Will Tim Tebow Hurt UFC 142's PPV Performance?
by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 12, 2012 11:08 AM EST
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PrintIt's not exactly a secret that the NFL is a ratings monster and with the playoffs in full swing there was always going to be some question as to the impact that a late playoff game on Saturday would have on the pay-per-view buys for UFC 142. Then Tim Tebow happened.
Denver was expected to be bounced from the playoffs in the first round by the Steelers only to pull off yet another improbable win, this time on an 80 yard touchdown pass by Tebow in overtime.
At this point, Tebow is a must-see national phenomenon, regardless of what side of the "is he actually any good?" debate you find yourself on.
See the ratings info from last week's game:
According to a tweet by league spokesman Greg Aiello, the overtime game won by the Broncos was the "most-watched Wild Card game ever w/42.4 million viewers, & most-watched TV program since Super Bowl XLV."
According to Boston.com, the game earned a 25.9 overnight Nielsen rating. (A ratings point represents 1,147,000 households, or 1 percent of the nation's estimated 114.7 million TV homes).
Saturday night the Broncos face the New England Patriots at 8 p.m. in what is sure to be a game that draws incredible ratings.
While there is certainly a base of MMA fans who order nearly every UFC card, there is a large portion of the audience the promotion attempts to draw from that is simply the curious and bored looking for some excitement on a Saturday night. There will be almost none of that with a football game featuring a national sensation (Tebow), a proven constant title contender (Patriots) with incredible meaning (playoffs) going up against the pay-per-view.
A card headlined by a bout between Chad Mendes and Jose Aldo was never likely to do huge numbers. But will the combination of a main event with little mass audience appeal and a football game that goes beyond the sport actually contribute to a card that doesn't break the 200,000 buy mark on PPV?
I have a feeling the answer will be yes.
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GOD, first pro wrestling and now THIS?
Bloody Elbow is ruined forever. Stop killing MMA, Brookhouse >:(
OTHER SPORTS DON’T EXIST, JUST MMA.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Jan 12, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
What is "sports" ?
Is that some kind of club for h_m_s?!
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Jan 12, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
What about competitive cheerleading?
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Jan 12, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, right: "sports entertainment."
Nevermind, then.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Jan 12, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
pro wrestling is a sport
that all we see nowadays are fictional matches by characters doesn’t change that fact.
it might be a dead sport or more likely at this point a fictional sport, but it still in its core a sport.
Usually I would sprinkle my reply with wit and guarded humour but in this instance:
You’re a moron.
by UncleMax on Jan 12, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
I'll take it from here Luke
That is the stupidest comment I’ve read all day.
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by IRodC on Jan 12, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You must have just logged on...
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Would not any competitive sport, by definition, have the outcome not pre-determined?
/calls sports bookie…“I want to put 10K on Harlem to win and cover…”
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Competitive sports, sure… but we’re talking about “sport” here.
by Shnak on Jan 12, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
True, good point
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Is there a requirement for competitiveness to be considered a sport? Hunting and fishing are generally considered sports, and they usually don’t have competitive aspects to them.
by Shnak on Jan 12, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
They are?
I genuinely didn’t know that.
by Lauren J Darkbloom on Jan 12, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
There are fishing tournaments...
An annoying Fitch fan.
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by Zachary Kater on Jan 12, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
It is a sport
if someone is physically trying to prevent you from acheiving your goal (note, actual physical contact is not required).
Everything else is a competition.
Sports: Baseball, basketball, football, soccer, MMA, wrestling, polo, waterpolo, rugby, NASCAR, vollyball, jai ali, boxing, tennis, etc….
Competitons: gymnastics, track and field events, synchronized swimming, swimming, ice skating, skiing, snowboarding etc…..
Those actually are sports
They have tournaments and everything, der di derp derp
and arm wrestling
fencing
badminton
CHESS!
So if it doesnt have Marv Albert spewing hot air during the match its not a sport to you huh?
by MostDiabolicalCasanova on Jan 12, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
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Actually, I said that because I am a fan of other sports.
I can’t enjoy sports talk radio or TV any more because Tim Tebow is shoved down my throat EVERY DAY. I love the NFL and divisional playoff weekend is the best weekend of the season but you wouldn’t know there were three other games going on because Tebow is basically the only topic of conversation. He is not a good QB, he’s not the only role model in the league, and he’s damn sure not the only Christian in the league. He’s a story because every major media outlet made him one. I love BE and Brent’s actually one of my favorite staffers but I did not feel like seeing this today. If I was an asshole look to start up some stuff, I would say he was just looking for hits, which I am not implying. As I type this, Sportscenter is having an hour of programming dedicated to Tim Tebow. That’s ridiculous and sad. My post was out of frustration and I know I’m not the only one.
My reply to you sir (presumably)
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
A little of both
I’m definitely a bit tired of hearing about it so much, but I will tune in to see it.
