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Brandon Vera Calls Out Recently-Returned Thiago Silva

It seems that Brandon Vera wants another shot at Thiago Silva. Silva beat Vera down at UFC 125 and initially won a lopsided decision, but the fight was switched to a no-contest after Silva knowingly submitted a fake urine sample. Silva's suspension recently ended, and it didn't take The Truth long to get wind of it:

Good Morning FB!!! I just heard my dear friend Thiago Silva is back...... I want that ass. No H_m_.
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He did the editing there, not me. Vera was initially cut by the UFC after the loss, but was given a reprieve after Silva was suspended. Vera returned to the octagon at UFC137 and faced Eliot Marshall. He controlled the first two rounds, but Marshall dominated the third and had Vera in a nasty armbar that actually broke Vera's arm. Vera persevered to the final bell though, and while a lot of people thought Marshall should have been given a 10-8 round for the third and the fight should have been a draw, Vera was declared the victor via unanimous decision.

Is a Vera/Silva rematch a good idea for Thiago's return? When would Vera even be ready to fight? My guess is that Silva will be given someone higher up the depth chart than Vera, but who knows at this point.

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i for one appreciate the ballsy callout, instead of everyone angling for fights they think they are going to win a la brandon schaub.

by Clifford J on Jan 9, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Because Vera has no momentum

He got cut and uncut after the Silva fight

Wasn’t too convincing in his last fight

He needs a fight he can win as opposed

by Cunny on Jan 9, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

i would like to see him beaten up badly

it would do him good maybe? I think he seriously thinks he is still a hot prospect

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by szanpan on Jan 10, 2012 7:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see this fight going down any differently from the first – if it is to happen, of course.

Unless ring-rust plays a major factor with Thiago, I see Vera getting man-handled again before being issued his walking papers from the UFC.

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by @KatanaClothing on Jan 9, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Brandon Vera couldn't beat diminshed Randy "Liberty Mutual" Couture

He will get turned into a drum again because Silva will cycle smarter this time.

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by menckenstein on Jan 9, 2012 12:18 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

In many people’s eyes, Vera should have been given that decision.

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by Tim Burke on Jan 9, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

In any seeing persons eyes

Brandon Vera won that fight. Even Randy basically said he should have won. He said something like “I’m not sure what the judges are looking at”

by Hashmo on Jan 9, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant beat literally, not spar harder than.

That fight was atrocious.

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by menckenstein on Jan 9, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Randy crumpled from Vera's body kick

That’s a lot more beating than your average decision in the UFC.

This is the type of fight where the 10-9 system, and not the judging, was the problem. Randy squeaking out the tiniest amount of positional dominance in rounds 1 and 3 should not be worth more than Vera’s substantial damage in round 2.

by paythefighters on Jan 9, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

If people gave more 10-10 rounds

Then this wouldn’t be a problem. If two people have the exact same amount of offense except one person gets in an extra punch or two, it should still be 10-10. We’d see fewer bad decision in my opinion, even if we’d see more draws in 3 round fights.

by Chromium on Jan 9, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

aye

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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 9, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

10-9 Couture
10-9 Vera
10-9 Couture

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by MattParker117 on Jan 9, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

In many people's eyes, Vera lost his decision to Elliot Marshall....

I’m in agreement to a lot of people here, Silva would eat Vera alive…… again…..

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by jack knight starman on Jan 9, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

you obviously didn’t see that fight. There is no way Handy won.

by phantom5691 on Jan 9, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Silva would win just the same as he did before despite the lack of roids. Seems like Vera is overstating his own abilities yet again

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by StevenGiles on Jan 9, 2012 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

Silva will simply swith from animal urine to the whizzinator...

…and win again.

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by killphil on Jan 9, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

*switch

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by killphil on Jan 9, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

you’d think he’d watch a few episodes of The Wire and buy urine from the day care center.

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by Victor Rodriguez on Jan 9, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

But yeah, Vera at LHW was pretty bad. I think Silva would use trips again, get Vera down and beat on him to a decision.

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by killphil on Jan 9, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

koscheck?

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by gspmademegay on Jan 9, 2012 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

Nah, it’s a waste of everyone’s time, especially Thiago’s as it does nothing for his career.

by Shnak on Jan 9, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

as I said

on twitter, I’d rather see Brandon Vera vs. Tito Ortiz. I have zero interest on Tito vs. Chuck, Forrest, or any of these silly rematches.

by Anton Tabuena on Jan 9, 2012 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

That one would kind of make sense

Because it’d be fairly even overall and the loser can gtfo and stop wasting our time.

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by menckenstein on Jan 9, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

either way we all win!!!! no more right wing quacks in my mma!!!! im looking at you matt hughes

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by Mac Marley on Jan 9, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

How about

We focus on the fighters, rather than their political views.

by Un Sandpiper on Jan 10, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice

I like that matchup all around.

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by SteveevaD on Jan 9, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think Tito wants to go out with a fight like that though. He wants to go out with something people actually want to watch.

