve seen Jones ragdoll guys who that sort of things just doesn’t happen to.
I’m going on memory here and haven’t ever rewatched the fight but didn’t Jonny get a hold of and trip Machida? Machida some one of the best bases/balance in MMA in the clinch.
What’d Rashad do against him? The Stanky Leg.
And I’m not trying to use MMA Math but I don’t know why you think Evans wrestling is leaps and bounds better than Jones.
by TMadeBurner on Feb 17, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Mma math is not relevant here.
Machida is a better striker then Rashad and thats why he beat him standing. Machida was also beating Jones standing and Jones only took control after taking him down and using the elbow from hell. Rashad is not leaps and bounds better. All im saying is that Rashad is faster and has better takedowns in the double and single leg sense of wrestling. He is also the quicker striker and he can almost mimic Machida early on by copying his flurries and then shooting for a takedown rather then backing off to reset for strikes. That is where he holds an advantage over Machida against Jones.
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Again, what are you basing that off of?
Has Jones shown a propensity to have god awful takedowns? No.
Has Jones not taken down every single fighter he’s face? Pretty sure he has.
How many people have been able to escape a posistion wherein Jones has gained an advantageous posistion?
I just don’t get why you think Rashad has such a wrestling advantage when there really is no proof.
by TMadeBurner on Feb 17, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Based off of Rashads previous fights
When has Rashad been outwrestled? Rashad is the better takedown artist. Im not saying Jones cant take down Rashad but i am saying that Rashad can take down Jones.
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First beautiful gif work.
Second indeed its a perfect transition. But Machida is not nearly as good a wrestler as Rashad is. Btw do you know how many takedowns Rashad made against Machida? I had the fight but my comp’s hard drive got erased. Also how do you get gifs?
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Machida's defensive wrestling
has seemed pretty damn good to me.
by TMadeBurner on Feb 17, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
i agree with you but you cant tell me he has better defensive wrestling then Rashad
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I don't feel comfortable saying that, no.
I think Shad’s offensive wrestling is better than Machida but I’m not willing to say there’s that big of a discrepency between the defensive wrestling ability.
Either way, it’s pretty clear we disagree on the level of Rashad’s wrestling compared to Jones. The best thing is that we should get an answer when they fight.
by TMadeBurner on Feb 17, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
good idea although this was a fun discussion thank you
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Twas a pleasure.
We even managed to not name call.
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there was no reason to as we are both respectful and realize this is just a friendly debate
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When I grow up
I want to double guys by jumping backwards.
by WheelieMonkey on Feb 17, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
I think that that argument was well debunked
By the fact that he fucking schooled Phil Davis. His wrestling in MMA is legit, period.
I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyron Woodley fight.
Hmm
I think you underestimate how quick Jones is. Evans may have a fast takedown but you have to consider he will be shooting from like nearly a mile away. He wont be right in Jones face because Jones will keep him at bay with his striking. A few leg kicks knee’s will make Evans nervous about shooting, and striking wise I believe Jones will pick him apart. I have Jones winning by TKO in the 3rd.
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by RJshock 305 on Feb 17, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
rashad is faster and i think he can employ and edgar like game until he shoots for the takedown.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not a good analogy IMO
Both Maynard and BJ fight pretty flat footed which is what allowed Edgar to get in and out like he did.
Jones doesn’t fight like that. At all.
by TMadeBurner on Feb 17, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
jones has holes in his striking defense and i think rashad can take advantage of that.
Rashad is lightning fast in the first two rounds.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I honestly have never been,
to impressed with Evan’s speed. I mean dude is fast, but he aint no Machida.
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by RJshock 305 on Feb 17, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
You keep saying that as if he has a speed advantage over Jones to the point that it’s an advantage and I just don’t see it.
by TMadeBurner on Feb 17, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
i really think he does have a large speed advantage thats why
He’s incredibly quick on the in and out strikes and his transitions to takedowns.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I really disagree.
People act like Evan’s is GSP and Edgar’s Level with striking to wrestling transitions and I just dont see it. If Jones was able to keep his wits about him from getting blitzed by Machida, then he should have no problem keep Evan’s at bay, Jone’s reach pretty much negates this so called huge speed advantage.
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by RJshock 305 on Feb 17, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
the difference between evans and machida is this
Evans can do the blitz like Machida imo. But he can also quickly shoot for the takedowns as well while Machida would not. Evans was beat by Machida yes but I think he poses a stronger challenge to Jones because of his wrestling.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 12:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Like I said.