I really, really, really hope they find a way to win, but my reasons differ from most – I want my Texans to play at home next round after spanking Baltimore, and that is the only way it happens.
Mediocre QB at best, near-elite football player, all things considered…sure, he looks like he is unleashing a slider with that wind-up, but…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Okay cool.
Since I don’t have a team per se, there are certain teams I kind of root for at different times. Texans are one of them this year. What they’ve done with the injuries they’ve had this season is flat out amazing.
As for Tebow, I have NOTHING against him has a person. I actually respect what he does. The mania, hype, and fawning is what I can’t take. And I’m not a big media conspiracy person but the way they’ve been forcing the narrative (ESPECIALLY ESPN which I probably watch too much of) gets on my nerves. Hell, it was bad when he was at Florida. I swear Verne Lundquist was getting off in the booth while commentating some of his games.
It has certainly wrecked ESPN radio, that's for sure...
I admit, it is a great story, and anything that brings out both sides of the extremists on almost any issue is fun for me…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
and mine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIQWzW1MIc
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
I like you, and usually agree with you, but I’m going to have to drop the ultimate weapon on you…my apologies in advance…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Dude most of the time I know I'm about to be Rick Rolled
And I still click it anyway.
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
You know why?
Because you have this guy’s outlook…
Call it before you click it…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Oh damn, the honey badger
Nice one. I thought you were just going to Rick Roll me again. Not that I give a shit.
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Even though l like to use this instead of a traditional rick roll
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
That was...brutal...
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll be watching Aldo, but if Rodgers or Brees were playing… I might track down the UFC later.
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by Chris Sarda on Jan 12, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
GET THAT DEMON OFF BE!
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by Tim Burke on Jan 12, 2012 11:02 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
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by NickRingp4pGOAT on Jan 13, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Tebow
is why we can’t have nice things?
I think it breaks 200k but not by much, maybe 225k
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Only 225K ordered UFC 136
And that had the Edgar-Maynard rematch along with Aldo fighting a much more well known name in Kenny Florian. Then the fact that it’s only two weeks after a Lesnar fight, and it’s in Brazil, where even Anderson Silva took a massive dip in buys against a lesser name opponent, and 175K might be a generous estimate.
by Jamie Penick on Jan 12, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Well the best news is with a so so championship match and the almighty Tebow on TV, we’ll get a true count of “hardcore” fans that we can refer to throughout the year…
I say right around 200,000 will watch even Aldo over football.
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Not really
I consider myself a hardcore fan but not to the point where I’m going to sit in my house alone and watch a so so card while everyone I know is out watching the football game. I think that’s gonna be a big problem…for people who are used to watching fights with other people or in bars, it’s gonna be a major issue finding others to go with
by MemphisMike on Jan 12, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Youre a hardcore fan but you can only watch fights with other people?
by nomomrnicekyle on Jan 12, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
No...
But I didn’t realize if you don’t put MMA in front of every person/place/thing in your life you aren’t “hardcore enough”. My bad
Me too, and
for people who are used to watching fights with other people or in bars, it’s gonna be a major issue finding others to go with
And probably a bigger issue finding a bar that is showing the fight…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
And definitely a bigger issue trying to find a bar with seating.
I’m fucked.
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by Paulo Filho's Psychiatrist on Jan 12, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Shit, why lie?
‘Cause I’ll watch both just to see the play-by-play analysis as the NFL journalists masterbate over Tebow — before New England smashes his team.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Jan 12, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Well scratch “hardcore” fans who will watch every UFC above anything else on TV…
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by Chris Sarda on Jan 12, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 11:04 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
I think you're right...
It will hurt it. I know I’ll be watching the game. Might catch the rest of the PPV at a bar afterwards, but I wouldn’t pay for it.
honestly, the Patriots are a good team not hobbled by injury
They beat the piss out of Denver the first time they played and I wouldn’t be surprised if they jump ahead of them early and run away with it.
Saturday night the Broncos face the New England Patriots at 8 p.m. in what is sure to be a game that draws incredible ratings.
I fully expect the game to be a laugher by the time 9:30 rolls around, so I will be switching to the UFC
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 11:06 AM EST reply actions
Can you imagine
what the over would be in a Pats/Saints or especially Pats/Packers SB? Given how safe Vegas plays the Superbowl odds, it would be literally triple digits.
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Pats 63, Tebows 0.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Jan 12, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
…and Cecil Peoples strokes his cock in approval. all is well.
