Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Thinks Alistair Overeem Is Not Big Enough To Beat Junior Dos Santos
by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 23, 2012 12:13 PM EST
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Yesterday we saw Bas Rutten say that Alistair Overeem would lose to Junior dos Santos because of having a "glass jaw" and now today we can add Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira to those picking dos Santos. This time not due to being "chinny" but because he isn't big enough.
Junior dos Santos will defend his title against Alistair Overeem in the middle of the year. What are your thoughts about that?
Cigano wins via knockout, I'm sure of that. He's a lot faster, knows how to move, he won't get that knee, and he's much more complete and has much more stamina, and that'll make a great difference. Overeem has never defeated someone as big as Cigano.
How do you see Overeem's evolution since Pride, where he fought names like Shogun, Arona and your brother, Rogerio?
Alistair Overeem is a lot bigger, stronger, more explosive, but not big enough to beat Junior dos Santos.
So now the 6'5" 260+ pound Overeem is too small for the shorter and lighter Junior dos Santos?
Interesting.
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Hmmm...
Not counting JDS out by any means (I think he will win), but it won’t be determined by his size. Very strange assessment.
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I think he meant...
“He might be big, but not big enough to beat JDS, taking their skillsets into account.”
Kinda like…
“Jose Aldo might be fast, but not fast enough to beat Roy Nelson, taking Roy Nelson’s belly into account.” or… “Jose Aldo is a lot faster, smarter, more explosive than he used to be, but still not fast enough to beat Roy Nelson.”
Clearly Jose Aldo is WAY quicker than Nelson, but he’d get crushed (literally) because of other factors.
by Charlie Offenbacher on Jan 23, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
(Overeem is obviously bigger but still maybe not big enough to make up for JDS' skills)
by Charlie Offenbacher on Jan 23, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That's what I think he meant.
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by Sweet Scientist on Jan 23, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
In an old school vale tudo fight
I’d take Aldo.
by discoandherpes on Jan 23, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Same here
He couldn’t touch Jose on his feet and wouldn’t have a pray at getting him down.
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Idk about that.
If Roy could get his hands on Jose, he has good clinch takedowns and would probably overpower Aldo. On top, Roy has great pressure and Aldo would have a really hard time escaping and surviving.
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by ElliotMatheny on Jan 23, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Hey! We haven't seen you in a while.
Ahoy-hoy.
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by Sugel Mendoza on Jan 23, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
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"God loves violence... Why else would there be so much of it? It's in us. It's what we are. We wage war, we burn sacrifices, and pillage and plunder and tear at the flesh of our brothers. And why? Because God gave us violence to wage in his honor... There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?"
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by ElliotMatheny on Jan 23, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
All this time I was under the assumption that you left BE in shame.
After all, I would too after a futile attempt to fade psychoblack.
Ahoy-hoy.
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by Sugel Mendoza on Jan 23, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
I still maintain that psychoblack is a highly fadable individual.
"God loves violence... Why else would there be so much of it? It's in us. It's what we are. We wage war, we burn sacrifices, and pillage and plunder and tear at the flesh of our brothers. And why? Because God gave us violence to wage in his honor... There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?"
- Warden of Ashecliffe Hospital
by ElliotMatheny on Jan 23, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
No he is not. In believing that he can be, you're only fading yourself.
Now if you would be so kind as to,
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by Sugel Mendoza on Jan 23, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
If Roy could get his hands on Jose,
That’s a huge if.
They’re on different planet in terms if speed and mobility.
I could see Jose dancing around Roy for 20 minutes and then beating the gassed chubby man viciously.
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wow
I need some lunch and a nap.
They’re on different planets in terms of speed and mobility.
I could see Jose dancing around Roy for 20 minutes and then beating the gassed, chubby man viciously.
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"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson
Roy has very good stamina, though.
