WWE Champion CM Punk To Walk Out With Chael Sonnen At UFC On Fox 2
by Josh Nason on Jan 4, 2012 4:30 PM EST
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A good segment of the MMA universe hates professional wrestling to no end. Any links between the two (see Brock Lesnar) are dismissed and disregarded by this segment quickly and with vitriol. One of the founders of this very site has gone on record with how much he dislikes the use of wrestling terms when discussing MMA.
Those people will then hate the news that came out Wednesday that WWE Champion and MMA enthusiast CM Punk will walk out with Chael Sonnen in his UFC On Fox 2 middleweight contender's match against Mark Munoz on Saturday, January 28.
The rumor was posted on the UG by FrontRowBrian and Sonnen confirmed the news Tuesday, according to MMA/pro wrestling expert Dave Meltzer. MMA Fighting's Ariel Helwani confirmed that Punk will not corner Sonnen during the fight.
The news again puts the spotlight on the informal partnership of sorts between the WWE and the UFC that has existed for years. Steve Austin, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, The Undertaker (Mark Calloway) and Dave Batista have all regularly attended UFC events with a famous post-fight staredown between Calloway and Lesnar during an Helwani interview making headlines in both industries.
Lesnar himself successfully made the jump to MMA after leaving WWE in 2004, while Batista was in talks with pre-Zuffa Strikeforce until last year. Former WWE standout Bobby Lashley has competed in Strikeforce and on the regional circuit for several years with varying success. In 2011, Dana White famously visited WWE chairman Vince McMahon in Stamford, CT, but didn't go into details about what and why.
Punk (Phil Brooks) appeared on the 100th edition of The MMA Hour with Helwani and is from Chicago. Meltzer said that Punk was taken off a WWE house show event that night, meaning they had to grant him permission to appear at the UFC event. Sonnen is known for his "wrestling style" promos and did a tryout at World Championship Wrestling's Power Plant training facility after graduating college.
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Good move by Sonnen
1) I doubt CM Punk will be shown by the cameras
2) This will get an inmense reaction from the Chicago fans
3)That reaction will look amazing on TV
It’s a cheap pop, sure but it’ll look great. I hope Chael uses “cult of personality” as his entrance song.
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by IRodC on Jan 4, 2012 4:32 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
I didn't know CM has the strap...
I need to get cable back. I really hope he some how makes it on camera, maybe for the Chael victory speech.
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by ANance on Jan 4, 2012 5:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Absolutely
I wouldn’t be surprised if Punk or any other wrestler for that matter has been helping Chael with his promos. Even if Chael isn’t doing this for a bigger pop it’s gotten to the point where we give him credit for shit he might not even be doing on purpose
I dunno about helping, but he flat out ripped off Roddy Pipers routine from his feud with Tito Santana. Just replace Mexico with Brazil and voila!
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by Mr. Socko on Jan 4, 2012 9:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS AN MMA WEBSITE
YOU KNOW WHAT?! I’M LEAVING. FUCK THIS PLACE.
by Matthew Roth on Jan 4, 2012 4:34 PM EST reply actions 22 recs
LOL @ Roth
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by jack knight starman on Jan 4, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, Thanks for the page view!!1!!!one!!
by JAYGK95 on Jan 4, 2012 8:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
you need to be more dramatic and self-important
Something like:
“Oh well, BE, you’ve lost me. I won’t be coming around here any more. This website has its good points, but the relentelss pro-wrestling commentary has driven me, and other dedicated readers away. Farewell … for ever.”
by Clifford J on Jan 4, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
mobile rec
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 4, 2012 5:13 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
HEY FVCK YOU ROTH
AND THANKS FOR THE PAGEVIEWS
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by ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ on Jan 4, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mobile rec the fuck outta this.
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by T.C. Engel on Jan 4, 2012 5:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Month officially made
I’m going to this event with my Son. We are both giant fans of both Punk and The Punk (Soennen) so this is like buying a Ferrari and finding out Katy Perry comes included! OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD! When worlds collide, my friends. Thanks for the knowledge, Matt, now get your ass over to a Pro Wrestling site hahahaaa!
