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Dana White Says He Doesn't Know What To Do With Dan Henderson

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Dan Henderson has been waiting for his next fight since his incredible win over Mauricio Rua at UFC 139. It seemed that the fight had put him in line for a title shot but the way the divisions have already been lined up, he has been put on the back burner without a clue what was next. And from what Dana White is saying, he doesn't know what is next for Hendo either.

Via MMA Fighting:

If Rashad Evans had been upset by Phil Davis, Henderson would have been thrust into a title fight with UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones. And even if Evans had won but Chael Sonnen had lost his fight on the same night, Henderson might have received a chance at a rematch with middleweight kingpin Anderson Silva.

Neither of those scenarios transpired, however, as both Evans and Sonnen won, setting up their own respective title shots. That has left Henderson in a kind of championship purgatory, with no obvious short-term move, according to Dana White."He doesn't want to fight Machida," White said following last night's UFC on FUEL event. "He doesn't want to wait. He's going to have to wait. Who does he want to fight? I don't know what to do with Dan. Dan's either going to have to wait for Jones or wait for Silva. Or fight somebody else."

It's unfortunate because Henderson is near his expiration date, turning 42 later this year. I would hope that they can get Dan a single fight and then get him into a title fight of some sort before it's just too late for him to have his one last shot while still a legitimate (read: not old and shot) fighter.

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I think Hendo is near the end of his career

so he’s going to wait out for a title shot so he can end his career on top. Win or lose I think he would retire.

by av1o3 on Feb 16, 2012 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

For Machida maybe

Lyoto won’t just stand there and throw like what Fedor and Shogun did.

by av1o3 on Feb 16, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

But if Jones can KO him

Hendo would do terrible, terrible things to his brain.

by Warbreezy on Feb 16, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Jones strangled the life out of him there is a difference.

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by MattParker117 on Feb 16, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

The choke was a direct result of the superman punch that dropped Machida clean, though

Of course, Machida would still take Hendo down into full mount and then smash.

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by SSreporters on Feb 16, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Lots of guys land good punches and don't finish with a submission.

Big Nog tried to submit Mir after having him rocked.
Albert tried to submit Menjivar after having him rocked.

Jones is the best choke artist in the world; that’s why he finished Machida. Not cause he rocked him with a punch.

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by Luke Nelson on Feb 16, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubting Jones' choke abilities.

But he was in a position to get that submission because Machida was already hurt.

I’m discussing the reason not the outcome.

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by SSreporters on Feb 16, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

I was mostly answering to Warbreezy, who said that if Jones can KO Machida, Hendo will do terrible things to his brain.

In fact, I agree with your assertion that Machida would take Hendo down and beat him.

So my post was kind of silly.

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by Luke Nelson on Feb 16, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Jones is the best choke artist in the world; that’s why he finished Machida.

Wait, what? Really? I agree it was very impressive, but..

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by Horselover Fat on Feb 16, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Who is better at finishing chokes in MMA?

Jones is a freakish finisher. I think he attempted one submission against Machida, one submission against Rampage and one submission against Bader. He finished all of them.

Sure, he usually does damage before he puts the choke on, but as we’ve seen in other fights, doing some damage and then going for a sub doesn’t equal victory all the time at all.

I think Jones is very underrated in his ability to finish chokes.

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by Luke Nelson on Feb 16, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Bader also got choked out by Tito Ortiz, so there’s that. I think Rampage had kind of given up at that point, I don’t know if he couldn’t have done something more about it.. also I don’t quite remember the last time someone had his back, but he does have very good defense of course. I think Machida is the best one of them since he is a legit black belt, but he was also rocked senseless just before getting choked.

Look at me, making excuses! He’s definitely very good at them, I personally wouldn’t go so far as saying he’s the best. Not sure who else I’d might anoint either though. Maybe Roger Gracie, but that’s almost cheating.

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by Horselover Fat on Feb 16, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing is.....