I could maybe see Aldo on his bike, trying to wear Roy down with round kicks and speedy combos, but he would REALLY have to watch out for Nelson’s big OHR, and basically never get caught in a clinch situation.
Roy has at least 5 inches and around 100 lbs on Jose.
"God loves violence... Why else would there be so much of it? It's in us. It's what we are. We wage war, we burn sacrifices, and pillage and plunder and tear at the flesh of our brothers. And why? Because God gave us violence to wage in his honor... There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?"
- Warden of Ashecliffe Hospital
by ElliotMatheny on Jan 23, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
not really
Roy has good HW stamina fighting at his own pace.
Its not even comparable.
Roy’s size advantage comes at speed disadvantage that would essentially make it impossible for him to catch a man who is way too fast for other elite FW’s.
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Are we seriously dissecting a matchup between Jose Aldo and Roy Nelson?
And Roy could do a shooting star press and knock Aldo out. Even if he misses, the shockwave would destroy everything in a 1 mile radius.
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by Sugel Mendoza on Jan 23, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
lol
Eliot and I have a long history of silly, fun debates.
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btw
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Agreed, but
in a broom closet, I’ll take Roy…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 23, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Lets be real
Roy Nelson would be undefeated if his fight purse consisted of a six month supply of Burger King.
by discoandherpes on Jan 23, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly!
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by The American Ronin on Jan 23, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
If the space was small enough, Roy all day.
But even in the WEC cage I think Aldo would run circles around him.
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Yep
Think Spiderman vs. The Blob…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 24, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
The big he is talking about regarding Cigano, I think is more about his skill and place in the division. Reem hasn’t faced anyone at HW as big, in skill and stature, as Junior.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Jan 23, 2012 2:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know if he was being literal necessarily
Or maybe he meant that even though Overeem is bigger, stronger, more explosive it’s not going to be enough to beat JDS.
by discoandherpes on Jan 23, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Yeah like big=good …that’s how I perceived it
by Afrotikiman on Jan 23, 2012 12:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not how I perceived it but it makes a lot more sense that way
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I put in GSP is Me and I got
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Then I put that in and I got
“Exposed is I”
HA! That proves it.
by discoandherpes on Jan 23, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
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by dajulzta on Jan 23, 2012 4:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don’t think he meant literal size
by Afrotikiman on Jan 23, 2012 12:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think JDS takes it, but...
Reem has defeated somebody bigger than JDS. That Brock guy for example.
by truck on Jan 23, 2012 12:17 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I guess Brock is tiny compared to JDS
by TheDreadedMarco on Jan 23, 2012 12:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Maybe he should try looking them over side by side with the eye that Fedor didn't destroy
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I disagree that JDS is more complete than Overeem.
JDS is excellent at what he does, striking.
Doesn’t make him a complete fighter.
I am willing to test myself against the toughest fighters in the world, in front of hundreds of thousands or even millions of fans, over and over again. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, but I always come to fight. I've been doing this for the past fourteen years, and I have at least a few more strong years left in me. What have you done in the past fourteen years other than act like a moron on this forum and hang on Anderson's nuts? - Dan Henderson.
But we've seen in MMA that even if you aren't as well rounded as your opponent
If you can enforce your style of fight, you can continue to win.
by discoandherpes on Jan 23, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
This is a gross simplification of JDS's talents
He’s now been in, by my count against 3 BJJ black belts, and 2 elite level college wrestlers, and nobody has ever been able to put him on the ground for more than a few seconds. JDS has great hips, a great base, and a BJJ style ideally suited to the scrambles and escapes he needs to keep the fight where he wants it.
This idea that he’s just a one-dimensional striker is garbage and needs to die.
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by Dave Strummer on Jan 23, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Goes for both guys
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
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Yeah
Overeem is pretty well balanced too, though I don’t think he’s demonstrated the level of TDD and scramble that JDS has shown.
The truth about this fight, is that it almost certainly will take place entirely standing, but neither guy would be where he is, if he didn’t have more in his arsenal than good striking.
