UFC 142: Anthony Johnson Doesn't Care What You Think About His Weight Problems
by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 13, 2012 9:40 PM EST
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Anthony Johnson was supposed to make the jump from welterweight to middleweight at UFC 142 against Vitor Belfort. After years of struggling to make 170 pounds, he finally was doing the smart thing and moving up to 185.
...then he weighed in at 197 pounds.
The official explanation out of Johnson's camp for the weight problems this time was illness. Via MMA Weekly:
Robinson says that Johnson started feeling sick and unstable, and so a local doctor came in to check him out to see what exactly was going on.
The doctor gave Johnson fluids to see if it would improve his condition, and within a couple of hours, the Blackzilian fighter started to come back to life. Unfortunately, at this point it was too late to cut the weight back down to 186lbs.
"It was medical reasons, it wasn't for lack of effort," Robinson said. "The UFC was extremely supportive and said health comes first."
Now, Rumble has hit up Facebook and doesn't exactly sound apologetic:
I'm already laughing at what ppl are saying. Yeah it was for medical reason and I did what the UFC Dr Told me to do. Believe it or don't I give a f**k cuz the ppl close to me were freaking out but I'm still alive and something like this has never happen before. Say what you want I'm still gonna do my thang. You try not having feeling in your legs and can't move then and see how you look at life after that
I have a big problem with this. If Johnson was so bad that the people around him were scared and he's celebrating that he is "still alive." Why is this fight going on?
If he was to the point where he had no feeling in his legs and couldn't move them, why should he be allowed to step on the scale three hours later and fight the next day while being forced to not fully rehydrate himself as he has to weigh in again tomorrow?
If this is the truth and not just an excuse for blowing his responsibility to make weight, it sounds like health really doesn't come first.
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Update:
Just to be clear, the MMA Weekly article said local doctor but Johnson said a UFC doctor. When I asked who the doctor was, Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports sent me this:
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Kevin Iole@brentbrookhouse Jeff Davidson of UFC. He's a real doctor. Emergency room physician in Vegas
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Maybe if he didn’t come in heavy so often I might believe what he is saying.
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Seems plausible to me. I mean, as much as he cuts, Daniel Cormier-style weight cutting health problems are pretty plausible. He should probably move up to 205 before his kidneys go Galt.
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His kidneys will become self-entitled assholes who overvalue themselves?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jan 13, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
make that two
I’m sure more people get it.
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by Robert Cowan on Jan 14, 2012 1:53 AM EST up reply actions
you really don't think anyone else knows who Jon Galt is?
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by ElliotMatheny on Jan 14, 2012 3:09 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Fantastic.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jan 14, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
Johnson's head isn't in this fight anymore
He will lose tomorrow.
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by Chad Raynard on Jan 13, 2012 9:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I was wondering, too, where his head would be for the fight
this is really going to affect him, I think. Johnson is fighting his biggest opponent to date, in a new weight division for him, and to top it off, the fight is in Brazil. The pressure on him to perform must be immense.
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by @KatanaClothing on Jan 14, 2012 5:54 AM EST up reply actions
Did he remove it to try and make weight?
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by VenusBlue on Jan 14, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He doesn't care what we think?
I can live with that.
But he should care about what his boss thinks about him missing weight by that much.
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by IRodC on Jan 13, 2012 9:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Unrelated
But Nate Marquardt and BAMMA have split up. Its a pity Dana’s announcement wasnt that he had been brought back to the UFC. Funny how these two were going to fight not so long ago so as well
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 13, 2012 9:45 PM EST reply actions
did marquadt ever even fight over in BAMMA?
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nope
he got pulled from the main event of bamma 8 so that bamma 9 would be their most stacked card but he apparently wants to actually fight so he left
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been waiting for the BE staff to make an article about it, so that we can make fun of BAMMA.
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by Horselover Fat on Jan 14, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve been waiting on BAMMA to have another event so that we can make fun of BAMMA
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 14, 2012 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah. I also read that UFC Sweden sold out in three hours when it opened to the general public.. so now you know that.
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by Horselover Fat on Jan 14, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
Being an idiot, then blaming a "UFC Doctor"
equals – death sentence for the fatboy
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 13, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
I'm confused
Was it that guy or a local doctor?