Jones is gonna have a near 10inch reach advantage. Combine that reach and how well he uses it to keep people at least a foot away from him at all times, and I dont see how Evans lunges in and doesn’t eat a hook, jab, or a knee before he even closes the gap.
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by RJshock 305 on Feb 17, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
by flurrying and getting jones to move back and cover like machida did.
The difference here is that Evans can then duck under and shoot for the double and get it.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 12:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This
I think it will all come down to whether or not Rashad can get inside fast enough in transition after flurries or following the overhand right. He’s gonna be starting from pretty far outside, given Jone’s good use of distance. If he’s not feeling explosive it could just be a long night. But with the reach advantage for Jones it’s hard not to see Rashad’s offense all hinging on how fast he can close the gap.
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No Way that works.
Evans is fast but his striking has never been like Edgar’s. Evans is to worried about taking a shoot to employ an Edgar like gameplan. Edgar doesnt give a fuck about getting hit once to nail you five times. Evans gives two fucks.
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by RJshock 305 on Feb 17, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
evans isnt afraid to take a shot.
He fires back when he is hurt and will keep his wits about him to fight intelligently until he is out(Machida). He went toe to toe with rampage and rocked him in the first to.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 11:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Until he took a couple shot's.
Evans has will revert to his wrestling if he gets hit a few times, ever since that Machida lost, dude will stand until he gets hit hard then its wrestling mode. Jones will keep him at bay with those side kicks, through in a head kick here and their, jabs, super man punches, and god forbid they ever clinch up.
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by RJshock 305 on Feb 17, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
i dont know if jones has the one punch power to really hurt evans standing like machida or rampage did
Plus Evans in wrestling mode is very dangerous to.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 12:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jones rocked the shit out of both of them.
With that left hook in the 4th against Page, and again with that left superman hook against Machida.
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by RJshock 305 on Feb 17, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
machida was done from the elbow and ground and pound before that.
Rampage was mentally broken at that point.
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by benten20 on Feb 17, 2012 12:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Your Point.
He still showed striking power against people that better chins then Evans.
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by RJshock 305 on Feb 17, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Evans has been knocked out once by Machida
and this was after numerous shots after being rocked and he kept fighting rather then retreating. Against Rampage he survived and kept pushing through it as well. His chin is much better then people give him credit for.
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He was also hurt by Thiago Silva in a fight where Silva could hardly move due to his back.
by TMadeBurner on Feb 17, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Silva has ridiculous power.
He also recovered to win the decision. Hes been beaten and finished one time. He has been rocked and recovered to get the victory. All the guys who rocked him are more powerful strikers then Jones so i dont see how Jones can KO him standing without ground and pound, aside from a good ol clean shot that would knock out anyone.
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Rashad never went toe to toe with Rampage, which is smart, as he’d have gotten beat up trading punches.
by Hardcharger on Feb 17, 2012 1:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
There has been so much black on black crime in the LHW division lately
I don’t even know what to think, my head is going to fucking explode.
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by RandyCouture'sDivorceLawyer on Feb 17, 2012 10:15 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Your head is quite athletic
It’s the inevitable next step.
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by menckenstein on Feb 17, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Lots of guys fading, and lots of guys getting faded, for sure.
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by dedstrk316 on Feb 17, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rashad’s impression of Jones was priceless
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by chavez_26 on Feb 17, 2012 10:45 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
STILL in tears from it
uh Rashad….uh.. Shad’s “hypeman” was hilarious too
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by LRaunThaDamaja on Feb 17, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
so blackzilians...
got rid of bigfoot, so now they’re a bit less zilian and more dutchy ? BTW i seriously doubt alistair will train with these guys especially having spong around, i think he will just use the facility and have his own trainers around him.
I don't think Alistair will have a problem training with Spong
It’s not like GG guys didn’t beat the shit out of each other all the time in K1 and Ultimate Glory.
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by menckenstein on Feb 17, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
even so....
what can alistair benefit training with these guys ? its not like junior is going to shoot on him, and he has the best striking coaches around him already, i think he is more interested with the business side of things than training partners.
Maybe he can shoot in on JDS and surprise everyone.
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by menckenstein on Feb 17, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
That would be surprising but let’s keep in mind not even Cain and Shane couldnt take jds down and have far more superior wrestling than overeem
by MMA214 on Feb 17, 2012 11:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd argue that Alistair is strong enough to muscle through a TD attempt
He could probably just throw JDS around from the clinch (provided JDS isn’t blasting him up with an uppercut immediately)
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by menckenstein on Feb 17, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Throw junior around ?