…Jones isn’t a one dimensional fighter like Gracie, or other fantastic BJJ guys.

He does damage to you first, then chokes you out when you are busy trying to defend from his strikes. Does that make him the best choke artist in the world? Maybe not. Best in MMA? I think so.

It’s probably dependant on how you define “best”. Is his technique the best? No. If fighting was limited to only using chokes, would he be the best? Probably not. In the scope of MMA though, with the ability to do damage first, he’s pretty much peerless.

In my opinion of course.

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by Luke Nelson on Feb 16, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, you’ve certainly stated your case very well. I don’t necessarily disagree with any of that, other than for me it’s a little too early to be calling him that. I’m also a little hesitant in general to be calling people “the best” at anything, as it’s so definitive. Like I said below, maybe if he can take out another top opponent with a choke this year I’ll join you.

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by Horselover Fat on Feb 16, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

Same goes for the term “MMA striking”

Ex:
“GSP outstruck Alves”
“But it was because he made him fear his shot”

That’s MMA, folks.

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by halitosis on Feb 16, 2012 9:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

When I saw your original post about JBJ being the best choke finisher in the world, I thought it was crazy (this coming from a JBJ fan). But then you stated your case well, and you know I can’t really think of anyone else that compares. Maybe Overeem? He has top-notch striking, and if he gets you in a guillotine, forget about it. But then again, off the top of my head, I can’t remember his submitting anyone since Thompson (not exactly the best fighter in the world, so take with a grain of salt). Frank Mir also comes to mind for having killer finishing abilities. I can’t remember a submission that he didn’t finish. Not a lot of guys in the smaller weight classes, which is weird. So, I would definitely agree, JBJ is right up there with the best of the best. Dude has killer instincts, for sure.

by Baba Booey on Feb 17, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

To clarify...

When I think of the “best” at finishing chokes, I’m thinking of a guy that attempts a choke/submission that guys don’t get out of. Like I said, JBJ, Mir come to mind. There are other guys that are better submission specialists (see: the Gracies, Maia, etc.) because they have more chokes/submissions in their arsenal, but they don’t necessarily finish them every time.

by Baba Booey on Feb 17, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

rampage uses all strength to escape subs.

He gets worn down when sub fighting. He is crazy hard to take down

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by the-gentle-way on Feb 16, 2012 11:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

BJ Penn

Bones has perfect arms for choking – super long and skinny, but you have to go with Penn here. No question.

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by nannerb on Feb 17, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Penn couldn't finish Fitch when he got his back twice.

So that takes a lot away from him. The thing about Jones is he’s finished at least one guy without really doing much damage to him first in Ryan Bader.

I don’t believe that Penn has ever finished any other submission but a rear naked choke and that is almost always following a beat down.

Yes, in some of the other cases Jones has beat down his opponents first, but he’s just more clinical and quicker at finishing.

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by Luke Nelson on Feb 17, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Not being able to submit Jon Fitch definitely isn't a strike against you,

especially when you’re fighting above your optimal weight division.

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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 18, 2012 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

He tapped Machida, which has never been done

He tapped Rampage, which has only ever been done by Sakuraba.

He tapped Bader for Ryan’s first career loss until Tito smashed him.

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by SSreporters on Feb 16, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. That’s still only three victories though. Maybe if he can choke out Rashad or someone else down the line I’ll agree with you.

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by Horselover Fat on Feb 16, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

But he choked Jake O’Brien!

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by T.C. Engel on Feb 16, 2012 9:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That choke was fucking vicious

I don’t even care that it was Jake O’Brien. That belongs on the list.

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by halitosis on Feb 16, 2012 9:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ummmm…. no. it was a direct result of him being rocked him with a punch. Much in the same way tito choked Bader.
jones isn’t the best choke artist in the world, nor mma. Marcelo Garcia ,Rickson Gracie or Roger Gracie hold that title.
Jones is the best 205lb mma fighter. That’s why he finished him. He transitioned from one phase to another and got the choke. It doesn’t cheapen the win.