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Because that’s what someone told them? I dunno.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 13, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
So did the UFC doctor treat him
and tell him to stop cutting? Then it seems Dana is the dick for getting mad.
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dana is a dick, but...
not for this. johnson knows that he has trouble with cutting water and he should have learned by now that he needs to diet down further before he starts cutting waterweight. 1, 2, 3 you’re out!
Send him to Strikeforce to face Jacare for a #1 contender slot and let him prove over several fights he can make weight.
It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
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by memitim on Jan 13, 2012 10:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He needs to fightnat 205, and be done with it.
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Comical that you can view the photo from the weigh-in above
and call him fatboy. Pre-fight prep went wrong, point blank. Kidney or liver issues will leave much more water on his frame. Failure aside, dude is far from fat.
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by DayuumHeGotDropped on Jan 13, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Forget the "he's alive" bit.
Did he just say he lost control of his extremities?
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by Derek Suboticki on Jan 13, 2012 9:46 PM EST reply actions
I assume it’s a misspelling, and it if is, he says “try not having feeling in your legs and can’t move theM”
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by Derek Suboticki on Jan 13, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Anthony Johnson was Eddie Murphy's double in Norbit.
Anthony Johnson nicknamed his mouth “the black hole” because no food escapes from it.
Anthony Johnson is so fat that he’s on the UFC’s “group fighter” insurance weight.
James Toney looked at Anthony Johnson and said “Damn!”
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jan 13, 2012 9:47 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
REALLY I HAD NO IDEA THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jan 13, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Damnit
There was this great pic of Neil Diamond that was supposed to go with that. Picture Neil Diamond under my post. Just smiling and singing and banging your woman so good…
by Hedonismbot on Jan 13, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rumble Johnson is SO FAT
- I took a picture of him last Christmas and its still printing
- He has more chins than a Chinese phone book
- He got arrested at the airport for ten pounds of crack
- He’s packing more pounds than a bank in London
- He wore a yellow raincoat outside and people yelled Taxi!
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by ElliotMatheny on Jan 14, 2012 3:17 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
This is not a moon. It's Anthony Johnson!
He’s so fat, when he lay on the beach people from Greenpeace tried to shove him back into the ocean.
He’s so fat, he walked in front of the tv and I missed the “Lord of the Rings”-Triple-Feature
He’s so fat he pays taxes in three different countries
He’s so fat, lifeguards had to be assigned to his cereal bowl.
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by KGNLuc on Jan 14, 2012 7:41 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
recd for the lifeguards line
never heard it
by Cunny on Jan 14, 2012 8:30 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
recd
because mods let you get away with that username
i've used it and variations of it for over ten years
it’s obscure and nobody uses it so nobody gets mad
i was really surprised when i was suddenly banned from wikipedia
a mod saw my name and branded it as clearly offensive
only time it’s happened and that took like 5 years
makes weight at 170 last fight...but cannot make weight at weight class 15 pounds bigger...
ANTHONY JOHNSON KING OF TROLL PHYSICS
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None of this makes any sense
If his life was even close to being in jeopardy the doctors would have him in the hospital not preparing him to step into a metal cage to fight another man. If his life was in danger Dana White would not say his job is on the line win or lose. Had he not missed weight twice before this incident people wouldn’t be nearly as upset. Coming out and telling the fans who pay to see him fight to F&$% off was a terrible idea. Even we as fans know how Dana feels about his employees responding to their mistakes. This statement isn’t going to do him any favors with the UFC brass. Anthony may have very well just sealed his own fate.
You're acting like there's a third party, reputable commission overseeing this
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by KJ Gould on Jan 13, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So what’s the over/under on whether or not he can make weight tomorrow?
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I’m thinking yeah he makes it
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 13, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
If he has any sense at all, there is no way he is remotely close to making weight on the day of the fight,
and if he does come close to it, he will get utterly wrecked (and perhaps suffer brain injuries) at the hands of Vitor…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 14, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
He only has to be under 205 tomorrow
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But at what point tomorrow,
considering 218 is about what his in-cage weight would have been, had the cut gone as planned…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 14, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
He wont be far off.
Weigh in at 3 pm. Fight 8ish hours later. Easily can put 7 pounds of fluid back in you.
