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USA TODAY/MMA Nation September 2011 Consensus Rankings: Light Heavyweight

Rank Fighter % Promotion Last Rank
1 Jon Jones 100 UFC 1
2 Mauricio Rua 94 UFC 3
3 Rashad Evans 93 UFC 2
4 Quinton Jackson 87 UFC 4
5 Lyoto Machida 85 UFC 5
6 Dan Henderson 78 UFC 7
7 Phil Davis 72 UFC 8
8 Forrest Griffin 68 UFC 6
9 Rafael Cavalcante 49 Strikeforce 10
10 Gegard Mousasi 47 Strikeforce 9
11 Muhammed Lawal 40 Strikeforce 16
12 Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 38 UFC 12
13 Thiago Silva 37 UFC 11
14 Rich Franklin 37 UFC 13
15 Alexander Gustafsson 36 UFC 15
16 Tito Ortiz 31 UFC 14
17 Ryan Bader 26 UFC 17
18 Vladimir Matyushenko 19 UFC 19
19 Renato Sobral 17 Strikeforce 18
20 Cyrille Diabate 16 UFC 21
21 Stanislav Nedkov 14 UFC NR
22 Randy Couture 14 UFC 23
23 Roger Gracie 13 Strikeforce 20
24 Keith Jardine 12 Strikeforce 24
25 Brandon Vera 12 UFC 25
25 Jason Brilz 12 UFC 30
25 Kyle Kingsbury 12 UFC 26

#1 Jon Jones made his first successful title defense against #4 Quinton Jackson this past Saturday at UFC 135 keeping hope alive that we'll get to see Jones fight #3 Rashad Evans with the title on the line.

#9 Rafael Cavalcante and #11 Muhammed Lawal both faced and defeated lower (or un)ranked opposition at Strikeforce World Grand Prix: Barnett vs. Kharitonov keeping their names in the discussion of contenders at 205.

The next month currently has no top 25 light heavyweight action scheduled, though the following months should make up for it.

Star-divide

 

Based on the premise that all MMA rankings are subjective but that it’s still useful and informative to know who the online MMA community as a whole ranks as the best fighters in MMA, we collect and average the rankings of the top MMA websites to produce our consensus rankings. We compile the top MMA rankings from each of our sources and award 25 points for a first place ranking, 16 for a 10th place ranking, 1 for a 25th place ranking. A formula is used to "normalize" the data so all fighters are awarded points from those lists that do not include a full 25 fighters. This formula ensures that each ranking site awards the same number of total points regardless of how many fighters they choose to rank. Each fighter’s total is divided by the number of possible points to determine their standing in the Consensus Rankings.

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i miss thiagosilva :(

Fine! I'll go build my own lunar lander, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the lunar lander and the blackjack.

PRIDE fan boy

by gxc on Sep 30, 2011 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

come again

Fine! I'll go build my own lunar lander, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the lunar lander and the blackjack.

PRIDE fan boy

by gxc on Sep 30, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

LIke any steroid user

and lair and cheater. He does not believe in himself enough that he has to cheat to get to the top. Even with cheating he lost to Lyoto and Evans. This guy is done because when the shit its the fan he looks for the easy way out

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yawn all you want

but this guy is done he is done mentally and will never come back

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beleives

he has to cheat to beat Vera? like if that does not scream no self confidence i do not know what does

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have no idea

if he used an AAS or a glucocorticosteroid like he claimed, do we?

"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
Never send sheep to kill a wolf.

by The American Ronin on Sep 30, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both types of drugs require a TUE, regardless.

"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
Never send sheep to kill a wolf.

by The American Ronin on Sep 30, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i seem to recall BE posting an article about his back injury and

 the language barrier between non American fighters and the athletic commission

Fine! I'll go build my own lunar lander, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the lunar lander and the blackjack.

PRIDE fan boy

by gxc on Sep 30, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

True,

although he is an ATT guy IIRC, and they certainly should have known, even if he didn’t. I’ll agree it looks suspicious, but…

"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
Never send sheep to kill a wolf.

by The American Ronin on Sep 30, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

do not make me laugh

He has no one to explain this stuff properly to him lol. Just another excuse like all the others that come out when someone gets caught cheating

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know they're all on drugs, right?

