UFC on Fuel: Welterweight Division State of the Union
With so many fights coming up spread across eight different weight classes, it's easy to lose track of what's happening in every division. Here, we take a look at where a particular division stands right now, and where it's headed.
It's funny how quickly a division can fall into such turmoil. For a few years now the Welterweight division has been a stable place, with Georges St. Pierre calmly dispatching all challengers to his dominance. Now, in the span of 2 months, GSP has gone down to injury, Carlos Condit is the Interim UFC Welterweight champion, Nick Diaz has seen his star rise and fall... In short, the division is a crazy place right now. All bets are off and anything can happen, and that makes it a thrilling time.
So what is on deck at 170? Let's see.
Next in Line:
The next Welterweight title shot hinges entirely on GSP's recovery time. He's hoping for a return near the end of 2012, and the obvious fight will be a title unification bout with the Interim champion. Right now that's the #4 ranked Carlos Condit. But the question is - will Condit defend that belt before GSP comes back, and if he does, against who? It looked like he would face #2 Nick Diaz in a rematch of their controversial UFC 143 fight, but Diaz's positive test for marijuana seems to have ended that idea. And so now we get a big question mark here. What is next for Condit? For GSP? For the belt? We may have to wait awhile before we know.
Key Match Ups:
Still, there's no shortage of Welterweights who are itching to take advantage of GSP's absence and get a shot at Condit, which makes these upcoming fights that much more appealing. And one of the best of these fights comes later this week:
- #3 Jake Ellenberger vs. #12 Diego Sanchez (UFC on Fuel TV) - When I ran through the division in December, I said the winner here was my pick for next challenger after Condit vs. Diaz, and I stick by that. Ellenberger has a stronger case - he's on a great run and a main event win over Diego would give him that extra boost. But Sanchez has more name value, and while he may not really have "earned" the shot in the eyes of many, that name will likely propel him to a shot with a win over Ellenberger.
- #7 Jake Shields vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama (UFC 144) - A tough fight here between two very similar UFC careers. Both men came to the UFC with a lot of hype, both barely won in their debuts, and both have failed to win since. A loss here will be Shields's 3rd straight in the UFC, Akiyama's 4th. Hard to see the loser sticking around, but the winner will be right back in it.
- #10 Martin Kampmann vs. #11 Thiago Alves (UFC on FX 2) - At first this looked like nothing more than a highly entertaining fight, but with all the turmoil above these two in the rankings, it's not inconceivable that the winner would suddenly find himself right in the title hunt. Aside from that this should just be a great fight.
- #19 Paulo Thiago vs. Siyar Bahadurzada (UFC on Fuel TV 2) - In all honesty, this probably shouldn't be up here, as both men are still a few fights away from title contention. But I like Siyar and am excited to see what he brings to the UFC, and Thiago is one of those "always dangerous, always in the mix" kind of fighters.
- #13 Rory MacDonald vs. Che Mills (UFC 145) - This one is primarily about MacDonald. The young rising phenom is ready for big things in the UFC. With his only loss coming against Condit, he'd make a great challenger, but I don't think this is the fight to get him there. It's a shame, as he's a teammate to GSP, so once the champ returns, that will put the young MacDonald at a bit of an impasse.
- #5 Johny Hendricks vs. #6 Josh Koscheck (UFC on Fox 3) - This was just announced, and is a big one. Winner here could make a fine substitute for Ellenberger/Sanchez if that winner is injured. Hendricks is red hot after his shocking KO of Jon Fitch, while Kos struggled against Mike Pierce. Another big win for Hendricks will put him at the very top.
In The Mix:
This is rare, but for the moment, I think everyone who is truly in the mix of title contenders at 170 has a fight scheduled. Again, it's an exciting time.
Others to Consider:
Finally, a few names from outside the title picture that should be mentioned:
- #7 Jon Fitch - Maybe he deserves to be in the "In the Mix" category, but that loss to Hendricks really tanked him. Fitch was struggling for contender status when he was winning. Now with a 0-1-1 record in his last two, he's definitely on the outside. He has a tough road ahead if he wants a second title shot.