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218 was his weight a week or two ago
He says that he gains ~25lbs between weigh in and fight night, whether at WW or MW, so he was planning to be 210 (and entered the cage ~195 at WW). Those 5 lbs shouldn’t be an issue, particularly since his second weigh in is several hours before the fight.
by paythefighters on Jan 14, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
I think he makes the weight, but not by much
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You are so commercial
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As long as you still get drunk and aggressively argue with me for no apparent reason, I don't give a fuck.
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Deal. I figured there would be a live show
on HDnet tonight so I started drinking early. Just a recap of NYE though. I’ll attack you regardless of your name. I love yelling at you right after you agreed with one of my posts.
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I skirt this by registering with my actual real name everywhere. I wonder if anyone of my employers have ever googled me.
My name isn't Todd.
Nope
They’ve only google’d “Todd Welch”
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by Chris Hall on Jan 13, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Thank Goodness!
RELATED: It took my previous employer 37 days and 3 attempts to get my last check to my new address after I moved across the country. When it finally came on Monday, it was made out to Ted Welch.
My name isn't Todd.
Yeah, because that's how it should be spelled :p
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Careful, dude
The extra D is for “Don’t fuck with the extra D.”
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by Tedd Welch on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Might as well throw an “Y” in there as well, Teddy
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by Horselover Fat on Jan 14, 2012 8:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
your answer should have been:
‘spelled thusly for a double dose of this pimpin’
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by Victor Rodriguez on Jan 14, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i love this thread
thank you for missing weight, Anthony “Apple Crumble” Johnson
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You motherFUCKer.
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You English son of a bitch. You're going to throw a "C" in there for this?
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by Chris Hall on Jan 13, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't even know what you're talking about.
You want to be captain of the Bus Feeders?
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You called me a motherfucker. It should read "mutherfuker"
And no, I don’t have any where near the time or energy to be captain
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No. It should not read mutherfuker. You’re an HKL guy now, not a BE guy.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jan 13, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 16 recs
I hate you, but this was hilarious
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That's true.
Fantastic work by the Machiavellian.
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Strikeforce?
How about the Tachi Palace?
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by T.C. Engel on Jan 13, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Cage Side Seats
If something good happens there, no one ever really finds out because no one pays attention.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jan 13, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Very true.
Good site, but I’ve only ever lurked it.
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so is it safe to say that Sherdog is equivalent to the Miami alleyways where Kimbo used to fight?
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by Victor Rodriguez on Jan 14, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
That is just flat fucking hilarious...
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by The American Ronin on Jan 13, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Nitpicky Brent comes out to play
It’s not an over/under if it’s yes or no. That’s just a bet.
Over/Under would be saying “Over/Under on Johnson’s weight tomorrow is 205.5” and people would take the over or the under.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 13, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
So's your face, Brookhouse
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by Chris Hall on Jan 13, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
damn!
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by IRodC on Jan 13, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My friend’s four year old made me watch that show. Not too shabby. The video game episode with the beard was amazing.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jan 13, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Idk but Vegas should definitely have something on this!
by Terry_TKO on Jan 13, 2012 9:58 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I don't know about over/under, but
if these accounts are accurate, he won’t even be remotely close to making weight at 185, and given he was 218 pre-cut, he will be at a severe (and potentially dangerous) disadvantage even at 205, if what I read in the other account is accurate.
However, opponent Vitor Belfort agreed to continue with the bout if Johnson is not over 205 pounds before he enters the cage Saturday.If he really has to be at 205 immediately pre-fight, he will be fighting dehydrated (by 4+ liters) and at risk for head trauma while fighting the pillow-fisted Vitor…
Here’s hoping the next day weigh-in is first thing in the morning…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 14, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
I believe I saw someone say 2 o'clock tomorrow for his weigh in
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Random side note
But this could unintentionally work out for the best for the UFC. If Johnson wins tomorrow, then TUF Brazil won’t be tainted by the fact that Vitor is coming off a loss, because it will have been to a guy who was grossly overweight.
That’s the only positive I could come up with.
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by mburtoni on Jan 13, 2012 9:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Belfort is the most popular fighter in Brazil
No reason to think losing to Johnson regardless of the weight would have an impact on the ratings
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I know
But having both wandy and Vitor coming off wins just gives the whole thing a little more oomph.