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by Dave Strummer on Jan 23, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
I think they're equally well-rounded
as JDS hasn’t shown he has the submission game that Alistair has either.
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Many emphasize the Reem's striking
but forget that around half of his wins are by submission (not just to strikes either) and that he placed in the European ADCC circuit. JDS has his work cut out for him, but this fight will rock!
by dajulzta on Jan 23, 2012 4:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Literally every time Rogan and Goldberg discuss JDS they mention his boxing skills. It gives many observers the impression that he has nothing else to offer. Rogan does this whole diatribe about how JDS has one great skill and it’s so much better than any of his opponents that it makes up for his other “alleged” deficiencies. We haven’t had much of a chance to see JDS in the ground game because he’s so difficult to put on his back. He’s more athletic and physically strong than most people realize and it helps him keep balance shrug off opponents to keep distance.
Clearly Overeem needs to move up to Rumbleweight
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by SSreporters on Jan 23, 2012 12:22 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
I chortled out loud reading this
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by Andy Anderson on Jan 23, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Peach Cobblerweight?
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by NickRingp4pGOAT on Jan 24, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I think alot of people mistaking what he meant by "He's not big enough"
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by SentientAndroid on Jan 23, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
The only loss in JDS's career
Was to Joaquim Ferreira, a 5’11" Light Heavyweight.
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by BVandDietPepsi on Jan 23, 2012 12:28 PM EST reply actions
not big enough?
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by filo bedo on Jan 23, 2012 12:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Evidence...
…of too many concussions of Nog. He’s just talking out his ass and not his brains.
by TrailerParkTrash on Jan 23, 2012 12:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Brett Rogers is pretty big too I think
its a weird statement, but c’mon, Nog is basically like JDS’s second dad. What do we expect?
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bullshit
from a homophobe, reem cud lose of course, but size wont b the determining factor if that comes to pass.
'if you don't have humility as a fighter, fighting will bring humility to you...'
To be fair,
I think Nogueira would also pick against such legendary big men such as “Big Country” Bryan Reeves and Zaza Pachulia. That is to say, I think he’s saying that no amount of size is great enough to overcome the skill gap he believes separates Cigano and Alistair.
I think what Nog was trying to say is that Overeem, who is known for being big, would have to be 9 feet tall and a 500 lbs of muscle to have a chance with Dos Santos
by terzergoss on Jan 23, 2012 12:50 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
Coming from a guy who tried to feed a carrot to a bus (or pet it, not sure which one he was)
I’ll take this with a liberal helping of salt.
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oh and on a serious note
Nog is acknowledging that Reem has gotten much bigger since the PRIDE days, but no matter how big he gets, he won’t be big enough to beat JDS. He’s not being literal here. The “not big enough” part is being taken a bit out of context here.
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Actually that's unfair of me
The man is a green belt in karate after all . . .
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Isn't that something?
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by Sweet Scientist on Jan 23, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Just going to echo what others have said. It seemed to me like Nog was saying “not big enough” like he was talking about his heart, character, all around skill…something of that nature.
Or he was just saying that JDS needs to go to Japan and fight Godzilla. That’s a possibility.
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According to whatever this says…
Reem visited the Blackzillians, is that good enough?
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by Zachary Kater on Jan 23, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
shogun cracked that chin twice...
What makes anyone think overeem can take that from JDS?
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by Sonnenmeister on Jan 23, 2012 1:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Simple bio-physics.
Look at the size of Overeems neck and trap muscles back then. Then take a look at how they look now. Someone’s chin is actually dependent upon (among other things) the strength of the neck muscles to keep the head from snapping around. Overeem’s chin is better now a days because he has a metric asston of more muscle to control his head with.
Absolutely, otherwise JDS wouldn't be in the position he finds himself in today
I think, though, that Overeem has put on enough muscle since his Pride days that the kind of knock outs he was susceptible to then, are greatly diminished today, even vs JDS. Not that its impossible to knock him out, but he’d have to make a few mistakes simultaneously for it to happen.