- #14 Rick Story - Story had great momentum in 2011, but he's slipped away after two straight loses. He still has the tools to get right back in there, but he needs a few wins.
- Erick Silva - The disqualification loss to Carlo Prater at UFC 142 was a shame, but this young fighter still has a very bright future ahead of him. I think he's a future title contender, and look forward to his next fight.
- Stephen Thompson - Yeah yeah, he's only 1-0 in the UFC and his opponent didn't look good, but Thompson has big momentum going for him right now. His unique style makes him stand out from the pack, and his highlight reel KO earned him a lot of fans. He's facing Matt Brown at UFC 145 - a second KO of the Night could fast track him to the upper levels of the division. Whether or not that would be a good thing for the young fighter remains to be seen.
Rankings based on the USA Today / SB Nation consensus rankings, dated January 27, 2012.
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still see GSP vs Condit on the horizon
I think Kos is going to play major ruiner on some nice match ups.
He is the strongest WW not named Fitch, Shields or GSP.
Probably will grind out a decision against Hendricks, I dont think Kos will be testing his predictable punch kick combo and try what fitch couldnt do.
If Kos wins, and makes a case for a title shot, Condit will sit it down and wait for GSP.
Although if Jake wins convincingly against Sanchez that could be a potential interim title match
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If I were Condit
I would definitely wait for GSP. Especially rather than fight Ellenberger. I know fighters are supposed to act like they aren’t scared of losing to anybody, but seriously would you want to risk the chance to fight the biggest name in the UFC against a guy as dangerous as Ellenberger?
The best bet to get that strap is to wait for GSP
If Kos plays ruiner, Condit will have to sit it out.
A more experienced Juggernaut will annihliate condit.
Condit can’t fight a wrestler that can strike heavily, or an extremely powerful wrestler, he will lose.
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Condit can’t fight a wrestler that can strike heavily, or an extremely powerful wrestler, he will lose
You mean like Ellenberger? Who he beat? Or Rory Mac? Who he beat?
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by Our Bovine Public on Feb 13, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
Wow you sound like he totally dominated those fights
Watch the fights buddy.
He was manhandled and throttled by a less experienced Rory and the fight could have continued IMO, if either fight Condit again they will squash him
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Explain to me?
How Is Ellenberger is ranked higher than Condit when he is the interim champ and has previously defeated Ellenberger?
by evenflow10 on Feb 13, 2012 9:07 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Rankings based on the USA Today / SB Nation consensus rankings, dated January 27, 2012.
So for one, these rankings are pre-UFC 134. Also, I imagine those who do the rankings held Ellenberger’s mauling of Shields in higher status than Condit’s KO of Kim. That’s a bit “what have you done lately” but it’s the way rankings often go.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 13, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
When they remake the rankings,
things will shift around a lot. Condit will be number two with either Ellenberger or Diaz number 3 and 4. Hendricks, Kos and Fitch will probably stay the same, and Shields, who for some reason is number 7 with Fitch but I’m making him 8 because he has nothing on Fitch, will stick around that area if he wins and is out of the top ten if he loses. 9 is Bj and I don’t know why but ill leave that one alone. If Kampmann wins, i think he moves to number 8 or 9 and if Alves wins, probably number 10.
I'd love to see Diaz vs. Ellenberger
Though it propably won’t happen anytime soon.
by blutspender on Feb 13, 2012 9:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions
well if ellenberger wins
Then you would have to wait even longer (suspension notwithstanding). Remember the UFC doesn’t like pairing winners with losers.
by benten20 on Feb 13, 2012 10:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
my order *scenario based on Carlos taking a fight before GSP*
1.Ellenberger wins. He gets the next shot
2.Hendrcks wins. (Ellenberger loses; Johny gets the shot)..(Ellenberger wins; Johny gets 3.Alves/Kampmann winner for #1 contender)
4.Diego wins. (Johny loses; Diego gets the shot)….(Johny wins; Diego gets the KampmannAlves winner for #1 contender)
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by F'n Clownshoes on Feb 13, 2012 10:03 AM EST reply actions
Rory Mac is the true lurking shark here
Accounting for the significant change in landscape noted by Fraser, it’s interesting to look back on how thoroughly he was handling Condit before the 3rd round comeback. He dominated Nate in a way that was very un-Diaz. Kid’s a freakish talent and I’d like to see him fight Fitch next.