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by mburtoni on Jan 13, 2012 10:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That wasn’t a very relevant reply. I should put my vaporizer away and go to sleep.
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by mburtoni on Jan 13, 2012 10:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
actually having Vitor coming off a loss would make the matchup more believable
Wand isn’t exactly an elite fighter anymore
totally agree
he’s so pissed at rumble. but i love how rumble is obviously not sure how to handle this situation…staring down at the scale like it’s somehow going to make it all better…
Because Vitor made weight
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by mburtoni on Jan 13, 2012 10:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why not go back to UFC 1
And not have weight classes and a clock?
No shit
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by JonBon Joey on Jan 13, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Because then
we would have to endure another Gracie/Shamrock at some point…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 14, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good God, imagine a Nik Lentz fight under those rules.
"Nothin' wrong with an ass whuppin' every now and then. You take away the ass whuppin's and what do you get? You get people wearin' pants below their belly buttons. I'm tellin' you, you go out these days and see the crack of a young lady's butt. It's crazy, man. They should be locked up for indecent exposure. Look here. See? Suspenders! And a belt! I ain't takin' no chances."
Would he feel ill if he was 197 the week before and not 218?
Always with the excuses. He is just lazy, un-disciplined, un-professional and soon to be un-employed.
Biggest opportunity of his life and he still can’t get it right.
People calling for him to get cut are seriously overreacting.
He’s on a win streak and could still very possibly upset Belfort tomorrow. And there’s no way he gets cut with a loss.
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He is
coming off too decent wins, but hes failed to make weigh b4 & if he loses & they cut him dana wont be worried about him goint to another organization & getting big b-cuz he can say “he lost to vitor & wasnt good enuff to be in the UFC.”
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by JonBon Joey on Jan 13, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
If this had been more like when he fought Yoshida and missed weight, then I'd agree with you.
But since he did have a medical issue (though I’m sure it’s related to the cut), I really don’t see Dana cutting him. Also, remember, he’s talented new blood in the extremely top heavy MW division.
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Yea I hope ur right
Rumble is a beast & i think he will eventually fight for a title
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by JonBon Joey on Jan 13, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
A win over Vitor would put him right in line.
I’d put him against the winner of Maia/Bisping for next contender after Munoz/Sonnen
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If he loses
But i think Brazil is mad tmrw night becuz Vitor & aldo will both lose, but i hope vitor wins
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by JonBon Joey on Jan 13, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not advocating for him to get cut
I don’t want that in any way shape or form, but this pretty much takes the cake in unprofessionalism. If he does get fired I wouldn’t even be mad.
He's missed weight 3 times by a combined 23.5 lbs
And has been arrested on domestic violence charges.
The only thing that keeps him afloat is that he’s talented and exciting.
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by SSreporters on Jan 13, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
based on the unbolded criteria ...
He’s the Charlie Sheen of weight cutting.
by Matt Hamill's Ears on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Its win or go home tomorrow
for football teams, as well as Anthony Johnson
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Its seems amazing he ever made 170
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by JonBon Joey on Jan 13, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
How often did he ever make 170?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jan 13, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
7 out of 9 times in the UFC?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 13, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry…8 out of 10
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 13, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Lies! Damn your facts!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jan 13, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
80 percent of the time he made weight everytime.
by twostate on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Rumble" Johnson is...
FIRED!!! Pretty dumb move jumping on Facebook…the plot thickens & his explanations make Dana & company look more heartless than Vince McMahon (sorry for the wrestling reference).
Its all BS though…what is he now…a 3peat offender? Totally unprofessional!!!
by fallenidol2012 on Jan 13, 2012 10:08 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I thought rumble was gonna make weight
The bad thing is when he beats vitor it’s going to be overshadowed by this
by psychoblack on Jan 13, 2012 10:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions 8 recs
Keep doing ya thang that’s all that matters
by psychoblack on Jan 13, 2012 10:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 8 recs
Don't worry
I won’t fade Rumble
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by Chris Hall on Jan 13, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He obviously ran into some serious problem during his cut, perhaps even unrelated to it (i.e. illness),
but if he really was 218 pre-cut and has to be 205 on fight day, unless it is first thing in the morning, he is going to be overly dehydrated and lose a fight that he should have won…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 14, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
should have won?
