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UFC on FX 1 Post-Fight Quick Hits

The first FX card, all in all was great. I like Anik and Florian as an alternative to Rogan and Goldberg...both 'teams' bring a specific flavor. Rogan and Goldberg are better suited for the 'Holy sh!t this is a HUGE deal' type of relevant fights....their commentary oozes with excitement and really sets the stage for an 'event'. Anik and Florian are a bit more subdued and I think they play to the ears of the casual audiances a bit better.

The FX portion of the card was solid. We had a back and forth fight that ended with a great knockout to kick things off, a war between some little guys, and a couple of slick come-from-behind submission victories. I have to imagine that any new fans that tuned into the card are going to be coming back for more.

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Nick Denis is a badass...those elbows were awesome

Brenneman did his thing and won...no shock

Nurmagomedov winning was awesome...I noticed that NOBODY on BE picked him. Sure, it was a step up and his debut...but it seemed like people were forgetting that Shalorus hadn't fought since March and Khabib had fought like 5-6 times SINCE March. Whatever...17-0 at 23 is pretty impressive and I'm very interested in seeing him develope. According to FightMatrix he is tied as being the most undefeated fighter currently in MMA. My only question is can we officially decide whether it's "Habib" or "Khabib"?

Rivera winning was also awesome. I love seeing guys retire with wins. Lytle did it and seeing Rivera do the same thing is just outstanding.

PAT BARRY!!!! Damn, that fight was awesome. Barry was put in so much trouble grappling wise and I was sure...and I bet many others were 'sure' that as soon as it hit the ground he'd be screwed...but he survived and escaped his way back to his feet and then knocked Morecraft out. All of that happening within 4 minutes was an extremely awesome way to start off the FX broadcast.

Easton and Papazian went to war...there is no real loser in that fight, to be honest.

It sucked to see Ludwig lose, I hope he can rebound and string a few more wins together. Slick job by Neer and he is on a nice little streak himself.

I said it before. Guillard was just too risky of a bet to pick for me. 8 of 9 losses by sub, 7 of those in the first...at least coming into this fight...The guy clearly has some holes in his game.

I just don't know where to start. Maybe drilling hardcore BJJ with an elite guy should be more of the focus than never being taken down or being completely defensive grappling wise. But even if 'Never get taken down' is the gameplan...then he shouldn't throw so many damn flying knees...

You see this everywhere with Guillard. He is a guy who doesn't really have a great chin, or he doesn't respond well to a good punch, however you want to say it....yet he dodges in and out with his hands down...you are only going to get away with that so long before someone times it right(like Joe Lauzon) and makes you pay.

Jim Miller is a tough dude...he took some serious shots from Guillard, survived, kept his composure, and came back to win...all in 2 minutes. Outstanding performance by Miller.

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Good takes, Chris

Once Anik calms down, especially in the post-fight interviews with winners, he’s going to be great. I really don’t think Florian adds much, and as others have pointed out, it was tough to tell who was talking at times. That wasn’t only because they sounded alike but also because Florian didn’t really seem to add a lot of insight to make his contributions noticeably different from Anik’s.

Only other thing I’d mention is that no matter how much people crack on Helwani I still think the guy does the best interviews in MMA. In his own way he’s every bit as polished as Anik.

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by ( . Y . ) on Jan 21, 2012 4:04 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed on K-Flo

I thought Anik was very solid and a refreshing reprieve from being yelled at by Goldy. Can’t agree more about Kenny. He is just terrible…. nothing interesting to add, not particularly dramatic when he should be, and doesn’t have a powerful enough voice/cadence to stand out as a color commentator should. I’m actually a fan of Rogan’s commentary and would like to see how an Anik-Rogan show would turn out.

Also agree about Helwani. He has grown on me and I think he’s on camera presence has gone from weasel-like to semi-polished.

by MMA_Nole on Jan 21, 2012 7:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Kamal looks like a badger and shoud stick to what badgers do, because he sucks at MMA.

Khabib – it’s silent “k”, so you spell it Khabib, but pronounce “Habib”. Just like silent “h” in French, for example: spelled “hokey”, pronounced “okey”.

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by dancingChicken on Jan 21, 2012 6:57 AM EST reply actions  

From the little Russian I know

The h/kh mystery must stem from his name being spelled Хабиб, where a=a, б=b and и=ee/i. The Х is pronounced close to an H but with a hint of an R in there, ie. Hrabib, but when Cyrillic is translated it’s often spelled Kh.

Another example is Mikhail Gorbachev, his first name is spelled Михаил, where M=M, и=ee/i, a=a and л=L and once again with x translating into that hr-ish sound, ie. Mi-hra-il. Sound sample here.

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by wonderfulspam on Jan 21, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Guillard pisses me off

Clearly the guy has the striking thing down. He’s dynamic, powerful and creative.

What he needs to do is drill BJJ day after day after day with a serious black belt. I understand the thinking “if I don’t get taken down, they can’t sub me” but clearly that isn’t working for him.

