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Nick Diaz: Hero to Millions

Nick Diaz is a great man. Like all great men, he can sometimes be misunderstood. I myself have been guilty of this in the past, but I have since realized the error of my ways.

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Greatness.

What this incorrigible rapscallion has managed to do for the advancement of society is nothing short of monumental. You know all those weird noises people have been putting on youtube? That's the Diaz Paradigm Shift bitch. The fact these noises occurred long before the Condit fight is inconsequential.

Nick Diaz has blazed a trail for millions of Closet Marijuana Users across the country, and I salute him.

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This is not the place for discussing what rules were in place that Diaz broke. We are all painfully aware at this point that there was indeed a rule (asinine) and Diaz did indeed break it (awesome). If you came to beat that dead horse some more please wheel yourself back in front of the fire and I will bring you some nice tea and a blanket, I know how very cold grandma can get.

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This is you.

I consider myself an expert on marijuana and it's effects on the gamut of human experience. Using myself as a guinea pig I have experimented continuously with marijuana for over 17 years. I have observed it's effects on myself and others for well over 10,000 hours, in every conceivable situation, all for the benefit of mankind. As someone who is intimate with the drug in question as I am, I would like to clear up some misconceptions I have been seeing with alarming regularity.

1. Pot in no way shape or form can be considered an athletic performance enhancer. Please stop with this bullshit because when you say this all you are really saying is "I have never used marijuana, and I have NEVER used marijuana then tried to do any sports, ever." On weed, you will run slower, you will lift less, you will quit sooner, to say nothing of the debilitating psychological effects. Yes, weed has a great effect on pre-existing pain, but pain inflicted while under the influence can feel many times worse then when not. That means it's worse to take punches, not better.

Weed is the Anti-Sport. If Diaz was under the influence of weed during a fight it would put him at a disadvantage, which makes him all the more fucking awesome.

2. Diaz did not test positive for Weed, but weed metabolites. Which basically means "There isn't weed here right now, but there totally just was, like, a little while ago. You just missed him." Which means he probably was not under the influence of marijuana at any time during the days leading into the fight.

3. Weed is awesome. Wait, what?

4. Ummmm.....

5. Diaz' weed use somehow prevents him from fighting regularly, thus "costing" the "fans." Horse shit. Diaz is one of the most active fighters in MMA. He was there to save 137 when GSP no-showed, and he saved 143 when GSP no-showed again, and he will be there in 6 months when GSP no-shows AGAIN. GSP drinks red wine. Need I say more?

So I was going somewhere with this.... Oh yea! Nick is throwing up the big ol Stockton finger to the Conservative Weed Suppressing Establishment. His Not give a Fuckness could be no more resplendent than it is at this very moment.

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And lo, light descended from Heaven; and I knew Diaz was with me.

It shines, a beacon in the dark to those of us that maintain jobs, careers, families, academics... Lives. And we maintain them while nicely toasted, not hurting anyone, just like everyone should be able to freely do if they choose.

But we can't. We have to hide, we have to pretend to be something we are not. We have to cower in our homes, fearful of legal and moral reprisal, all the while existing in this horrifying societal cesspool of hypocrisy. Watching, waiting, anticipating.... A Hero.

That Hero is Nick Diaz. He says Fuck YOUR MOTHERRRRRRRS to that shit. He hits the bong while on conference calls and works on his mufuckin nunchuk technique. He blazes hard in his feverish fight preparations, throwin up mad fuckin gogos and hooks, claiming that his fighting career is getting in the way of his pot smoking. He would love to blaze more, but he can't because of all these stupid fuckin piss tests.

I can feel that. Can't you, good sir?

Go and drink 30 shots at the bar. Maybe you commit assault, drive home drunk, beat your wife, rape a chick, kill someone. Maybe you don't. Either way the government is cool with the whole situation.

But don't sit in your living room and smoke a joint, eat some food, and fall asleep. The government will FUCK YOUR SHIT UP.

Nick Diaz has had enough of this shit. And he is taking it to the Man one No Contest at a time.

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How bad do you want to see Diaz fight again?
Pretty Fuckin bad.
207 votes
Meh.
28 votes
I'm watching the Condit fight right now.
5 votes
That's my Grandma you Fuck!
20 votes

260 votes | Poll has closed

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Fighting is his profession…

I'd rather be trollin'.

by thirdparty on Feb 10, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

True

but that’s not his point is it?

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 10, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m just saying, that makes him a professional fighter.

I'd rather be trollin'.

by thirdparty on Feb 11, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I like pot

I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you!

by attgnp on Feb 12, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

wow dumb comment from me

sorry I was mixing beer, vodka, jagermeister, and wild turkey.

I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you!

by attgnp on Feb 12, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

let me help you;

“This is not the place for discussing what rules were in place that Diaz broke”

by phantom5691 on Feb 11, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 10, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

I am an expert, did you not see my fucking credentials?

