History of Jiu Jitsu: The Jaws of Jacare
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A champion on the mats as well as in the cage, there are few as accomplished in martial arts as Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza. Blessed with phenomenal athletic talent and then paired with a blue collar work ethic and mental fortitude, Souza has complied one of the greatest grappling careers ever.
Souza had a hard childhood, growing up in a dangerous slum. His mental release from the extreme poverty and gang violence was the most common among young men in Brazil; he played soccer. Even then his lifestyle was teetering on the brink of falling into the trap of gangs and drugs. But then on his 15th birthday Souza had one of his closest friends gunned down right in front of him.
After that Souza’s mother moved the family to Manaus in the Amazon to get Souza away from the gangs and it was there he discovered Jiu-Jitsu.
Henrique Machado, a double black belt in Brazilin Jiu-Jitsu and Judo, saw Souza playing soccer in town. Souza’s athletic gifts were obvious to Machado and he invited Souza to train at his academy. After his first class Souza declared he didn’t like the martial art, saying it was too much 'man-hugging' for his taste. But after he received a sound beating in his first sparring match a competitive fire lit in him and "Jacare" was born.
Souza's nickname of "Jacare", which is the name of a species of crocodile that inhabits Brazil, was given to him for his aggressiveness and explosiveness on the mats. His physical ability allowed him to quickly learn both Jiu-Jitsu and Judo under Machado. Jacare dominated on the state level in Brazil and became a rising star but was unable to compete at the highest levels because of his lack of wealth.
Machado’s academy, called "Associação Sensei de Lutas Esportivas" (Sensei Fighting Sports Association) or ASLE, was a stand-alone academy and didn’t have the funds to send Souza around the world competition. They sought any aide they could and as a result Jacare has competed under several different banners over the course of his career. But no matter the logo on the gi, it has always been Henrique Machado standing beside Jacare.
In 2001, Souza competed with Equipe III as a purple belt at the Mundials and he won both the Medio weight class and Absolutes. In 2002, ASLE secured a Gracie-Barra endorsement to send Souza to compete at Mundials as a brown belt. Jacare submitted every opponent he faced until the final of the Absolutes, there he met Roger Gracie. Roger defeated Jacare for the gold and a rivalry was born.
When Team Master was formed in 2003, it was marketed towards small up-and-coming teams and ASLE was quick to join. And after his twin gold medals at the brown belt level, Jacare received both his black belt in Jiu-Jitsu and Judo.
After receiving his black belt Souza tried his hand at MMA, taking a fight at Jungle Fight 1 against Jorge Patino. Souza lost via KO and while this loss put off the launching of his MMA career, his natural abilities and budding skills were obvious. In fact it was his confidence in his growing striking skills that proved his downfall, as Jacare did not attempt a single takedown opting to instead box with Patino.
In 2003, Jacare also entered into his first ADCCs. Jacare defeated Ryan Gracie in the first round and then Matt Linland in the semi-finals but had to settle for silver after being defeated by Saulo Ribeiro. Despite coming up just short of gold it was an impressive showing for a new black belt.
In early 2004, still representing Team Master, Jacare entered his first Pan Ams as a black belt. There in the finals Jacare met Gracie-Barra stand out Braulio Estima. Like Jacare, Estima was in his first Pan Ams as a black belt and was fresh off a bronze medal under Jacare and Drysdale at the 2003 Brown Belt Mundials.
Jacare won in an exciting match via armbar off the triangle attempt, winning his first major championship as a black belt. Later that year Team Master dissolved as a team and the remainders formed team Brasa, which Jacare then joined.
Jacare entered the 2004 Mundials as a rising sensation and he cut a path to the finals in the Medium-Heavy division where he again he met Braulio Estima. This time Braulio got the better of Souza and it became the first championship in Braulio’s storied career.
Souza also made it to the final of the Absolutes and there he again met Roger Gracie in a match that would become an all-time classic.
At the start of the match the two lock horns, Roger aware of Jacare’s amazing Judo technique wisely pulls guard to avoid a takedown. After a reset in the center of the mat, Roger plays full guard against Jacare and shoots for a triangle and as Jacare postures out attempts to transition to an armbar. Jacare, however, is ready and is able to slip away and begin to pass Roger’s guard. Roger, not wanting to surrender points, turtles and Jacare is able to take Roger’s back, winning him 4 points.
