Bad Boy Presents Bloody Elbow Radio - Episode 120: Strikeforce 'Rockhold vs. Jardine' Results Review
by Matt Bishop on Jan 8, 2012 12:29 AM EST
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Bloody Elbow Radio, presented by Bad Boy, will be LIVE at 12:30 a.m. ET/9:30 p.m. PT for another edition of the show. Join hosts Matt Bishop, Forrest Lynn and MMA Mania's Brian Hemminger as they review tonight's "Strikeforce: Rockhold vs. Jardine," which is headlined by a Strikeforce middleweight championship bout between Luke Rockhold and Keith Jardine. Also on the card, former light-heayweight champion Muhammed Lawal returns to face rising prospect Lorenz Larkin.
We'll review all the bouts that make air while taking you calls, emails, tweets and comments here in the show thread.
Bloody Elbow Radio is sponsored by Bad Boy. Bad Boy, the 2010 and 2011 World MMA Awards winner for "Best Technical Clothing Brand" can be found at the brand new BadBoy.com. Follow them on Twitter and Facebook and tell them Bloody Elbow sent you.
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Who dat?
We are Ruining Your Special Night, motherfuckers!
by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:15 AM EST reply actions
Awwww
Are you trying to make Bishop cry?
by Blair Russell on Jan 8, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
So how about them lions?
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Oh yeah…wasn’t there supposed to be a big Lions victory tonight…? What happened there? Any info?
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by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sad for Megatron.
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by Brian Hemminger on Jan 8, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
There was. The Lions defense was much better than Kim Winslow was tonight.
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I feel like we should spice the show up tonight
Tonight’s secret word is.. “banana”
Y’all know what to do!
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Where is Cyndi Lauper to sing the theme?
We are Ruining Your Special Night, motherfuckers!
by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t cry for me, Matt Bishop!
We are Ruining Your Special Night, motherfuckers!
by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:32 AM EST reply actions
Based on tonight event, is it a good idea for strikeforce to contiue or should they have just folded everyone into UFC?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:33 AM EST reply actions
Keeps a potential competitor out of CBS/Showtime. I used to think that this was the reasoning behind this, but now, who knows? It was certainly a smart move IF they can drive interest in the product on Showtime, and?
whats on CBS that anyone would watch? Like boxing or what?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Big Bang Theory.
Things like that are what CBS gets ratings from. Combat-sports just don’t sell on CBS. FOX has a much better chance.
only now
do I understand that you meant the TV program and not the actual theory.
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Right now
It’s hard to say what Zuffa gains, but it does diversify their product reach and does give them a lot of control over the landscape of the sport.
I don't get why SHO re-signed
Best case is they’ve got lop-sided fights, worst case they’ve got random BS fights that nobody cares about.
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me neither
they needed to fold this up since the purchase
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
So Luke Rockhold calling out UFC fighters was cute.
He still has to fight Kennedy and in all honesty should probably run it back with Jacare. It’s not like he’s miles ahead of the rest of the SF middleweights.
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At least he's speaking his mind
Whether you think he deserves to be moved on up, he’s not sitting there pouting like everyone else.
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
See how pumped Mo and Lawler were?
Those dudes weren’t happy they won, they’re bummed that they’re more or less stuck in Strikeforce.
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Don’t change the subject.
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by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:35 AM EST reply actions
If Keith Jardine sang with Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis
he’d be Dean Martin.
[Edit*Please, don’t get out the Ban Hammer! I couldn’t find the Delete key before hitting Enter!]
Here comes Forrest Lynn with: “Dude, this show was awesome. MY DAWG KING MO WON. MY DUDE KING MO WON. HEY, MY BOY KING MO WON. MY DAWG!”
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by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:36 AM EST reply actions
whats up with Forrest? Like… his enthusiasm is overwhelming
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t worry. It is coming.
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by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
/shameless plug
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
Haha, thanks a lot bro. Don’t hate on Rainer tho, he keeps the site alive. Look for some stuff from me this week tho, plannin on picking bak up with the “Looking Back At a Legend” series
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no idea who Rainer is. But ill keep an eye out for that cus I enjoyed the first one/two of those you did
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Rainer is the manager/editor
He’s the most regular contributor, by a long shot.
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by Brian Hemminger on Jan 8, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Wait…who cares about Cavalcante? Is he top 25?