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by Victor Rodriguez on Jan 12, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Don't doubt Tebow's ability to troll
Tank the first game to make everyone think he sucks…crush them in the playoffs.
by MemphisMike on Jan 12, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
If that were true,
I would really start to like and appreciate him…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Denver began that game in complete control but gave it away
with those back to back fumbles. This one could go down to the wire if they play turnover free football
Yes sir, ppl just think it was a blowout but take away 2 of the 3 fumbles and that game goes down to te end
by Afrotikiman on Jan 12, 2012 11:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Broncos won’t fumble 3 times in the second quarter and give Brady 17 free points…I think broncos have a legit shot
by Afrotikiman on Jan 12, 2012 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I fully expect the game to be a laugher by the time 9:30 rolls around, so I will be switching to the UFC
That’s the rub…there have been so many hairball comebacks that everyone will still be watching…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
How good are the Patriots really though?
They lost to the only two quality teams they played…might be more like my University of Houston than OSU (or another all-offense team)…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Quick someone call up the Patriots front office
They need to sign Palhares as a Defensive End ASAP
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put him in one play
/tears of Tebow’s leg
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by merryprankster on Jan 12, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd chip in for that.
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by NickRingp4pGOAT on Jan 13, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if we're going to look back on Tebow kind of like Dan Hardy.
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 11:07 AM EST reply actions
You shut your filthy mouth!
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by Worldisart on Jan 12, 2012 11:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It kind of makes sense
Hardy is a fighter with very little ability to grapple (kind of important if you are a fighter) and Tebow has very little ability to throw the football (kind of important if you are a quarterback).
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Tebow has actually won a championship
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by KimboLeopoldo on Jan 12, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
I'll be watching football
This card just hasn’t really got me all that excited.
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by Worldisart on Jan 12, 2012 11:07 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Watch it be amazing
It seems like every time someone says that crazy shit happens.
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
I’m sure it’ll be perfectly entertaining, but without knowing how things are going to turn out, given my options, and given that I’m a huge Pats fan, I’m going to go with the football game. If the game is out of hand by the time the PPV starts I’ll order the card.
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Same.
Truth be told, however, I’d prob be watching football even if Jon jones was fighting. This is the playoffs!
I'm gonna guess around 250k
The combination of it being in Brazil and not having a good draw on the card hurts it a lot, but I can’t see it going under 200k
ah mr brookhouse ever the optimist
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by The Omaplatapus on Jan 12, 2012 11:08 AM EST reply actions
You just watch,
after Vitor gets KTFO by Rumble, Johnson will Tebow right there, over his unconscious body, and a new star will be born…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, It will
But not as much as the Patriots are gonna hurt Tebow’s feelings
No, your dumb
by RashadsLeftNipple on Jan 12, 2012 11:09 AM EST reply actions
Great, another excuse all ready to be used to explain why Aldo/Mendes won’t draw flies this weekend. It can’t just be because nobody cares about the lighter weight classes? Oh, and Aldo better bring back his WEC version of himself or else he’ll quickly be headlining TUF finale cards…
by Shnak on Jan 12, 2012 11:09 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Because nobody cares about lighter weight classes in combat sports.
Oh wait…
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
No need for an "oh wait ", u were right the first time, no one cares. Unless that was “oh wait, I forgot to grab the meatloaf out of the oven!” or something.
by Hutchy on Jan 12, 2012 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
The two most popular combat sport athletes in the world
Fight at 147 homie.
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure CM Punk and John Cena weigh a more than a buck fifty
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by menckenstein on Jan 12, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
hahaha
That is a great fucking picture.
I remember when Booker T came back and the RR, Botchamania found a sign that said “Wrestlemania, We Comin’ for You N****” That was a great sign too
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
147 isn’t a lighter weight. Welterweight is one of the most storied divisions in combat sports history, home of The Sugar Rays and the current biggest stars in boxing. Just as WW isn’t considered a lighter wright on the UFC. I’m speaking of 145 and lower in the UFC and 130 and lower in boxing. The evidence thSt no one cares about these divisions is overwhelming.
by Hutchy on Jan 12, 2012 12:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That makes no sense. Featherweight is MMA’s equivalent to welterweight whether you like it or not.
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
No it’s nOt. Featherweight is the equivalent of the UFC s featherweight. Let me ask u sOmething: if u polled any random hooters crowd on how much mike brown weighs, how many could give an accurate answer? ur making a typical hardcore fan mistake: thinking everyone knows as much as u do. 147, 170, these numbers mean jack shit to 70% of fans. The WW championship of the world? Different story
by Hutchy on Jan 12, 2012 2:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ask a random person what title Pac or May holds.
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
That's incredibly silly
Whether you call 147 welterweight, featherweight, flyweight or cruiserweight it’s still 147 lbs.
And while boxing’s 147 lb division has been around for decades, it was just instituted in the UFC what? like a year ago? Of course it’s not going to be exploding in popularity. Give it a few years and a chance to develop as a division. The same thing was said about 155 10 years ago.
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by Genki Sudo's Choreographer on Jan 12, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
So the only conclusion that I can come to is that MMA fans aren't as intelligent as boxing fans
For wanting to watch really bad heavyweight fights.
I guess there is no accounting for taste, considering welterweight and lightweight are the most exciting and stacked divisions in MMA.
