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The Legacy Of Badr Hari: An All Time Great And A Disappointment

Badr Hari prepares for Gokhan Saki at a public workout. Picture via It's Showtime.

For good and for ill, no heavyweight kickboxer in the past few years has had the same level of impact as Badr Hari. The two time K-1 Grand Prix runner-up is a complex figure - one of the best Heavyweights in the world, but also his own worst enemy. Through his many ups and downs and complex turns, he has always remained a lightning rod of fan interest. And this Saturday, he fights in kickboxing for the last time.

This Saturday, January 28 Badr Hari faces Gokhan Saki in what is being billed as Hari's retirement fight from kickboxing. The fight headlines a stacked It's Showtime show from The Netherlands. The show airs live at 3:00 p.m. EST on HDNet. Look for more coverage on the entire show here at Bloody Elbow later this week.

As Hari plans a transition to boxing, leaving behind his roots in kickboxing, the time is right to look back at the winding road of his career. How will we remember Badr Hari the kickboxer? What is this man's legacy?

In looking over the totality of Hari's career, two moments stand above the rest, and it's the contrast between those two moments that I think best sums up what he's all about. The first is a moment we talked about recently thanks to Edson Barboza at UFC 142 - the Lekobuster.

In late 2005, Badr Hari fought for the first time on a K-1 card in Japan. The fight was a rematch, with the 20 year old Hari looking to avenge a loss suffered earlier that year. Stefan Leko had defeated Hari via spinning back kick to the ribs on an It's Showtime show in June. Now, Hari had a shot at the big stage, but to make his mark, he would need to avenge that loss and take out Leko - one of K-1's top stars of that era, undefeated since 2002. Hari came in to that fight to prove himself, and that is exactly what he did. Not content to simply defeat Leko, Hari scored one of the all time K-1 great KO's, taking the spinning back kick Leko used against him and adjusting it to a spinning wheel kick to Leko's jaw. It's an incredible KO, a great fight, and a true passing of the torch moment, as neither man's career would ever be quite the same again.

Partly on the strength of that KO, and partly because of his notoriously volatile nature, Badr Hari spent the next few years establishing himself as the figurehead of the new generation of K-1 heavyweights. During the mid-2000's, K-1 shows had a lot of problems, with fan interest waning. Starting in 2008, a new crop of young Heavyweights began to really take center stage away from the old guard, and Hari was the clear head of that new wave. That idea of old guard vs. new culminated in the 2008 K-1 Grand Prix, a show that goes down as one of the best GP's in K-1 history, but also one of the most notorious.

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Heading into the show, this old vs. new theme was played up. In the opening round, that battle was symbolized by the Peter Aerts vs. Badr Hari fight - the two definitive symbols of their generations meeting in the Grand Prix. When Hari stopped the legend Aerts in round 2, the message was clear - the new guard was in control now. That idea was only deepened in the semi-finals, when Hari and fellow young gun Errol Zimmerman squared off in the 2008 K-1 fight of the year. Hari emerged victorious, setting up a final with 2 time champion Remy Bonjasky. Clearly the stage was set - Hari would win, and the new guard would reign.

Instead, what we got was the second defining moment in Hari's career. At the start of the second round, the young fighter, frustrated at Bonjasky, threw the former champion to the ground and flagrantly stomped him. It was a clear, malicious foul, and an embarrassment. Hari was disqualified, and for the only time in Grand Prix history, the finals ended in a DQ win.

2009 saw Hari bounce back with a KO over Semmy Schilt and much praise for being a new, mature Hari. But in early 2010, the frustration struck again, as in a near repeat of the Bonjasky incident, Hari threw Hesdy Gerges to the mat in an It's Showtime title fight, kicked Gerges when he was down, and was promptly disqualified. Again. Around that same time, Hari was involved in an assault on a nightclub doorman in Amsterdam. Wanted by the police, he fled to Morocco, where he spent much of 2010 in exile. He did eventually return, sorted things out with the police, and had a return fight in 2011 against the overmatched Gregory Tony. This Saturday's fight with Saki will be only his second since the Gerges DQ nearly 2 years ago.