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by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:43 AM EST reply actions
He fought in Japan.
That’s pretty much the logic.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Oh. So…Forrest throws Japanese fighters under the bus, but clings to the sack of a fighter who is only good for beating Japanese fighters? Got it.
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by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE CONTENDER!
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I think it’s most laughable that the main event of the 3/3 show is apparently Tate vs. Rousey, given that the challenger hasn’t even fought on Showtime yet, and Tate hasn’t fought since July. With that card I’ll be surprised if they draw more than a few thousand at most to the Nationwide Arena.
I thought Tate/Rousey was on the event with Cormier/Barnett
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Rouseys last fight was on showtime no?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
yeah challengers is....
beyond awful. but stil on showtime
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Well
Honestly now, it was Showtime Challengers, which almost doesn’t even count.
As for the finals of the Heavyweight Grand Prix, it was implied by Cormier during his interview on the show that he wasn’t ready for 3/3.
by Blair Russell on Jan 8, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Huh?
She’s been on Challengers twice so far. She’s not drawing more than a few extra people to the show, but it’s not like she’s a nobody.
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I can barely understand what's being said
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The volume on my laptop is very limited
I’m sure that’s the problem
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Well, I don't exactly have it cranked up to 11 to hear anything
I certainly wouldn’t say it’s louder than average, but it’s not THAT far below. Maybe invest in a pair of $3 earbuds ;)
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I probably should
But yes, the lowness of the volume on this comp is always an issue. and no way to adjust it
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No?
What kind of laptop is it?
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Toshiba Satellite
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Isn't there some Fn+F# key that you can crank it up on?
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apparently not
Just tried all of them
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I think that generally only controls the OS volume anyway
But if that won’t get it up to a “normal” volume, then you’ve probably got either blown out speakers, or a bad connection. If it sounds like trash with headphones then you’ve got a bad soundcard (or at least a bad amp on the card), and a PCMCIA or ExpressCard soundcard for the headphones.
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Nah, noticed it from when I bought the thing
And it was a complaint I found from some other reviews. Other than that, it was a great deal tho, so I can’t really complain
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Well on my laptop and mp3 player
the callers (? or do they use skype) like Forrest and Bryan are very difficult to hear. Sounds very compressed to me, but maybe that’s because of their connection.
"No man dies for what he knows to be true. Men die for what they want to be true, for what some terror in their hearts tells them is not true."
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Ah, I see.
Yeah, it was pretty much only Forrest.
"No man dies for what he knows to be true. Men die for what they want to be true, for what some terror in their hearts tells them is not true."
Rockhold gets beat by Bisping btw
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:47 AM EST reply actions
Rockold would beat STANN? OKAMI?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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You are correct.
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by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Brian Stann is no good? Get this guy off the air.
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Based on what, Forrest? Beating Jacare?
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He probably beats Palhares
Has a competitive fight with Belcher and probably wins a decision. Tough to say with Munoz, and if his athleticism can keep him afloat he can decision Sonnen.
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dunno about Sonnen but agree with the rest
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
Sonnen would be rough
That man could take down practically anything, it seems, so it would be up to Rockhold to keep it standing for enough of a round to win it. I wouldn’t favor him, but I wouldn’t rule it out.
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imo
the only chance he has is sub off his back which isnt happening
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
Jacare is good
I scored that fight for him but I understand others giving it to Rockhold. Styles make fights and Jacare would prob beat Bisping too.
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:50 AM EST reply actions
Bishop talking some fucking sense.
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Rockhold is NOT that good. At all. Good lord.
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by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:51 AM EST reply actions
Matt
keep Forrest on mute. For good
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:51 AM EST reply actions
Dude, you are just like…mad stupid, bro!
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by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
for reals.
Forest is an idiot
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
Bishop is like “MY MIND IS FULL OF FUCK”
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And that Fuck
is being ****** in all the wrong places.
There are guys like Chris Leben running around the UFC 185 division so I don't necessarily disagree w/ Forrest
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Leben at least has some legit wins on his record. Rockold beat up Jardine.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
What do you do with Tyrone Woodley in Strikeforce? His performance tonight was incredibly subpar, and for a promotion based off exciting matches, does it hurt them to have him as a likely reigning champion?