And they always have been.

If you’re not using in the UFC, you’re in the minority.

by Schwizzles on Sep 30, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can you say that

Until you are proven to be a cheater you cannot be called one. How can you say they are all on drugs have you seen them shoot up have you seen them buy the pills. Unless you are proven a cheater you have no right to call someone a cheater

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barnett

One of my fav fighters has been caught many times. Everytime he gets caught he gets punished as such for cheating

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon son!

Just because most guys haven’t gotten caught doesn’t mean most guys aren’t using. The Athletic Commission’s drug testing policies are, by and large, a joke.

Thinking that most professional athletes are on roids isn’t cynical, it’s common sense. Guys who want to be the best are willing to do whatever it takes to get there.

by MS_Dos_Santos on Sep 30, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

You cannot say it

with out proof ever heard the saying innocent to proven guilty. Until you are proven to be a cheater you should not be called one or thought to be one. On the testing if its a joke then get rid of it i have been saying this for years or simply stop trying to regulate drug use. As it stands now everyone knows the rules and if you break them you are a cheater. Same as kicking a downed opponent. If you take drugs to gain a competitive edge you are a cheater simple as that

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

So with that logic

If Silva said he wasn’t using steroids but something else we should believe him right? After all…until he’s caught with a failed test for STEROIDS how could we possibly jump to any conclusions…

by MemphisMike on Sep 30, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He sent in a false urine sample for one

So obviously he was doing something not on the up and up. Sending in a false urine sample is also cheating. You know before hand that you need to send a urine sample in that is yours not a false one. So yes he is still a cheater

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure you’ll find a couple ranked fighters who have been caught using peds in the past and continue to do well.

Nnot sure what you mean by “cheating when he lost to Machida and evans (a fight that could easily by scored a draw)”, unless you want to assume every fighter does steroids without proof. It’s not as if his explanation seems far fetched either. He has had plenty of issues with his back injuries before. He was out for a year going into the Vera fight because of his back.

by Gracchus on Sep 30, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest Just isn’t top 10 talent

by inthepipes on Oct 1, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

What Gegard

is about King Mo really that really does not make much sense. Other then that i really cannot complain about the list it makes sense to me

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

This must be a joke

Forrest Griffin is not a top 10 LHW. The only top ten lists he belongs on are 1) top MMA commedians and 2) top over-rated LHW. Phil Davis does not belong on the top ten list. Phil Davis may be one day but has not proven it yet.

by mmaprophet on Sep 30, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Becuause i am looking

down the list and no one is there that should be above him in my opinion

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sorry but

i just don’t see anything special about FG. He’s funny but…did you see the Anderson Silva, Rashaad Evans, or the 2nd Shogun fight. He’s awful against top competition and mediocre against mid level competition.

by mmaprophet on Sep 30, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw the Evans fight...

You, however, apparently did not.

by skeebop on Sep 30, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

my opinion but...

i believe gegard and silva would beat him. don’t think either are top 10. may just be a lack of competition.

by mmaprophet on Sep 30, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or that

Forrest is not as bad as everyone thinks he is. This guy has beaten some of the best and for Gegard beating him do not make me laugh. This guy has done nothing at 205 to show me otherwise man

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah man

Didn’t you see the way Gegard handled Jardine? Oh wait…

by MemphisMike on Sep 30, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did handle Jardine... did you watch that fight?

The only reason that was a draw is because of the wrestling bias of the judges/URs…

When I'm on the mic it goes down, CINTRON

-Joell Ortiz

by The Lethal Haze on Oct 1, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you're right

that gegard hasn’t done anything but i have to disagree that forrest is not as bad as everyone thinks he is. He’s garbage.

by mmaprophet on Sep 30, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like this should be fighter bashing

You’re calling a former champion garbage? Really?

by Worldisart on Sep 30, 2011 1:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You're not really going to start flagging people again for pseudo-bashing, are you?

"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
Never send sheep to kill a wolf.

by The American Ronin on Sep 30, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope not

buddy is not doing anything wrong just his opnion no matter how wrong it is

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forest has not beat a top ten guy in over 3 years! He is 2-3 since then, his wins coming by decisions, his loses all stoppages. I agree he is not top 10.