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by Mr. Socko on Jan 4, 2012 6:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Damn...
Me too… To many wrestling and related articles.
by Rodrigo Vieira Ambar on Jan 4, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Hello
I’m here for the outrage
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by IRodC on Jan 4, 2012 4:35 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
This is so fucking awesome, and if you don’t like it, bite me.
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by KJ Gould on Jan 4, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 15 recs
Those guys were animals
"What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease."
This is perfect on so many levels
I’m only surprised it didn’t happen sooner.
by Damnatio Memoriae on Jan 4, 2012 4:39 PM EST reply actions
In other newss...
Dana is cool with Brock going back to WWE (per Josh Gross’s twitter)
In other news
Bam Bam Bigalow will be walking out with Roy Nelson for his next fight
by Ricardo Arguello on Jan 4, 2012 4:42 PM EST reply actions
Ummm... That may be a bit hard......
Bam Bam is dead….
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by jack knight starman on Jan 4, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
if I cared about wrestling, I would know that
Plus it was the only name I could remember. That and Doink the Clown.
shoulda went with Doink….
by Ricardo Arguello on Jan 4, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Bigelow got turned into hamburger in an MMA fight with Kimo Leopoldo
Back in the day.
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Franklin Goodish is the given name of one Bruiser Brody. Me and Scott (who you dismissively refer to as Bam Bam) are downing some Coors Light right now and playing Nintendo 2600 Pro Wrestling. I’m Kin Corn Karn and that bastard is Starman. I just suplexed him to death BWUAHAA HAAAAHAAA.
by Franklin Goodish on Jan 5, 2012 7:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know what is sadder
The fact that I’ll tell you that it’s correctly spelled “Bigelow” or the feact that you spelled it like Deuce Bigalow
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you say pota.....?
I say who gives a fuck ;-)
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by the-gentle-way on Jan 4, 2012 7:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Didn't Paul Heyman do some work with Strikeforce?
I seem to recall seeing him in some youtube videos with various Strikeforce fighters.
He produced a series of videos for them
Was on the verge of a deal a few years back that never came to fruition. Paul is a weird guy. Always on the verge of a major deal with some company that isn’t WWE, but doesn’t do it. I would imagine he’s on retainer and lives comfortably enough on that to not betray it.
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What does it matter who walks out with the fighters?
No, your dumb
by RashadsLeftNipple on Jan 4, 2012 4:46 PM EST reply actions
Chicago crowd cares
who walks out with the fighter… CM Punk is popular in Chicago and it’s pretty good marketing by Sonnen
The two best trash talkers in combat together.
FOX has absolutely no idea what it’s about to receive.
You just called both "combat"
Here comes the shitstorm
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Jericho ain't got nothing on Punk
Jericho’s great but Punk’s indy work alone was better than anything Jericho has ever done.
get the fuck out
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jan 4, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
No contest
The old man and the snake, The Lufthansa story, Punk’s promo/heel turn immediately after winning the ROH Championship, all better than Jericho’s greatest work. Using big words out-of-context and “bottom feeding trash bag hoe” are funny and great, but don’t hold a candle to Punk.
I guess you missed the 1,004 holds promo
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by IRodC on Jan 4, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
armBAR!
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 4, 2012 5:15 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 3 recs
hold number 704
armbar
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The Sakatchewan Spinning Nerve Hold
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by IRodC on Jan 4, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
armbar
"You should work for 15 minutes to knock your opponent out, submit him, or improve your position to give yourself the best chance of doing either." - Dan Hardy
742
The moss covered three handled redunzel
by JG87 on Jan 4, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just an FYI,
I’m imagining you guys talking like Homer’s three nerdy college roommates…and it almost makes it bearable.
"Maybe, you throw some pepper at him."
-Bas Rutten
"Somebody, track that one down, make warrior babies."