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Okami takes him down consisently
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:54 AM EST reply actions
consistently*
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, because lat dropping Chael Sonnen is a small task. Everyone does it! I just did it last Tuesday!
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Also, who has Luke Rockhold beaten that signifies he’d have any success against these guys Forrest is mentioning? Aside from fucking nobody?
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
I think he’s going off what he’s seen in the gym from Rockhold.
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Maia pulled off an incredible takedown on Sonnen
But overall his takedown offense is incredibly inconsistent. He has only a 33% takedown accuracy.
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BEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLAAAAATTOOOOOOORRRRR!!!!!!!
BRRRRIAAAANNNNN HEEMMMMMINGGGERRRRR!!!!!
Does Forest let anyone talk? Good lord.
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by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:56 AM EST reply actions
I think i get it now
Forrest has a boy crush on ATT and is therefore blinded by bias
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:56 AM EST reply actions
*AKA
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by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
yes
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
but CAIN!!!!
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
Well, shit. If Luke Rockhold doing well against King Mo in sparring makes him Top 5, then Feijao is the number 1 light heavyweight in the world.
Fuck Jon Jones. Feijao is the best. According to Forrest logic.
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Holy shit!
The guys who train with Luke Rockhold say he’s THAT good? He’ll dethrone Silva for sure..
Rousimar Palhares would eat Luke Rockhold.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 12:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I’d have Rockhold 7ish without thinking too much about it
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 12:58 AM EST reply actions
Brian Hemminger traded me Adrian Peterson in fantasy football.
People should know this before listening to him.
I gave up on that league when I got autodrafted
I won my pay league, champion. People should know that
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by Brian Hemminger on Jan 8, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
This is true.
I’m just playing with you Hemmi. Your opinion on Hector Lombard is pretty wild, but I can’t hate on it too much.
by Brent Ducharme on Jan 8, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
Wat.
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Forrest is acting like everyone is dissing Rockhold
we’re not. You’re just completely overrating his skills and wins IMO
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:01 AM EST reply actions
Overrating his wins, yeah, definitely. Overrating skills? Who knows.
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true
he has potiential. And he could be a force but I’ve seen nothing special in his game that makesme think he would have a major impact in the UFC
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
Also, I’ll bet that Tim Kennedy beats Luke Rockhold.
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As opposed to Keith Jardine?!
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but
JT MONEY
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
So, that puts him in par with CB Dollaway.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
I've never commented on BE while under the influence of alcoholic beverages.
It’s “free reign” on Machiel Van right now. And yes, that is my real name (mostly).
YOU SUCK
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
J/K
love you lots
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
if you get it
I love you. LOTS
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
<3
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
Bigger win than Rockhold has though.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
Rich Franklin is king of 195
AKA Franklinweight
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That was a weird one.
But a
win against Franklin at a contracted weight is quality IMO.
WHO THE FUCK HAS Rockhold beat apart from Jacare??
Also Rumble is not a WW
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:03 AM EST reply actions
Oh, we’re talking Belfort now? The guy who slaughtered Rich Franklin? Former Middleweight champ?
Come the hell on, man.
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Wasn’t at middleweight, though.
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No cause, both those fights were real close.
Jacare, Kennedy, Rockhold all are in a real tight race
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Holy cow. The piss poor logic. My ears!
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Randy Couture grappled Jacare to a draw with pure wrestling. Jacare isn’t an MMA grappling Jesus.
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There's good speculation that Jacare wasn't going at 100% in that contest
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I think Jacare came in with a really weird game plan
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
But Couture was grappling not to lose that.
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I know. It was pure defense. Thing is, out-scrambling Jacare doesn’t really mean much. Not in the context of middleweight MMA.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
I pretty much agree with Forest about Rockhold
I think Jacare might not have come into that fight completely ready but Rockhold is the got a strong future.
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Cant fault Herb, its hard to train for Jardines unorthodox style of getting KTFO.
by Broseidon on Jan 8, 2012 1:09 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Nah, he'll keep fighting when someone pays him
I wrote him off a long time ago, and see no reason to change my opinion now.
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205
please
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
How can you blame Lawlor for that?
It was an illegal blow, it should have been broken up and there’s no reason for him not to take whatever time is given him
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Agreed wholeheartedly. I’m saying it got much worse after he saw the ref coming in.