Jacare spends a good deal of time on Roger’s back, looking for a choke while Roger deftly defends, and when an opening presents itself Roger slickly adjusts his position to threaten a leg lock. Jacare shows no interest in playing foot locks with Roger and focuses purely on escaping. Finally, it is Roger that slips away back to standing, but again pulls guard due to the threat of Jacare’s takedowns.
After this opening exchange Jacare is up 4-0 and inside Roger’s full guard. What would happen next has been called cowardice by some and incredible bravery by others.
In a reversal of roles, it is Jacare who finds himself in the jaws of a beast; Roger locks in a high guard and traps one of Souza’s arms. The Gracie then slips his leg over Jacare’s face to secure an armbar. As Roger cranks on his arm, Jacare tries desperately to escape and his elbow is stretched past its breaking point. Amazingly, Jacare escapes, but as his arm slips free it hangs dead at his side.
Later examination would reveal that the tendons of the elbow had been ruptured, the joint dislocated and the muscle torn from the bone, but the score remained 4-0 and there was almost half the match remaining. In order to win a World Championship and defeat Roger Gracie, Jacare would have to hold the Gracie off one-handed.
It was not the way anyone dreams of winning a World Championship, but Jacare wore the gold around his neck. It became the highlight among a year of highlights for the young champion. That same year Jacare would defeat Fabricio Werdum and Fernando Margarida to win the CBJJO World Cup and make a successful return to MMA, this time sticking to his Jiu-Jitsu to notch a quick victory.
The start of 2005 went very well for Jacare also. He entered in the European Open, one of the IBJJF’s ‘Big Three’ competitions and in the finals of the absolute division he again faced Roger Gracie, who exacted revenge for his Mundials defeat.
Souza then traveled to Long Beach California to take part in that year’s ADCC in both -88kg weightclass and absolutes. In his weight, Jacare made a clean sweep defeating David Belkheiden, Robert Suiski, Dennis Hallman and Demian Maia to claim gold.
In the Absolutes, after defeating David Avellan and Alecandre Ferreira ‘Cacareco’ Souza was faced with master technician Marcelo Garcia.
Despite Jacare’s victory over Garcia, he again was defeated in the absolute finals by Roger Gracie.
Going back to gi competition Souza took part in the Rickson Gracie Invitational, an event with its own scoring rules and was broadcast with decent production values. And then returning to defend his Mundial crown, Souza again faced Estima in the finals of their weight division, this time Souza claimed victory.
Then in the absolutes Jacare faced Estima one more time and beat him again, making it to the finals, where he met his rival Roger Gracie yet again. This time it was Jacare who claimed revenge and gold over Roger, this time with limbs intact.
After this amazing two year run to utter dominance Jacare’s focus shifted to MMA and an amazing grappling career came mostly to an end. Winning the most Absolute golds of any one person in IBJJF history and being the only man to truly stand up to Roger Gracie, Jacare Souza has cemented his legacy as one of the greatest grapplers of all-time.
Sources:
"ADCC Results | adcombat.com." ADCC News | adcombat.com.
"Results." International Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Federation.
"Ronaldo Souza Jacare | BJJ Heroes." BJJ Heroes: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Souza, Ronaldo. Personal interview. 1 May 2008. Translation Roberto Pedreira & Yoko Kondo March 2010.
Other Articles in History of Jiu-Jitsu Series:
1. Birth on the Battlefield
2. The Meiji Era and the Evolution of Judo
3. Judo Travels the World and Maeda Meets Gracie
4. Baptism By Fire and Luta Livre
5. The Tragedy of Rolls Gracie
6. Coming to America and the Birth of the Ultimate Fighting Championship
7. The Gracies Leave the UFC and Bring Jiu Jitsu Back to Japan
8. Carlson Gracie, The Grandfather of Jiu Jitsu in MMA
9. The Rise of Sport Jiu Jitsu
10. Twist and Shout
11. Grappling Arts Begin to Blend in MMA
12. Judo Grows Into An Olympic Sport
14. Oswaldo Fadda, Nova Uniao and Non-Gracie Jiu-Jitsu
16. Alliance Schism Creates New Team
18. The Professors of Gracie Barra
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Jacare is a beast
One of the very very few completely well rounded fighters at 185.
by mortarz on Sep 4, 2011 9:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Completely well rounded?
He’s never won on the feet.
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didn't you hear
now that fight is controversial, even though nobody expect Tim Kennedy seemed to have a problem with the decision that night.
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Big deal
Kennedy is a grappler.
Jacare is a Jits fighter with good GNP and great subs.
On the feet he’s average….just like Kennedy.