As we look at his career, it's those two moments and what they symbolize that really sum up Badr Hari. On one hand, he is a tremendous fighter, capable of highlight reel KO's. On the other, he's a man with clear demons, who never managed to quite get them under control and cost himself severely on more than one occasion. Through it all, he has remained a fascinating, dynamic fighter - one of the only heavyweights of this era who provides that "must watch" feeling.

Perhaps the greatest loss of Hari's career is the way it fizzled out. His last two years have been marked by inactivity, with Hari wasting his prodigious talents on the sidelines. But he could change that this weekend. Hari ends his career fighting Gokhan Saki - one of the best Heavyweights in the world. If he comes in focused, we could see one last glimpse of the man who shattered Leko's jaw, who knocked Schilt out, who stopped The Reem, who proved that he was one of the best in the world. But if his head is not on straight, we could also get the man who kicked a downed Bonjasky, who made the same mistake against Gerges, who showed that he didn't have the mental toughness to consistently win at the highest level of the sport.

The Saki fight will be our final taste of Badr Hari, and will leave us with that lasting impression. But no matter how the Saki fight plays out, the truth of Hari is that he is two things - an all time great, and a disappointment.

Despite any of his troubles (or perhaps, because of them) when he leaves, there will be a huge gap in the world of kickboxing. The Heavyweight division will be a more boring place without him. So get ready to enjoy the volatile unpredictability of Badr Hari one last time this Saturday.

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Bravo.

Not a huge kickboxing fan, but very interesting look at maybe one of the most fascinating characters in sports today.

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by Paulo Filho's Psychiatrist on Jan 24, 2012 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, it’s a shame he never (well, not yet at least) had a chance to reach US audiences, as I think he would have drawn a lot of eyes to his fights. He just has that kind of air about him that makes you want to tune in. Writing this I realized how much his absence has hurt my interest in the HW scene in the past 2 years.

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by Fraser Coffeen on Jan 24, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

yes i agree

although as far as i remember he was the first fighter to every had been introduced for the American audience in that 2 part HD Net series. Yes these 2 years were very long without Badr and I m still not sure if he does the best but with the dead of K-1 and with its Showtime being the only organization now which counts it clearly doesnt bring him enough money to stay in kickboxing now. I m very sorry about it. He is one of the best talents and clearly the biggest standup stars and has a half-god status in Morocco. I have still doubts if he reaches what he wants in the US on the boxing scene. I have made a bet sometime ago that in 2 years he’s going to return to kickboxing. If K-1 awakes maybe sooner. And the last word. Its Showtime’s promotion of this fight which should be huge is almost equal to nothing which is quite sad.

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by szanpan on Jan 25, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

nice piece, thanks.

not to be a dick, but ive always wondered what that patch on haris back is from.

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by gspmademegay on Jan 24, 2012 4:01 PM EST reply actions  

Birthmark

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by Fraser Coffeen on Jan 24, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

oh. thanks

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by gspmademegay on Jan 24, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

It's his werewolf patch!

He even called it that himself, heh.

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by Horselover Fat on Jan 24, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

yes when K-1 reigned it was GREAT

i hope it returns it was FEG organization which buried it :)

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by szanpan on Jan 25, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

is it me

or is badr hari too sloppy to excel in boxing?

by P86 on Jan 24, 2012 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

Nope, not just you.

He’s gonna get KO’d against anyone half way good.

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by Rob Young on Jan 24, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean to a certain extent it's hard to predict exactly how he'll change his style to adjust

But I could see him beating a couple decent guys and getting a payday beatdown at the hands of a Klitschko, maybe?

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by joker24 on Jan 24, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt he’d get anywhere near a Klitschko.

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by andrew861 on Jan 24, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably because they’d jab him from halfway across the continent like they do every other opponent… /snoozefest.

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by Patrick Tenney on Jan 24, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

You are not alone here. He’s sloppy and his chin is not the best.

On the plus side, he has been talking about boxing for a long time, and has taken steps to make a more serious, dedicated run at it. He met with Naazim Richardson, who had good things to say. If he’s promoted properly, and brought up against some HW cans out there, he can carve out a nice spot for himself.

