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UFC 143: Roy Nelson Talks PEDs In MMA

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Roy Nelson and steroids aren't something you usually read about in the same sentence. Unlike Alistair Overeem or Junior dos Santos , Nelson doesn't exactly come across as a body builder. But he knows that he has fought guys that have were on PEDs before, and he knows that they're prevalent in the sport. He spoke to MMA Fighting about the subject, and doesn't seem too concerned about it:

"If I can compete with them, and they’re using, it just means I’m a better athlete," Nelson said. "That’s all it means to me."

Nelson also states that he's actually had fighters admit to using before he competed against them:

"You just know," he said. "You know by straight-out asking them. You can do it that way. Or you can go through their coaches or training partners. It’s a very small world."

...

"There’s some verbal combat involved," he explained. "You have to trick them into coming clean, but it does happen."

Apparently Roy isn't competing against MENSA members. While it looks obvious to all the world that Roy isn't someone who uses PEDs, he does mention that his body type actually leads him to getting tested more. Why? Because the people doing the testing want it to look effective:

"I’ve probably been tested for steroids probably more than any other fighter that’s ever fought," he said. "...It’s like a football program. There’s always going to be some guys where it’s like, yeah, you’re the one we’ve got to test, because then the program looks clean."

That is something I never even considered before he said it, and is quite a valid point. Big Country squares off with Fabricio Werdum this weekend in the co-main event of UFC 143.

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Just because he's fat

..doesn’t mean he’s not doped up to the eyeballs. Not saying he is but.

by ToffeeA on Feb 1, 2012 6:07 PM EST reply actions  

absolutely

Just look at Emmanuel Yarborough

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by Earl Montclair on Feb 1, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Tim Bernier on Feb 1, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Would be some pretty shitty PEDs

that make you look like a burst couch. If he were on some and named the product, the company would go bust.

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by Jaspawokki on Feb 1, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

“burst couch”

bravo sir.

by woooburn on Feb 1, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Tim Sylvia and Josh Barnett

aren’t exactly sporting world-class sixpacks. These guys aren’t using to get beach muscles, they’re using for performance and recovery.

by Pantherhare on Feb 1, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Baby Fedor can attest to that

"God loves violence... Why else would there be so much of it? It's in us. It's what we are. We wage war, we burn sacrifices, and pillage and plunder and tear at the flesh of our brothers. And why? Because God gave us violence to wage in his honor... There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?"
- Warden of Ashecliffe Hospital

by ElliotMatheny on Feb 1, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

whatever happened to him?

Don't follow in my footsteps I walk into walls

by MattParker117 on Feb 1, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

that's

funny

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by nicey on Feb 1, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Last I heard, he won gold in the Russian Combat Sambo Championships

Hasn’t fought in MMA since late 2010. I bet he’s still training, he is only 23

"God loves violence... Why else would there be so much of it? It's in us. It's what we are. We wage war, we burn sacrifices, and pillage and plunder and tear at the flesh of our brothers. And why? Because God gave us violence to wage in his honor... There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?"
- Warden of Ashecliffe Hospital

by ElliotMatheny on Feb 1, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

typo

“But he knows that he has fought guys that have were on PED’s before”

by av1o3 on Feb 1, 2012 6:09 PM EST reply actions  

Typo

It’s spelt PIE’s

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by Jaspawokki on Feb 1, 2012 6:21 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Roy's fat we know

WOCKA WOCKA!!!!!!

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by Earl Montclair on Feb 1, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I think six exclamation marks is excessive

in anyones books. Also, Wocka?

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by Jaspawokki on Feb 1, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Wocka Wocka

As was popularized by one Fozzy Bear?

You kids today

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by HeadKickOfDoom on Feb 1, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Muppet? Wocka? Fuzzy Bear?

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by Jaspawokki on Feb 1, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually like Waka

Unlike his contemporaries, he fully admits he isn’t a good rapper. The lack of pretentiousness is refreshing.

by discoandherpes on Feb 2, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

NO NO NO

NO WACKA FLOCKA FLAME. NONE NEVER NEVER

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by halitosis on Feb 1, 2012 10:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

His points are vague and ambiguous, like almost any other fighter talking about PED use.

“You just know,” he said. “You know by straight-out asking them. You can do it that way. Or you can go through their coaches or training partners. It’s a very small world.” – any examples, Roy? Never heard of this happening, because, you know, it makes no sense.

“I’ve probably been tested for steroids probably more than any other fighter that’s ever fought,” – really? Care to qualify that statement? Because last time I checked you weren’t tested any more than other MMA fighters.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 1, 2012 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

You seriously want him to give examples?

What industry do you think this is? He has nothing to gain and a lot to lose by ratting on people, especially if he’s already whooped them in a fight.

by Chromium on Feb 1, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m clearly asking because I think those statements he made are the usual “look at me I’m talking about people using PEDs” bs.