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by Shotokanman on Feb 11, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Anecdote

My friend Ray was a terrible basketball player. His friend Paul was a high school running back, athletic enough. Dave was a 6’2" man, and a conservative teetotaling Xtian. I am 6’5" and a decent player of basketball. Ray and I were really stoned; the others, not so much. We got in the car to drive us all to some empty local court, Ray and I in the front seats, Paul and Dave in the back. A block away I looked back and realized that one of the car’s back doors was open and that there were no people whatsoever sitting back there. Looking through the back window now I saw Dave hurling a basketball off the pavement in fury. SOMEHOW Ray had taken off without noticing that the others weren’t fully in the car yet. Needless to say we were demoted to the back seat and someone else drove.

Still baked as fuck, Ray and I won the first game 15 – 0.

You’ll never convince me that weed is never, in any circumstance, a performance enhancing drug. I would never be so arrogant as to pretend I know what it’s like to fight someone while baked, but I can attest that Ray and I were so in sync and so absorbed in what we were doing in that basketball game that it wasn’t contested on a fair playing field.

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by dribblebib on Feb 11, 2012 12:41 AM EST reply actions  

It may be a total buzkill to those of us that are trying to grow the meme of Nick_Diaz = Pothead Savant but...

The simple truth of the matter is that he wasn’t high as a kite during that fight. He was completely sober…or at least as sober as you can naturally be when you are Nick Diaz (which means you are 55% under the influence of all drugs known to man if you are everyone else).

Everyone should at the very least understand this.

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by Unabomberman on Feb 11, 2012 1:32 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I do not disagree, at all.

It’s just that there are so many terms at stake here. The ambiguity of truth should not be sacrificed on the alter of being right or wrong.

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by dribblebib on Feb 11, 2012 3:23 AM EST up reply actions  

But that doesn't matter in this case.

Diaz didn’t have enough MJ on his system to be under the influence of anything.

On the other hand, I can probably see what you were saying about it having been ‘performance enhancing’ in your particular case, but, again that wasn’t Nick’s case, at all.

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by Unabomberman on Feb 11, 2012 3:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Diaz didn’t have enough MJ on his system to be under the influence of anything.

This statement confuses me. How do you know that for certain? All we know is he tested positive for the stuff, not how much or when it might have last been used.

"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

by Horselover Fat on Feb 11, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

He tested positive for having metabolites in his system.

That doesn’t even mean he used in, say, two weeks, at all. Anything else after that is pure speculation, and we do know that Nick didn’t fight like someone under the influence of anything other than a bunch of adrenaline.

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by Unabomberman on Feb 11, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

The repeated mentions of Ray lend this story a credibility and color it would have lacked otherwise.

Seriously everytime I come back here I have to read this thing. It’s awesome.

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by Shotokanman on Feb 12, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s historically legitimate at this point.

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by dribblebib on Feb 11, 2012 3:19 AM EST up reply actions  

LINSANITY!!

…but what’s going to happen when Carmelo comes back? Maybe he should hang out with Diaz and watch some Mystery Science Theater…

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by BrothersGottaAndyHug on Feb 11, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

How hard is it for people to understand that ...

1. It’s illegal, whether that makes sense or not.

But more importantly:

2. You cannot have fighters … in fights … fighting under the influence.

It would be amusing to hear fighters blame losses on a bad stash. “Yeah Joe, I was disappointed in my performance. But this kush I picked up last night is just schwag and really threw me off my game, so what can you expect?”

by benhamil on Feb 11, 2012 2:09 AM EST reply actions  

Except he wasn't under the influence. Why can't you understand this?

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by Unabomberman on Feb 11, 2012 2:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Do we know that?

Now I highly doubt he smoked a bowl before his fight of course, but we don’t KNOW that do we? Correct me if I’m wrong but all we know is that a urine test (which is what he took) cannot PROVE when he took it. So his failing the test doesn’t prove he was high during the fight, but his failing the test also doesn’t prove he wasn’t high during the fight.

We have no idea if he was under the influence or not. We simply know the test he failed cannot prove he was (only that there were remnants of the drug in his system). Is that not correct?

by carpediem on Feb 11, 2012 7:52 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This. Completely agreed. We simply don’t know whether he has actually high or not, only that he tested positive.

"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."

by Horselover Fat on Feb 11, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait, wait, you said this:
2. You cannot have fighters … in fights … fighting under the influence.

I’ll go ahead and admit that I can’t know for sure that he was under the influence of weed, but what I can say is that someone who is under the influence of weed is more likely to be lethargic than not, and Nick wasn’t lethargic. Now, since he is largely a heavy user, his body may have developed resistance to the weed, but that doesn’t account to the fact that the dude was awake and alert as fuck during the whole match which lends credence to what I said (wrongly, i should admit), and which I’ll try to paraphrase more correctly—it more than unlikely that Nick Diaz was under the influence of weed effects during his fight.

Then you said this:

We have no idea if he was under the influence or not. We simply know the test he failed cannot prove he was (only that there were remnants of the drug in his system). Is that not correct?