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by the-gentle-way on Feb 16, 2012 8:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He is the best MMA choker

Uses all aspects of MMA to lead to a choke finish.

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by halitosis on Feb 16, 2012 9:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Bj Penn , roger Gracie, etc. Still have better chokes in mma. Period.

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by the-gentle-way on Feb 16, 2012 11:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

How stupid of me.

I’ll be leaving now…..gimmie dat.

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 17, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

tha' fuck?

Leave the past behind, just walk away...

by SentientAndroid on Feb 17, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

And don't call me Shirley.

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 17, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

This is awesome

both gifs are perfectly synced so the text comes out at the same time.

by av1o3 on Feb 17, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I disagree

Either Bruce Leroy or T.J Dillashaw take top honours for me

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by clayguidashair on Feb 16, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Jones didn't KO Machida.

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by Luke Nelson on Feb 16, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Machida was out,

He dropped like a ton of bricks and Jones just happened to choke him, rather than elbow the shit out of his face for the stoppage.

by Warbreezy on Feb 16, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a bit simplistic.

When you watch the finish again, Machida is in the process of getting back to his feet when Jones puts the choke on. He’s on his knees when Jones sinks it in.

To say he was out is just incorrect.

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by Luke Nelson on Feb 16, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

He wasn’t out, but he was beat to shit. First Jones smashed his face with an elbows and cut him bad. They seperated and Jones dropped him with that big punch. After which, Lyoto was pressed against the cage taking major damage. He was pretty much done for when Jones sunk that choke in.

by Schwizzles on Feb 16, 2012 7:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

How do you define being out?

He wasn’t just wobbled or rocked. If somebody drops the way he did, I think they’re pretty much unconscious. He didn’t get stiff armed, but he was out and recovered, right before Jones sunk in the choke.

by Warbreezy on Feb 16, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, he got dropped and then he was getting right back up.

It happens to a lot of fighters. It happened to Diego Sanchez last night in the first round.

I would call what happened to Jon Fitch at 141 “out”. He got hit, fell like a tree, got hit again and would have ended up stretched out by subsequent punches had the ref not saved him.

Schwizzles, I’m not sure what you are getting at when you say he was taking “pressed against the cage taking major damage”. Jones put the choke on in the scramble that took place after the punch. It happened pretty fast and Jones didn’t hit him with much after the initial shot, just locked up the choke.

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by Luke Nelson on Feb 16, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll admit that he wasn't out cold.

But I think if that punch had landed in the middle of the cage(rather than right up against it), it probably would’ve been stopped before Jones got the choke.

by Warbreezy on Feb 16, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

And you are certainly correct in your assertion that Jones could have finished Machida with strikes, if he so chose.

Back to the original issue at hand though…You think Hendo would KO Machida?

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by Luke Nelson on Feb 16, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it is very likely.

Hendo has absolutely ridiculous power. Fedor took some savage ground and pound from Bigfoot and never looked dazed, but Dan put him out with a single uppercut. He also dropped Shogun pretty badly. I just don’t think Machida’s chin is close comparing with Fedor’s or Rua’s.

The issue is, would Dan be able to land that right hand. I don’t know. In a 5 round fight, my guess would be that he would, and that would be bad for Machida.

by Warbreezy on Feb 16, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He can definitely knock him out in theory. Lyoto’s chin is average. However (and I could be wrong), but I cannot see how Dan Henderson hits Lyoto with the one tool in his arsenal. Dan has decent enough boxing, but we are talking about the guy who takes the least amount of strikes in MMA. A stiff 42 year old Dan Henderson is going to hit him with that one shot? Lyoto is going to be looking for that right hand all fight.

