Forget Floyd Mayweather: Manny Pacquiao To Rematch Miguel Cotto In June
by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 21, 2012 9:35 AM EST
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Posturing, nonsense and the same old problems in boxing. Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao have been going back and forth in an intense PR war over the past month. Floyd got his jail date pushed back so he could fight on May 5 and said he wanted Pacquiao, Bob Arum said Manny would be ready in May, but then changed it to June because of a cut suffered in November. Then Manny said he wanted to fight Floyd more than anyone else, so Arum said he didn't know who to call to discuss the fight. Then Floyd decided to say that there'd be no 50/50 purse split, effectively killing any chance of the fight.
Now word has come out that Manny will rematch Miguel Cotto with Cotto already having agreed to almost all terms for the bout.
Scott Christ of Bad Left Hook with some reaction:
The fight is already receiving backlash from many in the boxing community and the fanbase who feel that no matter what, Cotto simply isn't a tough style matchup for Pacquiao. The two went pretty even for the first four rounds of their November 2009 bout, but in the end Pacquiao simply wound up the much better man, and by the time Kenny Bayless mercy-stopped it in the 12th round, Cotto was refusing to engage Pacquiao.
It was unrealistic to think that he and Floyd were ever going to meet in May, but this is still not exactly a thrilling development.
It's not so much that Cotto/Pacquiao is a horrible fight, it's not really. It's just that it already happened once and pretty much anything was going to be a letdown with the constant "will they/won't they?"
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What an insult to boxing fans this is, Arum wants $60 to see Pacquiao fight a man he brutalised years ago. The Pacquiao mystique has well and truly evaporated. Wonder if Pacquiao will pull his favourite stunt and force Cotto to make some ridiculous catchweight again?
Boxing promoters have abused the fanbase for far too long, heres to MMA, a sport where the best guys actually fight each other.
I really thought that after Floyd reached out to manny personally
that they would make the fight happen.
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Well, if the e-mails are real, Floyd reaching out involved saying that he wouldn’t give him a 50/50 split. so…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 21, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
I meant when he called him on the phone in the Philippines
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Yeah, he sent an e-mail to ESPN with the details of the call and supposedly Manny asked for 50/50 and Floyd said “yeah, that can’t happen”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 21, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
oh, didn’t hear about that… well damn. did he say what kind of split he wanted?
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Why don’t boxing fans just boycott that fight. It is an insult. A fight nobody wants to see.
by Ilias on Jan 21, 2012 9:57 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Because people do want to see it…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 21, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Can I ask why?
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Because everybody wants to watch Pacquiao and boxing is probably the 2nd biggest sport for the Puerto Rican / Hispanic community. Even if the fight is a farce.
they will watch with hopes he wins
but deep inside know he wont
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The press will try to sell that Cotto will run through Manny this time around
And people will buy into that bullshit
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this accurately sums up my feelings regarding this fight
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by The Lethal Haze on Jan 21, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Well, Cotto isn’t a bad fighter. Also, these two men have two of the biggest fanbases in the sport.
Cotto just got a very highly publicized win in a grudge match. A lot of people always want to see Manny fight.
This is actually a huge money fight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 21, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
i dont feel Cotto has improved enough to give manny a real challange
And to top it off, their last fight was dominated by Manny. Like you said, in the later rounds Cotto refused to engage. That’s how over matched he was.
by Ricardo Arguello on Jan 21, 2012 10:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t really follow boxing closely but I would have thought that Manny would want to fight Marquez again and put that right. As P4P best he should not be happy with a controversial decision win that most people think he lost!
Thats just my opinion. I know money is important but they should really find a better balance by also giving the fans what they want to see.
by Ilias on Jan 21, 2012 10:32 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Marquez killed that fight. He won’t fight in Vegas (where the fight is worth the most money) and is demanding like 7-10 million to take the fight. So…he killed that idea.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 21, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
It better be huge money
If it isn’t, then Floyd will say “I told you so” and be even more intransigent about the split next time.
by paythefighters on Jan 21, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I wanna see the fight because I like watching Manny fight. This fight isn’t terrible and if manny comes in the same way he did against marquez last time it could be close.