-Joe Rogan on Ronda Rousey
I liked the "greenberg" promo as well
Billy boy got so pissed at that.
"What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease."
why is this discussion even happening…
by Ricardo Arguello on Jan 4, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Dude
Jerichos latest Promo/Non-Promo is better than most of Punks work and I really like Punk.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Wouldn't go that far
Punks shoot promo this summer had me wanting to see more then Jericho’s non promo promo…….promo
by Thats It For you! on Jan 4, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
Punks promo got me back into caring. Jericho got me back into MARKING.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jan 4, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
vegasbatman u got a link for the jericho promo u speak of?
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 4, 2012 5:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLi9CVi7Ld8
Greatest lover ever during the day, Trainyard Sleeper at night.
Not sure it'll have the same effect
if you didn’t see the super creepy build up, but it’s so awesome.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
I can't believe I missed the return of Jericho
Fuck me running. I’m pissed now.
"What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease."
i just saw the part where he made it to the ring and i got chills
Jericho is one of the best of all time hands down.
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 4, 2012 5:52 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
i'm still lost.
am i a troll because i don’t think jericho is very good with a microphone? or is it because i said it twice? that would be weird because everyone else seems to be commenting multiple times about how awesome he is. i guess not following the herd is a bad thing.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jan 4, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Generally when 99.8% of people agree on something (Jericho’s awesome on the stick) and one person is an outlier, they get accused of trolling, because no one can actually believe that anyone can think this.
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I think you’re crazy too though, Jericho’s awesome on the mic. : )
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
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He’s no Matt Roth (cough), but he’s pretty good IMO.
"I don't know where this term "training camp" in MMA came from. There's no campground. There's no tents." - Nick Diaz
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WHOA
You’re clearly straight edge, so you have no idea what is good. Also, you probably like CM Punk because of it.
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Surrounded by "x"s?
Must mean something different than it used to.
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So awesome
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Strife is not impress
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by soilworker on Jan 4, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Better then The ayatollah of rock n rolla?
You sir are sadly mistaken… Jericho mindfucked a couple million ppl with out saying a word for 10 mins… Not to mention the only guy I know that could turn face to heel in front of a live crowd with out saying a word… And actually have him assist him in the turn. The man is good at what he does.
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by RECE ROCK on Jan 4, 2012 5:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Them* assist him ...
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by RECE ROCK on Jan 4, 2012 5:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously...
that was insane how he worked that. Unbelievable.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
What are you referring to?
"You should work for 15 minutes to knock your opponent out, submit him, or improve your position to give yourself the best chance of doing either." - Dan Hardy
The Jericho return “promo”. How was able to work the crowd that well and so hard without saying anything.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Sorry I hadn’t watched the video yet – got it
"You should work for 15 minutes to knock your opponent out, submit him, or improve your position to give yourself the best chance of doing either." - Dan Hardy
This is the greatest thing I've ever seen
"What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease."
Jericho also had the greatest debut in history.
Just watching it again gives me chills.
I like them both and would rather not compare the two.
To say that Punk is better than any of the Attitude Era icons this soon into his career is a bit much. His pops seem to be leveling out a bit lately.
by FighterHayabusa on Jan 4, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The crowds are the same for the PG era
They don’t boo as hard either, even for Vikki
by Thats It For you! on Jan 4, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
Hardest mark out I've ever had
And it’s not even close. I was a massive Jericho fan and completely lost my shit when this happened. I’ll never forget it.
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by Charles Awad on Jan 4, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i loved his return a few years back.
He said “you remembered!” to the crowd. It was clear it meant a lot to him.
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 4, 2012 5:50 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
No doubt
I barely watch anymore. Keep getting excited about some new thing, and disappointed a few weeks after it (Nexus infiltration, Punk’s pseudo shoot). I honestly didn’t realize he was back again. I’ll have to watch some of it on Youtube later.
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I didn't see that return
Is it online anywhere?
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
itshould be.
Id link but im on my phone.