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by Fraser Coffeen on Jan 24, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Badr is a grear kickboxer mainly because of his muay thai background

the drwaback are that he took on too much weight for his fights against the mountain-huge Sem Schilt and also against Overeem his best shape was when we could see him fighting agains Ruslan Karaev around 2007/8. Only the tremenduous muscle make him look like sloppy but in the same way then all the heavyweights may be called kinda sloppy too no?
In his past fights we could clearly see his will because he went on to use his hands solely.
I have doubts on his boxing career though because it would take years for him to grow in the competiton… but i wish him all the best in the same time.

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by szanpan on Jan 25, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

he’s fought in mma once before

tapped to a forearm choke

he hates mma

by Pyrgz Krum on Jan 24, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

forearm choke?

my bjj knowledge is limited

but let me guess

is that the one where you just turn your head to the side to defend?

by Cunny on Jan 24, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

Badr Hari has a visible loathing for any sort of groundwork – his stomps of opponents notwithstanding.

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by Ben Thapa on Jan 24, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

That choke is the plague of kickboxers everywhere. Hari lost to it. Branko Cikatic lost to it. There’s someone else I am forgetting too.

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by Fraser Coffeen on Jan 24, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

somebody tapped to it in early pride

guessing it was a kickboxer

i forget who

bas was going on about how easy it was to defend

by Cunny on Jan 25, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

i dunno, so hes choosing to be a dick?

thats either really stupid of him, or…maybe he has some demons?

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by gspmademegay on Jan 24, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHA thats good

:D and yes he does have his demons. He is the one Nick Diaz should be if he would really go out there to FIGHT and not only to fight with his words. Badr went out always to fight and to win on whatever costs and then he paid the price :) many people call Nick disturbed and so and he is clearly promoting himself in a way as so but dont forget he was never DQedthere in the ring..

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by szanpan on Jan 25, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

If he did

You could sue him and become a millionaire. Just food for thought.

by discoandherpes on Jan 24, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

thats fun :D and great read by the way !

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by szanpan on Jan 25, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe the only thing that's been left out that Bonjansky is no ordinary fighter either

and his style is very very stressful to many heavyweights in the division. Not Badr alone he s stressed out but also Overeem lost to him and many others not including Sem Schilt who is kinda the Chuck Norris of the K-1 :D:D

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by szanpan on Jan 25, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

KGN,

Well said, just very well said man.

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by DankNabbot on Jan 24, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Great post

I’m planning to watch this fight now.

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by Dangit! on Jan 24, 2012 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

nah

this really has more to do with maturity and deep-rooted anger problems than intelligence.
it’s a shame that he has been his own biggest obstacle.

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by Victor Rodriguez on Jan 24, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Also, seeing Hari before the opening bell scares me.

He looks like he’s going to rip your head off and drink from the ensuing blood stream.

by Ars Nova on Jan 24, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not really,

he was doing a pre-university secondary education in the Dutch education system but dropped out eventually.

So it’s safe to say he’s no Paul Harris.

by Mizu on Jan 24, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Good retrospective Fraser.

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by Machiel Van on Jan 24, 2012 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

Good article! It’s just a damn shame, what has happened with Hari’s career. And this horrible idea of going into regular boxing.. quite depressing. He’s the most intriguing character in kickboxing the last decade (or half at least), always exciting to watch, and an incredible talent. Definitely pumped for the fight on Saturday though.

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by Horselover Fat on Jan 24, 2012 5:15 PM EST reply actions  

Hari is exciting to watch, great offensive fighter and with the worst chin i’ve ever seen on a top level fighter. He makes Wlad Klitschko look like George Chuvalo. I’d back 3 or 4 guys from here in the UK alone to KO him in a boxing match.

by sheikybaby on Jan 24, 2012 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

Very nice look

At Hari. He’s so charismatic and compelling; if he had his head on straight, he could be a superstar, but that’s never going to happen. We’ll just have to enjoy the trail of destruction he’s blazed over the last few years.
Anybody else watch the Voice Vs. Hari? The man’s terrifying.

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by Patrick Wyman on Jan 24, 2012 6:07 PM EST reply actions  

yup as a Badr fan i watched it and Badr is great and very charismatic

and he is a superstar indeed.