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he is a bit better on the feet than your giving him credit for
I’d call his boxing solid, but it is developing quickly. He is in no way an elite striker and his chin is suspect but he has more than enough boxing to hand with the majority of 185ers.
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All I'm sayin is
One of the very very few completely well rounded fighters at 185.
That aint true.
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he has competent boxing, pretty good wrestling, great judo and world class jits. Who at 185 is all that well-rounded?
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This man

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Anderson Silva = Greatest MMA Fighter Ever
but I think we can all agree his wrestling is enough to keep him from earning the tag of very well rounded.
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?Yeah cuz he's constantly getting LnP'd right?
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by RolloTomasi on Sep 4, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well no but that is mostly due to the strength of his jiu jitsu.
can I retract my statement?
I actually think Silva’s wrestling is underrated, but his takedown defense is mostly based about being hard to run down.
I would consider Silva pretty well rounded, but my question is after Silva what Middleweights are really that well rounded?
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Jason Miller looked good in the Jacare rematch (untill the DQ)
he was sprawling well and catching Jac with his superior kickboxing.
In the first fight he got pulled into Jacare’s Jits game, and it cost him.
I’d love to see Jacare enter the UFC and take on Miller. I think Miller can beat him, he’s more well rounded IMO.
I also think Paul Harris would dec him.
Jac would fall to Okami.
I think there are a number of MW in the UFC who can beat him.
He’s tough, but his wrestling isn’t gonna take him to the top 5.
Of course I could be wrong.
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I dunno
Jacare has improved a lot since their first meeting and Mayhem didn’t have much for Jacare. Two minutes of their second fight I don’t think outweighs that.
I think Okami would be a tough test for Jacare, I don’t think Paul Harris would be able to leg lock Jacare and I think Jacare would be able to take him down and wear him down.
Jacare would beat Munoz, Maia and Sonnen IMO. The guys would me think twice are guys like Stann and Leben; tough, big guys with heavy hands.
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also for Palhares to win a decision
it all depends on if the ref is taking away points
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To say Jacare isn't one of the most well rounded 185er's
is crazy talk. His boxing game has progressed alot . No one is saying he is Anderson Silva on the feet but he doesn’t need to be to earn the term well rounded.
he is Top 5 in my books
I think his skills are still developing, but his chin will always be an issue.
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You've never been wrong before, right;)?
I agree with ya. I feel like Miller is severely underated. I laughed a lot at Bisping saying on Inside MMA that Miller was going to sleep when they fight. Miller is one of the most well-rounded 85er’s in the game. Almost impossible to finish.
by butt.bar.bandit on Sep 5, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
mayhem is definitely well rounded,
But his offensive talents are undercut by his defensive mediocrity. He could certainly win in a rematch with jac, but this is a guy who really is improving at a ridiculous rate.
I think jac would outbox palhares, and give okami a hell of a fight too.
by Connoisseur on Sep 5, 2011 2:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Silva’s wrestling> jacare’s striking.
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by Hendo_One-Shot on Sep 5, 2011 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions
And Marquardt is a pretty stout wrestler.
Only Chael, and Okami have handled him on the ground (in the UFC)
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Dammit that is slick
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Great write up TP
Your knowledge is always a light in a somewhat dark tunnel known as fanposts. haha. Love the inclusion of the videos. Keep it up!
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Jacare stood up to Roger in grappling competitions.
Now I would like to see him against Anderson in mma.
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sadly Jacare and Anderson train together
and are close friends, likely would not fight.
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Anderson is superior striker to every Middleweight in the world
but Jacare on the mat is a handful for anyone
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Correction:
He’s a superior striker to any fighter in the world
Fantastic read.
All I want from this division is to have Toquinho vs. Jacare, Toquinho vs. Maia, and Maia vs. Jacare.
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And they all are going to be bad kickboxing matches.
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:( Don't say that.
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I think Jacare could take both of them down
or he could outstrike them.
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I feel like Maia is more skilled.
But Toquinho would be a bigger threat, just with his aggression.
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I disagree
I think Jacare is much more skilled than Maia. His wrestling is much, much better than Maia’s, I give him the edge in a grappling match and Jacare is the superior athlete.
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I meant more skilled than Palhares.
I definitely think that Jacare is a better striker, wrestler and athlete, and believe that the grappling is crazily close.
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gotcha
I would agree then!
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Jacare could not outstrike Maia. Maia’s striking has improved quite a lot.