I am free because I choose to be so-Me

by Kefka on Sep 30, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

They both should be up there

Davis beat Stann, lil Nog, and Gustafsson (Gust’s only MMA loss) who are all really good fighters. Forrest is still in top ten because he finished Shogun, then he beat Rampage in back to back fights. He also beat Tito and Rich Franklin who are quality fighters. Him losing to Shogun, Anderson, and Rashad is no that big of deal for me.

You know what they say

by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Sep 30, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

This was a reply to MMAprophet up there haha

You know what they say

by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Sep 30, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

beating rampage

who didn’t take him serious and an out of shape shogun does not impress me. it did at the time but after second fight,…idk?

by mmaprophet on Sep 30, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

An out of shape Shogun and Rampage not taking him serious

Do not make me laugh that is some lame rational and hater mentality. He beat them actually beat the crap out of them. He was the LHW champ what has Gegard done………………………… oh wait he held the Dream title which means about nothing lol

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

calm down...just friendly

opinions. if you disagree fine but i don’t hate FG. I just think he’s garbage. don’t like gegard either but FG sucks in my opinion. i will say he is a funny guy though.

by mmaprophet on Sep 30, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem here is that now you are simply discrediting Griffin’s opposition. Rampage was out of shape, Shogun needed surgery after that first fight and therefore out of shape, Tito is irrelevant, Franklin is too small. The thing is that you can do that with just about any fighter. It comes off like you are “reaching” for reasons why Griffin isn’t any good when in fact, his record indicates that he is a top ten Light Heavyweight.

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by chrisbboy82 on Sep 30, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tito is irrelevant to

MMA now and Franklin was too small.

by mmaprophet on Sep 30, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That i will not disagree with

but he puts on fun fights and people like watching him so no need to get rid of him

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

My only gripes are:

-Mousasi above Lawal

-retired Couture in there

by KOQ24 on Sep 30, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah i agree with you

how can Gegard be about King Mo. Has Gegard even won a fight in Strikeforce…………. oh wait he beat the guy in the predator mask lol

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Babalu wore a predator mask?

It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.

by memitim on Sep 30, 2011 1:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nah just talking about

 Sokoudjou he came to the ring in his UFC debut wearing a predator mask lol it was pretty awesome and then went out and got his ass handed to him by Loyto

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 30, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s do some MMA math. Gegard>Soko>Joaquin Ferreira>JDS>everyone so Gegard>everyone.

It's that the world is basically a forced labor camp from which the workers, perfectly innocent, are led forth by lottery, a few each day, to be executed.
I don't think that's just the way I see it. I think that's the way it is. Are there alternative views? Yes. Will any of them stand close scrutiny? No.

by memitim on Sep 30, 2011 1:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You just made an excuse for his 4 biggest wins. It’s not his fault Rampage took him lightly. That would be Rampage’s fault for taking a title fight lightly. Franklin is not small, Forrest is big, you’re kind of right about Tito but he wasn’t as bad in 09 when they fought. Also, Shogun coming in out of shape is not Forrest’s fault. They both agreed to fight and Forrest won.

You know what they say

by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Sep 30, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the last 3 years he won 2 fights by decision against guys not in the top 10. And lost 3 fight by stoppages to guys in the top 10. He is not top 10 anymore.

I am free because I choose to be so-Me

by Kefka on Sep 30, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

the LHW is jon jones

does it really matter how everyone else is ranked

he is about to go on an anderson silva like tear and just finish fools

by Jett Thomas on Sep 30, 2011 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

This is solely a battle for second place

Rua, Evans, Machida, Jackson

"If you say Chael Sonnen I will light you on fire." -- Farthammer.

by IKiIIed007 on Sep 30, 2011 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Renato Sobral

The only light heavyweight free agent in the top 25…everyone else is with Zuffa.

And Sobral is busy trying to get a 205 fight with MW Hector Lombard.

I would say Lombard wins that match…killing Sobral’s stock as a top 25 205-er…and temporarily putting Lombard in the top 25 of the 205, just for him to slowly fall out of the rankings as he returns to MW.

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by Chris Groves on Oct 1, 2011 7:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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