But on the other hand I only really want manny to fight mayweather, which seems like it’ll never happen. I don’t see why mayweather won’t do a 50/50 split for the biggest fight in the world right now. That’s incredibly greedy.
by Ricardo Arguello on Jan 21, 2012 10:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed. Mayweather refusing a 50/50 split is really his way of saying he doesn’t want the fight. Pacquiao taking on Cotto again though isn’t good. No doubt Pacquiao will get away with it because he’s a nice guy and all that, but can you imagine the uproar if Mayweather tried to get away with taking on a guy he stopped convincingly 2 or 3 years ago?
Bs
This is the biggest fight payday in boxing history, and floyd is the bigger draw. You dont reach out personally and try to make a fight, that you dont want. That notion is incredibly ridiculous. Manny’s handlers dont want the fight, bc they think theres a good chance he will lose.
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by warren305 on Jan 21, 2012 11:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
How is Floyd the bigger draw in a fight with Pac Man?
That’s crazy talk.
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by Rob Young on Jan 21, 2012 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Here is a post from a member in BLH
Strange I thought Floyd was WAY above Manny in PPV numbers…
In order of buyrate for their last few fights:
Floyd Mayweather vs.Oscar De La Hoya -2,400,000 1,450,000
-Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez
-Floyd Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley-1,400,000
-Manny Pacquiao vs. Shane Mosley-1,300,000
-Manny Pacquiao vs. Oscar De La Hoya-1,250,000
-Manny Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto-1,250,000
-Floyd Mayweather vs. Victor Ortiz-1,250,000
-Manny Pacquiao vs. Antonio Margarito-1,150,000
-Floyd Mayweather vs. Juan Manuel Márquez-1,050,000
-Floyd Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton-920,000
-Ricky Hatton vs. Manny Pacquiao-850,000
So there is one outlier when DLH was still considered a viable threat and huge PPV buy. Aside from that, where is the justification that Floyd is a bigger drawl?
Floyd’s average buyrate is 1.404m including the DLH fight (a total of 5 fights)
Manny’s is 1.208m (a total of 6 fights).
Against common opponents:
Floyd: 1.4425m
Manny: 1.2125
Those numbers are dead even without DLH in the mix.
Manny: 1.2m
Floyd: 1.123m
If you remove the fights against non-common opponents, and remove the one PPV marquee name that they both faced equally, they sell virtually the exact same amount of PPV.
by younggunzvt on Jan 20, 2012 2:51 PM PST reply actions
but my question is, will you keep going around saying Floyd is the bigger draw?
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by The Lethal Haze on Jan 22, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Bc hes the bigger draw
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by warren305 on Jan 21, 2012 11:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I never thought I would see the day
But I would rather watch guys get wrestlefucked in the UFC than watch some of the best boxers in the world go at it.
thats an incredibly dumb thing to say
by Ricardo Arguello on Jan 21, 2012 10:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's not that dumb
Once you get used to MMA, boxing just isn’t real anymore. You watch and realize that everything they are doing is due to the rules protecting them from what would really happen in a confrontation.
Breakaways and the game ending shootout are the most thrilling parts of ice hockey, but who wants to see only penalty shots instead of a game? Home runs are the most exciting (and I use that term extremely loosely) part of baseball, but who would rather watch a HR derby over an actual game? Dunks and three pointers are pretty much the most exciting part of basketball, but who would want to watch dunk and 3pt contests over an actual game?
We love standup when it happens in MMA, but watching it in boxing is just doesn’t have the same meaning. I don’t really agree with twostate, as wrestlefucking is clearly quite awful in the worst cases, but MMA has taken the magic out of boxing.
by paythefighters on Jan 21, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
No it hasn’t. Mayweather vs Pacquiao will do PPV numbers absolutely no fight in MMA could come near.