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I think jacare's striking in the Kennedy fight
is better than any striking Maia has ever done. The one thing you hear from guys who train with Jacare is how quickly he learns and improves and his boxing has been improving for a while now.
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Awesome article as always.
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thanks Pat
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Good article as always. I want Braulio to win the Superfight though ;)
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GB represent
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Great piece
Jacare’s awesome, can’t wait to see him in action again. He’s not competing at the ADCCs this year since he’s fighting next weekend, right?
yeah he is going to be in a superfight with Braulio
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Could someone elaborate
on why fighting Roger Gracie after getting your arm broken was considered an act of cowardice. I legitimately don’t understand and would appreciate some more information.
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people were very unhappy that he spent the rest of the match refusing to engage and running from Roger. Stalling his way to a world title.
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Thanks
I’m still relatively new to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and I’m not familiar with all the controversies of its past.
I understand that it would make the match boring to watch but that’s a long hard road to call it cowardice.
"Serious sport is war minus the shooting."
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well the scene is super political
most the people who called it cowardice were pulling for Roger.
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but a big part of it
is how he spends the second half of the match running from Roger and running out of bounds.
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What a wimp
Should of knocked him out, ala Franklin vs Lidell
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He got deducted points for doing it so blatantly
But was already up by enough points that they didn’t eliminate his lead, and there would be controversy over the referee not outright DQ’ing him.
Roger Gracie did way, WAY 'better' than that to him the year afterward
Complete with Renzo Gracie basically yelling “stronger, Roger, squeeze him tighter, Roger, make him TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP~” for the last 30 seconds of that thing.
watch the vid!
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by John Danaher's Hair on Sep 4, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
…this time with limbs enacted
did you mean intact?
by Victor Rodriguez on Sep 4, 2011 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
yes I did. Thank you for the catch.
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thank me? i should thank you for this awesome series!
keep it coming.
by Victor Rodriguez on Sep 4, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I have been meaning to watch some of the remake episodes. The original is on netflix and I suffered through the first batch of episodes and couldn’t figure out why I watched it as a child
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by Bobillarious on Sep 5, 2011 11:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Children are retards and will watch awful stuff. Also, the cartoons weren’t of high quality. My cartoons growing up were stuff like Avatar the Last Airbender, Samurai Jack, and stuff like that. Every generations cartoons slowly seem to improve.
by discoandherpes on Sep 5, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
You're pieces are always fantastic.
Seriously, one of, if not the, main reason I come to BE everyday is to look for the next HoJJ article.
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by Sean in Vancouver on Sep 5, 2011 1:31 AM EDT reply actions
thanks man
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I think that fight would be a wash
I think Jacare is better in every aspect of fighting. He is the better athlete, better wrestler and more evolved striker.
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That win against Roger Graice is a moral victory for Gracie. Jacare won on points and running away, Gracie on the other hand destroyed Jacare arm.
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lol
looks like we have a Gracie diehard here.
How could it be a moral victory for Gracie when he couldn’t defeat a man with one arm?
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by Robert Cowan on Sep 5, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Problem here was simply the nature of the rules
Though Jacare won fair-and-square… ya know, at first*. Although I’d say that at ADCC 2005, Gracie more than avenged himself.
- I think Robert Drysdale said that it’s pretty much the only way to beat Roger Gracie under a grappling ruleset with points — get ahead and then stall.
I'm not really a fan of competitive grappling
But I have enjoyed what I have seen from Jacare when it comes to MMA. He’d make a pretty neat contender when he finally transitions over to the UFC. MW might seem pretty shallow to people, bu the division has plenty of world class wrestlers/grapplers (Chael, Lindland, emaciated Hendo, Jacare, Maia)
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great article
I enjoy taking a look at a fighter’s background to see how they got into this sport. Perseverance is key to this sport and I got mad respect for guys like Jacare. Keep em comin.
by capt insano on Sep 5, 2011 11:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
nice job again
his highlight fights are not so exciting, though… it seems he would mostly get ahead on points and then stall til time ran off.
great technique nonetheless…
well to be fair
the majority of these videos are Jacare facing off with other elite world champion level guys. Jacare’s highlight reel is pretty damn impressive but against Roger all you can really do is get ahead and stall. Tapping guys like Estima and Garcia at all is amazing.
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As a huge jacare fan I would love to see him against Silva. I wouldn’t favor him, but he’s got a pretty good shoot so he’d have a much better shot than Maia had. And unlike Sonnen he thoroughly outclass Silva in the submission grappling department.
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