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here. Who has AJ beaten? And now who has Vitor beaten? Why would anyone assume that Rumble should win this one?
by Schwizzles on Jan 14, 2012 6:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm with you.
A lot of smart people are drinking the Rumble Kool Aid here. Personally, I don’t think he belongs in the same room as Vitor, let alone the same cage.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 13, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
That's hilarious
I thought you were referring to the doc Sonnen brought in for his CSAC hearing last year
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That's fucking hilarious. Legit lols.
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So I need to bet it all on Vitor is what you’re saying.
by Jesus H. Christ on Jan 13, 2012 10:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I’ve been busy getting shit done with the Tebow.
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PRAISE JEBUS!!!
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by Sugel Mendoza on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
...have you heard of Africa...?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
YEa if you can't feel your legs...why are you fighting the next day even if you got some water with extra minerals and what not
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Are you really that stupid that you'll mock me?
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Not mocking you im serious that dude is all over this site
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It's true.
That backdrop Ink Masters shit.
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I agree with that, his face is starting to piss me off
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Not sure whay pisses me off more his face or the fact that a guy with so many shitty tattoos is somehow on a show called Ink Masters
by Art_Wanderlei on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
agreed navarro is a creepy fuck
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by Chris Hall on Jan 13, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
I have a feeling it has to do with his inability to get his tattoo done
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If the UFC were so “supportive” why is their president ripping johnson like that? not exactly making Dana look great there. All over/unders aside, does anyone know how likely it is that he actually makes the new 205 limit, whats kinda average for the weight to be putting back on from that cut? can you actually put on that much with fluid just b4 the weigh in itself?
You have problem, use leg kick....war?leg kick famine?leg kick wanderlei silva?leg kick
It was reported in another area
that he was 218 a week out, which means that he would have been within a few pounds of that in the cage had everything gone per plan…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 14, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Soo what happens if Rumble is over 205 tomorrow?
Is the fight just canceled? Thats a pretty big blow to the card.
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this card might not sell a single ppv anyway
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I'm watching the Barnett "wrestling match" from NYE
I seriously don’t care how cool the fans think this is because of the history of “wrestling” in Japan. I guarantee they are as disturbed as me.
I’d rather be forced to watch a weekend of OWN than this. Pure garbage.
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I haven't paid attention
to most of the posts here…buttttt
maybe 205 for Rumble. Hooooooooooooooo, maybe not. Just F****** make weight. You are the co-main event. It is your job to make weight. JOB.
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by DisforDelicious on Jan 13, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions
Lost in all of this
Is that Vitor Belfort once again is not in a middleweight fight. Sucks for him.
He got the Franklinweight fight for the title shot, then after the Andy whipping fought Akiyama, and now Rumble can’t make 185.
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I'm picking him by 1st KO
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I also feel bad for vitor
Although I’m sure Johnsons situation
Must have been an emergency, it’s quite obvious he shouldn’t be attempting such weight cuts
by theworldismine on Jan 13, 2012 11:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
AJ can give fits all he wants to fans, the fact of the matter though is he has lost all sympathy for having been a repeat offender over the years. This miss whether or not he was medically stopped is just the icing on a pile of shit cake. I think even his most diehard fans are tired of shit cake at this point.
Win or lose, AJ needs to suffer from severe consequences from the UFC for this. 20% of his purse isn’t enough imo.
by Empty Thoughts on Jan 13, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions
Wow, lost a lot of respect for Rumble....
As a UFC fighter it is your responsibility to make weight. Rumble should have had planned things out a bit better than cutting it all last minute. Rumble has continued to come in over weight, whether it be at welter weight or middle weight. It is extremely disrespectful to the UFC and the UFC fans and I think there should be stiffer punishment for not making weight especially by so much. I’m pretty sure a lot of fighters wouldn’t mind giving up 20% if they could come in 11 pounds over :S
There is nothing unusual about the amount of weight to be cut, but something clearly went very wrong
the prep and actual cut are all done 7-10 days prior to weigh-in, with the vast majority of the actual water loss taking place 24-36 hours prior to weigh-in.
