Pot can be a performance enhancer (serious thread)
by KIARIOracer on Feb 11, 2012 3:06 PM EST
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PrintI wrestled and boxed growing up, I was very good at the former and quite average at the latter. I would always reason losses in my own head by saying "well I lost beacuase the guy just has better hands, if this were a fight I could just put him on his back and pound his face in" or "well he can beat me in a wrestling match but anyone at the level of wrestling to beat me can't beat me in a stand up fight and I'd see his takedown coming a mile away then".
After graduating High School I started training BJJ and MMA. I found that i was very well suited for it, I was in great shape and still had my High School wrestling work ethic. So I decided to take a fight. The training went fine, I was injury free and felt extremely confident. But a couple of days out my mind started to panic, what if all this training doesn't pay off? What if I get embarrassed?... It was 10X more stressful the day of the fight but I managed to win fast enough that the adrenaline was still coursing through my veins. I had 1 more fight that went the same way , then I had a fight go the distance and found out how badly my body and mind reacts to the dreaded "adrenaline dump".
I found that if I smoked just before a fight I was much more calm and would perform much better (I was happy to give up some speed for the ability to get my mind right). The last fight I had was a few years ago in Cedar Rapids Iowa at the ISCF MMA Amateur championships. The only problem was I wasn't able to "relax" the way I used to since I was in a town I didn't know. The semifinals went fine, I won (by anaconda choke after crushing the guys ribs with a kick) fast enough that the "dump" didn't have a chance to rear its ugly head. The finals went terrible though, I went out and tried for the same choke and that mother fucker wouldn't tap and when he didn't, my body told my mind "fuck you pussy, you're on your own". 5 minutes later the ref was pulling him off of me and I barely had the energy to stand.
I have since "retired" but looking back at that fight I know If I could have just gotten my head right I would have EASILY won. I'm not assuming Nick Diaz has the same mental block as I do (he probably doesn't) but thats one mans argument for why pot can be used to enhance someones performance.
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I seriously doubt Diaz smoked weed right before the fight
So the issue of whether not it would calm you down in the actual fight is irrelevant.
Well maybe it helps him relax to train
I only wanted to point out how it can be used as a performance enhancer.
Lets ban...
Alcohol and blowjobs then.
Get a grip.
by Conor the Bold on Feb 11, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I dont think pot should be banned
Most people say it cant help you during a fight though, and I’m arguing for me, it did.
even if he did smoke
right before & it calmed him down so what..I listen to fearless by pinkfloyd before i play basketball at my ymca league because it calms me down, is pink floyd enhancing my performance??
BTW i smoke before playing sports & it doesnt take the nervousness/butterflys away at all
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by Leland Roling on Feb 11, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
For you pinkfloyd is then, but it's legal...
And maybe weed doesn’t take the nerves away for you, but it did for me.
I should have started the thread out by saying " pot is great but...
Now I’m being eaten alive by the “heads”…
Yes...
because everybody that disagrees with you is a pothead.
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by Conor the Bold on Feb 11, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
You're certainly acting overly defensive
He has a point, we have no idea how Diaz reacts to pot.
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by halitosis on Feb 11, 2012 6:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dude
There’s like comments 10 comments and half of them are yours. Nobody is even being very rude.
I don’t see how anyone could even want to think and discuss anything about Diaz at this point. The topic was beat to death 4 days ago.
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Those are not pot heads. This place is full of grumpy old people.
I, for example enjoyed your insight, because my athletic activities while high are
limited to going to grocery and buying food while trying to look normal.
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by dancingChicken on Feb 11, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
prepared to be attacked by the army of potheads
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The horror!
Any minute the blood thirsty pot head mob will come for your head, too.
The victimization thing he’s pulling is pathetic.
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Now you're overreacting
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by halitosis on Feb 11, 2012 6:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I disagree
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
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Any army of potsheads would never attack one person
They would sit around the TV complaining about how the government is keeping them down and eating a shit load of snickers bars while chuckling uncontrollably, but not attack anyone.
by discoandherpes on Feb 11, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
While I doubt Nick was high during the fight
I’m going to relate an experience I had with pot recently and it made me think.
For clarification, I’m a big smoker. I burn at work, I burn at home. I pretty much burn whenever I can get away with it.
So I just had purchased a new pair of winter boots (side note: finding size 17 is a bitch and mad expensive) and they were painful as fuck when I got them. So I walked home after getting them, stone sober and by the time I made it home I could barely walk. That’s how bad they hurt.
Later that night after much burnings I reluctantly threw the boots on to go get some food and I noticed that while stoned it wasn’t that I wasn’t feeling the pain it’s that I just didn’t care about it. I was able to walk no problem even though I knew I was in mad pain.