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
I think it’s the KO rates more than the weight class:
Lightweight
22.8%
Welterweight
34.5%
Middleweight
37.7%
Light Heavyweight
41.9%
Heavyweight
60.5%
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LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
During most heavyweight fights
The KO is more like a mercy killing than a crowd pleaser.
And of course Lightweights are going to finish less. They are consistently fighting better competition.
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Meh, watching 125, 135, 145 guys is like watching 12 year old kids fighting… something’s just odd about it. Just like WMMA, but that’s another subject altogether. It’s still MMA, and I’ll still watch it because of that, but I clearly prefer 155 and over.
I don't get were your coming from
Most guys at 145 are average to normal heights. George Roop and Hatsu Hioki are tall enough to be point guards in the NBA. Cruz is around the average height for a male, while the other guys at 135 and 125 are just people on the shorter end of the spectrum.
But whatever floats your boat. I don’t care if no one ordered Maynard/Edgar III, because at the end of the day it was an amazing card. If they would rather watch heavyweight MMA, there’s not accounting for taste I guess.
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
These lighter guys are either tall and skinny (skin and bones skinny) or shorter than average. Either way, there’s just something odd to watching them fight, less impressive. There’s just something about watching a big guy fall to the floor after being KO’d. That’s impressive. Watching stickmen fight isn’t.
by Shnak on Jan 12, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Skinny or in shape?
Cause there is a difference.
Sure Struve falling to the floor in epic fashion is impressive, but watching heavyweight MMA historically is awful. Like I said before, the big KO is more like a mercy killing a majority of the time.
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Why is Tebow a national sensation? Like… whats the deal?
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by Our Bovine Public on Jan 12, 2012 11:10 AM EST reply actions
You either love him or you hate him
You think hes going to be a great QB or the worst ever. There is no in between on him, the most polarizing guy to hit sports in a while
He can be an average QB and still be considered a failure. The hype and expectations are insanely high for him
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He's playing at a level right now where you can argue both ways
From a terrible game at the Chiefs to a spectacular game at Pittsburgh
I wouldn't call that Pitt game spectacular
I believe he’s the first QB in a decade to complete 10 or less passes and win a playoff game. That and Pitt played him so incredibly awful that they kept giving up the long ball to the left side of the offense (the one type of pass he IS good at) that they really deserved to lose due to their poor scheming.
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
I look at the way defenses that weren't hobbled played him
They didn’t have Clark, Keisel and someone else who’s name escapes me. Hampton? There’s a lot of reasons why Denver won last weekend and Tebow making the passes that mattered are certainly part of it. I think a huge share of the reason goes to Pitt’s defense as well as their injuries
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Clark being out was huge, but if you’re going to run man to man then PUT A SAFTEY BACK.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
Every time but once they ran that set with a receiver in motion it was a run, and the safety cheated up toward the line before realizing way too late that it was a pass…the CB gave him a clean release and was clearly expecting inside help even if there wasn’t any help over the top.
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Injuries are hurting every team by this time of year
Packers made their run with over 10 guys on the IR
The difference is that they were all backups or people hurt earlier in the year
Allowing the new guys to get playing time. There wasn’t a single one like Clark or Mendenhall who played all year and were suddenly unavailable. Rodgers wasn’t hurt, Roethlesberger was. Grant played one game in 2010. Barnett played in 4, same with Burnett. Finley was gone in week 5. Keisel and Hampton (?) were injured during the game.
Huge difference
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Doesnt change the fact that injuries had effected them
as they do every team by this time of year. Were you unlucky to get your starting rb and qb injured? Yeah but you cant discount from Tebow because you had guys hurt. Bookies knew the injury report and the steelers were still a touchdown favorite
Because they were a better team
Still are despite the loss. Are you purposely ignoring the two dudes they lost in the game? Or the terrible way they gameplanned against Tebow all game?
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Broncos lost their best receiver of the season during the game also
Not to mention Dawkins was sitting out. Like I said injuries happen to everybody. Crying about injuries after you lose a game you were supposed to win anyway isnt fair to the team that beat you fair and square. Excuses are like assholes…
I'm not a Pittsburgh fan
So don’t lump “me” in this. “My” team is playing fantastic ball and looks great on both sides of the ball with a real quarterback.
Denver is a decent team hamstrung by bad quarterback play all year. They’d have ran away with that awful division instead of losing the last 3 in a row and still winning it if they had Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Stafford, etc. etc. etc. Hell, give them Flacco, Newton, Dalton or a healthy Cutler or Roethlesberger and they win at least 2 or 3 more games this year.
Pitt went into that game with a gameplan that ignored the few passing strengths that Tebow has – passes well to the left and throws a decent deep ball. They lost due to that, and a huge number of injuries to a ton of players that left them playing backups with little to no preparation time.
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
"My" team is playing fantastic ball and looks great on both sides of the ball with a real quarterback.