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Oh yeah, without a doubt, he hammed it up a bit
But I don’t blame him at all for it, that’s just good fight IQ
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Did that flying knee really hit? I feel like Adlan was just confused after that and decided not to fight anymore
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It definitely hit and whipped his head straight back
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The knee that Adlan was hit with was SOLID
Not a ton of steam behind it, but it was on. Now, Robbie’s knee on the other hand, didn’t look like it hit at all.
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Behind temple.
Hard to see, brutal for equilibrium.
you mean
the illegal knee that Adlan threw or the one that Lawler threw?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
Showtime NEEDS a new commentary team
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I think it would be a lot better if it was just Mauro and Pat
Mauro needs some work nowadays, but Frank brings everything down as bad as Gus.
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Mauro was not as bad tonite as he has been recently
But they need to keep him off camera til he grows his hair back
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actually thought the commentating wasnt the worst I’ve heard from them. Obviously not saying much but… like… you know?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
Frank was saying the fight was still on while Winslow was separating the fighters
That’s effing terrible
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compared to usual strikeforce though? Like cringewortthy moments were low..ish tonight?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
I dunno
I do my best to ignore them
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same
I tuned in when Frank spoke just to see if I had to drink
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
Don't hold your breath
He shaved it a while ago, and is keeping it up.
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Then keep him off camera
It’s a painful viewing experience any time he’s on screen
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Nah dude, over acting is bullshit especially if he could have convinced them to end that fight off an illegal knee that didn’t hurt him.
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I'd agree with you if he had gone for the DQ win
Just taking some time? Nah, that’s just smart
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Hey Now
I say that Lawler wasn’t the best actor in the fight! As some others said in the live thread, the “knee” that knocked out Amagov looked like it didn’t even hit. As I said there, Adlan almost looked like he pulled an Alessio Sakara at UFC 65.
I’ve been to regional shows with solid reffing. Did Forrest toke up before this?
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Ouch
I haven’t always agreed with Forrest tonight (to say the least) but after seeing some HORRIBLE officiating on the low-rung shows they run sometimes on the Southeast regional network Sun Sports, I do have to agree with him there.
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Bad reffing isn’t really exclusive to regional shows. It just depends on the night.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just glad that they finally diagnosed Lawler's asthma
Because that’s clearly what’s been holding him back these past few years.
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by -Neil- on Jan 8, 2012 1:15 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
You’re not good in Strikeforce unless you spar with King Mo.
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Oh dear god. Chael vs Rockhold would last one round.
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I'm glad I read this, so I can just write off everything else you say as troll bait
Sonnen has finished one fight in over four years.
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by -Neil- on Jan 8, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and if he fought Rockhold, it would be two. Write me off all you like. You’ll just be wrong.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly what indication do you have that he wouldn't do better than Chael's opponents?
If you want to hate on Rockhold that’s cool, but don’t pretend that you’re being fair when you say things like that.
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Nobody’s hating on Rockhold, for fuck’s sake. He’s just not that great, and Forrest is snooker loopy.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
"Not that great" doesn't equate to being finished by Chael Sonnen
Troll all you want, but don’t expect to be taken seriously by saying things like that.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not mad, I'm realistic
Chael Sonnen went to a decision with BRYAN BAKER. The only reason Stann got sub’d is because, for as much as people want to believe to the contrary, he sucks. Call Rockhold unproven if you want, and say that he gets beaten by Sonnen if you want (because he probably would be), but that man ain’t getting stopped by Chael Sonnen.
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I'd take Stann over Rockhold
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that’d be a good fight. I’d prob favour Stann
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:39 AM EST up reply actions
Stann gets taken down, finished in the first round
That dude has no wrestling, and Rockhold has enough athleticism and wrestling to make it happen. Stann is an exciting fighter, but really isn’t very good, as has been proven.
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By who?
Chael Sonnen? Phil Davis? He gets beaten by fantastic wrestlers. I don’t see how its fair to say he has no wrestling.
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by halitosis on Jan 8, 2012 11:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
How about Krzysztof or Massenzio?
It’s not about getting beaten, or being taken down by fantastic wrestlers (which they are), it’s about HOW he goes down.
I feel like Robbie Lawler is a super crappy fighter that somehow manages to land a lucky shot. And anyone that actually sticks to their game plan would win
Melvin Manhoef was f’ing him up when a moments stupidity got them F’d.
