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Cristiane Cyborg Santos calls out Ronda Rousey for calling her a cheater

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Cris Cyborg has been getting a lot of attention as of late, the type of attention I’m sure no fighter would like to have. Failing a drug test after her bout with Hiroko Yamanaka on December 17th, Cyborg has been the target of a lot of backlash from the MMA community as a whole. Certainly the backlash is deserving, but I’d argue that this is not the normal type of backlash most fighters are used to when they fail a drug test, but then again, this is not just any fighter, it’s a top ranked female fighter, and for a community which still struggles to see women fight, perhaps the amount of backlash is understandable.

Cris went on SporTV.com to share her frustration with one Ronda Rousey, who made remarks that she always knew Cris was a cheater:

I don’t like to talk too much, I like to act instead. But now my hands are tied, I am suspended. This will be the first and last time I will talk. First of all, (Ronda Rousey) has been running away from me for a long time. We were going to fight, she talked a lot but left our division. And now she’s starting to talk because she knows that our fight will be difficult to happen. It’s easy to talk. She’s saying things that she shouldn’t be saying which hurts the sport. She’s directly affirming that I have used things before and disrespecting the Athletic Commission. In all of the fights I’ve had I passed the drug tests. What happened now was a mistake. I always respect my opponents, but with Ronda it will be different. She will have a year to train, that is, if she has the courage to throw hands with me. I will continue to train, I will compete in other sports such as jiu-jitsu and wrestling. It was a mistake, but it was good because I’ll continue to train and improve. She’ll have a year to get ready.

She also talked a little more about failing the test, and that she’ll take this mistake as a positive and that other fighters should take the opportunity to learn from this as well:

I was having troubles losing weight and I didn’t know it had a banned substance. I made a mistake of not getting it cleared by a doctor. I was told it was just to lose weight. My biggest problem (getting ready for a fight) is to lose the weight. I was absent from fighting for two years, and it’s harder to lose the weight, but I never had to do this (steroids). It was not to get stronger, only to lose weight. It was a fatality. I don’t need anything to win a fight. I have a clear conscious. I don’t think it would have been any different (had I not got caught), because I didn’t have an opponent anyway.

We learn from our mistakes. I was not the first to take it and won’t be the last. I hope that this will serve as an experience to other fighters. People need to inform themselves before taking anything. What I have built inside MMA will not end because of this.

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All that cranial swelling must be an overabundance of happiness then

No wait, you’re a cheater and you got caught. Deal with it.

"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."

by menckenstein on Jan 12, 2012 1:35 PM EST reply actions  

What cranial swelling?

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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Her buff face

"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."

by menckenstein on Jan 12, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard to say about her craniofacial structure without good before and after pics, although that is not even a reputed side effect of stanozolol as best I know. She doesn’t have any of the often-present facial swelling (water retention related) that many users of synthetic test get, but she wouldn’t with this drug.

There is no two ways about it, she used a banned product, and any ignorance is no excuse, but this particular drug is not much of a PED used alone.

Of course, I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if she also used other AAS drugs, but that is because I believe something on the order of perhaps 80% or so of professional combat athletes (and NFL players for that matter) have used a banned substance as a PED at one time or another.

"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
Never send sheep to kill a wolf.

by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's here first fight

She’s noticeably smaller, way less muscular, more feminine and not nearly as powerful.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

not really a good way to make a comparison IMO, she had just started fighting, she came from the sport of handball, therefore it’s understandable that she gained more muscle since then (regardless if it’s without steroids or not). this fight is from 2005 with a much less trained cyborg, if you see a video from GSP from 2005 you’ll notice many differences in his body type as well.

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by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

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by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you misunderstood what I'm saying

His body hasn’t changed nearly as much as hers.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually saw a fight from his today in the classic UFC stuff I get, he was fighting Jay Hieron, and looked way different from the GSP of today, much less muscle mass IMO. what I’m saying though is that when they took Cris out of handball they threw her in MMA right away, she hadn’t had the time to be a well trained MMA fighter just yet, so IMO it’s understandable that she gained a lot more muscle mass (but I’m not saying she’s innocent, just that looking at her first fight and her latest ins’t a good comparison IMO).