That has nothing to do with my point. Of course it will.
I’m saying that for some people, boxing just doesn’t feel real next to MMA, so twostate’s comment isn’t as ridiculous as it seems. I don’t agree with him, but all else being equal, I’d rather watch a fight naturally evolve into a mix of grappling and standup than two guys that A) are forced to standup; B) have big gloves that can be used for defense; C) can’t use kicks or knees; and D) have refs instantly break apart clinches.
by paythefighters on Jan 21, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Same thing happens when a wrestler shoots for a takedown and the other guy sprawls and has an opportunity to knee the wrestler in the head.
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by Rob Young on Jan 21, 2012 2:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How is MMA real?
This is what real fights look like if they happen in a cage.
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by pdl on Jan 21, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
????
This may be a what a real battle royale would look like, but a fight between two opponents? MMA is as “real” as it gets in sports.
by Charlie Custer on Jan 21, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
His quote RE boxing:
You watch and realize that everything they are doing is due to the rules protecting them from what would really happen in a confrontation.
In a real confrontation the dude might pull your shirt over your head or hit you with a glass or a chair. Or smash your head into a table. People will bite and jam their fingers in your eyes and punch your windpipe. Assuming they don’t just hammer you in the balls or spine. All of which ignores that they probably have buddies around and if you are on the ground then somebody else is going to be kicking and stomping you if we’re talking what would ‘really happen in a confrontation.’
The talking point that MMA is like a real fight is stupid and inaccurate. It’s a sport and it has tons of rules which define it just like tennis or football or boxing or badminton.
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Very true
While MMA may be the closest representation of actual conflict, there are too many variables to say it’s like fighting outside of a sanctioned body.
Quite honestly, I don’t want to see a sport represent an actual conflict that is closer to MMA with the exception of legalizing knees and downward elbows on the ground. I just don’t see “Running Man” succeeding anytime too soon.
Sprinters are the most realistic combat sports athletes.
Somebody shoots a gun and they run like a motherfucker away from that guy.
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by pdl on Jan 21, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My comment isn’t about which sport is actually better to watch. I actually box so it is my first love, but I just hate how boxing has turned out. Maybe I put too much emotion into it because at the end of the day it is just a sport, but it has just become a farce and with every "mega’ fight that is supposed to bring boxing back to its heyday, it gets worse and worse.
Sure there are still great fights in boxing, and there are plenty of shitty fights in MMA but any fight that needs to happen ranking wise or because the fans demand it (save for fedor and that mess) basically happens. The top guys always fight the top guys and If the fans were crying out every day to see Jon Jones vs Anderson, I could almost guarantee that fight would probably get made.
Brent is correct when he says boxing is run so much differently and that Dana would be more like Bob Arum given the chance, but the fact that there is only 1 fight in the world people really want to see, and the fact that this would be the highest grossing fight in history, it is just ludicrous that it is not happening. Boxing has become the biggest joke in sports and although people will still watch it in the millions, as will I on occasion, it really is watching a car wreck happen in slow motion.
And people complain about the way Dana runs things?
Dana fucking puts on the fights people want to see BECAUSE he doesn’t have to deal with greedy prima donnas like Floyd.
Not really a fair comparison. He puts on the fights people want to see because the whole structure is different for the sport.
if he were a boxing promoter he’d operate exactly like everyone else.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 21, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
That's my point, though....
It’s because of the UFC structure that we get the fights that we do. Boxing is what it is, but it should be a cautionary tale to the idiots who obsess over Zuffa’s Evil Empire and claim it’s wrong for the sport.
Oh…sure.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 21, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
I’m just throwing this out there. but Cotto is pretty clearly going to knock out Manny. Not because he’s better, but because they dicked around with the Floyd fight too long.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 21, 2012 10:39 AM EST reply actions
Cotto isn’t a one punch KO guy, and he isn’t quick enough to hit Pacquiao enough to knock him out. I reckon a strong card by the UFC headlined by a fight like Overeem vs Dos Santos could compete with this head to head.