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by Machiel Van on Feb 1, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I would say that's just some "look at me I'm talking about people who talk about people using PEDS" bs.

but that would just be some “look at me I’m talking about people who talk about people using PEDS” bs.

by Balrog on Feb 1, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Typo - there's no apostrophe in "PEDs".

It’s not possessing anything.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 1, 2012 6:28 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

your nitpicking

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by Rob Young on Feb 1, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm an English major; it's one of the few things the degree is useful for.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 1, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Zing!

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by Machiel Van on Feb 1, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I could care less!

It’s not even comprable

"God loves violence... Why else would there be so much of it? It's in us. It's what we are. We wage war, we burn sacrifices, and pillage and plunder and tear at the flesh of our brothers. And why? Because God gave us violence to wage in his honor... There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?"
- Warden of Ashecliffe Hospital

by ElliotMatheny on Feb 1, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

your a looser

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by Earl Montclair on Feb 1, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh. I hate that one.

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by Richard Wade on Feb 1, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I could of come up with a worse one.

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by pdl on Feb 1, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Your degree

is useful for one less thing than you seem to think.

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by Jaspawokki on Feb 1, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I've been waiting for someone to catch that.

I consider that a minor sin, since most people don’t even know what a preposition is (I rarely remember). I wonder when perscriptivists are finally going to give up on that rule. That and “never split infinitives” are my least favorite grammar rules.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 1, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

It's been scrapped from a lot of style guides already.

You’re allowed to end with prepositions now. My irritant is two spaces after a period. God fucking help you if you put two spaces after a period intentionally.

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by pdl on Feb 1, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Two spaces after each sentence,

UNTIL THE DAY I DIE!

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by jhf884 on Feb 2, 2012 7:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Ending sentences w/ a preposition?

“A practice up with which, I will not put” — Winston Churchill.

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by jhf884 on Feb 2, 2012 7:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I used to avoid ending with prepositions until I tried to say “Which show do you want to put on?”

You go ahead and say, “On which show do you want to put?” with a straight face. Do this, we must not.

by Ballsagna on Feb 2, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

So, Roy's post-IFL opponents are:

Arlovski
Monson
Schaub
Struve
JDS
Mir
Cro Cop

Wonder which of these guys he is referring to…

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by Rob Young on Feb 1, 2012 6:31 PM EST reply actions  

Mir

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by Earl Montclair on Feb 1, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Monson is a proud steroid user

If you couldn’t tell.

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by TheFilt on Feb 1, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

i have no basis for my guess. I just said it. I have Mir tourrettes

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by Earl Montclair on Feb 1, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I was actually thinking about that before

Alistair had people all over him for rapid muscle gain, but Mir put on a good 20 pounds of muscle in less time.

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by halitosis on Feb 1, 2012 10:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Mir has fought in the UFC 20 times. Don’t make bullshit accusations.

by Rody Diaz on Feb 1, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

relax

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by Earl Montclair on Feb 1, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

NO YOU RELAX

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by Tats16 on Feb 1, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

fair enough

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by Earl Montclair on Feb 1, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

B/c no one could use roids and test clean in the UFC

20 TIMES!

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by jhf884 on Feb 2, 2012 7:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Monson is an AAS advocate

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by TheFilt on Feb 1, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He enjoys proving right triangles congruent?

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by halitosis on Feb 1, 2012 10:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

monson

You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.

by Tats16 on Feb 1, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The commissions can just keep continually testing Nelson and Russow and have a 100% effectiveness rate.

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by mburtoni on Feb 1, 2012 6:34 PM EST reply actions  

On the other hand, remember Josh “The Roided Doughboy” Barnett…

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by Machiel Van on Feb 1, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

“Hey, you’re pretty fat. Come take a drug test.”
“I’m not fighting. I’m in this guy’s corner.”
“Oh. Excuse me, I have to talk to Cole Konrad.”

by crazybones on Feb 1, 2012 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, but no names

which makes the quote worthless. Why mention it at all?
Still, a funny article.

by Fatty Fish Belly on Feb 1, 2012 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

I originally just saw Roy Nelson and PED's

and I was thinking, “no fucking way”.

Fighting is like champagne. It goes to the heads of cowards as quickly as of heroes. Any fool can be brave on a battlefield when it's be brave or else be killed.

by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Feb 1, 2012 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

I wish I could double rec you,

once for the post, and once for the sig. Best. Show. EVAR!

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by jhf884 on Feb 2, 2012 7:31 AM EST up reply actions  

“I’ve probably been tested for steroids probably more than any other fighter that’s ever fought,” he said. “…It’s like a football program. There’s always going to be some guys where it’s like, yeah, you’re the one we’ve got to test, because then the program looks clean.”

I got pissed 14 times in my first 8 months in the Army back in the late 80s, for the same reason. They knew there was a 0% chance I had any illicit substance in my perfect body.

No, you're not drunk. I am this good-looking.

by IKiIIed007 on Feb 2, 2012 5:16 AM EST reply actions  

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