by Dev93L on Feb 17, 2012 5:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Just out of curiosity and because I respect what you are trying to say, what leads you to believe Dan could actually hit him with that bomb? I would say if anything Lyoto has proved he is overall excellent at avoiding knockout blows. Just because 5 rounds is an awfully long time to 100% dodge him when one could do it?

by Dev93L on Feb 17, 2012 5:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps I’ve got the sequence slightly out of order here, but I remember them seperating after the cut, and Kyoto looking really sluggish and taking a deep breath. Lyoto moved into throw and got dropped like a sack of dirt by a huge left. Lyoto then moves in for a real weak takedown attempt. This is where I get a bit hazy, but I think Jones pressed him against the cage and threw some knees to the body before slapping on the choke.

Anyways, I still don’t agree that Jones is the best at applying chokes in MMA. No doubt, he’s very good. But its not as if his success comes from his dazzlingly array of chokes or his sneaky way of setting them up. In almost all of his finishes he’s beaten his opponents into a living death and then slapped on a choke.

by Schwizzles on Feb 16, 2012 7:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No

Jones dropped him with a short superman punch, Machida dropped face first, and Jones sunk in the choke while sprawled out. Jones pushed him back up against the cage and then Machida went out.

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by halitosis on Feb 16, 2012 10:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

When Fitch’s arms went straight..he was out..

by TheIrishLemon on Feb 16, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe you didn’t watch the Shogun vs Machida fight one and two lolol

by Peter Lee on Feb 16, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you?

Do you really think Hendo could do what Shogun did? Hendo never throws kicks and doesn’t have the footwork to catch Lyoto.

by av1o3 on Feb 16, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly. Dan is not a Muay Thai master.

by Dev93L on Feb 17, 2012 5:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

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by halitosis on Feb 16, 2012 10:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

When he gets KO’ed he is done, as long as that Iron Chin and brutal power are there is is a threat to anyone. Once that chin is gone, so is Hendo.

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by Kefka on Feb 16, 2012 7:07 PM EST reply actions  

He has never been knocked out, he has one of the best chins in mma. I know some people have different criteria for good chins, mine is not being able to be KO’d.

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by Kefka on Feb 16, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The only names I can come up with are Stephan Bonnar and Vladimir Matyushenko and I don’t want any of that. If Strikeforce had died like it should of Gegard Mousasi and Dan Henderson would probably be on the Atlanta show fighting for a title shot.

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by MattParker117 on Feb 16, 2012 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

Hell, I'm still pissed at Strikeforce

For not booking Hendo vs. Mousasi right off the bat. That’s the fight they should have made as soon as Hendo signed, instead of Hendo-Shields and Mousasi-Mo.

by MichaelDavidSmith on Feb 16, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

It should be happening right now

Strikeforce is a waste of time and money for everyone involved (thanks a bunch FTC) and the fight still makes a ton of sense.

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by MattParker117 on Feb 16, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, looks like he’s ducking Team Nog like the plague. No to Lil Nog, no to Machida. Guess he figures if he’s gonna get his ass beat he at least wants a chance at the title.

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by The Lethal Haze on Feb 16, 2012 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

Rampage vs. Hendo is quietly one of the best fights in UFC history

How that didn’t win FOTN is beyond me.

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That fight was awesome.

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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 16, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Really it should have been

Shogun and Rampage in Japan
Dan and Little Nog in Atlanta(leave the Montreal card alone with Bones/Shad)
Bader/Gustaff Son in Sweden

by TheCode on Feb 17, 2012 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Rampage’s grappling in all aspects, really surprised me in that fight. If there had been a bit more striking exchanges the fight would be remembered more that it is.

by TheCode on Feb 17, 2012 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

The 5 round war with Shogun may have had something to do with it, the quick turn around also.

by tremblay6 on Feb 16, 2012 7:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Should push Gegard into a Co-Main UFC 145 against Hendo

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by AfroSamurai on Feb 16, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure that Hendo was on medical suspension (or life support) when they made that fight.