He needs to focus on one thing, and one thing only…submission defense.

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by Fedorable on Jan 21, 2012 9:10 AM EST reply actions  

Guilllard has a great fighter in him

But he’s held back by the little things. He needs to take small steps. He blends his footwork and boxing brilliantly, but he should focus on keeping his hands up. Find some great muay thai fighters and learn some more vicious kicks and knees, not these ill advised flying knees. He certainly has the potential with his abilities, and he’s clearly the hardest hitting lightweight there is.

Here are my issues with how he fought last night:

-He should have swarmed Miller when he was hurt, that was the worst time to employ his newfound composure
-Guillard has to recognize the mistakes he makes on the ground. He’s too anxious to get up and he’s scared he’ll get submitted. That actually leads him to getting submitted more often because he tries to explode to a better position rather than calmly regaining position.
-He should take up yoga, or meditating, or something. He has gained some composure in his fights, but along with that he needs some focus. He has to take a little time to think when he’s in there. He should also see a sport psychologist to help him with the other mental blocks.
-He should commit himself to jiu jitsu training. Not only sub defense, but he has to learn to make better transitions and prevent his opponents from making them. Maybe he can even pick up a few subs for himself.

Ultimately it’s all on him. I hope for his sake he can turn it all around before he starts to just fade away. 2012 can still be a good year for him, but he has to get his head into it. I don’t know who else he trains with when he’s with the Blackzillians, but I don’t think that camp is the correct fit for him. He needs to go with a reputable jiu jitsu camp and get to work.

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by halitosis on Jan 21, 2012 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

Khabib isnt very impressive

Lets look at his opponent history.

(chronological order)
-Debut for both fighters. [Opponent now 1-4]
-Debut for opponent. [Now at 2-2]
-1-0. [Now 2-1]
-2-0. [Now 4-2]
-Debut. [Hasnt fought since]
-1-0. [Now 3-1]
-2-0. [Now 9-1]
-2-0. [Now 7-1]
-4-2. [Now 7-9]
-3-0. [Now 4-2]
-12-9. [Hasnt fought since]
-0-2. [Hasnt fought since]
-1-1. [Now 1-4]
-3-3. [hasnt fought since]
-debut. [Hasnt fought since]
-28-22. [Now 28-25]

As you can see Khabib has been preying on very weak competition. Obviously he’s undefeated but in just about every case he’s fought guys that had a handful of fights, with exception to two fighters. Two fights ago, while Khabib making his 7 fight 2011 run, he was15-0 and fought a guy who was making his debut.

Plus his 2011 run wasn’t slightly close to being considered tough. He’d picked on some very weak competition.

by Ricardo Arguello on Jan 21, 2012 12:31 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I agree that Khabib has fought weak competition

But Kamal is not weak at all, and Khabib won that fight handily. I was impressed.

by MichaelDavidSmith on Jan 21, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

true

I was speaking about his competition before Kamal. And even in last nights fight, Khabib didnt look all too well until the one punch that put Kamal on queer street.

Lets see how Khabib does in his next fight against better competition. I see him losing, and losing bad

by Ricardo Arguello on Jan 21, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying he fought killers in Russia

But to go 16-0 against any level of competition…the odds aren’t exactly in your favor…not when any split second mistake can lead to defeat.

He’s clearly talented…and for 23 years old….I’m not hating on him for fighting other young/inexperienced guys. I mean, you’ve got to get yourself sharp somewhere. The developmental period of an MMA fighter’s career is really the most important.

Even after a long career, when Overeem moved up to heavyweight, he essentially hit the restart button on his career and started off with lower level competition to get himself sharp and hone his skills while he was packing on weight…and now he is without a doubt one of the best heavyweights on the planet.

And like others have said, Shalorus was no joke…I certainly wouldn’t say he was the easiest fight they could have given a 23 year old making his debut.

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by Chris Groves on Jan 21, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah to be honest when they first made that fight I didn't like it

Because I thought Kamal would be too strong and savvy for a 23-year-old making his North American debut. Shows Joe Silva knows more than I do.

by MichaelDavidSmith on Jan 21, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep...also, I think part of it

Is that sometimes when they bring in these guys that have a bit of clout…such as someone who is 16-0….they want to really test them to see where they are at in their first fight. Then if they pass the test, they bring them along at a more steady pace.

Jones got a vet like Bonnar early off and then was given guys like O’Brien, Hamill, Vera, and Matyushenko.

Gustafsson was matched up with another hot prospect in Davis and lost…but since then he’s been getting incremental steps up.

I think it’s likely that Khabib gets more of a lateral move than a marked step up in his next fight.

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by Chris Groves on Jan 21, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I picked Khabib :(

Then changed it :(

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by SSreporters on Jan 21, 2012 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

they can be a deceptive bunch.

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by Chris Groves on Jan 21, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

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