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The History Behind Aldo vs Mendes

"You have to know the past to understand the present." ~ Carl Sagan

Leading up to Saturday's main event in Brazil, I have been thinking a lot about the possible long-term futures of the 145, 135 and 125 divisions. They're all still very new to the UFC, and new to many casual fans. After focusing so much on potential outcomes and hypotheticals, I realized I didn't know enough as I'd like about the pasts of either headliner. Below is not a true statistical breakdown or metrics report, but rather a look back at each fighter's MMA careers and how their history can help us predict the future of 145. I'll draw minimal conclusions, and leave it up to you to read into the numbers.

Stats and records all in accordance with Fightmetric and Sherdog's Fight Finder.

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Records and notable wins:

Aldo - 20-1 (12 KO, 2 Sub, 6 Dec) - 5 title fights (Wins over 2 WEC former champions, 1 TUF winner)

Mendes - 11-0 (2 KO, 2 Sub, 7 Dec) - gave Erik Koch his only loss

Please note that Fightmetric only has data from Zuffa Organized fights. This Includes Aldo's last 10, and Mendes' last 6.

Significant Strikes Landed per Minute:

Aldo - 3.61

Mendes - 2.12

Striking Accuracy:

Aldo - 49%

Mendes - 47%

Significant Strikes Absorbed per Minute:

Aldo - 1.77

Mendes - 1.1

Striking Defense:

Aldo - 72%

Mendes - 74%

Takedowns Landed per 15 Min:

Aldo - 0.80

Mendes - 5.25

TD Accuracy:

Aldo - 60%

Mendes - 68%

TD Defense:

Aldo - 94% (damn!)

Mendes - 100% (DAMN!)

I divided strength of opponent percentage into two separate categories (opponent record before Aldo/Mendes matchup, and after)

Strength of opposition (before their meeting)

Aldo - 195-61-5 (75%)

Mendes - 115-49-1 (70%)

Strength of opposition (after they fought)

Aldo - 61-68-2 (47%)

Mendes - 18-21 (46%)

There's been a lot of talk recently about how GSP's defeated opponents go on slides after facing him, or even how their bad losses 'expose' the champion (see Dan Hardy, Jake Shields). There's a pretty significant drop in win % for the opponents of Aldo and Mendes too. Does Mark Hominick's starching at the hands of the Korean Zombie 'expose' Aldo? or is it simply the high-level talent at the top of each division?

Let's do some brief MMAth. I don't personally put a ton of stock into comparing common opponents, but let's look into it since it's brief.

Common opponent: Cub Swanson (Aldo 8 second KO, Mendes Majority Decision)

Details on Mendes v Swanson -

rd1: Mendes tagged Swanson with heavy shots, grabbed some takedowns, got stood up, hit some takedowns. Swanson lands some strikes from guard

rd2: Mostly even standup, mendes takedowns, swanson choke attempt

rd3: mendes smothering takedowns, swanson omoplata attempt, desperation strikes from swanson, Mendes ends the fight on top. Bout was scored 30-27, 29-28, 29-29

You could say these two fights against Swanson were fought from two totally different styles, with each being clearly dominant (except to the 1 judge who scored a Mendes/Swanson draw). I wouldn't mind seeing a Swanson-Aldo rematch for entertainment's sake, but it might never happen.

Who are the best fighters they've fought?

Aldo - Urijah Faber, Kenny Florian (kenny was 1 for 19 on TDs), Faber was 0 of 9

Mendes - Erik Koch (lots of takedowns, good control, Mendes was badly cut by a headkick)

Number of people who had their first loss via TKO to Aldo - 8 (Mario Bigola, Anderson Silverio, Phil Harris, Micky Young, Jonathan Brookins, Rolando Perez, Cub Swanson and Mike Brown).

This number is interesting because it shows how Aldo was able to tag previously untouchable opponents. However, Mario Bigola fought Aldo once, in both of their debuts and then never fought anyone again. He lost by head kick at :18 seconds. Aldo has fought two men who never returned to the ring (the other is Luiz de Paula - who was defeated by Arm-Triangle Choke at 1:54). Impressive finishing techniques? Sure. Impressive opponents? No way.

Hometown fights are not a guaranteed win. You could even argue it adds unnecessary pressure. We're more accustomed to seeing Aldo as the "visiting team" (see Faber and Hominick fights)

Just for shits, lets talk music:

Mendes - the O'Jays - "For the Love of Money"

Aldo - Jay-Z Featuring Rihanna+ Kanye West - "Run this Town"

Gotta give this one to Mendes; it's simply a better song. Moving on...

Mendes has fought in California, Ohio, Nevada, Pennsylvania (2 Time Zones, both within U.S.)

Aldo has fought in Brazil, England, Japan, California, Florida, Texas, Colorado, Toronto (7 Time Zones, 5 Countries)

It will be interesting to see if Mendes reacts negatively to the travel and experience of fighting in front of a partisan Brazilian crowd. I don't think Mendes has one glaring weakness to speak of, which is why he's still undefeated. He's an incredible wrestler, with great conditioning and good all around defense, meaning he's hard to submit, and hard to hit. Aldo almost never gets taken down, and has standup that's technically unmatched at 145. A recent poll on Sherdog.com asked, "which UFC champion is least likely to lose possession of his title in 2012?" …Aldo tied for last. This gets me thinking about the future again.