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by Tim Burke on Jan 9, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. Waay more people want to see those bouts than Ortiz/Vera. Brandon isn’t a draw at all. Chuck and Forrest are.

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by Tim Burke on Jan 9, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

no, I know they are draws.

I’m just saying, are there fans actually saying that “hey I want to see that rematch!”

Cause as a fan, I really have zero interest in seeing Tito fight a retired guy, or get his ass beat again by Forrest. Are you even interested in those bouts?

by Anton Tabuena on Jan 10, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Rematch against Lil Nog? That was really watchable!

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by menckenstein on Jan 9, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Good call. I like Vera vs Ortiz, even though it pretty much garantees that Vera gets a win (probably via TKO) and sticks around in the UFC a while longer.

by Shnak on Jan 9, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

doubt it.

I think you forget that Tito has a very big skull, and Vera gets too tentative.

by Anton Tabuena on Jan 9, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

The kicks Vera landed on Couture would down Tito at this point… his body can’t handle body shots anymore.

by Shnak on Jan 9, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I never even thought of that fight until now for Tito’s last fight and boy does it make alot of sense,

by Shocbomb on Jan 9, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose Vera want's another nose break

he got absolutely outclassed and humiliated in that fight and it had nothing to do with the juice.

by Matt Nelson on Jan 9, 2012 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

IM sure

it had something to do with it…I mean Vera has realy good TDD, & was whooping that ass in the stand up, so if they fought again i think he’d b able to do alot better. That said Id still pick Silva to win a unam dec, 29-28

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by JonBon Joey on Jan 9, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Would much rather see

T silva v Gustaffson & Vera v Matyushenko or Bonnar

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by JonBon Joey on Jan 9, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure if Vera can keep it standing long enough to win...

but I’ll agree on one thing though, that humiliating beating on the ground made people forget how Vera was winning all the striking exchanges on that bout.

by Anton Tabuena on Jan 9, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Well technically

he wasn’t being “outstruck”, he was winning the first two rounds (although it was pretty boring) until Marshall landed one on the chin late in the third.

by Anton Tabuena on Jan 10, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

It had nothing to do with the outcome of the fight, PED’s in MMA are used mostly for training recovery time so the body feels better the next day and you can push that much harder. If there is a part 2 Vera vs Silva it goes the same exact way as part 1 exspet maybe this time Silva finishes Vera.

by Shocbomb on Jan 9, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Silva admitted he was taking injection in his spine due to an injury – which woudl be corticosteroid , not anabolic steroids.

by Redconsensus on Jan 9, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Never believe a man who swaps urine samples.

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by dancingChicken on Jan 9, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s better to swap it than drink it…

by Shnak on Jan 9, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Yeah things didn’t end too well for TS last time somebody slammed a pint of that stuff

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by dajulzta on Jan 9, 2012 6:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

i hate comments like this

if drugs don’t do anything people woudn’t take them. period. doesn’t matter whether it’s in the fight or in trainting or whatever.

also: is no one on this board a little impressed that vera wants that rematch when he got tooled so hard? i do not expect him to win but i respect him for the call out.

by Clifford J on Jan 9, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

nah, he wants it bent back into shape.

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by Victor Rodriguez on Jan 9, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Vera used “No H_m_.” That calls for a savage beating.

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by Ubernoober on Jan 9, 2012 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

Should’ve

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by Krimson on Jan 9, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

lol

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by HitokiriX on Jan 9, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

My name is Branon Vera and I hate my face… I also like giving my surgeon money.

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by RECE ROCK on Jan 9, 2012 12:31 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

i can't take this......

Brandon Vera sit down and enjoy your time in the PRELIMS! Your not a good fighter anymore. Drug free and injured Thiago Silva will play bongo on your face again.

by howuson on Jan 9, 2012 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

You know what?

I hope he does get this fight and it goes exactly the same just for the fact that he used “no homo”.

by TMadeBurner on Jan 9, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

low blow max low blow

lol he shouldve let silva give em a can…then called out thiago

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by 3cheerios on Jan 9, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, did Thiago Silva just mess him up or what? Eliot Marshall is a lower-tier Light Heavyweight, and Vera almost lost to him. Vera should be fighting the Perosh’s, Diabate’s, TeHuna’s, and Pokrajac’s of the UFC, not Thiago Silva.

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by chrisbboy82 on Jan 9, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

OK guys...

because Uncle Creepy did it too this week. The whole “no homo” thing. Not sure how it’s gauged in the offensive meter, but with all problems fighters have had with social media of late, probably want to let that “joke” go

by ChicagoMMAFan on Jan 9, 2012 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing. Why not phrase the first sentence in a way that you don’t have to put a disclaimer of "no homo " at the end of the tweet. It’s just stupid.

It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.

by memitim on Jan 9, 2012 1:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

A reply fail -_-

“No Homo” at the end of a tweet.

by OMGitsME on Jan 9, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

If you're ok with being sexually insecure

then sure.

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by Genki Sudo's Choreographer on Jan 9, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well now I can’t help it! !! Thanks alot.