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by szanpan on Jan 25, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Hari's antics are frustrating, but he's just too damn good

That audience reaction in Lyon pretty much sums it up. No matter what you think of Badr Hari, he is one of those athletes who you just have to watch.

by magnetic on Jan 24, 2012 6:15 PM EST reply actions  

When/if he makes his boxing debut

I expect him to get disqualified. He’ll probably be doing well until something in his head snaps and then he would proceed to kick the shit out of his opponent.

by av1o3 on Jan 24, 2012 6:17 PM EST reply actions  

You have to admit

That would be fucking fun to watch!

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by hardlyworking on Jan 24, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHA yes you are not the only one who replays this scene in head

there s been a talk about it in standup fighting circles too :D:D

The bad this is, if he gets DQ d in the States then there s no way back for him over there. He was loved in K-1 and in Holland so DQs were almost forgotten over there… i have serious doubts about all this boxing stuff.. but the guy is still not old and boxing is the only logical step for him. Also boxers earn much much more than any standup nowadays…

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by szanpan on Jan 25, 2012 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

HDNet is showing IS live??!!?!

I had no idea. Plus we get Ghita-Gerges, Manhoef-Spong, and Verhoeven-Bonecrusher live? What a kick-ass Saturday of fights this is gonna be.

by exzacht on Jan 24, 2012 7:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Well…

Manhoef vs. Spong is a prelim (why?!) so it won’t air LIVE on HDNet. They said they will air it… eventually. But you can also stream the whole card, including prelims, through Its Showtime’s own site if you prefer.

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by Fraser Coffeen on Jan 24, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently if you buy the stream from their homepage, you'll get all 12 fights

Great success! Cost is 10 euro (roughly 13 USD)

Many fans have took to Twitter and Facebook to let It’s Showtime know that they want the full fight card featuring 12 fights to be shown, rather than just 6 fights on the main card. It’s Showtime has responded to the requests from its fans with some great news.

All 12 fights on this Saturday’s It’s Showtime card will be streamed on showtimefights.com. We’ll all be able to see the great fights that we thought we never would, like Tyrone Spong vs. Melvin Manhoef and Yohan Lidon vs. L’houcine “Aussie” Ouzgni for the It’s Showtime 73MAX World Title.

It’s Showtime’s undercard fights usually never see the light of day. With such a stacked card like this though, it was a good move to listen to the fans and stream the entire fight card.

HDNet will be showing the six fight main card portion featuring Badr Hari vs. Gokhan Saki and Daniel Ghita live. The undercard featuring Melvin Manhoef vs. Tyrone Spong and L’houcine “Aussie” Ouzgni vs. Yohan Lidon will be aired on February 3rd.

http://liverkick.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1221:its-showtime-will-stream-all-12-fights-including-spong-vs-manhoef-live-on-january-28&catid=37:kickboxing

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by Horselover Fat on Jan 24, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Spong vs. Manhoef, Aussie vs. Lidon, etc.

The 6 fight undercard with Spong vs. Manhoef, Aussie vs. Lidon will be on HDNet on February 3.

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by Rian Scalia on Jan 24, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Saki is my favourite striker in anything.

He is so lighnting fast and his combination work is gorgeous. I hope he wrecks hari something terrible.

by Beren on Jan 24, 2012 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

Such a shame I havent seen him fight live yet, is his really worth watching over Davis Vs Evans or should I watch it the next day ?

by MMA214 on Jan 24, 2012 10:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

No need to decide what to watch.

It’s live on HDNet in the afternoon and if you order the stream, it’ll be in the morning/afternoon, depending on timezone.

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by Rian Scalia on Jan 24, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Main card begins 3 PM ET in the US.. so just watch this first, and then UFC later

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by Horselover Fat on Jan 25, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I still enjoy watching this every week!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYSAwFEEHPs

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by Sanderman on Jan 25, 2012 8:53 AM EST reply actions  

He`s the Nick Diz of kickboxing

As much as I hate his personality I love his fighting. Besides who can hold a grudge against the guy who whiped the grin off that smug bastard Overeem (whom I cant fucking abide)

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