Dan Miragliotta and the Johnson-Belfort Debacle
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Why do we even call this sport "mixed martial arts?" In theory, it's because anyone that steps into the cage will be allowed to use any kind of martial arts technique that they desire, whether they have formal training in that martial art or not.
Dan Miragliotta, however, clearly disagrees with this position.
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Why don’t you just post the rest here instead of shilling for your blog? If you have something to say, put it here on BE. Maybe at the end you can put, “If you want to read more of my thoughts on this and other topics, you can check out my blog.”
Sorry, not meaning to come off as harsh, but really, I wish fan posts were all self-contained instead of thinly disguised attempts to drive traffic elsewhere.
by ( . Y . ) on Jan 15, 2012 7:02 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
Read the rest here ...
No. Fuck your blog.
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by IKiIIed007 on Jan 15, 2012 7:14 PM EST reply actions 13 recs
don’t want to be this guy. I hate to be this guy. But right now, I have to be this guy.
Why do we even call this sport “mixed martial arts?” In theory, it’s because anyone that steps into the cage will be allowed to use any kind of martial arts technique that they desire, whether they have formal training in that martial art or not.
Dan Miragliotta, however, clearly disagrees with this position. Don’t get me wrong; MMA is full of incompetent referees that make bizarre and infuriating decisions. None of them have the distinction of reffing fights like they have money on a certain guy, though. Miragliotta does. The ghastly Kimbo Slice-James Thompson stoppage comes to mind, where Danno stopped the fight after Slice landed two hard punches that didn’t even put Thompson down (probably to make sure he hit his parlay); so does last night’s Vitor Belfort-Anthony Johnson debacle.
After coming in at a comical 197 lbs. for his UFC 142 co-headliner against Vitor Belfort, Anthony Johnson figured to have a limited gas tank. Sure enough, he came out sloppier than hell, immediately desperate for takedowns. It was quickly apparent that this was his lone chance to beat the precise hands of Vitor, and after an early takedown, he was able to land a dive bomb right hand through the guard.
Then, right as Vitor was going for mission control, Dan Miragliotta stood the fighters up. After stumbling around for another leg, Johnson was able to press Vitor against the cage, hopeful that he would earn another thunderous takedown. While Belfort was easily defending this effort, and landing some damaging punches to boot, Miragliotta broke up the clinch. Johnson became even sloppier, now understanding that he was going to be given absolutely no time to work on the ground or in the clinch. He used his freakish strength to secure another takedown, and just as he was getting into his rhythm on the floor Dan Miragliotta (I hope you’re sitting down) STOOD THEM UP AGAIN.
No longer than 2 minutes and several failed kamikaze takedown attempts later, Johnson was tapping the mat due to a rear naked choke. He was released from the UFC, and he should have been. His performance, coupled with his spectacular failure to make weight, were enough to warrant a release to me.
But you know what? That isn’t what I took away from the fight. The story of that fight was that Dan Miragliotta couldn’t make it through a piss at a urinal without preventing Anthony Johnson from attempting to do his job.
The fact that Johnson “would have lost anyway” might be true, but it misses the point entirely. It’s revisionist history. It’s creeping determinism. It was an even fight, with Belfort doing damage with punches and Johnson scoring points with punches and takedowns. And yes, Johnson gassed hard. But maybe he wouldn’t have if he had been allowed to work.
Referees: Stop standing fights up! STOP. I don’t care how aesthetically unpleasing a fight might be, and I don’t care how loud the crowd is booing. The fact is, just as some fights are even on the feet, some are also even on the ground. But even fights on the floor always have this “they aren’t doing anything, so they must be stalling” stigma attached to them. I don’t want to watch the Ultimate Kickboxing Championship. I want to watch MMA. And referee standups prevent that from happening.
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by inthepipes on Jan 15, 2012 7:19 PM EST reply actions 13 recs
"Referees: Stop standing fights up! STOP"
No. Just… No.