Is Aldo the weakest champion in the UFC? Will he continue his reign at 145 and eventually move to 155? Does Mendes win and become a marketable (and english-speaking) face for the UFC? Superfights at 145 would probably be out the window in that case, as Mendes takes on fresh challengers like the Korean Zombie, Hatsu Hioki, Dustin Poirier and Diego Nunes.

Looking at the history, these two are closer matched than I had previously thought. Aldo has power, defense, speed and experience though this is far from a guaranteed win. He's fought the elite, and headlined events in the past, but Mendes has the tools to compete. Aldo's been all over the globe and sent champions packing, but Mendes has nothing to lose, and has nearly never been in danger of losing a round. Given their ages, both of these guys will probably be around for awhile, and no matter the outcome Saturday I'm pumped for the future of 145.


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This is awesome

I’ll raise your Carl Sagan with some Faulkner: “The past is never dead. It’s not even past.”

That said, I really enjoyed this. I have a hard time believing Aldo will be beaten at 145; if he does eventually lose, I think it’ll be because of the increasingly strenuous weight cut.

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by Patrick Wyman on Jan 11, 2012 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

Good stuff. One aspect of this that isn’t getting a lot of attention is the fact that very few fighters have received as much hype as Mendes got prior to their first fight in a major promotion. Before Mendes made his WEC debut, Sherdog was doing video features on him and people were hyping him as a future champ and the man to beat Aldo. If Mendes was spectacular (instead of merely solid) in his title run, a huge amount of hype would have built up over the past two years, but instead this is being looked at as just another Aldo defense.

by Jahbulon on Jan 11, 2012 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

Good Write up

This fight comes down to the same thing Brock vs Overeem came down to, can Mendes land the takedown early and often?
If he can’t land a takedown in the first round he is in trouble, I personally think Mendes can take Aldo down and may grind out a boring decision. Hopefully Aldo can keep it on the feet.
Mendes has more controlling wrestling than Florian and Faber did imo

by TheBirdsDen on Jan 11, 2012 10:54 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Mendez’s stand up is far superior to Lesnars.

by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

agree with his overall stand up

but I still think just like in the Brock – Overeem fight, Mendes has to get this to the ground, he doesn’t win this standing with Aldo. He must get the takedown imo.

by TheBirdsDen on Jan 12, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously

But it’s not like he is a fish out of the water on his feet. Mendez has good striking, its just that he is not confident enough to strike with guys more.

by discoandherpes on Jan 13, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

For some reason...I think I'm feeling Chad Mendes for the W

"You got Floyd Mayweather making 25 million dollars...he can't stop the double leg." - Nick Diaz

by Chris Groves on Jan 12, 2012 10:26 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I can see the logical

He has the skill set necessary. I just don’t think he can pour it on Aldo like he needs to in order to win.

by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't expect it

realistically…it’s just one of those feelings I’m getting, and half the time they are wrong. So we’ll see.

"You got Floyd Mayweather making 25 million dollars...he can't stop the double leg." - Nick Diaz

by Chris Groves on Jan 12, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

You know, at first I started researching all this purely as a die hard Aldo fan who was curious about his early opponents, but after I started looking into Mendes’ career it became clear he’s no pushover. Your gut feeling might not be so far off.

by CBrey on Jan 12, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Mendes is a bigger threat than Florian and Hominick were

Mendes beating the sh*t out of Omigiwa was a really big win in that division. At first people just took it as, oh Japanese MMA is dead as usual. In reality Omigiwa (a good fighter) just got dominated by Mendes.

by TheBirdsDen on Jan 12, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

wrestlers wrestle

and undefeated wrestlers wrestle well enough to win 4 of 5 rounds

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by Ben Bauman on Jan 12, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Against Aldo?

Aldo might just kick out that leg and Mendez will be stuck on his feet.

by discoandherpes on Jan 12, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Solid breakdown

It will be interesting to see if Aldo’s TDD stands up to Mendes’ wrestling which is far superior to that of any of Aldo’s previous opponents. Mendes is on a much higher level than Florian as far as MMA wrestling goes.

If Mendes can plant Aldo on his back, I can see him pulling this one out, but if Aldo keeps the fight standing and damages Mendes in clinch breaks, it could be a short night for “Money.”

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by Matthew Goldstein on Jan 12, 2012 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

Goldstein nailed it lol

There also seems to be a trend of high level wrestlers failing at the highest levels due to non wrestlers improving their takedown defense.

Mendes even set up a couple of his shots with strikes and STILL couldn’t get the takedown. Aldo’s cage grab has to be referenced for the sake of honesty but seeing how quickly he was able to get back up kind and how he was able to fend of other takedowns leads me to believe Chads chances of taking and keeping Aldo down for a full 25 mins were slim to none.

If Mendes can plant Aldo on his back, I can see him pulling this one out, but if Aldo keeps the fight standing and damages Mendes in clinch breaks, it could be a short night for "Money

Eerily correct lol

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by The Blackula on Jan 15, 2012 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

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