Adlan was taking him down at will till he decided to eat some knee
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He's a one-dimensional fighter with heavy hands
You don’t get “lucky” with that level of success. He’s lost some rough fights, but compare his record to Manhoef’s and it’s pretty clear that he’s just a one-trick-pony that has a good one trick.
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you think the last two SF cards have been worse in terms of exciting fights, have been worse than previous events? I mean like ignore relevant fights or fighters cus that is gone but exciting fights?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:22 AM EST reply actions
granted
tonight had a few snoozers but IMO this has also been what SF has been. Who cares if the fight is relevant or not (clearly they’re not) just let them fight and enjoy them?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
If you look at some of last year’s greatest fights and most hyped fights:
All of the Strikeforce HWs in the Grand Prix are gone almost.
Nick Diaz vs. Paul Daley? Diaz gone.
Diaz vs. Cyborg? Diaz gone.
Fedor vs. Hendo? Both gone.
Cyborg’s beatdowns? Gone.
Who else is there to care about?
We are Ruining Your Special Night, motherfuckers!
Even freakshows like Bobby Lashley and Herschel are gone. And people were drawn to that.
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Dan Henderson tweeting that Tarec got his arm broken in the 1st round
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Not only have they lost Diaz, Overeem, and Hendo but they’ve added nothing.
Before Strikeforce kept some of the best from fighting in the UFC but also served as an option for fighters. Now, the some of the best still aren’t in the UFC and now serve as no option for the fighters.
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Okay UFC should not have said that they were going to become the new UFC. But we all know that wasn’t going to happen. Why not just accept Strikeforce for what it is now that we know its not going to become the ‘new UFC’?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
But what is it?
A ghetto for some great fighters – Melendez, Feijao, Mousasi, King Mo, Rockhold, Kennedy, Souza. It’s not a feeder program because feeder suggests the possibility of moving up. if fighters like those who’ve I’ve already mentioned above can’t move up to the UFC then it’s not going to be a feeder promotion.
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get the good fighters out of there.
I know its not going to happen now but there are some legit fighters in SF that need to be in UFC that are completely wasted in SF
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
It's always had no context in Strikeforce
You guys just choose to acknowlege it now!
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Hey Forrest, what did King Mo mean when he says they can't leave SF. Even tho his contract was up
are they just offering them way less money to go to the UFC or saying they wont take em into the UFC?
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They can't keep people from leaving
But basicly the UFC “offers” are a lot less than what Strikeforce will offer for the same fights. Extreme low-ball offers to keep the Strikeforce tallent where they are. They’d have to make up the rest on sponsor cash, which would be pretty rough.
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
Strikeforce = “contenders” league (in a PPV based industry, “contenders” can be defined as (?)) I think that therefore, Strikeforce has a (?) chance.
All i can say about SF fights is that they’re entertaining. Maybe that’s enough? It is for me. More high level MMA FTW!
yeah
if we all just stop pretending its relevant and just accept that it is what it is. Semi exciting fights
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
bellator>strikeforce
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:30 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Which is sad. But true.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
Is it though?
Bellator shouldnt be shot upon like it is
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
shit*
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe, maybe not
They poach Strikeforce/UFC retreads, make STUPID programming decisions, have terrible production, and the fights they offer their champions suck.
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I think the problem is that Strikeforce punched above their weight with the HW GP and began to take them seriously. They should be right down there with BAMMA and Tachai Palace but with better talent
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
Probably
What irks me about them is that Strikeforce has 5-10 really good fighters that are being held back because of the SHO contract. Like Forrest said, guys like Mo, Rockhold and Melendez are toiling in mediocrity, while there are some completely random scrubs being picked up for UFC fights.
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just said this above
There are some really good fighters that would make a legit impact in the UFC. If they can move the whole HW division I think they should be able to move th elite in each division and just call SF what it is
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
Contractually, they can't
Showtime didn’t want a league full of nobodys, and part of the contract was what we see today with the UFC more or less holding them back in Strikeforce. Melendez was pretty much slated to move up, but SHO killed it. You notice that one day Melendez is talking about UFC fights, and around the time the Showtime extension is announced he isn’t? That was why.