Although the stand ups were fairly quick, I dont think they were unwarranted. Johnson, when he go the fight down, did NOTHING. I saw his take downs as more of ‘I need a rest’ than ’Im gonna go for some GnP or a sub(lol).
by Ricardo Arguello on Jan 15, 2012 7:49 PM EST reply actions
Johnson was not working.
He didn’t throw a strike for about 20 seconds or more before the first stand up. That’s stalling, pure and simple. He’s lucky he wasn’t in PRIDE, or he’d be looking at a yellow card deduction to his purse on top of the penalty for missing weight.
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by VenusBlue on Jan 15, 2012 8:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Second stand up was questionable, the first one justified.
by discoandherpes on Jan 15, 2012 9:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He warned Johnson
and Johnson still did nothing. Refs have to referee in context. He knew Johnson was gassed to all living hell, and he wasn’t going to do anything in guard.
but Vitor was working an offensive guard
He was in the process of locking up a high guard and working for a submission. Top fighter activity isn’t all the matters.
Stand ups suck in general but that fight was just awful.
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It’s weird though. Judges don’t reward offense if you’re on your back, so the current judging mentality hurts guys being aggressive and working from their back. Vitor could have easily won the round off of his back because he was far more active, but we all know he wouldn’t of, so standing him up is kind of fair.
I don’t know. I’m going to bed. This is confusing me.
by discoandherpes on Jan 16, 2012 7:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree
Unless the guy on the bottom of in a position to win the fight from there he should not be penalised for being active.
by taptomyarmbar on Jan 16, 2012 7:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This x1000
Jordan Mein, Miguel Torres and Gegard Mousasi would agree too.
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exactly
and he allowed Johnson some 30 seconds each time to do something with the position but Johnson was going nowhere and given the ever increasing tally of boring LnP fights this actually comes as an improvement of refereeing in my book. How else would you fight stalling if the judges almost universally ignore offense off the back and so many wrestlers make it their prime strategy to LnP. I think standing fight up after 30 seconds or 1 minute of inactivity from the top in the guard position is a good strategy to keep the action going and punish stalling
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by MicahtheCynic on Jan 15, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
I was wondering how long it would take until people went apeshit about fanposts linking to other websites.
There’s this thing called a fanshot, if you don’t want to contribute an actual article here. Try it out sometime.
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by Zachary Kater on Jan 15, 2012 11:16 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Maybe
Subconsciously Tan Dan was standing them up a bit quick due to Rumble’s ridiculous weight debacle? Because that was way quicker than normal. Prob pissed him off someone missing weight that much.
I thought Dan did an excellent job in this fight and every ref should do the same. The moment the fighter on top takes a “breather”, it’s time to stand them up. Lay & pray has to disappear from this sport, and quick stand ups is one way to achieve that goal.
by Shnak on Jan 16, 2012 7:41 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'd like to see a move towards that
But it has to be consistent
by taptomyarmbar on Jan 16, 2012 7:50 AM EST up reply actions
Well, it has to start somewhere…
When the guy on top clearly wants to work through his opponent’s defense/holding him down tactics to do some damage or advance his position, give him all the time he needs. But as soon as he puts his head down on his opponent’s chest to recuperate for even 2 seconds, stand them up. The time to recuperate is between rounds, not in your opponent’s guard.
For sure. Rumble was clearly looking for a rest even if the standups were a bit quick
by taptomyarmbar on Jan 16, 2012 8:07 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree
Sometimes you have to stop working to wait for an opening. Not everything is lay and pray.
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But in Rumble’s case, it was. He was completely gassed 2 minutes into the fight and wanted to catch his breath.
He was completely gassed
Before the weigh ins! :-)
by taptomyarmbar on Jan 16, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
"Catching your breath" isn't lay and pray.
It’s catching your breath. How is that any different from a guy who gets rocked, and shoots for a double (knowing he’ll never get it, just using it to recover)?
"If you think, you're late. If you're late, you muscle. If you muscle, you get tired. If you tired, you die. When you die is when you tap..."
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Johnson was going body/body/head, then rest. Same deal
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I wish more fights were officiated the way Tan Dan did it.
Rumble wasn’t improving his position or throwing any significant—
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by Rob Young on Jan 16, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
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