No way he’d have gotten in a proper camp.

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by McKinley B. Noble on Feb 17, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t see anything wrong with him waiting for his shot, he knows how close he is to the end and he has deserved one more chance. If not, I’d like to see him versus Rampage, that would have been a phenomenal fight to have on the Japan card.

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by Ak.Death on Feb 16, 2012 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

*earned, not deserved.

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by Ak.Death on Feb 16, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Send him over to my place

we’ll have pizza!

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by Shotokanman on Feb 16, 2012 7:16 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Nope he’s still mad you didn’t answer the phone for shogun.

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by Chris Hall on Feb 16, 2012 8:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

At this point in Hendo’s career he’s fishing for superfights and/or Championship fights (as he should)….personally I think he should wait for the Evans/Jones winner…….if he really cant wait that long then Rampage aslong as he wins and comes out unscathed from Bader bout.

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I like lots of things about that comment.

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by POW on Feb 16, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Ouch.

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by McKinley B. Noble on Feb 16, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Shogun again. The fuck not?

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by John Danaher's Hair on Feb 16, 2012 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

These fights don't do anything for him at all.

He’s already the number 2 guy in the division, and short of a rematch with Rua, every other fight is just a risk he shouldn’t take.

by Warbreezy on Feb 16, 2012 7:23 PM EST reply actions  

Even a rematch with Rua is a risk he shouldn’t take. He got a win on his record (I felt Shogun won, personally, but it was definitely a close fight). They took a ton of damage, I say leave the rematch alone. Both of their stocks rose with that fight, I don’t think they have anything to gain from a rematch.

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by thirdparty on Feb 16, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

He needs to fight. Maybe Machida or Bonnar?

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by TheLastEmpress on Feb 16, 2012 7:23 PM EST reply actions  

Henderson needs not waste his time against Stephan Freaking Bonnar

Unless Bonnar wants to lose to another former UFC champion

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by SSreporters on Feb 16, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

The fact that Gegard Mousasi is without an opponent in Strikeforce makes this even more frustrating.

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by MattParker117 on Feb 16, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

So you want Chuck to die in the ring

Youre cruel man

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by warren305 on Feb 16, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Hendo vs Coleman then

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 16, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Rampage would have been cool

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by warren305 on Feb 16, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Their first fight was a classic.

I feel like a lot of people forgot how awesome that was.

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by POW on Feb 16, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

this guy?

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by Victor Rodriguez on Feb 16, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

That guy

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 16, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

the exhale while he throws the knee is what seals the deal.

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by Victor Rodriguez on Feb 19, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

YUP

i always mused over the idea of “what if chuck had beaten rampage, and hendo and him had gone at it?” I honestly think hendo tools chuck these days, but that would have been one heluva fight back in the day

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What did Chuck ever do to you?

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What did Chuck ever do to you?

He made me want to see Bachelor Party Vegas

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 16, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, damn.

I actually bought the DVD. He got you too, huh?

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by Dustin Luff on Feb 16, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes...

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 16, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Smart move by Hendo. I don’t think he gets past Machida. Then again I didnt think he’d beat Shogun

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by warren305 on Feb 16, 2012 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

Hendo can do anything

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 16, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Except produce testosterone

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by warren305 on Feb 16, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL, nice

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by warren305 on Feb 16, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

not nice

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by mattsterguy on Feb 16, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I know, low blow. Pun intended

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by warren305 on Feb 16, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

and the zingers just keep coming!

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by mattsterguy on Feb 16, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what… she said?

by chillnnsht on Feb 17, 2012 7:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I wish Hendo was my Dad.

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 16, 2012 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

It hurts so good.

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 16, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

will you settle for Houston Alexander?

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by Victor Rodriguez on Feb 16, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I could choke Houston Alexander

no doubt.

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 16, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Is there anyone else out there that is a little tired of Hendo?