Try youtubing save us y2j return
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 4, 2012 6:31 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
got it
This kicks so much ass
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
RIGHT ON
I was pissed when I caught a spoiler on accident about Y2J’s return. I’ve been a fan since his Smokey Mountain Wrestling days. He’s a great heel, as well as a great face, and a damn hard worker. I could fill a page with accolades! But I won’t, I promise! The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla has returned! Have A Nice Day!
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by Mr. Socko on Jan 4, 2012 8:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
jericho sucks.
anyone that thinks they are being clever by calling kurt angle “kirk angel” does not deserve a spot on any list of ‘best trash-talkers’. the rock was the master.
listen that dude
I think getting peoples names wrong on purpose is fucking hilarious.
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 4, 2012 6:48 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
you must
capture the shoot promo that he did to begin the summer of Punk
by Thats It For you! on Jan 4, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
The Summer of Punk
ROH version was better.
You're underground
You get wifi down there d00d??
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by Charles Awad on Jan 4, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
YES!
“You dumb bitch, I’m not holding a microphone!”
Fuck, I love Pro Wrestling
Nothing like a hillbilly, white trash demographic to flood into our sport and increase demand for freak shows.
No, you're not drunk. I am this good-looking.
You say it like there's little demand for freakshows in MMA
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So myopic
I’m a Minnesotan. Wrestling is HUGE here, and people who aren’t hillbillies are raised on it. People are quick to forget how wide-ranging wrestling fandom was in the late 90s.
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That's the truth
My dad grew up on the AWA, and so I was raised a wrestling fan in Minnesota as well, loved it through high school, which then turned into covering it for a few years at PWTorch, which transitioned me into MMA coverage when I had the opportunity. I haven’t outside of clips here and there in years, but that Jericho video from Monday is fantastic, and I’m looking forward to seeing Punk live in Chicago.
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by Mr. Socko on Jan 4, 2012 8:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
One of my earliest childhood memories was Dino Bravo, blood running down his face, carrying me on an elevator
My father worked at the old convention center and used to bring me with him to work. Lots of wrestling. Used to be looked after by those guys in the locker room a lot of the time.
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by Charles Awad on Jan 5, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, God bless God that those damn japanese never increased the amount of freakshow fights in mma
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 4, 2012 5:16 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
well when you put it like that
I’m all for increasing the number of good freakshows in the US. Japan has fallen off.
When I'm on the mic it goes down, CINTRON
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by The Lethal Haze on Jan 4, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Roth, get this pro wrestling bullshit out of my MMA.
Oh wait, Nason wrote this?
NEVER MIND, IT’S ALL GOOD. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, JOSH.
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by alicks on Jan 4, 2012 4:52 PM EST reply actions 13 recs
if he loses i just want munoz to lick chaels tears off his gloves via bj penn style just so when this goes terribly wrong i can sit back and do this
like water
and this was the way i felt watching the reem kill brock
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by Mac Marley on Jan 4, 2012 4:52 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Is this what modern WWE type guys look like? I don’t follow it whatsoever so it’s kinda surprising to me to see what looks like a 205 lb guy is the “WWE Champion”…
In my head I imagine these guys all blown up like Bobby lashley
after Benoit "benoit'd" his family
They’ve kinda pushed away from the overdosages of steroids and smaller guys have had some success. They still don’t like announcing that anybody weighs sub-215, but the 300 lb goliaths are kinda scarce now.
Still smaller.
He used to “weigh-in” at around 280, they dropped about 20=25 lbs on that one.
Brett Heart
broke the mold
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Yes, but not totally
He and Michaels broke the mold, but for those 10-15 years the majority of the guys were still monsters. Steve Austin was a smaller guy as well.
Although I never will contest that HBK wasn't a great worker....
He qot to the top and stayed at the top from being a company shill and keeping other people down
Bret at least wasn’t like that in that regards.
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by jack knight starman on Jan 4, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Hart...
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by RECE ROCK on Jan 4, 2012 5:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I am ashamed.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jan 4, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
On smaller guys
Is there anyone in wrestling as exciting as Evan Bourne?
