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Showtime Sports just put out a new promo for the March 3rd Strikforce main event between Miesha Tate and Ronda Rousey. Check it out.

3 months ago Beer-monster-737681_tiny Tim Burke 53 comments 3 recs  | 

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outstanding work sir!

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by Roman727 on Feb 14, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I want Barnett vs. Cormier!!111

That is all. Carry on.

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by KGNLuc on Feb 14, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That's an excellent promo

Take the idea of “looks” selling fights out of the equation, and that’s still an excellent promo.

Let’s assume I’ve never seen MMA before, if I see this spot I understand: who’s fighting, why they’re fighting, and why I should care.

Well done.

by PackMMA on Feb 14, 2012 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

yep it is an excellent promo

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by T.P. Grant on Feb 14, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

good promo

i dig these type of promos than the rawr nu metal crap you normally get

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by MaZZacare on Feb 14, 2012 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

she is not smart.

every time she talks, she makes herself look worse. it’s not constitutional to test for weed? what the fuck is she talking about? GSP should let nick win? clueless.

by tha dude on Feb 14, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

just because you disagree with her opinions doesn't mean that she isn't smart

I completly disagree with her take on the whole GSP vs Diaz thing, but i still recognize that she is a very smart person. If i’m not mistaken her mom has a PhD is something, so one could say that it runs in the family.

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by darkotto23 on Feb 14, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I like that promo as well

I would be remiss if I did not point out the use of shadowing and strategic camera angles to obscure Meisha’s face, as opposed to a full frontal shot of Ronda’s face and her greater camera time in relative terms. Translation – Showtime knows a butterface when it sees one.

by SteamboatWillie on Feb 14, 2012 2:08 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Not really

And certainly not as much or as clearly as Ronda’s face is shown. watch it again – the butterface is minimized.

by SteamboatWillie on Feb 14, 2012 9:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm Just gonna leave this here......Discuss

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by Roman727 on Feb 14, 2012 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

are they serious with this

IT’S NOT JUST LOOKS… THAT CAN KILL

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by mollcutpurse on Feb 14, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

I see what you did there

I played the SHIT out of that record in the 80s.

/old.

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by Dave Strummer on Feb 14, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Had a dream about this fight the other day.

Early clinch, Ronda with the takedown, fakes the transition to armbar, brutal ground and pound finish. About 32 seconds.

by CB_MMA on Feb 14, 2012 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

Mobile slow clap gif for you, sir.

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by POW on Feb 14, 2012 5:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Last night I had a dream where I was Hitler on the lam from the Russian Army.

My masterful evasion strategy was to shave off my mustache. It worked. I woke up initially feeling relieved, then later felt very weirded out by the whole thing.

I’m going to interpret that as meaning honda by harmbar.

by Balrog on Feb 14, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Your hypothetical Hitler would've gotten away with it.

So you think your dream means the beautiful blond Aryan woman will win? Of course.

by M.Sphinx on Feb 14, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Great promo!

"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

by Horselover Fat on Feb 14, 2012 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Got Dammit

That elbow gets me everytime

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by Elitex10x on Feb 14, 2012 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

Very nice promo. I hope it draws in some viewers, the ladies deserve it.

by Empty Thoughts on Feb 14, 2012 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

I've got no sound at work

but that promo looks fantastic. Really though, I don’t need the sound.

by Cocytus on Feb 14, 2012 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

Well

1)That ad was less offensive than I expected (Yay?), but the general direction showtime has been going with this is still fairly disturbing. Unfortunately, when your target audience is 18-35 year old men wearing __________ (fill in the blank with random MMA t-shirt brand) T-shirts to BW3, marketing women’s MMA athletes as sexual objects is likely to generate more cash than the much more obvious method of marketing them as MMA athletes. I’m not sure what my overriding point is here short of “We sure have a fucked-up way of treating women.” Sex has always sold, I don’t really have a problem with female fighters using their looks to push themselves or their sport, I just hate the fact that we operate in a system where they are more or less forced to do so, and where promoters (see basically the entire history of women’s J-MMA) push them to sell that way.

2)I tend to think it’s a bad idea to highlight the word “Kill” when you’re trying to sell MMA. Obviously, it’s just a turn of phrase, but this is the sort of stuff promoters need to be cognoscente of when you’re trying to push a violent, controversial sport into the mainstream.

3)I really hope this fight turns into fireworks, and pushes women’s MMA, MMA on showtime, and MMA in general up a rung.

by brainuse on Feb 14, 2012 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

I got as far as “disturbing”.