The current Ubereem, with all his new muscles, still got stung badly in K-1 with much thicker gloves. And those muscles help mainly with shots to the chin. A nicely placed blow to the temple or back of the ear can be equally damaging and no amount of muscle helps with those blows.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.
by memitim on Jan 23, 2012 3:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
With all the people so clearly biased and in favour of JDS
How can Overreem lose.
I believe Mr. Lesnar could help answer that question.
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Hey guys. The two best heavyweight strikers on the planet are going to fight for the heavyweight title. Holy shit.
Still doesn’t give me the chills like Nick Diaz vs. Carlos Condit, but it’s almost there.
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by mountaineers101 on Jan 23, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, unfortunately.
I would love to see more of Diaz, training and engaging with his training partners though. The interview with the teacher was completely senseless.
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The only thing Overeem is not big enough for
Is a submission wrestling match with a Tyrannosaur.
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eh too small
kinda of scrawny
No. Still too small
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by DayGeaux on Jan 23, 2012 1:54 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
lacks the size to take JDS out of his gameplan
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Bust his chops! Oh, that hurts my parts!
Don't really have the tools to force JDS to fight their kind of fight
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From reading the interview in portuguese
What Nog seems to be saying is that Overeem didn’t “grow” enough, as in personal development. He means that he didn’t grow enough as a fighter as to threaten Junior.
I don't see JDS taking this
The reem will do what he always does, close the distance absorb the first few shots with his hands up and then counter at the right moment. His patience experience and versatility will be too much to handle. The reem is a stylistic nightmare for JDS
the dogs bark but the caravan moves on
He won't be absorbing shit with his hands.
He will be absorbing JDS uppercuts with his chin. If anything, Junior is a stylistic nightmare for the ream. He’s faster, more accurate, throws combinations and is a better distance fighter.
watch the reem fights
against Saki and Ben Edwards, sorry I love JDS but this one is all about the reem, he will block and then throw kicks, knees hooks and straight punches. The reem hits hard and Junior will fall, the reem is not the same fighter that he was at 2005
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by couch-fighter on Jan 23, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
This isn't kickboxing
He can’t turtle up like that with 4 oz gloves. What his recent MMA fights where he keeps his kickboxing style guard. Even mediocre strikers like Werdum are able to consistently find his chin. The difference with JDS, when he finds Alistairs chin, he will lend multiple accurate and devastatingly powerful shots.
This again?
I watched that fight and saw Overeem completely disrespecting Werdums striking and waiting for the eventually takedown attempt, which he blocked no problem.
On another note, reem threw like 3 standing punches in the Brock fight. And I’m wondering how his hands are looking these days. When’s this fucking fight happening????
Overeem wasn't disrespecting Werdum's striking
He was tired. When Overeem gets tired he lets guy mount offense on him (that’s how he lost to Werdum the first time).
by discoandherpes on Jan 24, 2012 5:39 AM EST up reply actions
I give Cigano good chances
He has to outdance Overeem and avoid the clinches. If he can do that, he’ll win. If this were K1, I would give him zero chances, because with the big gloves Overeem would be good covered and take him apart with countershots and kicks. But in MMA there is a good chance he connects even though Overeem covers up. I see this as 60-40 for Overeem, don’t think he’ll make a boxing match with JDS and I don’t think JDS will be able to avoid the clinch.
Okay
Now I’m starting to believe Big Nog did try to feed that bus a carrot.
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by TorQus on Jan 23, 2012 6:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think Nog’s point here is that Overeem’s size will not be a factor. He’s saying that Overeem’s gotten bigger, but he’s not big enough to beat JDS. Sadly, you missed this point, and even more sadly, others followed. Tsk, tsk.
by FarmerInTheCity on Jan 23, 2012 10:32 PM EST reply actions
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