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by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s understandable that she gained a lot more muscle mass

That’s not how it works for women.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

well

I’m no expert, if we can get a doctor talking about these stuff it would be much more helpful :p

I call you, I talk to me - Anderson Silva

by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Just read up on it

These are scientific facts.

Look it up anywhere reputable. Women do not put on muscle very well at all because they don’t have the hormones. Its an indisputable fact.

Joe Rogan recently had a doctor on his podcast talking about her and he said the same thing. He even said a without even knowing nothing about her, the before and after picture made it pretty clear.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

are these girls on steroids then?

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by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Its possible

But they are not even comparable.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

depends when you take a picture

if they have just worked out obviously they’ll look bigger since they got blood running strong through their bodies.

I call you, I talk to me - Anderson Silva

by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, dude

We’re just gonna have to agree to disagree, because I could post 30 different pictures of her looking beastly.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

but she doesn’t look big in those though, does she?

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by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

As big?

No.

But some pics make me look tall, too. :P

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Using weigh in and/or fight shape pics will not show what she really looks like

She cuts a ton of weight and no matter what shes going to look ripped up. In her everyday pics she does not look drawn out or tore up as much. Weight cutting helps give her that look.

James Irvin looked awful as well when he cut to 185. Its probably more of a case of Cybog cutting too much weight.

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on Jan 12, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry Orcus, but you don´t even have to look at Cyborg´s muscles.

It´s her face, the chick looks like a dude!!

Her jaw is almost Bigfoot-ish. If you take the hair and the make up she is a dude.

If you look at all the other fighters, they do have a stronger jawline. But Cyborg is just freakish.

I say she´s lucky that she was caught “only” with diuretic stuff, because there´s no way in hell that she wasn´t cycling with heavier steroids.

by edtSD on Jan 13, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought you were posting pictures of normal looking fighters

to compare her to, honestly.

Those girls look nothing like that and they’re not cutting down to make 145lbs. :P

Cris is muscular compared to male MMA fighters.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

hey man

I just searched ‘female mma’ to be honest, what do you mean those girls look nothing like that?

I call you, I talk to me - Anderson Silva

by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

If they look like her

I look like the new Rashad.

They are toned and have a little muscle. Megumi Fujii is 115lbs.

Cyborg is huge and ripped. She’s way more cut and much more muscular than any of these girls and almost any other female athlete.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

for a 115lbs fighter, she’s got some big muscles :p

but listen, I’m not saying she’s innocent, I’m really not, I do think she’s not alone in the ‘freak’ department from female fighters though.

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by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Mega Megu is a beast :)

I think other girls may be using, too.

But she’s the only one who seemed too extreme to be natural.

Julia Budd has a similar physique. Just not quite as big or ripped.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yiep

Cyborg looks like a… well Cyborg compared to them. I think you can clearly see that Cyborg has way more lean muscle mass.

"No man dies for what he knows to be true. Men die for what they want to be true, for what some terror in their hearts tells them is not true."

by killphil on Jan 12, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

she's heavier though

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by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what makes it so much worse

Its extremely unusual for a woman her size to be that lean and muscular.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, she is.

But when you look at the pic of Jan Finney (is that the name?), she was an undersized 145er brought in to fight Cyborg. Cyborg on the other hand nearly has to cut off one leg to make 145.

I think the best way to show the difference is looking at weigh in pics. Cyborg’s abs are so ripped compared to all her opponents, those girls you posted are not nearly as a ripped anywhere. I think only Julia Budd comes close. But Cyborg just looks like she’s a 155er.

"No man dies for what he knows to be true. Men die for what they want to be true, for what some terror in their hearts tells them is not true."

by killphil on Jan 12, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

she does claim her biggest problem is cutting weight

but my way of thinking is heavier fighter mean bigger muscle. but seriously, I’m way out of my league with you two since I don’t know much of female MMA.

I call you, I talk to me - Anderson Silva

by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean I feel a bit dumb to follow the logic of comparing pictures taken from different angles, but Cyborg just always felt extremely big compared to her opponents.

I posted a link to the Joe Rogan Experience at the bottom. He had a Dr live on the show and the guy explains the substance and its effects very well.