I mean, he’s had a great career and deserves a ton of credit for his success as a forty-something, but to me he’s not a viable title contender anymore and his recent victories are nowhere near as awesome as he seems to think they are.

Shogun, Fedor and Babalu were shells of their former selves and I’m sorry but Rafael Cavalcante has yet to prove to me that he’s a top 10 fighter. So while his recent streak looks great on paper, I’m just not that impressed.

And now it seems he’s refusing any fights that aren’t title fights, as if he is truly above everyone else at 205 or 185.

I can’t fault him for wanting a big pay day at the end of his career but the way he’s going about all this just rubs me the wrong way.

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by Luke Nelson on Feb 16, 2012 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

Heres the thing

In his current incarnation, he is a viable contender. More so than almost anyone left at LHW or MW

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by warren305 on Feb 16, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Hendo's earned his last shot at gold IMO.

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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 16, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you mean he's rightfully earned a chance to fight for a title one more time?

Or do you mean that he won’t ever fight for a title again?

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by Luke Nelson on Feb 16, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean he's earned a chance to fight for it one more time.

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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 16, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

ahhh.

Well, I can’t really disagree at 205 pounds, since he’s the only guy with any credentials at all, (save for Rashad, but I’m not counting him since he’s already getting the next shot)

As for 185 though, he has no case….

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by Luke Nelson on Feb 16, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't want to see Hendo at 185 either.

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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 16, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Only person who wants to see that less is Hendo.

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by POW on Feb 16, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

He just doesn't want to risk losing the position he is in.

Amnd frankly, I agree with him. He got screwed over when the shot was given to Rashad, because they wanted to capture the ghost of whatever hype was left over from the Jones/Shad beef. I’d be a little annoyed too, if I was the number one contender, just beat two legends and STILL got passed over, even though I was ready to fight.

by Warbreezy on Feb 16, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Why though?

Why is Rashad ahead of him, just because he missed out on his shot a while ago?

by Warbreezy on Feb 16, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, yeah. Rashad’s definitely a priority over Hendo

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by warren305 on Feb 16, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Dan is coming off of a KO of Fedor and war with Shogun.

He’s currently the #2 guy in the division.

I don’t see how Rashad decisioning Davis in unimpressive fashion puts him in any better of a position that Henderson.

by Warbreezy on Feb 16, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

And I'll phrase it...

…that barely edging out a guy that got murderdeathkilled by Jones and KOing a shot Fedor is less impressive than beating Davis, Rampage and Silva. Tiebreaker goes to the “beef”, which everyone would complain they are wasting if they put Henderson in over Rashad, so it’s can’t win with this crowd.

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by joker24 on Feb 16, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Much agreed

I cant say a victory over an in experienced fighter like Phil Davis propels you into a title shot

by Peter Lee on Feb 16, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Well,

When you were supposed to get a shot 3 times and it doesn’t quite pan out, you take Phil Davis as a tune-up.

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by halitosis on Feb 16, 2012 10:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Dan held two belts in Pride, let's not discount his accomplishments

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by Chris Hall on Feb 17, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Pride's belts didn't mean much to begin with

And he never defended either of his titles. Shogun’s accomplishments in PRIDE far eclipse Hendo’s despite the fact he never had one of their belts.

I’m not trying to discount is achievements, but him having two belts around his waist was meaningless compared to his actual quality of wins.

by discoandherpes on Feb 17, 2012 2:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Dan was a UFC tournament champion.

and a 2 division PRIDE champ
slap yo self.

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 17, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

He's had a great career

But all of those accomplishments you listed are superficial compared to his actual quality of wins.

by discoandherpes on Feb 17, 2012 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I would love to pick-up for Shogun here...