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but is it in their interest to have 2-3 guys that everyone knows are good but have no opposition or have lots of good prospects and lots of opposition?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
It is, and it isn't
A league with a few good fighters will have people tuning in to see those fighters. A league with none will have only the hardcores tuning in. Showtime wants the best that they can get, and if that’s only a handfull of good fighters that’s what they’ll take.
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Who does Strikeforce have that is a draw to any one but hardcores at this point?
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Mo, Mousasi, Feijao, Melendez, those kinds of guys off the top of my head. When I say hardcores, I don’t mean the people who will tune into Strikeforce, I mean the people who will watch any MMA and keep track of people that you and I have never heard of.
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Those guys are talented but I wouldn't call them draws
Fedor, Hendo, and even Diaz were draws. You’re talking about talented fighters and I agree they are, but they’re not going to bring in a lot of viewers.
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They won't bring a lot of viewers
But how about this.. if you had tonight’s card, without all of the name fighters on the name card, would you tune in? At that point you’ve got a card that has less name value than the MFC. And there aren’t many people watching that promotion.
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i would tune in
I dont tune in for ‘name fighters’ I tune in for the brand tbh
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:53 AM EST up reply actions
Well, you're an anomly
At this point, without anyone with a name, they’re no better than a random HDNET Fights event. I don’t usually watch Challengers because there isn’t usually anyone worth watching; the fights tonight, and Strikeforce going forward, are essentially Challengers, but with a few name fighters. Not huge draws, since they don’t have them anymore, but names none the less.
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I watched the last challenger because Rousey was on it but I never would have heard of it if it wasnt a SF card
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
If it wasn't for Rousey, I would've deleted it immediately.
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It hurts me
But I actually went out of my way to download it
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:57 AM EST up reply actions
That doesn't change the fact
That SF no longer has anyone that’s going to get people to subscribe to Showtime and that is the entire point of having SF on a premium channel.
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Agreed
I feel like at this point their BEST outlook is that they can develop up and comers, but they’ll probably just tread water where they’re at today. Of course, they’re going to piss off whatever name fighters they’ve got today (Melendez, etc), but that’s what will happen with that model.
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That's fine to refine it is a development league
But they have to find a way to bring in viewers or the deal is absolutely worthless to Showtime.
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who in SF now is a draw? They’ve lost Diaz, Overeem, Fedor? Like Bellator basically has no-one but they do… okay ish numbers when everyone knows they have maybe 1/2 fighters that would impact in the UFC
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
ugh.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
Well, Cecil Peoples is a ref……
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Bellator is not more relevant?
Jesus. Bellator has 1 or 2 top 10 guys in the world. At least Strikeforce can put fights together with 2 top 25 fighters. Bellator can’t. Not even in their title fights.
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1 or 2?
That’s pretty optimistic. I doubt even Hemmi has that many of ’em in his top tens.
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And Yet
If I download the post-show from Sherdog’s website later tonight I’m sure I’ll hear Jordan Breen STILL say that Ms. Winslow isn’t a bad referee! Remember, that douche still believes that she did a great job in the cage with Cyborg vs. Jan Finney.
the dean of breen?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
For what it's worth in Cyborg/Finney
Cyborg was beating the hell out of her, but Cyborg would let off JUST enough so that she wouldn’t stop it. She doesn’t like stopping fights unless there are some FAST punches, as opposed to hard ones.
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Women’s refereeing = Women’s MMA
Commendable, but SO much worse than male MMA.
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yes
so much yes
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
Bro, Mazzagatti's worse.
Winsow just hasn’t FAILED on more BIG stages than him.
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I agree. Winslow is terrible. I'd say equal rights but male judges fuck up to
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She's a ref, not a judge.
I agree though, she’s not as good as Yamasaki, Dean, McCarthy, etc.
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I wouldn’t call what Mo did to Gegard a “pounding.” More like leg humping.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:36 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
pains me to say
I agree with Forrest
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:38 AM EST reply actions
So……did Forrest never see the Feijao fight? Yeah, Mo’s good, but not THAT good.
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That was a weird fight. He did some weird things and didn’t fight to his potential there.
And Forrest was there, so he saw it.
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That’s the thing though. It wasn’t Mo’s potential. It was Feijao’s ability to nullify Mo’s game, because Mo is pretty limited as a fighter. Great wrestler, hard hitter, but his striking isn’t very diverse and stuffing his takedown attempts puts him in a bad position.