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by T.C. Engel on Jan 4, 2012 6:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Currently both champs are small and from the indepent scene… For now anyway.
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by RECE ROCK on Jan 4, 2012 4:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what does from the independent scene mean?
Quietly leading Cecil Peoples Champs to victory and beyond.
All in the game yo, all in the game
by Our Bovine Public on Jan 4, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Basically smaller North American organizations that aren’t the WWE or TNA. Similar to MMA in that regard.
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Wonder if undertaker will be there to ask if anyone wants to do it ?
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by RECE ROCK on Jan 4, 2012 4:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Don;t joke about that
That is my best pickup line
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Does it work as good as jaguar cologne ?
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by RECE ROCK on Jan 4, 2012 5:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I still get play from Sex Panther
whores are such dumbshits.
CM Punk? wtf kinda name is that?
and is that a Pepsi logo tat on his left shoulder?
Blood's cheap.. its everywhere
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He hates cocacola as much as Brock hates bud light
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by RECE ROCK on Jan 4, 2012 5:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he damn well better with that ugly shit on his arm
Blood's cheap.. its everywhere
by Captain Leroy Hotdog Zanzibar on Jan 4, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
I'll give u that... It is one jacked up tat
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by RECE ROCK on Jan 4, 2012 5:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Whaa??
You don’t dig that Cobra (from GI Joe) insignia on his arm?
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by jack knight starman on Jan 4, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
Chaels is......
The best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be…….
even I couldn’t say that with a straight face.
People's champion, Linear champion
and the best damn Middleweight that ever lived!
cant wait to hear the CM Punk chants during the fight.
Guess i better change my pick from Chael via arm triangle in the 3rd to Chael via GTS in the 3rd.
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 4, 2012 5:21 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
Also there will be Judo chop breakdowns of the GTS and Anaconda Vice
by Matthew Roth on Jan 4, 2012 5:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
really?
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fuckin better be
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by Earl Montclair on Jan 4, 2012 5:30 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
The shitstorm is glorious
Will be even better once it gets closer, too.
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That dude looks a lot like Greg Jackson with hair.
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I'm sure he'll be delighted to be on a show that people actually watch!
by Steve W on Jan 4, 2012 5:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Check the Nielsens bubba…and then I will forgive your ignorance. Say something dopey smartass, and it’s Mandible Claw time for you! 4,000,000+ a week for Monday Night Raw. I just had this conversation last night. RUNTELLTHAT!
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by Mr. Socko on Jan 4, 2012 8:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why would wrestling haters be upset about this? We don’t hate the people, we hate their profession. It’s not that difficult to understand.
Seen a comment section?
Ever? For any sport?
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by WheelieMonkey on Jan 4, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't realize there was such great solidarity among anti-wrestling MMA fans
I think the idea that a wrestler is part of the production is offensive to some.
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I don't know who this guy is. I must be getting old. I just don't understand this world anymore.
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by pud333 on Jan 4, 2012 5:54 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Like most sports fans, I have no idea who CM Punk is
and I don’t care. I have to say, though, the UFC and WWE debate that has been erupting over the last month has been very interesting. I guess there has been more coverage since Roth is obviously a huge fan and Luke is not the head voice anymore.
Here’s my question to the WWE fans out there who love pointing out the similarities between the two promotions— do you also go to bad left hook to point out that Floyd Mayweather cuts WWE style promos on HBO? Does the WWE owe to boxing what you argue the UFC owes to pro wrestling?
I think all the promotions are related. But why is there a feeling among BE commentators that there is some type of “special” relationship between the UFC and the WWE? Is it Chael or Brock based?
I don’t watch wrestling and I don’t understand the outright passion that the letters WWE seem to illicit on this site.
by Gideon Jay on Jan 4, 2012 5:57 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
MMA is FAR more linked to Pro Wrestling
than any other sport. From PRIDE to BROCK and everything in between. I mean, DREAM just put PW matches into their huge NYE card. The sports are so linked they almost beg to be talked about together.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jan 4, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree
You should make it a post since I’m sure there’s more than a few readers that are also curious.
