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Forget about Aldo moving up in weight, that's not going to happen

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Prior to UFC 142 in Rio, Aldo appeared to be fine with the idea of moving up in weight while talking to Terra Esportes:

It’s been a while that I’ve been saying that I should move up (in weight), to test myself in the above division. But Dedé (Pederneiras) is the one who decides that. When they think it’s the right moment I’ll move up.

But his trainer didn’t seem like he’d concede to that idea:

We don’t think about changing divisions, the focus is all directed to Chad Mendes (right now). When this fight is over, we’ll start thinking about the next (fight). To be honest, I don’t see him moving up in weight, no.

Well, the fight is over and Dede doesn’t seem to have changed his mind:

He’s not going to be moving up in weight for now, unless if it’s for the title, then it’s okay. But to give up his title and to fight his way in the division above his? Forget it. If it’s up to me that’s not going to happen. Unless he goes train somewhere else and someone allows him to do that, I’m not going to allow him to do that.

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When’s the last time Aldo faced someone that was bigger than him at 145? His last three opponents were all much smaller than him.

by Shnak on Jan 16, 2012 8:07 AM EST reply actions  

Florian, his LAST opponent. and brown.

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by JaeeJaee on Jan 16, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

last before mendes

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by JaeeJaee on Jan 16, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point, forgot about Florian. Then again, he all skin and bones, and definitely not as strong as Aldo.

I suppose my point was that Mendes looked noticeably smaller than Aldo. Mendes looked like a 135’er in there against Aldo.

by Shnak on Jan 16, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Really?

I didn’t think Mendes looked that much smaller.

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by Triangled on Jan 16, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I did.

It was surprising considering Mendes usually dwarfs his opponents.

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by halitosis on Jan 16, 2012 10:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Mendes looked shorter (which he is), looked to have shorter arms (which he does), and looked way softer than Aldo. Mendes looks like he could cut 10 pounds relatively easily. Aldo can barely survive a cut to 145.

by Shnak on Jan 16, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Makes sense, if it's not for the title then why bother?

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by menckenstein on Jan 16, 2012 8:22 AM EST reply actions  

Silva tested the waters at LHW with Irvin and Forrest

without relinquishing his MW title. I’m sure the UFC would be happy to let Aldo do the same thing, against a high-profile, mid- to upper-tier LW.

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by Dave Strummer on Jan 16, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought Anderson did that because they didn't have a proper challenger lined up at MW

Sounds like Dede is addressing a permanent move up into LW.

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by menckenstein on Jan 16, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

A fight with a name guy in 155

could definetely raise his profile.

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by Triangled on Jan 16, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

actually

the UFC gave an ultimatum to Silva to either stay at MW or go full time to LHW, Silva chose to stay at MW that’s why he’s no longer fighting people at LHW.

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by Orcus on Jan 16, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought he stayed away from MW out of deference to Machida

either way, don’t you think they’d let Aldo take a couple fights at 155 before deciding?

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by Dave Strummer on Jan 16, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

he did

he felt he had too many friends/training partners in that division to make a run for the title, so he decided to stay at MW. I’m not sure they’d allow Aldo to do the same thing Silva did though, the only reason Silva went up was by request of the UFC, the first to counter Affliction when he fought Irvin and the second was the UFC trying to punish Silva for the Leites fight.

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by Orcus on Jan 16, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

thats a really weird punishment

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by The Lethal Haze on Jan 16, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it backfired on them, I think they really thought Silva was going to get beat or put on some bigger efforts during that fight haha

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by Orcus on Jan 16, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you know that it was a punishment? I thought that the UFC decided to put Anderson in there with Forest because it was a favorable stylistic match up for fireworks. They had two stars and it was pretty much a win win for the UFC. (Mainly because if Anderson lost, he could chalk it up to weight difference).

by castleeb on Jan 16, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

jeez man, can’t a guy have an opinion nowadays? Dana made the move after the Leites fight, said something in the lines of “let’s try to see him try to pull that shit with Forrest”. Dana was pissed at Silva, that much is a fact. I’m sure it wasn’t a reward… but sure, it was a win-win for the UFC, most fights are.