In retrospect, Condit’s entrance to the UFC seemed flat at the time because no one knew how dangerous Ellenberger was and Kampmann had just dropped from MW. Both of those fights could/should have been draws — they were about dead-even.
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by Dallas Winston on Feb 13, 2012 10:07 AM EST reply actions
Agree on Rory. His biggest problem with his ranking is that his most notable performance was the loss to Condit, where he would’ve won the decision. And that was his first main card fight, and before he went to Tristar full time. His complete domination of Diaz was also super impressive.
by Hardcharger on Feb 13, 2012 10:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree and add that Rory is potentially a considerable asset for ZUFFA. They need to bring him up slow and steady.
by voiceinthedesert on Feb 13, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
The kid is a phenom with years and years still ahead of him
I see him being the next GSP.
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Kampmann/Condit was probably the closest UFC fight I've ever seen
First time I simply could not pick a winner.
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by Charles Awad on Feb 13, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Fraser
What do you think the chances are of the ufc scheduling a defense for condit Versus having him wait for gsp?
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by Chris Hall on Feb 13, 2012 10:51 AM EST via Android app reply actions
That’s a tough question, especially with Diaz out. I think it depends on 2 factors: When will GSP return, and can they find a solid opponent. If one of Diego/Ellenberger/Hendricks/Kos looks really strong in victory, I think there’s a good chance that guy gets the shot. But if those don’t deliver in a big enough way, they may wait it out. That could mean waiting until May, which sucks for Condit and for fans, but also lets them see how GSP is progressing.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 13, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
I only want to see Condit/Ellenberger II if Condit gets past GSP...
because I think Ellenberger/GSP could be an exciting matchup. Erick Silva looks like he could be a beast. I think vs. Rory Mac in the future could be an interesting matchup. Kind of sad Rory won’t likely be fighting for a title if GSP returns to his old ways. Maybe Rory/GSP will turn into a Jones/Evans thing. How’d that story line be?
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by NickRingp4pGOAT on Feb 13, 2012 11:43 AM EST reply actions
Condit vs GSP is the only possible next “title” fight in the options since any fight without GSP isn’t a title fight period.
An interim title fight is still a title fight.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 13, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
But with considerably less sparkle. The only belt that still shines is the one worn by Georges
by voiceinthedesert on Feb 13, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not really arguing that. I'm not really high on interim titles.
But an interim title fight is still a title fight and that’s a fact.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 13, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't he injured atm?
He was supposed to fight Rory Mac?
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by Our Bovine Public on Feb 13, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Ebersole vs. MacDonald was set for 140, but Rory got injured and was replaced by Claude Patrick. I almost put Ebersole in, but that Patrick fight was not great, and I think it cost him some momentum. He can easily get it back next time though.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Feb 13, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Kos is in a really weird situation right now. If he were to get past Hendricks I think he has the style to beat Condit but he’s unlikely to ever get that chance incase he wins and they have to do Kos/GSP again
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by Our Bovine Public on Feb 13, 2012 6:09 PM EST reply actions
I agree
I think Kos, Pierce, and Hendricks all look good against Condit frankly. But Condit was flying under my radar for a while, and I don’t know how strong the wrestlers he’s faced recently are. I know he lost to Shields, but that was a long time ago. I just haven’t seen how strong his TDD is against a wrestle-based fighter. I have the same concern about Condit vs GSP of course.
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Condit beats Pierce easily IMO and probably Hendricks too but I just think Kos is a nightmare matchup for him. His chances increase over 5 rounds though. Condit has fought quite a few wrestlers (Stun Gun, Ellenberger, Larson, Rory Mac (?)) that either haven’t really used their wrestling effectively or weren’t able to take Condit down and hold him there
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by Our Bovine Public on Feb 13, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions

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