The Trouble with Stefan Struve
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Stefan Struve is an exciting prospect in the heavyweight division, in many ways reminiscent of a young Alistair Overeem; Struve is gangly and lacks bulk, his record is hit and miss but he's fought some great fighters, he's always exciting, and despite constantly being credited as a kickboxer it is his submission skills that brings home the bacon when he is inevitably getting beaten up on the feet. Just as Alistair Overeem began competing with the best in the world under the PRIDE FC banner at the age of nineteen, Struve was thrown in against Junior Dos Santos (who was coming off a knockout over a top ten heavyweight at the time) in his UFC debut at the tender age of twenty years old. His career still very much in it's infancy, Struve has plenty of time to turn himself into a consistent winning machine as Overeem has, the question is how many hard shots he will eat along the way.
Just as many other kickboxers have before him, Struve has a misplaced confidence in his stand up. It seems as though he believes that the mere fact that he has competed as a professional kickboxer will win him the striking portion of a match - and this same overconfidence has cost him greatly against Junior Dos Santos, Roy Nelson and Travis Browne.

Struve's terrific ground game is not in doubt, his sweep of Sean McCorkle, a powerful top player, and his escape from Pat Barry's side control right into a triangle choke was a thing of beauty. The Dutchman's long frame enables him to sneak in chokes with his arms and legs easier than most fighters, particularly at heavyweight where a great guard game is a rare commodity. This is not to say that Struve's ground excellence is entirely a result of his frame, to say that would be to grossly under-appreciate his technique and timing. His basic hip bump sweep on Sean McCorkle, a powerful top player, completely turned the tide of their match and led to a ground and pound TKO for Struve. It is rare that you see such a basic technique used to such effect against a fighter with the size and experience of McCorkle. Despite his status as a "Dutch Kickboxer", 15 of Struve's 22 wins have come by way of submission while only 5 have come by knockout.

The true hole in Struve's game and what is stopping him from achieving greatness is his refusing to fight as tall on the feet as he does on the ground. Stefan Struve is not a small target, and while he possesses the joint longest reach in the UFC, he consistently fails to use it. A drought of strong jabs is not the only ailment in Struve's striking though; he over-commits when he gets any attack going. Just look at Jon Jones - he is NOT a great striker - but he uses his reach in a way that he can attempt almost any striking technique and rarely be punished for it. Jones uses push kicks to the legs (similar to those Condit used to stifle Hardy and Diaz), biting low kicks to the inside and outside of the thigh, and long straight punches from range to keep his opponents off of him, while moving backwards much of the time.
Struve's desire to constantly walk in is not the way a man with an 84 inch reach should fight, he smothers his punches and exposes himself. In the moments of offence he found against McCorkle on the feet, he backed the stockier man against the cage with a hard straight right, then ran in on top of him, exposing his hips to a massive takedown - when he should have stayed back at range so as not to muffle his punches or lose his reach advantage and looked to land another long right hand or jab. His desire to keep moving his feet forward left him right on top of McCorkle for the easiest takedown of McCorkle's life from a position where he should have been in trouble.