My guess is that there’s just a bleedover from pro wrestling fans that outgrew or became tired of that product and started watching MMA. It really is just overlap of the demographics. As such, these fans just want to draw connections between the two.
How can you think that
when the connections are so blatant. They are there and easy to see regardless of if you were a wrestling fan or not.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
PPV Business model would be the biggest
by Thats It For you! on Jan 4, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
A lot of us grew up watching it.
Floyd Mayweather actually participated in a WWE event. Ali was doing these kind of things before pro-wrestling got really big in the 80’s
It’s not just WWE, WWE it’s the company that everyone knows but most of us watched local wrestling or independent shows too
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It's easier to trace the history between MMA and Pro Wrestling
I think. And I’m not even talking UFC. Obviously the profession has changed but the professional wrestlers of the 1900s were legit tough men who would travel the world challenging everyone. t’s actually a huge part of the cross over between Judo and BJJ. When you fast forward to Japan, a lot of the early stars were right out of Pro Wrestling. Shooto and Pancrase both have legitimate ties.
Obviously you could cite the business model and the fact that Dana White emulates Vince McMahon both in personality and in practice of wanting to decimate and buy up competition.
It might be wrestling's influence on MMA and vice versa
I can’t be bothered to count all of them . Inoki, Shamrock and Lesnar are the more obvious ones who had an impact in both wrestling and MMA. Then there’s the amateur wrestling backgrounds of many pro wrestling and MMA’s pioneers. Dana White being a huge admirer of Vince McMahon. There’s a lot of similarities. No one’s saying pro wrestling isn’t fake or it requires anywhere near the amount of skills to succeed as you do in MMA. There’s just similarities. That’s all.
The promotional and historical similarities I get.
It’s the emotions from the BE commentators that I don’t understand. What is it about the WWE that breeds such a sense of loyalty and anger?
I don't know anyone who is a wrestling fan.
I have never, since the fourth grade, known anyone who is a wrestling fan. I’m not being facetious, I’m genuinely curious.
I think that's the crazy thing
It’s split…either you love it or you hate it. And it’s kind of the same way that MMA fans love saying ‘BOXING IS DEAD!’ following a poor card. It’s impossible for everyone to co-exist.
Thanks Matthew Roth.
Woah, this is the first time I’ve read that
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by IRodC on Jan 4, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Edit
Thanks Matthew RothIts Kid Nate’s fault.
by Thats It For you! on Jan 4, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
My View
Kids who have parents who never tell them what they are watching is a work usually end up hating it, and/or themselves for believing it. I started watching Pro Wrestling with my Son when he was five, and always explained to him that it was a show, and that the rasslers are working together, usually very hard, to put on a fun athletic show for the fans. He is 14 now, and watching with him is like watching with a PW Torch writer, talking about shoot interviews, working, selling, et cetera. He will be beginning amateur wrestling soon, and is a solid, well adjusted student with pretty good grades. It’s just something that if you don’t get it, you can’t be made to get it. But if you do get it, it is a whole lot of escapist fun!
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by Mr. Socko on Jan 4, 2012 8:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hating it for believing it
Actually for me, no one ever told me it was fake so I just kind of figured it out myself over time. Once I figured out it wasn’t real, it really didn’t matter to me, since I found it entertaining if not goofy.
My appreciation for MMA is totally separate and judged on different merits. I use to like pro wrestling as a kid for the characters, outrageous plots, and often the athleticism (which there is a lot). MMA for me, while being primarily entertaining, is more about the competition.
Right on, Brother. I watch rasslin’ strictly to be entertained BY their hard work and shenanigans. But the competition is what brought me back after the Tank Abbot era. Thank goodness FUEL is running old PRIDE and UFC events to help me catch up on what I missed. I’m going to get to see my first PRIDE fights tonight at 11 PM Central, and I am pretty excited. BJ Penn put my ass in this seat!