So you are a fellow Texans fan I see…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHA
no
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Well,
the 49ers and Ravens are the only other possibilities…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Saints have a respectable D, with an elite DC, so that’s another one…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
kepp on trollololin
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
I was actually being serious...
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I don't believe you for a second
either that or you’re the most ignorant football fan I’ve seen in some time.
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Ha!
Hmm…who could I be overlooking…sorry, I must be the most ignorant fan you’ve seen…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Start with the team that's playing great defense and has a top5 offense
they won 24-2 last week
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
The only team that fits that 24-2 criteria is the Giants,
but they have a -6 scoring differential, so that can’t be who you are talking about…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
ask Romo, Sanchez and Ryan how the Giants D is these days
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
In all seriousness,
they seem to be coming together at the right time. Eli might be the best Manning QB when it counts the most, and JPP and Cruz are turning into elite players…
Like us, y’all are kind of flying under the radar a bit…of course, Eli>>>TJ…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Oddly enough,
the Texans, with rook TJ would likely fare better against the Packers or especially the Patriots than against Baltimore, SF or perhaps your NYG and the Saints because of the defensive deficiencies…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
negative
The best team won the game
Fortunately, this is sports, so being the better team doesn’t actually mean a hill of beans.
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
one of them, certainly
I’ll still chant 18-1 at pat’s fans tho. That team was ridiculously good.
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
They are an all-time great team
but they were the second best team of 2007 due to losing the big game
If you're arguing that the 2007 Giants were the greatest team in history
I’m ok with that
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Pittsburg is getting old too,
always going to have more injuries in that case…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
True...look at the Texans...
Losing so many of their best players for extended periods. Missed Foster for the first 3 games, Mario and Andre for at least 9 each, Schaub, Leinart, Manning for a month or so…
JJ, Cush, Meyers and Duane are the only top guys not to miss extended time it seems…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
At some point, there has to be a reason why team after team brainlocks when playing them, it’s not possible that it’s ALL coincidence…..could it be…..Jesus?!?!?
by Hutchy on Jan 12, 2012 11:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
so Kyle Orton and the Chefs
are immune to jeebus? And Buffalo? Detroit?
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Thank you.
Pittsburgh went in there cocky and looked like ass. I love how Tebowphiles forget to mention the three previous games before that one.
Like hell they were. If Denver lost to Pittsburgh, Tebow was done as a starter. And KC was a division game.
Yea, no kidding
If you think that Orton didn’t want to go into Denver and pull out a win, I dunno what delusions to feed ya
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
I shouldn't have said meaningless
But in retrospect they did not have any affect on much. If Oakland had pulled out the division those games would be all people are talking about. But they won the division and Tebow remained the starter, so no harm no foul.
Still hard to believe that LeBeau of all people
didn’t plan it better initially or adjust more quickly…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Because he's the answer to that terrible "what if Michael Vick was white" article that ESPN pooped out a while ago
Except nobody realizes it, so they’re all racist.
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by menckenstein on Jan 12, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Jesus helps him win.
Apparently, Christ taught Tebow one hell of a 40-yard dash.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Jan 12, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
here’s the deal.
it’s pretty damn funny.
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by Victor Rodriguez on Jan 12, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
I'm predicting 200 to 250...
…comments in the live thread during the PPV that mention Tebow in some way.
Football bores me to no end
It seems every year, there are more and more commerical breaks. Its feeling far to coorporate for me to care about anymore.
I’ll definatly be watching the PPV. MMA > Football in my mind.
All the good parts of the game will be shown on the highlights for the next few days anyways.
But I agree, football is going to hurt the PPV no matter what. And I think it would hurt it without Tebow.
Sheeeeeeeee-it
by Clay Davis on Jan 12, 2012 11:10 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
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no doubt the game on saturday will hurt ufc's ppv
come on, the ufc cannot compete with a major sporting event such as playoff nfl
Yes it will hurt them. in the US, football>UFC by a mile
that being said, I live in canada so I’ll be watching the UFC lol
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
I’m picturing some huge fatty waddlingdiwn the sidewalk being like “I’m comingto save the day!” as she double fists two foot long cheesesteaks
by Hutchy on Jan 12, 2012 11:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That is not a BBW son
That’s just gross.
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I can't even imagine it.
I’d be scarred for like if I saw a BBW waddlingdiwning a sidewalk.
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Never go on match.com, Menck. They have some very liberal standards for what qualifies as a BBW on there .
by Hutchy on Jan 12, 2012 12:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
"I didn't mean to deceive you, I thought it meant Bloated Bulbous Whale."
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Jan 12, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
As long as they don't sit on you?
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Damn it, is there no escape to this madness!?
I get enough of Tebow for twenty minutes every time I watch Sportscenter. He’s a good story and all, but when he’s invading my MMA it’s gone too far.
Please Tom Brady, end this nightmare.