"No man dies for what he knows to be true. Men die for what they want to be true, for what some terror in their hearts tells them is not true."

by killphil on Jan 12, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

my main thing with the pictures is that you can be selective, she looks huge in some while not so much in others, it really depends when you take the picture, it’s not like she looks huge all the time. I’ll check that podcast later though.

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by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I think she cuts A LOT of weight and thus is left with that drawn out look. There was a picture floating around of her while she was a free agent and she looked different. She was still built like a brick shit house, but not as drawn out. She looked like a good 165 plus in the picture and she was not fat by no means.

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on Jan 12, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

How did Megumi get brought into this?

She ’s not even remotely comparable to Cyborg.

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by Mad-Dog on Jan 12, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

definitely maybe

None of them are as obvious as cyborg though.

by Scott Whitaker on Jan 13, 2012 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm looking at pictures

He looks nearly identical. In no way is he drastically different.

2004 vs Karo

Keep in mind, he is a male strength athlete in his prime and his body has barely changed.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know

seeing the fight today he looked much smaller, perhaps it’s just my eyes lying to me then :p

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by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see how you can say his body looks drastically different

You’re looking at a picture from 2004 and its nearly identical.

If you’re saying he gained a few lbs, that’s understandable but I think its absurd to say he’s changed nearly and much as Cris.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I've never heard anybody

argue that GSP looks bigger than he did in 2004-2005. I actually think that he’s leaned out and built up functional strength.

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by bobby g on Jan 12, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here

His recent pics look leaner than his old ones to me.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I think his arms are much smaller now

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by Tedd Welch on Jan 13, 2012 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say he changed as much as Cris

I said he looked much bigger to me today then he did back when he fought Hieron, how did you make that connection? but then I took that back, you posted a picture and I conceded…

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by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I must have misread

My bad.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

it's cool bra :p

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by Orcus on Jan 12, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He may have put on a little bit of muscle

But since 2004, nothing dramatic has happened to his physique.

by rockyman500 on Jan 14, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

It's true

Most fighter get bigger as they get older. Heavyweights being a prime example. Nog, Cro Cop, and Fedor were all like 220 in pretty good shape early in their careers.

by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Female athletes really gain size and almost never get drastically more muscular, let alone after 21.

I’d like to see one other (tested)female athlete with a physique as extreme as hers who hasn’t tested positive. Just one.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Female athletes really rarely gain size

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Chyna Syndrome

I tried to look for a broader selection of female athletes that would have reason to gain muscle and cut weight, and female boxers made the most sense, but they don’t need the kind of strength that MMA wrestling can demand, so I don’t know if they really compare. Plus, it seems the weight classes in boxing are more natural, or again I’m completely ignorant, because the boxers just don’t look like the physical specimens the MMA girls do.

Still, Franchesca Alcanter started off looking really hot, then got progressively masculine…receding hairline, veins on the forehead…honestly, she looks like she uses the same skin products as Rick Flair. No Cyborg like jaw, but I’d say there seems to be evidence of PEDs.

For the most part, though, there are plenty of female boxers who are physically larger than Cyborg, fighting at 168lbs, for instance, that don’t have her muscle mass.

by RobtWeaver on Jan 13, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Ronda tells it like it is! Of course she’s been on the juice for a long time before this happened, don’t buy the excuses one bit. Also I can’t fault Ronda for not wanting to fight an obvious monster of science, especially so young in her career. Manborg needs to shut up and go away.

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by Horselover Fat on Jan 12, 2012 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

I’m always wondering about that too. Does she have a contract with the firm that produces the substance to lose weight? I guess not. So why not calling out the firm and save other fighters the trouble as the always great Bas suggeste? Mhhhh.

"No man dies for what he knows to be true. Men die for what they want to be true, for what some terror in their hearts tells them is not true."

by killphil on Jan 12, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Again

This says it all.

Remember when Ayanbadeggio in the NFL got a positive? That guy listed every supplement he ever took, went on the airwaves and talked about everything specifically. He’s also the only athlete I have ever believed got a real false positive. Dude even started an org to examine the process more closely. That’s what innocent outrage looks like, not vague apologies and no specifics.

by DankNabbot on Jan 13, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

She’s saying things that she shouldn’t be saying which hurts the sport. She’s directly affirming that I have used things before and disrespecting the Athletic Commission. In all the fights I’ve had I passed the drug tests. What happened now was a mistake.