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by Orcus on Jan 17, 2012 3:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I think I'll agree

Forrest is the perfect opponent style wise for Silva to style on, and definitely has enough name recognition to up his star power after the public kind of turned on him.

by discoandherpes on Jan 17, 2012 4:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually I think your opinions are really valuable Orcus. To me you represent “the Brazilian View Point” haha. Sorry I came across sorta forceful there :p

by castleeb on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

not at all brother

I also nitpick people’s opinion’s every now and then, I am just tasting my own venom :p

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by Orcus on Jan 17, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

He should def stay at 145

And clean that out – he’s only fought 3 times since moving over from WEC. And there are a few interesting challengers around – Koch, Poirier, KZ

by taptomyarmbar on Jan 16, 2012 8:23 AM EST reply actions  

I agree, I think there is an interesting mix of guys for him to fight. Don’t forget the Bartimus/Hioki winner, Alcantara, Nunes (I know they are teammates, but I think they would fight for the title), and now Siver. There are a lot of potential challengers for Aldo at FW over the next 12-18 months.

by dpk875 on Jan 16, 2012 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Siver?

For River’s sake, I hope he never makes featherweight title contention.

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by halitosis on Jan 16, 2012 10:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

PHONE ARGGGG

*Siver

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by halitosis on Jan 16, 2012 10:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

long shot

but maybe somehow he confused siver and brandao?

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by Andy Anderson on Jan 16, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Brandão? Really?

I can’t see him doing anything with Aldo. It would be a very short night.

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by Triangled on Jan 17, 2012 7:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t find it necessary for Aldo to move up in weight. He has been having great success at Featherweight. The argument is that no fighter on the horizon at Featherweight can really challenge Aldo, and while I do agree with that, it’s just a product of a dominant champion. There are challengers like KZ, Koch, Poirier, Hioki, Nunes and others coming up like Brandao, Alcantara, and Pearson, so there’s no shortage of challengers for Aldo, but it’s just that no one views them as viable threats.

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by chrisbboy82 on Jan 16, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

He should go up to fight Frankie/Bendo, or whoever is holding the belt, for a superfight.

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by Snatchl on Jan 16, 2012 8:39 AM EST reply actions  

I'm good with this

A superfight with Edgar would be a total waste right now. You can’t have a superfight between nobodies.

by crazybones on Jan 16, 2012 8:51 AM EST reply actions  

Exactly

They need to build Also up before he moves up to challenge for the belt at 155. By that time I doubt Edgar is still champ.

by taptomyarmbar on Jan 16, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't get it?

Who ever said Aldo would leave 145 for 155 for anything other then the title. That’s always been the case and talked about. A title fight with Edger. No one was saying, " yeah Aldo should move to 155 and work his way up". Thats just stupid. If he moved up, he would get a title shot right away.

by Who is Ryoto on Jan 16, 2012 10:49 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

the mere fact that questions were raised to Aldo and Dede

means people are asking about him moving in weight, not particularly for a title fight only, otherwise quotes about it wouldn’t exist.

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by Orcus on Jan 16, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

instead of 155 why not jose vs dominick cruz as the super weight that would put both of those weights on notice for a minute i mean i know jose would win but still i like that better than him changing weights all together so quickly

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by Mac Marley on Jan 16, 2012 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

because the ufc knows that dominick is no value to them dead

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by mattsterguy on Jan 16, 2012 11:41 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

so then

he would be the most dominate fighter against Uriah Faber in history?

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by Andy Anderson on Jan 16, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Cruz won’t beat Faber again with proper judging…

by Shnak on Jan 17, 2012 7:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Faber can beat cruz most of the time

and the UFC is praying for a finisher or atleast likeable face for that division and Faber is both (Aldo’s soul crushing kicks and brown being huge aside) as far as Aldo is concerned casuals still don’t know his division exists, Rio was his coming out party for the casuals i think he sits pretty clearing out FW for atleast another year before he gets that superfight

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by Scurnt on Jan 17, 2012 1:12 AM EST reply actions  

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