Yea I can't recall the last time I was rooting for New England
However, I wouldn’t be too upset if Tebow trolls Brady and Billicheat for a win
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, I'd love for Tebow to win.
Like I already said, he makes for a great story. The only reason Tebow gets hate, other than he’s a shitty quarterback – which makes the good story because he wins, is because the media gives him far too much coverage.
I mean, it’s a shame when this game gets more coverage when the Patriots already beat them by 30+ points than a game between the Super Bowl champions the past two seasons, with their previous meeting coming down to four points and being decided in the final minute.
by Marquis Brown on Jan 12, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
30+ points? When did that happen
They lost by 18 in a game that was a lot closer in reality than the score leads one to believe because of the turnovers.
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Elway sucked as a young QB, but he was a winner whose team believed in him. After Tebow’s 80 yard bomb to beat the Steelers and his other late game wins this year, he’s going to get a lot of the same belief.
You mean the 30 yard pass that the receiver took the rest of the way
after a fantastic stiff arm? yea.
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
"He's a winner"
….And so were Craig Krenzel and Greg McIlroy, what is the meaning of this term?
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by SSreporters on Jan 12, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Elway
has to be the most over-rated of the HoF QBs…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a hardcore and although I’ll order 142 I’ll probably watch the Bronco’s game live.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
The Saints game. I know it’s gonna be great right. Can’t wait!
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
thats right
just pretend it never happened.
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
I have no clue what you’re talking about Baiterman.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
mhmmmmmmmmm
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
haha
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by merryprankster on Jan 12, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Thats an upset just waiting to happen.
That field will be muddy and slick which will slow the saints down to the type of game that the 49ers like to play
It’ll be a good game. The line should be a little closer.
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If it was in the Superdome yall would run away with it
but it will be close with the Saints traveling to the west coast and the bad field
That field will be muddy and slick which will slow the saints down to the type of game that the 49ers like to play
Only way that happens is if they pull a Bull Durham-esque rain-out with the sprinklers…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder what the rules are about that, any idea?
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Not a clue
But its home field advantage, as long as the field is playable i think its within the rules
Are they overwatering the field?
They haven’t had rain in northern california in 2 months
I know candlestick has a shitty surface, but it should be pretty good on saturday
THIS. That was the worst national championship game ever.
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by T.C. Engel on Jan 12, 2012 11:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
His craptastic numbers against Alabama
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by MattParker117 on Jan 12, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Another factor that could bring the numbers down – the 30,000 that registered to watch UFC 141 free on Xbox Live will get this card for free after they failed to have it working for the last event.
Shit, that's a good point.
Aldo/Mendes card isn’t getting a fair shake being put up against football AND free PPV viewing.
Unless it craps out again.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Jan 12, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
F*ck Florida and every single person that ever played there
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by warren305 on Jan 12, 2012 11:22 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Co-sign
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
Lol and bama while you are at it…I’m from Lafayette and I love Florida and Tebow…btw UL only school in Louisiana to win a bowl…just saying
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Who ees thees Tebow?
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Who ees thees Tebow?
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Actually I hope that the Giants beat the Packers and the Patriots whip up on the Broncos
Super Bowl XLI is probably the greatest football game I’ve ever watched (of course I’m bias because I’m a Giants fan).
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 11:36 AM EST reply actions
Lightweights aren't compelling entertainment...
sorry, there’s no way to sugarcoat it. Tebow is a nice try for an excuse though.
The WEC
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by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
… and nobody watched it, and Zuffa finally decided to pull the plug on it after years of losing money, or not making enough to their liking.
It was also on Versus
Dude, Versus.
It’s not like I even care if people watched the WEC or not. It was still probably the most exciting promotion ever, so as long as I enjoyed it I really could give less of a shit.
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
What’s crazy is that WEC 48 actually might have a chance to beat UFC 142’s buyrate.
by Machiel Van on Jan 12, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
It’s only true to a certain extent… the UFC could bring back Khalib Starnes and headline a card with him versus Leites and it’d sell 200k because it’s still a UFC event… but to sell better, it needs big name guys people want to watch. Aldo isn’t that guy so far, mostly because he hasn’t impressed anyone with his performances in the UFC so far, and also because he’s Brazilian and doesn’t speak a single word of english.
Just because it had low ratings doesn’t mean it wasn’t thoroughly entertaining
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by Machiel Van on Jan 12, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but this is the UFC, which has consistently put on awful and unexciting LW fights
Like Guida-Huerta, Edgar-Maynard II and III, Guida- Henderson, Penn-Stevenson, Penn-Sherk, Guida-Griffin, Diaz-Cerrone, Lauzon-Ruediger, Njokuani-Barboza, Njokuani-Horodecki, and so many others… Just dogs, all of them, and boring all the time. I won’t even go into how insanely boring lightweights are outside of the UFC, but just look at Alvarez-Chandler for how they are worse than paint drying!
