Stephen Thompson Vs. Matt Brown Booked For Atlanta's UFC 145
by Josh Nason on Feb 11, 2012 2:29 PM EST
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It didn't take long for kickboxing ace and undefeated MMA fighter Stephen Thompson to get his next fight after a first round knockout win in his UFC 143 debut. He'll take on fellow UFC 143 victor Matt Brown at April's UFC 145 in Atlanta, GA.
Thompson (6-0, 1-0 UFC) used a great head kick to knock out Dan Stittgen in the opening bout of UFC 143, but he'll face a much more experienced fighter in Brown (13-11, 6-5 UFC) who beat Chris Cope by second round TKO on the same event. After three straight second round submission losses, the 31-year-old came through and beat John Howard in a must-win situation.
Brown then proceeded to lose again by second round submission to Seth Baczynski in November before his recent win over Cope. While Thompson will likely want to keep the fight standing, he does have one submission victory in his young career. Brown has been submitted nine times in his career, but has never been knocked out.
The fight is expected to be on the Fuel prelims portion of UFC 145, headlined by Light Heavyweight Champion Jon Jones vs. Rashad Evans.
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Good matchmaking
Matt Brown is beatable but tough
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I think Brown's the favorite here
this is a “let’s throw Thompson right into the deep end” move by Joe Silva.
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Brown should be a favorite
But I disagree with the notion that they are throwing Thompson into the deep end. Brown is probably going to play gatekeeper if he stays in the UFC.
by discoandherpes on Feb 11, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
brown will be lucky to have a job in a few months with guys like del rosario making the bottom of the hw division full
add in the cormier type additions….no room for a lot of guys with .500 records
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I think he’ll stick around as long as he wins. There are plenty of other people who will probably get cut first.
by discoandherpes on Feb 12, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Could be interesting here
Tough pick for me. Gritty veteran vs. crafty technician.
I’ll take Brown UD here.
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i hope your talking about thompson as the veteran...
hes on like a 67 fight win streak or something ridiculous like that. So what if brown has more ufc fights. A fight is a fight.
brown is to slow i think for thompson and it wont end well for him. tko 2nd for tomspon
by barzillatron on Feb 11, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
MMA isn't the same as kickboxing.
Surprisingly enough.
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by MJB! on Feb 11, 2012 2:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yea but a guy trying to beat you up
is the same as a guy trying to beat you up. doesnt matter the rule set involved.
by barzillatron on Feb 11, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Well
He hasn’t been tested against an MMA veteran, and the rules absolutely come into play. It’s naive to think they don’t. Brown has more MMA experience, and I’m thinking he makes this a dirty ground battle.
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I forgot they allowed takedowns, submissions, and ground and pound in kickboxing nowadays
Listen, it’s obvious they are pushing Thompson because they are putting him up against a name that is likely to only fight where Thompson is a known quantity (stand-up), but let’s not conflate kickboxing with MMA unless we are ready to talk about the storied MMA careers of Semmy Schilt, Mark Hunt, or Jerome LeBanner.
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Mark Hunt was a legitimate top 10 heavyweight in his MMA prime
and once Semmy hit his stride (the latter half of his MMA career) he only lost to the absolute best. Not to mention that Cro Cop is without a doubt one of the five heavyweights in MMA history.
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So... each one of those kickboxers got good at MMA after fighting a lot of MMA matches
It is almost as if they had to adjust to new challenges brought about by a different (but related) sport. That is really the only point I am making here, kickboxing=/=mma, and I didn’t really think that would be controversial.
El Santo inspired me to be a submission grappler.
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IMO
A great kickboxer with no other skills does better then a great wrestler with no other skills against your run of the mill jack of all trades mma fighter.
The fight starts on the feet.
Disagree
Diabaté comes to mind as someone with no other skills than striking and he hasn’t exactly been impressive. Wrestlers tend to at least have the positional awareness on the ground to help them avoid subs from mediocre BJJ players, clearing the path for them to L&P until they gain ground and/or striking skills.
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by wonderfulspam on Feb 11, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by wonderfulspam on Feb 11, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Silliest thing i've heard in awhile
I’d like to hear your definition for “beat you up” because wrestlers, bjj players etc all feel they are going in their next match to beat their opponent up
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I agree with you
If Matt Brown were a decent wrestler I’d give him the edge or chance. This is a big step up for Thompson but a showcase fight none the less.
57-0 as a kickboxer, 40 KOs
37-0 as an amateur
20-0 as a professional
6-0 MMA record
That’s 63-0 overall, with 43 KOs…unless he’s had some amateur MMA fights.
The guy has some real skills.
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by Chris Groves on Feb 11, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
He's good.
But if you go by the actual footage available, his kickboxing is good but not as impressive as his record would have you believe. Also he comes from a style of kickboxing (full contact) that is not the more adapted to MMA. He’s also mostly competed in the states which is not exactly a hotbed for kickboxing. Thompson shows promise but is a bit overhyped right now IMO. This is not a gimme fight for him, Brown is tough.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 11, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Of course, it's not like he is a K-1 champ or anything
but still….to win all of those fights without ever getting caught, having an off night, or getting perhaps a bad call on a close fight from the judges….I think it’s still pretty impressive.