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by The American Ronin on Jan 14, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
I think cutting water from 218 would be at the highest end of the spectrum for 185. Sonnen claimed he was 207 in the cage against Silva and everyone thought that was pretty big. 218 in cage would be a decent sized 205er, not as big as Forrest, but not as small as Shogun/Hendo/Rashad.
by Schwizzles on Jan 14, 2012 7:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jon Jones was 218 before he fought Rampage.
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by dancingChicken on Jan 14, 2012 7:18 AM EST up reply actions
I really hope Belfort brings back the Phenom
I really hate when guys miss weight, especially this badly I really root for the other guy. Honestly, I would have liked to see Vitor make him sweat out a few more lbs before agreeing to the fight. 11 pounds over? WTF? He should be banished to 205 and we’ll see what Jon Jones has to say about all this.
I consider myself a softcore fan.
Anthony Johnson doesn't care what I think about hos weight problems?!?
Fine then. We’re breaking up.
by Matt Hamill's Ears on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Honestly Rumble needs to take a year off from fighting to get his weight cutting process in order before his kidney’s get to messed up or fail, hook up with Mike Dolce and get his weight in order so he can fully reach his potential
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lol, I think Rumble is missing the point
sure it doesn’t matter what we think about his weight issues, BUT if he can’t make weight then he can’t be a pro fighter. Simple as that.
Seriously, how many times can a guy miss weight before the commission revokes his license!
Ask Paul Daley
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 14, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
"Fuck you, its a medical problem" may well be a legitmate argument
If the medical problem didnt stem from the fact that your dumbass was trying to cut like 30 lbs in a few days.
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by Sean in Vancouver on Jan 14, 2012 12:39 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
he's right
cutting 30lbs in a few days is a dumb idea
not like he said he’d kick rumble’s ass
i would though
twice
That's only cause you can kick it from your house.
While he’s still in Brazil.
Share for share, share alike, you'll get struck each time I strike.
Rumble is to blame – he is obviously not comfortable fighting guys his own size and has to try and give himself a significant weight advantage for every fight. Moving up to 185 and adding bulk when you already missed 170 by 6 & 7 lbs is unprofessional.
We’re not allowed to comment on that now? Whatever!
by taptomyarmbar on Jan 14, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
I thought the whole reason we have weight classes is so that two people can fight at roughly equal size. Weight cutting seems to totally undermine this principle
by terzergoss on Jan 14, 2012 12:44 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
you would think so right?
he’s like 6’2 and he made 170 somehow. 185 seemed logical and he’d still be on the big side of middleweight giving him a size advantage yet again. he won’t fight at 205 because he won’t have a sizeable advantage anymore and he’d get waxed out of there by anyone in the top 10 at LHW that’s why. Dude needs to learn how to fight better so he’s not worried about a size or learn how to cut weight like a fucking pro.
by TheDreadedMarco on Jan 14, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
What a disgrace...
Did anyone see if Mike Van Arsdale’s foot was on the scale again?
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Health problems or not, he put himself in this position by weighing too much. Only one person to blame here. The UFC needs to take a stand here and say this is NOT okay to do. Suspension, fine, something, anything.
ummm, they're already deducting 20% of his purse.
i’m pretty sure after this event, win or lose for AJ, the ufc will no doubt suggest him to move to LHW. his explanation seems plausible and i think Dana will cool down a bit.
heres my take on what occurred
Johnson is way over weight, will miss anyways. The ufc doesn’t wanna scratch this fight because its got Vitor Belfort on the other side and the card is in Brazil.
Cue a sob story on how sick Johnson was hours before weigh ins. They hydrate him and suddenly he’s a-okay. Fight goes on. Ufc doesn’t lose a big semi main event. Plus it brings new life into the mw division if johnson can ever make weight. Because if it weren’t for this big of a stage, johnson would be cut before the fight. Now, vitor has a chance to beat a blown up mw and possibly wipe him out of the ufc. If he loses, he lost to a lhw.
No doctor, would allow this fight to go on. No sane person would go into a fight having been near death hours earlier.
by Ricardo Arguello on Jan 14, 2012 2:01 AM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Maybe if you stopped trying to cut 50 lbs per fight you fuckin tool
Medical reasons?? I don’t give a shit, fight at a higher weight then. It’s YOUR choice what weight class you compete in, nobody is forcing you. Dumbass, hope you get your ass KTFO & cut from the UFC. Go fight in Strikeforce.
by Mr.Italiano on Jan 14, 2012 2:31 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
What's weird about this is how Dana White doesn't seem pissed off at all.