I’m not sure about that and by the way, does overeem really have much of a size advantage over Dos santos ?
by MMA214 on Feb 17, 2012 12:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes, yes he does.
He’s 30 pounds heavier. And given the way he muscled Lesnar around, he’s probably quite a bit stronger. If he gets in the clinch without being blasted by a JDS uppercut, he can probably rough him up a bit.
That’s a big “if” however. JDS has incredible power, quickness and great footwork.
True, and I’m still a strong believer that Cain is the only person that has the tools to beat dos santos
by MMA214 on Feb 17, 2012 12:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Cain fight was too small a sample size
How many shots did JDS stuff? Not many, the fight was just too short. We haven’t seen the best Cain/JDS fight yet, IMO. I am not making excuses for Velasquez, I like JDS, but I think if they fight again it’s a lot more fun to watch.
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i know...
but at some point he was with blackzilians too.
then he went to team nog long before MegaReem came over.
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I’m looking forward to this one.
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Rashad is going to need to finish Jones early to win this fight
He doesn’t have the cardio to win a decision. He has to take him down early then catch him soon after.
by discoandherpes on Feb 17, 2012 11:32 AM EST reply actions
People have been questioning Evans cardio since he faced Bisping & Tito. His power wrestling might tire him out a little bit but his performances against Thiago Silva and Rampage were money.
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
These two have an interesting dynamic. I can’t really describe it, but they still act like friends in a way in how they bash each other. It’s doesn’t really come off like hatred but two friends just taking shots at each other.
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Thank god Rashad has the speed advantage, because I don’t see him overcoming the reach and size disadvantage. I think we’re going to see a similar gameplan to what he used against Davis, which is relatively conservative.
If he has any chance at all, he better set up takedowns after flurries, basically anytime Jones is in transition – go for a leg.
That said, I think Rashad is going to get smashed. I just hope it’s going to be competitive.
Uhmm . . . Evans size doesn't mean crap
Since he step into the Octagon, or since Season 2 of TUF, he’s done nothing but defeat physicallly bigger fighters.
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Jon Jones is not unbeatable...
Any light heavyweight in the Navy Seals would kick Jon Jones ass. So I wish people would stop saying that there is nobody that can beat Jones.
Tim Kennedy has the same hand to hand skillset as a Navy SEAL and he's not destroying everyone left and right
If you’re young I’ll forgive you for thinking this but if you’re over 25… I dunno what. But you’re wrong.
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by menckenstein on Feb 17, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Hahahahahahabahah!!
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by Not Hauser on Feb 17, 2012 1:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
it's almost as if no one has beaten him before.
I bet people keep saying that until he loses not via disqualification.
by Matt Hamill's Ears on Feb 17, 2012 2:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This.
I forgot Wolff was a SEAL.
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by menckenstein on Feb 17, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
I literally have beat a navy seal (he is a student) using no hands.
Without a gun or knife they are just your average tough guy. The military doesn’t invest much time in unarmed combat. As with the majority of people on here. You don’t know what you are talking about.
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by the-gentle-way on Feb 17, 2012 3:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
And people wonder why I don't like people with a hard-on for the military.
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by MicahtheCynic on Feb 17, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
lol
With weapons, sure- a SEAL is a killing machine. But so much of their training has to do with stealthy infiltration and weapons mastery, that a pretty damn small amount of their training is in unarmed combat. The notion that a SEAL would whoop the best professional 205 lb prize fighter in the world is stupid. If that were true, then every SEAL would be cleaning up in the UFC and making bank in a much safer environment.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 17, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Rashad’s handspeed and boxing could do nothing significant against awkward-ass phil davis so people actually think its going to work better on Jones?
especially since Rashad has gotten more and more cautious in his last few fights.
like i have been saying all along – We are going to see Jones’ nasty streak really come out in this fight
You ain’t the only one who has been saying it, I think Jones goes off on Evans in this fight and it won’t be pretty at all. Some fans trying to convince themselves that Rashad even stands a chance in this fight, they make me laugh like that idiot yelling in the press conference. Those are the type of people I wish I could watch this fight with just so I can see their face after it’s all over with. If you thought the Shogun fight was bad and that really brought out your hate for Jonny, wait until he gets through with Evans, it ain’t going to be nice.
The quotes don't do the imitation justice.
It was hilarious I encourage everyone to watch the video the way Rashad stutters and stammers in a mono tone and blinks fast he sounds exactly like Jones good stuff.
The quote referenced comes in at about 28:25 of the video.
by FreeFocus on Feb 17, 2012 5:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
thanks
just came in to ask that
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