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by the-gentle-way on Jan 9, 2012 3:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think it’s basically the same joke as “that’s what she said.”

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by Bolshevik on Jan 9, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with it, it’s just juvenile.

It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.

by memitim on Jan 9, 2012 2:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That’s what she said!

by Jabroni on Jan 9, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah,

As a promotion looking to improve its mainstream brand, getting rid of hate speech from its athletes is a good policy in general. Oh yeah just being a good human being might make it worth it too.

I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyrone Woodly fight.

by DankNabbot on Jan 17, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Silva deserves someone higher up.

Vera has this need to call people out after losing to them. He did the same thing with Jon Jones. Silva dominated him and deserves a more exciting fight. A fight with Rogerio Nogueira or Alexander Gustafsson could be fun.

by mahalie on Jan 9, 2012 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

not only the Jon Jones fight it’s his MO after every loss to call out the fighter who just beat him or make up a excuse as to why he got beaten. He has done this for every loss I ran rememeber exsept the Jardine loss. After he lost to Tim Sylvia and Werdum he asked for rematches and made up excuses as to why he lost or why the real Vera did not show up in the fight.

by Shocbomb on Jan 9, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Vera is finished

Thiago Silva by KO in any rematch.

There’s no way they make this fight anyway.

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by SSreporters on Jan 9, 2012 1:22 PM EST reply actions  

Vera is a sick man..

to love public humiliation that much.

by chillnnsht on Jan 9, 2012 1:24 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

This is stupid

That fight was nowhere near close and I doubt Silva’s enhancement made the difference

Nobody thought Vera would win that fight

Silva will commit brutal murder

Vera should just count his blessings that Silva got caught and he got his job back

Silva’s going to bomb Vera out of the UFC again

by Cunny on Jan 9, 2012 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

No way, Vera needs to fight Shogun

They gave Rampage the Bader fight. Shogun needs a tune-up fight too, and Vera is just perfect.

by Lauren J Darkbloom on Jan 9, 2012 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

C'mon guys, Vera wasn't serious.

Somebody interviewed him while he was talking nonsense in his sleep. Here’s a photo from the interview.

by Machiel Van on Jan 9, 2012 1:30 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

why is he making a bisping face?

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by elmojo on Jan 9, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Oddly enough, the best fight I can think of for Vera is Stephan Bonnar. Which is a terrible, terrible sign for his career trajectory.

by crazybones on Jan 9, 2012 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

Bonnar from a year ago, maybe… He’s on a 3 fight win streak against 3 guys I’m pretty sure would beat Vera and one that’s probably a toss up.

Things are going worse for Vera than that.

by Diz D on Jan 9, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Vera needs to drop down to WW.

by Diz D on Jan 9, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re sure Kingsbury and Pokrajac would beat Vera? Let’s not get carried away here. Bonnar is a 3-fight streak with the lowest level of competition possible in the UFC.

by crazybones on Jan 9, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

No, not sure… pretty sure.

However, I forgot he beat Marshall… I thought that went to a draw. Since he is coming off a win, a matchup against Bonnar is possible.

…but speaking of Pokrajac, I think a fight against him makes more sense right now.

by Diz D on Jan 9, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

bongos, son.

Bongos.

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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 9, 2012 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

man,

remember when Barnett did that back in his old UFC days when he was covered in blood? Ooooh, remember all the shock at that image back then.

I thought Lay N Pray was a stupid insult until I watched Tyrone Woodly fight.

by DankNabbot on Jan 17, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, at least he's not calling out easy fights, or fights he thinks are easy

Looking at you Brendan f’cking Schaub

I would expect Vera to be calling out someone like Ortiz, Matyushenko, Diabate, or Perosh.

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by Chris Groves on Jan 9, 2012 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

It would have been great

if Hughes did that to Kos
and Wandy did that to Leben

by TheCode on Jan 10, 2012 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Thiago Silva Bongo Showcase Part 2

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by IRodC on Jan 9, 2012 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

I missed Thiago Silva

I want to see him play the bongos on Vera again…

by BrandtShaft! on Jan 9, 2012 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

Bad idea..

Don’t see him beating T Silva, juice or not.

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by Horselover Fat on Jan 9, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Brandon Vera is that guy

like melvin guillard, I don’t know where they take their arrogance from, definitly not from their achievements

by feiwongfu on Jan 9, 2012 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

I dunno man

Melly-G is an unfadable force of sheer badassery. I doubt many people could say the same about Vera without pissing their pants from laughing

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by dajulzta on Jan 9, 2012 4:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I’m not saying he hasn’t achieved anything or that he has no skills (I like to watch him fight), but to justify his ego, he would have to be champion since 1999 and even then I would like to kick him in the nuts

by feiwongfu on Jan 9, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Vera vs Polish experiment or luiz cane

Silva would shove his hand down vera’s throat and break his gooohhhdaamn sppiiiiiyyyne

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by elmojo on Jan 9, 2012 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

Vera already beat Soszinsky who I think retired after his fight

with Pokrajac. Cane kind of makes sense though.

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