I can’t see Mo beating the best at 205. Anyone with solid defensive wrestling is going to have a big advantage.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
Haters gonna hate
Is it AKA, or just Forrest that you want to get down on? Two guys whupped their opponents tonight with little effort, and you’re saying they’ll never ammount to anyhting.
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I'm glad I read this, so I can just write off everything else you say as troll bait
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
Is that an acknowledgement that you're just trolling?
Or are you just parroting what I said about you? I’m genuinely interested, because I’d like to know the source of the hatorade that’s flowing forth.
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I'm pretty much fucking with you.
You’re easy to piss off. If you were actually reading what I was saying as opposed to being a baby about things, you’d see that I don’t hate AKA.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
Mo fought with a torn ACL and PCL
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by Brian Hemminger on Jan 8, 2012 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
Mo had no ACL at all in that fight
Hard to shoot in for a takedown with only one leg.
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Prolly a little late but after 2 rounds thru that Mein/Woodley fight the judges had it 1-1…2-0 Mein..and 2-0 Woodley…that’s just insane.
2-0 mein? Really?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
Yup that’s what Trowbridge had it thu 2.
by Jesus H. Christ on Jan 8, 2012 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
beyond crazy. I’d love to score it that way to annoy the ‘takedown wins the round’ idea but wtf
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:46 AM EST up reply actions
Forrest: Do you mean Zuffa is afraid of being a monopoly?
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I think that’s what he’s insinuating.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:44 AM EST up reply actions
sounds like it
They are supposedly being investigated by the FTC
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by Brian Hemminger on Jan 8, 2012 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
I'l' take King Mo in a rematch against Mousasi and/or Feijao
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me too
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
With the way Mousasi has looked, any good wrestler will take care of business
I don’t know if I’d drop cash on him against Feijao, but I’d probably pick him to win.
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That would be a lot more fun. Can’t see a fight between Mo and Gegard or Mo and Feijao going any differently than last time.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
you guys take a break?
I need a pee!
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:47 AM EST reply actions
I'll sum up what happened in 50 characters or less while you're gone.
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go
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
Matt thinks the guys were thrown to the wolves tonight, Forrest doesn't think so as much.
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Forrest disagrees
shocker
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:58 AM EST up reply actions
It's full speed ahead
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
Business as usual for Strikeforce
They never had depth. They just signed Fedor and Hendo and you guys thought they were legit,
"Life isn't Fucking fair! Deal with it." Dad.
And drunk Joben has arived!
First, their heavyweight division was just as strong as the UFC’s. Admittedly top heavy, but they had some of the top talent in the world.
Second, their divisions throughout the divisions were definitely but, they pretty much had a top talent in each division. Hendo was one at LHW, with Mo and Mousasi and Cavalcante to fill out the top of the division. Diaz ruled WW and Jacare at MW.
Now they’ve lost the majority of the top level talent they had and have zero draws left.
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You should have heard me on the podcast
Drunk Joben indeed. I actually was introduced as Joben. It was fun.
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i love the joben
But srlsly you made some good points
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
It was a drunk mess. I'll do better next time
I will actually have pre-thought questions instead of winging it.
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Damn, I'm truly disappointed that I missed it
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oh what a pity
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:54 AM EST reply actions
All I’m hearing is mumbling.
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guys
who is next for Rockhold? Kennedy? rematch Jacare?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:54 AM EST reply actions
Kennedy is all they've got
I don’t see much of a point with a Jacare rematch at this point, since Jacare hasn’t fought (let alone WON) since their last fight.
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if they had of rematched
instead of Jardine, would you have complained?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 1:59 AM EST up reply actions
I would've complained less
Because that fight was pretty definitive to me. It’s dumb matchmaking, but slightly dumb than the Jardine fight.
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I scored it for Jacare
But I was drunk and wanted Jacare to win
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
The rounds were close
But they weren’t close enough for me to give him the benefit of the doubt. I wanted Jacare to win too.
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What event waqs this on? I’m gonnawatch it again tomorrow
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
It was the WGP event from September last year
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Barnett vs Kharinotov. Probably the worst STGP events
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
SFGW
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
The "deep end?"