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by Enmascarado on Jan 12, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Edgar-Griffin, Huerta-Garcia, and Guida-Sanchez also sucked.
by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
i'll be surprised if this card sells over 250,000 PPV buys
UFC 134 was a much better card, but because the card was held outside of north America it only sold for 335,000 buys.
This card is just a perfect storm of low PPV numbers.
1) Card is headlined by unknown Jose Aldo fighting unknown Chad Mendes
2) the Card is being held outside the US and Canada which historically has meant fewer PPV buys
3) the card is going up against Tebow and the NFL playoffs
It was going to do poor anyways...
I think where it will hurt it is the bars that show it. One thing I think people underate UFC buys are the casual fans that might be out at a bar for another reason and the UFC is dominating the TVs. However, I think there is going to be people coming to watch the NFL game dominating the bars and the UFC, especially one with low casual interest, will be relegated to fewer TVs.
Something's amiss
There appears to be talk of Football on my favorite MMA website.
This event was ALWAYS going to have a crappy buyrate. It’s a foreign card, which does worse, it’s headlined by the 145 title, which does worse, and it’s a card sandwiched between two really great PPVs, those do worse.
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This is going to hurt my hardcore cred (to the extent that I had any)
but I’m watching football. That Steelers-Broncos game was absolutely bonkers, and this card is not exactly turning me on at a $60 price point. The fact that I had a less than stellar outing at the craps tables in Vegas this past week is icing on the cake. Free sports it is. Good luck my Cecil Peoples Champs brethren.
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uh
you can watch the UFC for free ya know
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
I loathe bars
and I’ve never been one for streams. If I’m watching a UFC PPV, I’m paying for it, sadly.
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by Dave Strummer on Jan 12, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
What are the odds
any of the normal bars are going to have the UFC on instead of the game?
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I’m thinking that the closet bar that’ll be playing UFC 142 will be somewhere in Canada.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
I think you are right
They still calling for Les’ head down there? That Hebert presser “question” still cracks me up…and he has a kid on the team! “Do you have a question?”
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
What? My fanpost? I’m glad you liked it.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
I just meant about your comment, then was wondering if there was still outrage in La about the whole thing…and given Bobby props for that presser comment/speech…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
I know what you meant. Let’s just say today was the first day that I’ve been able to hold down a meal since that night.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
I kind of hope this lives on in infamy
Like I can yell WIDE RIGHT around Bills fans and they involuntary twitch and look like they just got punched in the gut.
I will test this theory in a few weeks by yelling JARRET LEE to the nearest LSU fan
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Try 'JEFFERSON'
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
You don’t have to do that. My face has a permanent cringe on it now. I used to be such a happy person…
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU! LSU!
The utter depths of the love/hate, despise/covet relationship LSU fans have with Saban is going to lead to a new disorder being added to the DSM…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
This card was doomed from the get go there’s really not many names on this card that people will reconize besides vitor. I ll be watching this over football but I don’t even think this card gets over 175 mark
by youfailme91 on Jan 12, 2012 12:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
WTF is so big about Tim Tebow?
I don’t follow football or any other sports really other than MMA and Golf. But this Tebow fellow has invaded my tech podcasts my MMA podcasts gaming podcasts WHATS SO GREAT ABOUT HIM.
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing. Am I'm being real.
The media has chosen him and the rest of us suffer. Some will tell you it’s his character. They’re are plenty of high character guys in the league. Some will tell you it’s his faith. There are many faithful in the league. And when it comes to his QB skills? No. Just no. His team actually went on a VERY flukey run of six consecutive wins and made into the playoffs and he received entirely too much credit for it. If you stumble across any one that doesn’t like him, they actually probably are just tired of his over-coverage, which is severe.
Golf and MMA?
Golf? I bet you’re a Fitch fan.
Kidding. Just an interesting combo.
I'd rather be trollin'.
It was doomed to fail because they decided to go against the NFL playoffs
Something I don’t think they have ever done as a Zuffa org.
Tebow being in the game doesn’t make nearly as large a difference as people think. Pittsburgh/New England would’ve been hyped pretty highly, too.
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by merryprankster on Jan 12, 2012 12:31 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
whats this guys name I gotta google him... I never watch history channel BUT every time I see this dude in a post he looks so bat shit crazy I just might start.
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Is that the weird little gobliny military historian who is now a woman?
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by menckenstein on Jan 12, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Ancient Aliens FTW
Rogan had him on a podcast a while back.
I watch Ancient Aliens more for the guys they interview than the actual alien stuff. It’s amazing what some of these guys say with such conviction.
I’m not saying I believe Aliens came down and gave ancient man the technology to build the pyramids, but I’m not not saying it either.
