In the last installment of our epic blab fest, Kid Nate and Luke Thomas discuss the Mayweather method of hyping fights, the influence of pro wrestling on Muhammad Ali, the tension between MMA and amateur wrestling, the tension between the UFC's spectacle-driven PPV model and the way they "book fights like they're the NCAA," and poor, sad Satoshi Ishii. Pore over the insight at MMA Nation.
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Nate Wilcox
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Nate, you should get on writing more opinion and history pieces again! The world needs it.
See and learn the secret death touch!
by Horselover Fat on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 AM EST reply actions
I'll be getting back to the history pieces
guess you don’t like my industry analysis. : (
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by Nate Wilcox on Jan 13, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Well yeah, actually I do! Didn’t mean it that way, I definitely enjoyed this talk with Luke. Your business stuff is solid too. Maybe it’s just me but I have the feeling you haven’t been writing as much in general lately, that’s what I was getting at.
See and learn the secret death touch!
by Horselover Fat on Jan 13, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i've been pretty swamped with the more dreary management side of things
but hoping to do more writing in 2012!
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That’s what I suspected. Damn those SBNation overlords!
See and learn the secret death touch!
by Horselover Fat on Jan 13, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
I don't appear to be able to rec this here
But consider it symbolically rec’d
Cecil People's Champs
Still the head conductor of the Charles Oliveira hype train.
Good discussion
Tbh, I’ve always enjoyed the theatrical pro wrestling presentation of organizations like PRIDE and DREAM. It builds stars more than the UFC does even if that comes at the loss of some sporting legitimacy. And when you think about it, it’s not completely fake. The fighters may be fed cans in order to build some hype and highlight footage, but what makes a fighter a star are real victories against legit opponents—in other words, real career moments.
You correctly state that this system can sometimes consume a promising prospect like Satoshi Ishii who has the fame but not the experience. At the same time, I think Ishii was more the victim of timing on DREAM’s part because they had no big draws other than an aging Sakuraba and Shinya Aoki, who for his many missteps is a questionable draw. Ishii was the only guy who they could promote that wasn’t complaining about not being paid. They just as easily could have given him more 1-0 guys to slowly build up his record (Remember Brock Lesnar fighting Min-Soo Kim at K-1 Heroes?), but I think they were just out of options—they had to give their dwindling TV audiences a face they could recognize and quickly convince them that he was the real deal. They just struck out again that time.




