So, while I doubt that Nick burned one down just before he went out there, I can see how it could be considered to be performance enhancing.
I dunno. Just my $0.02
it has the opposite effect for me
If I’m kinda hot then me being high makes me feel like im burning up and vice versa for cold. Same with pain, it makes me only concentrate on the hurting and nothing else. But chemicals have different effects on different people.
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where do you work
that you can get away with smoking?
Also, how tall are you that you wear size 17 boots? I wear a 16 at 6’2 and I thought I was unlucky haha
by OneFitchTwoFitchRedFitchBlueFitch on Feb 11, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
I wear a 16 at 6’2 and I thought I was unlucky haha
That’s crazy. I thought I had big feet wearing 12’s at 5’9" but that’s ridiculous.
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He's only 6'2" and has to buy special shoes
That’s crazy.
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I don't say that was crazy
I’ve been made fun of and called out for wearing skiis or clown shoes many times, but no, I didn’t think they were huge.
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Hung over
I never said my feet were crazy, I said his were.
I said I thought mine were big. Most people my height wear like 9 or 10.
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haha and
I’m in the military. Such a pain in the ass finding every kind of boot and shoe we need
by OneFitchTwoFitchRedFitchBlueFitch on Feb 12, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I think for every size over 13
Its an additional inch.
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Jesus Christ you have clown feet haha
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by OneFitchTwoFitchRedFitchBlueFitch on Feb 12, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I have a pretty sweet job
I’m a chef. The owners know I burn at work and they don’t care as long as my job gets done.
Every time I feel like smoking I just tell one of my flunkies to watch the kitchen and I step outside. There’s a park just outside the back door to the kitchen so I have a pretty slick set up.
Oh and I’m not much taller than you. I’m 6’3" I just happen to have freaky Frodo feet.
by monkeystyle on Feb 12, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I don't disagree BTW
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You make a good point
however as others have noted it effects people differently,
and that is why i dont think it qualifys as a PED.
The only perfomance enhancing effects it has on everyone
is that it temporarily increases metabolism which when
working out can help you lose weight faster.
however as others have noted it effects people differently,
and that is why i dont think it qualifys as a PED.
contrary to popular belief, steroid don’t work for 100% of people and while some people (like pro bb’ers) respond extremely well.
therefore this argument = crap
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Mabye I should have worded that better
but either way comparing the consistency of marijuanas effects
to that of steroids is silly. Steroids are taken with the intent to
enhance the body, its their primary effect and is the reason
that people illegally take them.
Marijuana is drug that primarily effects the mind and therefore has a
much wider variety of different effects. The fact that certain people can
gain a slight mental advantage because of their specific disposition,
just doesnt do it for me.
I mean say a fighter has bad anxiety, and takes a prescription drug
for it, is that a PED? I just dont see how it is.
That is a very interesting argument.
It’s rumored that Fedor drinks a small tumbler of vodka before his fights. It’s a fine balance between being too calm, or too anxious. Gegard Mousasi, for example, can sometimes be TOO lax in his fights; King Mo was able to exploit this. Then on the opposite end of the spectrum, you have guys like Diego Sanchez, who gets so pumped up that he is often sloppy, and pays for it early.
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by TheLastEmpress on Feb 12, 2012 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
Is he really sloppy because he's pumped up?
I tend to think he’s just sloppy. Then again, maybe it’s just the curse of the power he possesses.
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by wonderfulspam on Feb 12, 2012 8:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good call.
And I think that Garcia’s aggression and sloppy technique go hand in hand, neither one necessarily causes the other.
There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?
by ElliotMatheny on Feb 12, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
you sounded like me when i was in middle school
yah he can beat me at basketball but i can beat him at chess
yah he can beat me at chess but i can beat him at basketball
of course i was 12 when i thought like this
by AnotherBadPrediction on Feb 11, 2012 9:01 PM EST reply actions
Pot is great
But, It’s no Michael Bisping
On the topic I just moved and in my new city, and synthetic weed is huge. Is it getting big all over or just where I am at?
That stuff is literally garbage. It’s been popular for quite a while now. I just understand why people smoke that instead of real weed.
by RagingBronco on Feb 12, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t understand why people smoke that instead of real weed.
by RagingBronco on Feb 12, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
They banned it where I live, thankfully.
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by Zachary Kater on Feb 13, 2012 5:36 AM EST up reply actions
all over
its HUUUUUUGE in the military. So is synthetic coke
by OneFitchTwoFitchRedFitchBlueFitch on Feb 12, 2012 11:34 AM EST reply actions
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