So Ronda is hurting the sport now, huh…

Yeah and what happened now was definitely a mistake, she fucked up her cycle.

by Rob Young on Jan 12, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

That is not the sort of drug one cycles, not like

the synthetic testosterones. It is used by athletes mainly as a cutting drug (water and fat), particularly by body builders to look harder. It does have some performance enhancing qualities at higher doses, but is almost never used alone for PED purposes.

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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

There's a 95% chance she uses it to finish her cycle

That’s its real purpose in athletics.

People do an anabolic stack, usually with HGH these days, and finish up with Winstrol when its time to lose weight for the event.

The other effect of stanozolol is that it makes your muscles extremely hard and dense. It does provide strength increase but not like Dianabol or Superdrol or straight Test.

But, it is the steroid of choice for women, because it is far less androgenic(less masculinizing, for the unacquainted) than other AAS. Its important to remember that women are extremely sensitive to any anabolic or androgenic compound, so her gains are exaggerated compared to a man’s.

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by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That is its most common use, but it is accomplish many of the same things that must be done prior to weigh-in – loss of retained water and loss of excess fat, so it is plausible to me that someone could use just it alone for that purpose.

Of course, you and I both know that the female body is simply not designed to add lean mass like she has unaided, unless she has some sort of bizarre natural endocrine imbalance (no idea if one has ever been documented that would vastly increase testosterone like that in a female, but I have never looked into it).

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Never send sheep to kill a wolf.

by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Rousey by Lactic Acidosis

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by killphil on Jan 12, 2012 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

Anytime a fighter fails for roids they should be disqualified. This should be a loss on her record.

Andre's Posse

by Anr on Jan 12, 2012 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

I feel like a monetary payment should be given to the opponent also. I mean you have to give up 20% of your purse for missing weight but nothing for testing positive for a banned substance? Just 2500 bucks for the commission? Makes sense!

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by NickaG on Jan 12, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That definitely makes sense

Andre's Posse

by Anr on Jan 12, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

you stop making sense

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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

You don’t hear O.J. complaining about people calling him a murderer…

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, I would just do my best to drop that, regardless of whether I were innocent or guilty. lulz

I'd rather be trollin'.

by thirdparty on Jan 12, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

O.J. says

“Drop what?”

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

"Progress lies not in enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be." - Kahlil Gibran

by merryprankster on Jan 12, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if she’s gonna find out where Ronda walks her dog and jump her in the park like in middle school and fight behind 7-11 until the cops get called.

with fiery Dornish peppers

by Psychic Octopus on Jan 12, 2012 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

I would pay to watch that.

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by TheLastEmpress on Jan 12, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I could be wrong but I thought winstrol was no longer produced by drug manufacturors

Some one has to independently “make it”.
Anyone know if that is or isn’t the case?

by 1N87 on Jan 12, 2012 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

It is still manufactured legitimately,

and in probably far greater quantities still illegally…

"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
Never send sheep to kill a wolf.

by The American Ronin on Jan 13, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

A... fatality?

Cyborg’s got Mortal Kombat on the mind!

by Pyrgz Krum on Jan 12, 2012 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

Isn't it obvious

She killed a woman in a fit of rage.

"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva

"You'll get Lil Wayne in woman pants and like it!" - Krimson

by TheFilt on Jan 12, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Joe Rogan Experience

about the Cyborg incident, where he also brings a Dr. live to comment on Cyborg, the incident etc.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/19671667

"No man dies for what he knows to be true. Men die for what they want to be true, for what some terror in their hearts tells them is not true."

by killphil on Jan 12, 2012 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

Same PED user excuse...

When you are at the nutrition level/discipline that these MMA fighters are at, when you literally have to count the number of grapes you put into your body. I HIGHLY doubt you will put something in your body that you are “unaware of having banned substances”.

Cheater. Never going to look the same in my eyes.

by djfivenine on Jan 12, 2012 6:56 PM EST reply actions  

Cris your husband already got whooped by Ronda’s man, and my man, Nicku Diazu

You next… by armbar too … how romantic

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by yellopanda on Jan 14, 2012 3:04 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

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