Imagine Diaz fighting Cyborg? Imagine Jacare fighting Rockhold? Imagine Mo fighting Feijao, Imagine Melendez fighting masvidal?
How dare they?
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Mein's dad kept yelling you're winning, you're doing damage, he's not doing anything
maybe the shitty judge was influenced
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I think Woodley does less than Fitch. A lot less.
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Hendricks can fix his wagon! :P
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Actually, if Fitch fought Woodley, I think Woodley might get submitted. I mean, that’s quite the talent gap.
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fitch sub from the bottom?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
I was thinking Fitch takes him down, Woodley panics, gives up his back, and then choke.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
yeah its a possiblilty. It would prob be a contest to see who could shoot the fastest?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
Sure he's scared
At this point, he probably knows that when he loses they’ll cut him. There isn’t much need for a fighter that is less compelling to watch than Fitch.
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Wrong profession for risk averse. If he does this the second he loses he's gonna get cut
He’s like a quieter Antonio McKee
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question
If you were T-wood would you care that the crowd is booin you or would you be annoyed and try to make it more exciting?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:08 AM EST reply actions
yo, are those 12 to 6 elbows that Mein was throwin legal when they land on the top of the head?
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They aren't legal anywhere
I can only assume the ref didn’t call it because he was on his back, and didn’t know any better. Any time your arm goes in that movement with the elbow in that motion it’s an illegal blow.
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yes they are legal
because they are 6 to 12, not 12 to 6 if you throw them from bottom.
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by Brian Hemminger on Jan 8, 2012 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
huh?
how does that work? Isn’t 12:6 in relation to the fighters and not bottom or top?
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It WOULD be 3-9
Except that it’s not the orientation of the body, it’s the elbow going straight from the head down towards the feet. It’s the point of the elbow that they’re worried about, since some fool saw a guy breaking blocks and got freaked out.
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yeah that’s what I’m sayin. He was throwing them from the head down towards the feet…
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And that's why it's an illegal blow
Not to mention that a bunch of them were getting through to the back of the head.
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We need to buy Bellator Brian a Kim Winslow swimsuit calender for 2012.
We are Ruining Your Special Night, motherfuckers!
by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 2:09 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
You’d be in for it, I know. I think that is a birthday gift.
We are Ruining Your Special Night, motherfuckers!
by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
sorry
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:11 AM EST up reply actions
“She’s dead, Jim.”
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 2:11 AM EST up reply actions
This is a real person...
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
unrelateed
Its MY 40th birthday. Any chance of a shout out?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
Happy 40th
Even if it doesn’t make the show. Good times to come.
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Is anyone else bummed out that Scott Coker has been turned into a sad and empty shell of his former self?
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me
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
please dont leave
Im still sober
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:13 AM EST reply actions
What life? I speak English.
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Oh. He’s rich. Why not just say “He’s rich”?
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 8, 2012 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
Tyron Teddy Bear Woodley..
should be his new nickname because he put me to sleep! He should not get a title shot with that dryhumpfest performance!
forrest
sssshhhhhhhhhh
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:15 AM EST reply actions
Yep. But at least we don’t dislike him as much as Micah.
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by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 2:17 AM EST up reply actions
Im right up there with Micah. In that he talks shit and makes no sense?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah…but I wouldn’t go to the straws he is grasping at.
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by mountaineers101 on Jan 8, 2012 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
CHRIS BENOIT!
I guess we could go with Mike Whitehead? Joe Son? Hermes Franca?
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good job Matt and Neil
Forrest… not so much
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:20 AM EST reply actions
and Brian good job
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
Woah there Matt!
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I Can't Believe This Show Almost Went Two Hours
But I’m glad it did as it had some great moments… such as Bishop just insinuating that The D.A. Neil Wagner is a homosexual!
i hate
forrest lynn
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
This show thread has made that more than clear.
by Blair Russell on Jan 8, 2012 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
i'm trying not to hate too much
But he is the reason I don’t listen to BE radio on a regular basis
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
Well Forrest is really only on the show these days during the post-fight shows, so feel free to listen in to the weekday shows.
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:26 AM EST up reply actions
Five fights? Two hours?
Nobody is more shocked than me. Also, let’s assume that he means that I’m constantly eating food.
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just for the record
I think you and Neil (and Brian( speak the truth
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 8, 2012 2:25 AM EST up reply actions
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