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by Tim Burke on Feb 14, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

TLDR or you think I’m ridiculous for having issues with women’s MMA fighters being pushed as sex objects?

by brainuse on Feb 14, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  


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by RolloTomasi on Feb 14, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

See my post below. St. Pierre and Jones are pushed primarily as dominant mma fighters who also might happen to be attractive men. Rousey and Tate are being pushed as attractive women who also might happen to be dominant mma fighters.

by brainuse on Feb 14, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

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by RECE ROCK on Feb 14, 2012 6:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Every time I scroll by that Jones image at work two drops of pee are shocked out of my body...

hoping nobody was looking over my shoulder and hoping my computer doesn’t freeze at that precise moment.

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by NickRingp4pGOAT on Feb 15, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough. I judged your post unfairly, and have now read it all. I think it was the formatting. Anyway, I think they have to push the sex side of WMMA in this manner. It’s the only effective way to sell a main event between two fighters very few people have heard of. I don’t think it’s very helpful to WMMA longterm, but you gotta do what you gotta do I guess.

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by Tim Burke on Feb 14, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

This post is more or less making my point. Showtime believes the best way to sell two of the best female MMA athletes in the world, is to promote them primarily as hot bodies, rolling around together. That’s a fucked up situation for any professional female athlete to be in, and assuredly not a problem that male MMA athletes have to deal with regularly.

by brainuse on Feb 14, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

the difference

is that most men wouldn’t consider it “having to deal with” anything. (most) certainly wouldn’t see it as a “problem”…

“Look, this fight is going to sell OK but you know what would make the female fans go bonkers? …if we sold you as a bit of a sex symbol” – I doubt many men would take issue with such a statement from an agent/promoter.

More pertinent to your original post, the only way WMMA is really going to take off is if we get an influx of good female athletes at or around 135 or 145. Somewhat of a catch22 since who wants to join in a sport with little to no competition.

"If Tyson Griffin was a girl, I would say he has a badonkadonk." -Joe Rogan

by OmoPlata on Feb 14, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Again, you’re making my point for me.

Your argument is awesome if you ignore a couple thousand years of gender relations with women having to fight to be seen as anything more than sexual objects and baby factories in a patriarchal society.

It doesn’t take a PHD in gender studies to see the flaws there.

On your other note, you’re absolutely right, we need a lot more athletes of a lot higher caliber, jumping into women’s MMA to add depth to the talent pool, in order to up the level of the sport in general. I’m just not sure that’s going to happen any time soon. Converts like Rousey and McMann are a good start, but I don’t know if that trend will continue.

by brainuse on Feb 14, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

You are taking it way too seriously the fact is

There are different ways to promote women and I don’t see anything wrong with it. The contrast of a beautiful woman fighting is intriguing and breaks the norm if it brings more fans to WMMA it is fantastic. It is so hard to get people to watch it. Most male MMA fighters they struggle to get their names recognized, if a woman uses her god given gift to draw attention why not?

by Coeman on Feb 14, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Women I have on Facebook do not post pictures of Roy Nelson

I see GSP a lot.

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by menckenstein on Feb 14, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely no doubt that male MMA athletes get sold and treated as sex objects too. I have no problem with that, as we’re sexual beings. Also absolutely no doubt that female MMA athletes have to deal with the phenomenon x100, and are often sold more as sex objects than they are as athletes. My problem is with tilted the equation is for women.

by brainuse on Feb 14, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Well to be fair most WMMA fighters suck ass to the nth degree

These two women are “the best in the sport” right now. Disparity in skill level plays a huge part.

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by menckenstein on Feb 14, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously the depth level is women’s mma has been, and continues to be, kiddie pool shallow, and there’s not a lot of high level wmma product out there.

But there’s a lot more than that going into forcing the "best in the sport’ to push themselves as “sexy” rather than push themselves as “the best in the sport.”

by brainuse on Feb 14, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

they're trying to sell it that way

because male MMA fans are always accused of being gay for liking to watch two half-naked men roll around on the ground together. now they can be like “I’m straight, that means I like women(’s MMA).”

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by mollcutpurse on Feb 15, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Men are currently the primary

demographic of MMA. But the sex appeal goes both ways. Men want to be the GSP’s and Jon Jone’s and their girlfriends want to do them. Men want to do the Meisha Tates and Rhona Rousey’s and their girlfriends want to be them.

by CRWHITLOCK on Feb 14, 2012 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

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