But I can’t help but agree with you that his Knee’s are just not enabling him to be the fighter he could be and he will only continue to steeply delcine..

by RayRayJr on Feb 17, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus

there really isn’t anybody else at 205 that I can think of that has the right to challenge for the title. Still seems a little early for Gustaffson, if his last fight lasted a little longer maybe I would have changed my mind. It was an impressive win but there wasn’t really any opportunity for him to show his progress.

by av1o3 on Feb 16, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

There is no one else

Frankly, thats the only reason Dan’s next in line for the title. Dan’s not at the top of the class, Jones has just beaten everyone else. LHW is shortly going to be MW and WW, where all the elite guys in the division have already lost to the champ.

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by warren305 on Feb 16, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Machida has lost 3 of his last 4. He doesn’t deserve a fight with Hendo right now, sorry. Give Machida someone like Matyushenko or Shogun or Griffin, not someone who is a win away from a title shot.

As for Hendo, maybe give him a middleweight fight? Or a franklinweight fight, I don’t really care. I’d like to see him fight the Nogueira-Gustafsson winner for a title shot.

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by Jeffrey McCrum on Feb 16, 2012 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed about Machida, that would be a really stupid fight for Hendo to take at this point.

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by Horselover Fat on Feb 16, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Shame on you Dana!!

Gimme a break Dana…Hendo is the #1 contender without a doubt!! Rashad Evans is going to get embarrased and I can’t believe people are still talking about Bisping!! No need to post the K.O shot!! Dana show Hendo the respect he deserves and give him a shot at Jones. Dan Henderson is a warrior and has never sat out for a year waiting for a fight, unlike Rashad. Hendo is a true UFC hall of famer and his record speaks for itself. Dana holds grudges against fighters and I’m pretty sure if Hendo hadn’t of been at the top in strikeforce, Dana would have never of brought Hendo back into the mix. I can’t say much more than that, I guess I’m just disappointed that Hendo’s career is coming to an end and he’s going to take a back seat to Sugar “Softboy” Evans!! Much respect Hendo, what ever happens you will always be one of the greatest.

by Peter Lee on Feb 16, 2012 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

WHO AM I

Someone who has been in the business a long time..so ease your tone there Mr prisoner of war

by Peter Lee on Feb 16, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Lol wtf are you talking about dude

Dan’s currently turning down fights and waiting for a title fight, is certainly “in the mix”, and if Dana had a grudge against Dan he wouldnt be in the UFC. Let alone being allowed to wait for a title fight in the weight class of his choosing.

I will not feed you again.

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by warren305 on Feb 16, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

So your saying Dana doesn’t hold grudges?

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by frosty31 on Feb 16, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure if serious...

if Dana had a grudge against Dan he wouldnt be in the UFC. Let alone being allowed to wait for a title fight in the weight class of his choosing.

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by warren305 on Feb 16, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that's something to lol about

Do you also go by the name “Shannon Ritch”?

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by halitosis on Feb 16, 2012 10:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

lol

red

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 16, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

BAH rec I mean

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 16, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha

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by Chris Hall on Feb 16, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate you

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 16, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I know, I forgot to send that pic of TheFilt

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by Chris Hall on Feb 16, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 16, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

dude yeah, and hendo's fist is going warpspeed

please let that be gif trickery

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by mollcutpurse on Feb 17, 2012 2:44 AM EST up reply actions  

That IS the point of greatest acceleration in a punch

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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 17, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Gustaffson or however you spell it.

OR GIVE HIM THIAGO SILVA.

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by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Feb 16, 2012 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

Gustaf’s son. = Gustafsson. Easy peasy!

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by Horselover Fat on Feb 16, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You mean Gustaffson?

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by T.C. Engel on Feb 16, 2012 9:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Nah, Gustaff

Son

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by warren305 on Feb 16, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

son of the staff of Gus?
anyone?

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by Victor Rodriguez on Feb 16, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

lol oh why do you ask!! Must be a friend of Dana lolol

by Peter Lee on Feb 16, 2012 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

I doubt you're actually laughing out loud

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by halitosis on Feb 16, 2012 10:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

well in his defense...

he apparently was laughing out loud out loud

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by flyingkneetoface on Feb 17, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Just book the Shogun rematch already.