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he'd be more pissed if the fight was not going to happen
i couldn’t care less as long as they fight, the others can go cry about it but his still fighting and they are still going to watch
Dont act like your shit dont stink
Until a doctor says otherwise, I'm going to assume it was due to the weight cut...
Which means it’s still 100% Johnsons fault. He had issues cutting to 170, so he moves up to 185. In his move to 185 he adds more bulk (probably both fat and muscle), wtf? If you’re having trouble cutting to a lower weight class, then don’t move up a weight class and add more mass, that’s the same shit haha.
Anyone else think
These guys who miss weight should pay more than 20%? Incrementally.
i.e. 1 lbs over 20%, for every pound over that 10% more.
Missing weight is becoming way too commonplace, guys would rather take a 20% hit than actually go the extra mile to take the weight off.
on that basis Rumble would have to pay 10% of his purse to the UFC! :-S
by taptomyarmbar on Jan 14, 2012 3:34 AM EST up reply actions
"im sick, i can come in today"
Except im a professional fighter and i get 2 to 4 paydays a year, and if i excel i can be making six figures in this calendar year. I actually have the god given talent to do so. But i have a 2nd tier, losers mentality.
Done with Rumble. Not a fan.
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by warren305 on Jan 14, 2012 5:38 AM EST via mobile reply actions
didnt you get his comments
he doesn’t care ,get your tissues ready when he beats vitor foob
Dont act like your shit dont stink
And to answer Brent's question....
Anthony is full of shit.
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by warren305 on Jan 14, 2012 5:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions
actually full of liquids
that made him balloon up, you been under rock man?
Dont act like your shit dont stink
he obv never did the weight cut properly ... otherwise he wouldn't feel fine after fluids in a couple of hours lol
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by Thorpey on Jan 14, 2012 6:54 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
To bad the fight wasn't in Mexico...
Rumble would have had montozuma’s revenge and would have been under the weight limit…
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by RECE ROCK on Jan 14, 2012 7:16 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The plot thickens
http://mmajunkie.com/news/26970/win-or-lose-anthony-johnsons-job-is-on-the-line-at-ufc-142.mma
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Honestly
His kidneys are probably still messed up from all those stupid, unnecessary cuts to 170. He should’ve been fighting at Middleweight a LONG time ago and the cut he made to make 170 bordered on cheating IMO. I’m a Rumble fan but I always thought it was ridiculous that someone his size was allowed to compete at 170 lbs. I do believe that the doctor had to rehydrate him before the weigh-in because coming in that much overweight would be bizarre under normal circumstances.
There should be a weigh-in 4 days before the fight… you can’t be more than 10% over your fight weight. Let’s stop with this cutting 40 pounds in a matter of 2-3 days BS. Guys are putting themselves at serious risk by doing that.
by Shnak on Jan 14, 2012 7:29 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I love how Vitor basically turned this to his benefit
..with the stipulation that Johnson come in at 205.
Vitor is probably going to be 205 or more by fight time anyway, so there’s no weight disadvantage. Johnson has to keep watching his weight up until the fight as opposed to rehydrating properly. And Vitor gets 20% of Johnsons moneys.
Vitor made out like a bandit here. I like it!
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by Peter Nathaniel Fury on Jan 14, 2012 9:00 AM EST reply actions
why not make him cut more and make him weigh 185
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 14, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
^^Thats how every Brazilian looks at Arianny
like.. “you call THAT a ringcard girl????”
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by DayuumHeGotDropped on Jan 14, 2012 9:53 AM EST reply actions
why hasn't anyone called out Rumble's camp yet?
they’re not looking out for the fighter’s best interest if they keep on trying to get him to cut weight that he obviously can’t
His Management is at
fault here just as much as AJ is. They should have him working with a nutritionist to make these weight cuts, that’s a no brainer. They should also control his FB account. Allowing him to miss weight by 11 lbs and then take to FB to lash out at his fans is two strikes. This whole incident stemmed from his trying to cut too much weight too quickly. It wasn’t some outside illness.
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