There aren’t exactly a ton of people that I believe could boast what he boasts.
According to Wiki, he’s defeated champions from Austria, Germany, Italy, Great Britain, Russia, and Latvia…
It’s not a gimme fight, but I think it’s definitely a sort of ‘tough test he should pass’ kind of thing, like when Weidman got Lawler or when Davis got Boetsch
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by Chris Groves on Feb 11, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
WAKO and IAKSA are pretty obscure and small federations.
They draw from a small talent pool, there’s so many kickboxing titles, most of them don’t really mean much. I definitely agree with you on the “though test” part and I’m not saying that he’s not good, I just feel like people make a bit too much of his kickboxing record.
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by Sweet Scientist on Feb 11, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Brown is always good as a gatekeeper type to test prospects and up-and-comers while taking out guys like Chris Cope or John Howard. This is a tough test for Thompson as Brown is just tough as nails, very experienced, pushes a pretty quick pace, and can make a fight very ugly.
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Matt will try his hardest to take this down
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This is the right choice
Matt Brown is definitely better than Stittgen…but he is very beatable.
PLEASE build him at a steady pace UFC/Joe Silva.
The last thing I want to see is Stephen Thompson vs Jon Fitch on 10 days notice or something. Just because Weidman pulled it off doesn’t mean most would.
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by Chris Groves on Feb 11, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
"Let's not compare him to Machida too much, Joe"
5 second’s later
“It is important to note that his father, as well as Machida’s, encouraged his karate background.”
(paraphrasing)
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Good fight
We find out whether Thompson is a good prospect who can compete in MMA or if he’s a showcase fighter who won’t be successful. Brown is a pretty good gatekeeper. He can throw heavy shots and grapple a bit. Good match up.
by discoandherpes on Feb 11, 2012 3:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Just because it's awesome.
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by Andy Davis on Feb 11, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by Horselover Fat on Feb 11, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
IS
Don’t think he’s done, no one retires just once anymore….not in todays economy.
It's not like he retired from working
He’s still a full time fire fighter
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The guy will always be awesome, retired or not
I say this over and over like a broken record, but at the start of the 3rd round of his fight with Kevin Burns, when he caught Burns’ kick and punched him and busted Burns open…that moment alone solidified me as a lifelong fan of MMA.
I loved the run he put together afterward, the fact that he avenged a loss to Serra, got a second win over Brown, and gave Hardy his 4th straight loss.
If he comes back for a fight or two I’ll wish him the most success…but the guy retired off of a win at an event that he headlined and having won 5 of his last 6 fights….he’s got nothing to hang his head about.
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by Chris Groves on Feb 12, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
Good test for Thompson.
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Brown is durable, read that "great for having Thompson showcase his “skills” so they can build a hype train around the white karate kid/ralph machio.
yay!
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by theworldsoldestsport on Feb 11, 2012 4:15 PM EST reply actions
This is high quality matchmaking.
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Seems like they are testing Thompso early
Brown seems like a big jump in comp.
by fightersvizion on Feb 11, 2012 5:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I love it. Good use of Matt Brown.
If Thompson’s wrestling and ju-jitsu is solid, as advertised, Matt will take a pretty epic beating, and it will be fun as hell to watch. If not, Matt will tap him out and leave him to continue developing a complete game.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 11, 2012 5:24 PM EST reply actions
Anybody know how Machado is training him all the way from Dallas?
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At least Brown doesn't have to worried about getting submitted.
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not that it means much, but Stephen Thompson is a black belt in BJJ for what its worth these days in 2012
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by discoandherpes on Feb 11, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
He’s BB in Japanese JJ, blue belt in BJJ.
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by dancingChicken on Feb 12, 2012 8:21 AM EST up reply actions
What makes you say that?
It’s not like Brown has only been subbed by top level BJJ players (a la Sonnen). I’m sure Thompson’s brother-in-law will teach him a trick or two.
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by wonderfulspam on Feb 11, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't call Forrest Griffin a "top level BJJ player"
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Well excuse me
For disregarding fights from 2003. You’re right, of course, but my point still stands: it’s not like Brown beats up everybody but gets subbed by Brazilians (and Jeremy Horn).
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by wonderfulspam on Feb 11, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'll excuse you, but only this once.
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I actually didn't realize he had that much grappling experience.
Didn’t think he would have had time with all those kickboxing credentials.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 12, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
I loved the post fight celebration almost as much as the knockout
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by Earltron on Feb 11, 2012 9:43 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Does anyone have info on
when tickets will go on sale for 145 in Atlanta? I will definitely be going. This will be my 5th UFC – 2nd in Atlanta. Any info on when the tix go on sale will be appreciated.
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by Nodir Shermatov on Feb 12, 2012 3:49 AM EST reply actions
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