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been enjoying your peices, jack-
keep them coming. as far as the ‘click here to finish reading,’ i dont mind so much when it’s preceeded by some promising, quality content. good stuff.
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by gspmademegay on Feb 14, 2012 11:06 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
I don't mind it too much either when it's for HKL and the pieces are this good.
Needs MOAR southpaw striking guide though, I loved that thing.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 14, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Hahaha cheers man!
Been a busy week and the next one is going to be a big one so I haven’t managed to give it the time it deserves.
BTW what do you think of Stephen Thompson?
I’ve discussed it here a bit there:
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/2/13/2795750/ufc-stephen-thompson-kickboxing-matt-brown
and there:
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/2/11/2698287/how-would-todays-top-kickboxers-do-in-mma
and I’d like to hear your take on him.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 14, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Stefan Struve is what I use to prove to Jones haters that Jon Jones isn't just good because of his reach.
Amusingly it seems like they are who he uses to infer that he’ll get his ass kicked at HW.
Meh
He’s not good exclusively because of his reach, but it certainly helps him a TON. Except that’s a good thing from any rational sports’ fan’s perspective. Physical tools matter, it’s only an MMA fan phenomenon where that’s “bad.”
No one is getting on Anthony Davis for having a 7’6 wingspan being the reason he’s the best college shot blocker I’ve ever seen: it’s a good thing that he’s that long.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Feb 15, 2012 10:47 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Struve needs to put on some muscle, in much the same way that Ubereem did, although preferably without roids.
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by TheLastEmpress on Feb 14, 2012 12:13 PM EST reply actions
He's a professional athlete.
I doubt he’s unfamiliar with performance enhancers.
by Jack Slack on Feb 14, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He's been picking up some weight
I was watching some of his fights the other night, and I sort of passively noticed he was up to 256. At 6’-11", I don’t think Stefan can bulk up too much, and it’s not like he has a lot of body fat he can exchange for muscle weight. I think a weight cut would effect someone like Stefan a lot more, too, though I have no scientific explanation for it. It just seems like, the bigger you are, the harder the toll dehydration takes on you.
I’m also worried about all the strikes Stefan has taken to the noggin, especially in light of Gary Goodridge’s developing brain damage. (Developing? How to say…learning more about what the consequences of his career have had on his mental capacity?)
I’d love to see Stefan become a bigger threat; I genuinely like him, his humility and his heart. The kid doesn’t give up (which would be good, if it weren’t for those strikes to the head) and he delivers surprise victories, which appeals to the Cubs fan in me.
What would be awesome would be to see him sign up to train at Black House; they could certainly tune up his striking and could only help his ground game.
He's getting steadily bigger.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he got up to over 270+ and had to cut to make heavyweight.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 15, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
The trouble with Stefan Struve
Is that he doesn’t have much athleticism. He’s slow, not very explosive and heavy on his feet—-and these aren’t problems that can be fixed by putting on 20 pounds or whatever. He doesn’t fight tall because he can’t.
There are plenty of 7’ basketball players who suck, and that’s a sport that selects for height much moreso than MMA. He can be a low level UFC fighter based on his jits and that being that tall can give him some tricky looks striking, but anyone expecting him to be a contender is gonna be sorely disappointed.
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by joker24 on Feb 15, 2012 10:42 AM EST via Android app reply actions
What about a 6'11 guy?
But that’s the point. I severely doubt that his trainers aren’t trying to get him to jab and “fight tall.” I’d bet every coach who has seen him come through the door tried to get him to do that before he turned pro 7 years ago. That’s the point. He’s so deficient in this stuff that it just can’t be coaching. Then when you see things like the ridiculously awkward flying knee attempt vs. Buentello, it makes sense. He’s just not that athletic.

I’m not talking about the stupidity of the attempt, I’m talking about the hilariously bad execution. That is not the movement of a guy with top-of-professional athleticism.
He moves exactly like the dime-a-dozen awkward 6’11 basketball players who are sitting on the bench in college because the only thing they can really do is be 6’11…..because that’s what he is: an awkward 6’11 guy. Sure being tall and long is an advantage and you can dream on the potential, but it doesn’t do you any good when you’re not athletic/coordinated enough to begin to use it.
I’m sure he’ll get better to some degree since he is still young, but there’s a pretty low ceiling on his potential when he’s not fast, not accurate, not especially powerful and not explosive to any degree. He doesn’t maintain range because he can’t—-everyone still beats him to the punch even jumping in from way on the outside.
Not afraid to nitpick
Every body type has it's advantages and disadvantages.
The individual fighter just needs to learn how to use theirs to the fullest. Short stocky guys can avoid punches, get inside their opponents range and hit where they can’t be hit. Tall lanky fighters can do the same from range. The problem with Struve is that he fights like a guy who 5’2"
Abso-bloody-lutely!
Maybe training with Dirty Bob Schreiber isn’t helping – he’s not exactly a tall dude.
He doesn't even have to use a jab.
If he threw some nice hooks from range, or some long straight punches, it would be perfectly acceptable. Tall fighters can do really well offensively, by using their ranginess to back other fighters against the cage, where they are basically trapped. I do think his striking is improving, as we saw in the Barry fight. He just needs some time to develop as a fighter, and break his bad habits.
Hopefully Stephan learns to counter the strategy to fighting Stephan Struve
1. Walk Up
2. Casually blast in face
3. Repeat
Oddly enough, that’s the same strategy I have with (insert momma joke here)
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