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by Mr. Socko on Jan 4, 2012 9:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yep, the UFC was my first experience with MMA (before the term was even coined). But it was Pride that really hooked me. For all the flaws that Pride had, the production value and camera work was just epic.
They also built up their fighters as characters with these nicknames like Shogun, Rampage, the Demolition Man, along with the team rivalries like Brazilian Top Team vs Chute Boxe. So in a way, it was a perfect bridge between the cinematic entertainment feel of pro wrestling and the pure competition of UFC.
Sounds like what I was saying the UFC needed to do the other night. Now I am REALLY pumped for some PRIDE fighting!
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by Mr. Socko on Jan 4, 2012 10:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I just don’t like people saying stupid things, and the whining about the wrestling is very stupid. If I was reading Bad Left hook and saw people whining about the Floyd stuff I would tell them they were stupid, just like I told people that were spouting nonsense about poker when Full Tilt was all over the place that they were stupid, and just like I told the people on the poker sites that they were stupid when they spouted nonsense about mma.
You don’t have to like wrestling, I definitely don’t watch it very much anymore, but the attitude some of the people have about wrestling is just insane. yes, it’s fake, so is 70% of the shit in the entertainment business. No one is forcing anyone to watch wrestling, no one is forcing you to read the posts on wrestling. If you don’t watch it, good for you, if you don’t want to read about it, don’t.
If you are going to cry because you think wrestling is the lowest common denominator and you think that associating it with MMA is going to “hurt the sport” you need to shut the fuck up and realize that there are a bunch of idiots that think the same thing about mma.
by Phildo on Jan 4, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Because Mayweather is a giant douche that wrestling fans don’t give two shites about. As a boxing fan, I hate his paper tiger, money flaunting ass more than I hate asparagus, and I bloody well hate asparagus. he is a punk, and I would say THAT to his face. Every time I see his Pacquaio dodging ass I swear I want to just puke. He sickens me…rasslers are more real than him, and that’s the truth. RUNTELLTHAT!
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by Mr. Socko on Jan 5, 2012 2:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Could a more worthless and annoying piece of video (not audio mind you) be found? I dont particularly like this move. I think Chael needs to retain a certain ambiguity regarding his level of sanity. the more he openly associates with the WWE pros the less effective and more dismissable his schtick becomes. If we are continuously reminded that his personality is a slightly more muted and mma version of idiots like this Punk guy then he will find his audience will lose interest. what makes chael special is the fact that he is perceived as unique, a complete one of a kind . Chael, dont dminish your own talent by exposing it’s cheap and common heritage.
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by Hardy's in your face on Jan 4, 2012 6:01 PM EST reply actions
It's not about that
CM Punk is not gonna cut a promo in a UFC event.
It’s because CM Punk gets this kind of reaction in Chicago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84HA9CyHVSQ
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by IRodC on Jan 4, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that shit gives me chills
such a great crowd and moment
by Thats It For you! on Jan 4, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Punk isn’t an idiot. i was just judging too quickly on the little information i had. He is far more boring than Chael as far as i can tell. Since you called me out on my big mouth I forced myself to do some resaerch and listen to his mike work. I guess his personality is less arrogant and obnoxious than most of his peers but not particularly interesting as far as i can tell. The main point is that a regular sports fan ,IMO, is less likely to take Chael’s schtick seriously the more he associates with WWE stars cause they are know for insanly flambouyent ramblings.
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by Hardy's in your face on Jan 4, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
cripes
the way the top of his hair seems to actually pulsate… hrrghh
by Pyrgz Krum on Jan 4, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm assuming you watched his star making shoot promo
Together we are Ruining Your Special Night. Twice.
I grew up in the 80's and loved it.
Around 15 dropped it for boxing and MMA. Still, if I ever here some bagpipes I’m waiting Rowdy Roddy Piper to come out.
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That's too bad.