Um. Ok?

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by Unabomberman on Feb 11, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Now, since he is largely a heavy user, his body may have developed resistance to the weed

Actually weed has reverse tolerance, which means that the more you smoke, the stronger it effects you.

And come on, Diaz fought under influence and didn’t crack a smile? No way ;)

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by dancingChicken on Feb 11, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the correction.

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by Unabomberman on Feb 11, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, the more you smoke, the more it takes to get high.

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by Shotokanman on Feb 11, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah I have no idea what dancingChicken is talking about.

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 11, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I are confuse now...

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by Unabomberman on Feb 11, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

The more weed you smoke

the less it effects you.
I’m speaking from personal experience.
It’s the same with booze.
If you’ve never drank before, you get trashed quick.
If your Charlie Sheen you could have an IV of Mad Dog and you still wouldn’t catch a buzz.

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 11, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

As I said below, I also speak from experience. After few inhalations, I wondered why it effects me quicker, I did some research and came across the term “reverse tolerance” when it come to smoking weed.
I noticed that effect in my friends earlier, but I thought that maybe I’m just more resistant. Few inhalations later I found out that it’s not the case.

But as with anything else, different folks react different to some drugs.

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by dancingChicken on Feb 12, 2012 7:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't tell if you are serious.

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by Shotokanman on Feb 11, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Reverse tolerance is a fact.

"I'm not the best, but I'm capable of achieving the impossible" - Anderson Silva

by dancingChicken on Feb 11, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

mmm no.

It’s far from that cut and dry.

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by Shotokanman on Feb 11, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s my experience and thing I noticed on my friends (coupled with bits of information here and there), although after doing a little bit of research I see that it’s not set in stone.

"I'm not the best, but I'm capable of achieving the impossible" - Anderson Silva

by dancingChicken on Feb 11, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t say the first one. You are quoting two different people. I only said the second one.

by carpediem on Feb 11, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

I just realized I made a mistake.

But I will pull a Chael Sonnen…
.
.
.
You lie.

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by Unabomberman on Feb 11, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

“Go and drink 30 shots at the bar. Maybe you commit assault, drive home drunk, beat your wife, rape a chick, kill someone. Maybe you don’t. Either way the government is cool with the whole situation.

But don’t sit in your living room and smoke a joint, eat some food, and fall asleep. The government will FUCK YOUR SHIT UP."

that about sums up the hypocrisy of weed being illegal.

nice read, thx

by phantom5691 on Feb 11, 2012 8:42 AM EST reply actions  

thank you

you would no more find unmetabolized thc in his urine than you would little chunks of bud.

This is an oule.

by some schmuck in texas on Feb 11, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Are you sure?

I have smoked enough at times that I would be surprised if I wasn’t pissing pure TCHOkay I’m joking about pissing TCH but damn I would have liked to see our test results.

I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you!

by attgnp on Feb 12, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting...

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by Shotokanman on Feb 11, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

thats right noobs

he wasnt high during the fight for those who says and thinks its 100% ped or simular get a freanking clue next your gonna try on alcohol, freanking nancys lol

I'm being honest about this smoking weed separated me from the holy spirit... It came between me and Jesus. - Diego Sanchez

by Fed0rable on Feb 12, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, really, we have no idea whether he was under the influence during his performance or not.

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by Chris Hall on Feb 12, 2012 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm totally, completely, utterly on board with the main point here

So this might be nitpicking, but I do know people who train BJJ high and say that it benefits them; I can’t speak to that personally, I’ve never rolled stoned, but it’s at least plausible to me. Part of that could just be a significant overlap between the southern California BJJ and weed cultures, though.

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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 11, 2012 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

There is a certain Zone to be found when high, for sure.

But I’m guessing the advantage they talk about has more to do with creativity, flow, and feeling more comfortable, and less to do with how long they could fight off a choke, maintain a grip, etc.

"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere."
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by Shotokanman on Feb 11, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

That’s precisely it. I’m not sure it’d translate to MMA, at any rate.

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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 11, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

This is gold.
And lo, light descended from Heaven; and I knew Diaz was with me.

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 11, 2012 3:39 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

LOL
He was there to save 137 when GSP no-showed, and he saved 143 when GSP no-showed again, and he will be there in 6 months when GSP no-shows AGAIN. GSP drinks red wine. Need I say more?

This is hilarious. I dig it.

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by Tim Burke on Feb 11, 2012 5:57 PM EST reply actions  

good shit man

you kinda made a Diaz fan out of me…..I’m starting to see the dude is simply here to fight, nothing else. I just wish he’d drop the ghetto thug attitude all the time. That just makes him seem like a dick kind of. Oh well I wanna see him again

I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you!

by attgnp on Feb 11, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

But, don't you see? He could sooner remove his own arm than drop what you mentioned.

It is… The Diaz.

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by Shotokanman on Feb 12, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

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