He is going to end up waiting around and we get another Rashad situation. I think they will book it soon haven’t heard anything about Shogun or Hendo recently. Shogun won the first fight and got robbed by the judges as usual plus he Shogun doesn’t lose rematches.

by nickrodamous on Feb 16, 2012 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

Hahahha

Classic. I remember that and when he lost to Anderson Silva why he doesn’t deserve a rematch anymore than Vitor Chris Leben lol

by nickrodamous on Feb 16, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude...Jake Shields

Just to bring everybody back to earth on this whole Dan Henderson world beater talk

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by warren305 on Feb 16, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Should have kept Forrest Griffin

for this rather than wasting him on Tito

Also, Franklin rematch?

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by Stiff Jab on Feb 16, 2012 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

Only at 5 rounds..that was a great fight

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by Chris Hall on Feb 16, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I see it now

Hendo vs Anthony Perosh UFC 146

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by clayguidashair on Feb 16, 2012 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

Hendo needs a low-risk fight against a fighter with a name

I say put him in against Franklin

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by WARistotle on Feb 16, 2012 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

How is Franklin low risk?

Their first fight was incredibly close and I think Franklin would have won a 5 round fight.

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by Chris Hall on Feb 16, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is actually a pretty damn high risk fight considering Franklin got screwed out of that decision a few years back.

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by Jeffrey McCrum on Feb 16, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a very close fight

I wouldn’t say either fighter got screwed regardless of which way that decision went.

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by Chris Hall on Feb 16, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

1st time I watched it I thought Rich won

2nd and 3rd time Hendo.

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 16, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I had it for Hendo, but it was an all time great fight and by no means a robbery

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by Chris Hall on Feb 16, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Basically, Henderson SHOULD have taken the Rogerio fight

I think it would have been a pretty easy win.

At this point, if Henderson is fighting for a title, he should be doing some ‘damage control’ on his record and legacy and try to go out with as many avenged losses as possible.

Rogerio and Rampage rematches would be extremely fun to see. Hell, I’d even like a rematch with Big Nog in a heavyweight fight.

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by Chris Groves on Feb 17, 2012 1:01 AM EST reply actions  

Is it selfish...

…To ask Hendo and Shogun to endure another plane-crash-of-a-fight this spring? Fuck man, how easy is it to hype that fight? Play a few clips of the barn-burner it was, slice in a few “It was the greatest fight I’ve ever seen” testimonials, and we’re set. And if Shogun wins, we’ve potentially got the best trilogy in the history of MMA on our hands.

by medium seen on Feb 17, 2012 3:07 AM EST reply actions  

Lyoto would be a good fight that the fans would like to see, but it doesn’t make sense for Dan. He’s old, and this is probably his last go around.

And much to my disdain, on paper Lyoto has lost 3 of his last 4. The win over Randy… well obviously Randy was nowhere near his prime, and the win over Shogun was highly controversial. Some people probably make the case he has not had a solid win since UFC 98 with Rashad. Which is why I would like to see him fight Dan, since he is my favorite fighter and I desperately want to see him get some momentum back.

by Dev93L on Feb 17, 2012 5:49 AM EST reply actions  

Somebody call Rich Franklin

Looks like there’s a rematch to be made for him.

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by KGNLuc on Feb 17, 2012 6:51 AM EST reply actions  

from hendo's twitter
Was never offered machida. And even though he has lost 3 out of his last 4, I’m sure it would be entertaining

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by Johnathan Willis on Feb 17, 2012 8:26 AM EST reply actions  

Good

Give him Machida, then. Problem solved.

by Baba Booey on Feb 17, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Hendo got tooled by Jake Shields, who currently isn’t a too 5 WW. Crazy.

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