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by merryprankster on Jan 12, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I will watch both
I DVR the fx prelims order the ppv then DVR it. Then watch the game live and after it start your ufc night. Just stay off the internet. I do it all the time with baseball hockey and b-ball games that are on the same night as a ufc show.
by biggant on Jan 12, 2012 12:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I will watch both
I DVR the fx prelims order the ppv then DVR it. Then watch the game live and after it start your ufc night. Just stay off the internet. I do it all the time with baseball hockey and b-ball games that are on the same night as a ufc show.
by biggant on Jan 12, 2012 12:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Chad Mendes will hurt UFC 142 PPV performances. As i have no idea who he is and I read MMA blogs almost daily.
I highly doubt that
There’s been scores of articles about Mendes over the past year or two.
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
And for some reason, I’m never compelled to click on a single article about Mendes. I just don’t care for the guy, for whatever reason.
oh he's not the most exciting guy to watch, certainly
I’m not enthralled by him either, but I certainly know who he is
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 12, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Not enough, obviously
I read MMA blogs almost daily.
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I don’t care what else is on tv, I’m not spending $50 on this card.
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by frosty31 on Jan 12, 2012 12:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Tebow 316 (yards)…
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Stone cold said If he throws for another 316, he can have the 3:16...Hence Tebow 3:16.
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How awesome would it be
if the Pats won 31-6?
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by merryprankster on Jan 12, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
What's with the featherweight hate?
My friends and I all prefer the lighter weight classes. Much more exciting fights. Lots of action. The most stacked division (LW) and lots of stuff going on with the new FW BW and FlyW divisions.
The only insight I’ve seen was when I was watching 137 at my uncle’s house, and one of his friends came to watch. The guy was drunk and loud, and kept alternating between telling the fighters on the TV how they SHOULD be punching, and saying “I COULD KICK BOTH THEIR ASSES THEY’RE SO TINY!” Does a good fight no longer qualify as a good fight if you weigh more than the people fighting?
I'd rather be trollin'.
Your uncle's friend should tell that to the guy who got his ass kicked by Roger Huerta...
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by The American Ronin on Jan 12, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Dana White will be secretly watching
his Patriots & trying hard not to tweet about it.
by fallenidol2012 on Jan 12, 2012 1:44 PM EST via Android app reply actions
The media is also speculating about future dating between Tebow and Katy Perry.
I don’t need any more reasons to hate this guy!!!
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Good question
I never order the cards but I also never miss them (I seriously have not missed a card since about 2005). That being said, there’s no way I’m missing Tebow in the playoffs. I’ll be watching the game, the fights, and the Red Bull Crashed event (hosted here in St. Paul) at either a) a bar or b) a friend’s house. The beauty is most people that order PPVs also have DVRs which would allow them to order the PPV, record the beginning while watching the game. That’s what I’d do.
I do the same thing dvr's fucking rule!
by biggant on Jan 12, 2012 2:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It will definitely have an effect.
Actually I need to make sure the place I’m planning on going is showing the UFC over the Denver Tebows game…
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tim tebow is a man i really dont care about but im not like everyone else hating him because he’s better than you TRUTH i honestly dont care though because bottom line DENVER ISNT BEATING THE PATRIOTS END OF STORY
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170k PPV buys.
After being shocked at how poorly 136 did (which was a card I gladly purchased)
This card is gonna bomb. If if NFL playoffs wern’t on, and Tebow never existed it would still do worse than 136.
It’s a fact that the bulk of PPV buyers buy based on name value. Most probably barely know who Aldo is and haven’t the faintest clue who Mendes is.
I won’t be buying this one because there’s no way I’ll be able to convince my friends (esp the casual fans) to chip in for this card.
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by Psychic Octopus on Jan 12, 2012 2:27 PM EST reply actions
ONCE TEBOW WINS THE SUPERBOWL AND ASCENDS TO THE HEAVENS WHILST TEBOWING AND TAKES ALL OF US FAITHFUL FOLLOWERS, YOU HEATHENS SHALL BE LEFT BEHIND TO SUFFER!!!!
by Afrotikiman on Jan 12, 2012 2:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Also people have to stop bitching about how no one cares about FW and BW
When they’re buried on the prelims. Of course no one is going to care, only the hardcores stream facebook fights and such.
I don't even care about nfl
I only watch the superbowl, and its usually just backround noise to me, but I’ll watch this game just to see what Tebow is all about cause I’ve only seen highlights.
Should be a good saturday. Leafs vs Rangers at 7, interesting nfl game at 8 and ufc at 10
yeah... i'll be watching free football
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by ElliotMatheny on Jan 12, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
The game will hurt some but
The biggest two things that will hurt this PPV is a lack luster card and the UFC over saturating the market with this being the 3rd PPV in 35 days. I don’t plan on watching this because I’m not very interested in the card and I am just outright burned out on the UFC right now. I will see the Dana White and the UFC Feb. 4th.
by San Jose Sharks Fan on Jan 12, 2012 6:20 PM EST reply actions
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