What I think people are missing is that Cotto/Pacquiao is still a big fight that is going to do an all time great gate in Vegas and do a shitload of PPV buys.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 21, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
... if karma was real
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by The Lethal Haze on Jan 21, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Cotto is the perfect style match up for Pac
Is and will always be.
No if’s or buts.
Pac destroys Cotto even at 154.
by Mohammedini Hussein on Jan 22, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
I'm washing my hands away from this.
Get your fucking shit together boxing.
by Maclovio Williams on Jan 21, 2012 10:47 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
I wish a piece of the chair smacked him silly that would have been so much better
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by RECE ROCK on Jan 21, 2012 11:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
They'll never have this fight because it'll kill off at least one of the two major ppv draws left in boxing.
Better to just keep dragging it out forever.
I REALLY hope this tanks on PPV
Sadly Pacquiao and Mayweather fans will buy a million buys for each and this crap will continue. For the good of the sport both of these need to get below 500K buys so they realize that they need each other.
It's going to be higher than the first three UFC PPV buyrates combined
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by SSreporters on Jan 21, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not really a huge boxing fan so
could someone explain to me why Mayweather wouldn’t take a 50/50 split? Is he being greedy or is he just a bigger draw than Pacquiao?
while that may be true
if you promise Mayweather 10m, 20m, or 300m, why the hell should he care what his opposition receives? That seems like dense mentality. Obviously ego plays a big part, but one would think that monetary concerns come first and foremost.
could someone explain to me why Mayweather wouldn’t take a 50/50 split?
I would be more than happy to.
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 21, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope manny NEVER fights floyd. It will ruin the tension. Remember how disappointing it was when Mulder kissed Scully in the x-files movie? Or when dr Temperance ‘bones’ Brennan hooked up with agent Booth, in the hit tv show, ‘Bones’, or when Dawson and joey smooched in the season one cliffhanger of ’Dawson’s creek?
Ooh the suspense. Be still my beating heart.
Fucking get on with it.
ever see that show moonlighting?
bruce willis and cybill shepherd hooking up ruined the whole series and the ratings plunged
This isn't highschool, it's fighting.
But yeah, long term one of these guys will see a ratings drop AFTER the fight itself.
Who will promote the fight once it happens? if it does.
Floyd wants a bigger cut, does he promote himself or does he have a promoter such as Arum?
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Manny already beat the shit out of Cotto the first time
I have no idea why Cotto needs another rematch. Manny beat him legally.
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Does anyone actually think this fight will happen?
It became a joke to me long ago but for those of you grasping on to each post on here you see that may hint at a possible date and all that need to give it up lol. The only time they will finally fight is when they are both past their prime and just want to make a big payday before they both are washed up.
It make no sense for Mayweather or Pacquiao to take the fight
And it probably won’t happen for a while.
by discoandherpes on Jan 21, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
That's it, I'm done.
I’ve ordered almost every major boxing PPV in the last couple years including Pac vs Clottey, PBF vs Marquez, Cotto/Marg 2 and all the other big ones (even bought a ticket to see Hopkins/Dawson live) but enough is enough. Only PBF PPV I will pay to see is if he fights Canelo and I’m done with Manny.
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by Rob Young on Jan 21, 2012 2:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This ppv will fail
If enough people refuse to buy it. I for one will find something else to do that evening…I see NO need to watch them fight a second time.
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by SmittytheCutman on Jan 21, 2012 2:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
A rematch no one wants to see
At least Pacquiao could have chosen someone that he hasn’t fought already. This is ridiculous.
This is like
Anderson Silva rematching Demian Maia. There’s no reason this fight should ever happen again.
Ive said it before and il say it again
Boxing needs their own UFC in order to survive beyond the next 20 years. because right now when Pacman and Mayweather retire, there will be no one left. not only that, but many of the athletes who used to go into boxing will be going into MMA now, further depleating Boxing’s fighters.
unfortunatly, because of the selfishness in boxing that has built up for decades, its not going to happen.