A lot of my friends who I watch sports with don’t take MMA seriously yet because they feel it’s like WWE and no matter how much I try to tell them what’s different, they always have a comeback about how it has similarities, and they’re always right.
I was hoping to use this event on FOX to bring some of them on board, but I’m thinking that may be a bad idea.
I guess it’s not a problem and fake-fighter is walking out with Chael as long as they don’t mention who he is on the broadcast. Do you think they will? I hope not.
Also, what’s with all the WWE coverage on this site? I know MMA and WWE share a large fan base, but my favorite thing about this site was always its integrity and I think the WWE posts really look bad on this site. Just my opinion.
How does an article that creates discussion hurt its integrity?
Or Intensity?
Or Intelligence?
by Thats It For you! on Jan 4, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
Look bad? Get over yourself. This is the only time I here BS about a sport not having integrity cause it’s related to pro wrestling. If your friends can’t see two guys beating the shit out of each other and think its legitimate, there’s a problem. That’s just laughable. They show WWE and OTHER sports ppl in crowd. Celebrities like David Spade etc. UFC wants the publicity and tons of ppl watch WWE so they’re gonna show them.
by Inspectorxr5 on Jan 4, 2012 7:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Your friends sound narrow minded and stupid
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jan 4, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Your friends are right
There are similarties but if they can’t see what’s a sport and what isn’t then you might be better off letting them find out about MMA themselves.
How do they watch sports if they hate wrestling so much?
I mean, they gave up on baseball when bob uecker showed up at wreslemania 3. Maybe if they’re too young for that they gave up when Pete Rose got tombstoned. And I’m sure they gave up on basketball when Karl Malone fought Hulk Hogan, or when Shaq showed up all those times. Can’t watch football since the super bowl when HHH gave Rodgers a belt right after the game last year, and Bret Hart used to own a hockey team, sucks for your friends, I guess.
I guess they all should have given up on MMA when Tito Ortiz was in TNA a long time ago.
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and Frank Trigg
But then again, everyone had given up on Trigg already
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by AfroSamurai on Jan 4, 2012 7:21 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Joe and Goldy won’t have to mention him…odds are the chants of C.M. Punk are gonna do that for them!
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by Mr. Socko on Jan 4, 2012 8:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow One of two things has happened...
Brock brought all his fans to BE and they arent leaving or mma fans and pro wrestling fans really blend more than I thought sad day for me sad day indeed
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by AfroSamurai on Jan 4, 2012 7:18 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Why sad?
It’s not like people can’t coexist because they like different things.
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If he comes out to Cult of Personality i'll be very happy
Celebrities walk out with fighters in boxing every now and again no difference for this one.
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by spider webb on Jan 4, 2012 7:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That’s “rasslin’” son, keep it straight!
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by Mr. Socko on Jan 4, 2012 9:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is awesome
It will enrage the elitists who get offended when MMA is linked to fake pro-wrestling in any way. It will delight Sonnen fans who already love his pro-wrestling style antics, and it will add to the overall spectacle. All around awesome.
I consider myself a softcore fan.
Typo
Am I the only one to notice the typo that made it very confusing to read?
MMA Fighting’s Ariel Helwani confirmed that Punk will not corner Sonnen during the fight.
The WWE is trolling the UFC
Dana’s genial relationship with Vince is starting to be too much. They openly posed the question: “Is Brock was going to go back to the WWE after his loss?” Not the general term wrestling, but the WWE. I thought I was watching a WWE commercial during UFC Tonight. The lines blurring is not a good thing for the UFC. If I’m the UFC I never utter the name WWE, on any program. Ever.
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by warren305 on Jan 4, 2012 8:27 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
You’re dumb.
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by Mr. Socko on Jan 5, 2012 2:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Google!
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by RECE ROCK on Jan 4, 2012 10:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What do you have against Nick Ring?
Did you hit him in the bean bag? There’s no shame in attacking a criminal’s bean bag.
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by Mr. Socko on Jan 5, 2012 2:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
So is Chael going to the WWE after his contract is up or what?
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