Boxing is dead, LONG LIVE BOXING
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 21, 2012 3:40 PM EST reply actions
Once De La Hoya retires, there will never be a decent draw in boxing again.
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De La Hoya is retired.
Ahoy-hoy.
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by Sugel Mendoza on Jan 21, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
*whistle*
Put your baseball glove on because that one went right over your head.
by Scott Whitaker on Jan 21, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
+1
woah time to leave your bridge and read the newpaper, Oscar is retired,
Dont act like your shit dont stink
pdl's point
is that people were saying, while ODLH was still active, that once ODLH retired there would never be a decent draw in boxing again.
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by The Lethal Haze on Jan 22, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Floyd doesn't deserve another payday
Floyd is such a diva/prima donna who’s arrogance knows no bounds does not even deserve another huge payday. Money was never able to sell out an arena in his own home state of Michigan for his entire career. (Didn’t help that he was a safety first counter puncher) It wasn’t untill he fought Oscar did he start getn noticed by the general media n public. Where as Pacquaio is always going for a kO win. Takn on bigger opponents as he went up multiple weight divisions. Fraud can’t draw without the right opponent. Him askn for more than 50% is laughable.
by Hankverdee on Jan 21, 2012 4:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Mayweather and Pacquiao share a few opponents.
Mayweather drew nearly double the PPV buys against De La Hoya that Pacquiao did and still holds the record for PPV sales.
Mayweather drew greater numbers against Shane Mosley than Pacquiao did by about 100k.
Pacquiao drew better numbers against Marquez with the benefit of being the final match of a trilogy.
I don’t get why people try to fabricate ridiculous untruths to demean and hate on Mayweather. Between the racism and violence against women and children he’s already given you a wealth of legitimate material.
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This is FANTASTIC news!
This now frees up Floyd to pursue that MMA title he said he would easily win.
What a joke...
Pacman is running, Arum is right behind him and Cotto will get destroyed… AGAIN.
Im convinced this superfight will never happen, JMM showed Mayweather all he needed to know to smash Pacman and Arum knows he has to milk this cash cow for all its worth because one defeat and the “Milks gone bad my friend!!!”.
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by Chin Check on Jan 21, 2012 11:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
then why did Floyd make a demand for a split that he knew would never be agreed to?
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by The Lethal Haze on Jan 22, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Considering we dont even know what split he asked for other then refusing a 50/50.
Id say you were purely speculating as to whether or not he “knew” it would never be agreed upon, Bob Arum is ducking this fight so bad even his own fighter has called him out on it and even that adorable picture you posted wont change the fact that Top Rank DO NOT want this fight to happen.
I wonder why?! lol….
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And dont get me started on the avalanche of lame excuses coming out of Top Rank for why Manny cant fight Money.
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Neither guy really wants this fight in my opinion.
Floyd is popular because no one likes him and wants to see him beat. Pacquiao is popular because people think he can beat up Mayweather.
That’s why we get Floyd posturing and Pacquiao coming up with lame sauce excuses.
by discoandherpes on Jan 22, 2012 3:08 AM EST up reply actions
i think mayweather was actually somewhat wanted it
but arum the greedy pig wants to hold out for a bigger arena or something ,while he hopes for mayweathers skills to decline in the short time he has in the slammer clenching his bumhole
Dont act like your shit dont stink
That "arena" Excuse have been debunked by almost every boxing site out there
Same with that retarded cut excuse.
Freddie Roach saying in interviews that the cut is already healed then flip flopping on tv saying it needs 6 months to heal…….
Manny’s small cut has to be the longest cut recovery in boxing history…
But when Floyd was supposed to go to jail, the may 5th date sounded perfect for the 4th JMM fight according to Arum.
All I can say is Fuck Arum
by Mohammedini Hussein on Jan 22, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Manny has always had lame sauce excuses
Remember when he was saying he doesn’t like needles?
by discoandherpes on Jan 22, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
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