UFC 135: Rampage Jackson Outs Spy, Accuses MusclePharm Employee
by Leland Roling on Sep 23, 2011 11:56 AM EDT
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PrintIn the never-ending cycle of media relations leading up to UFC 135 this weekend, current UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones and challenger 'Rampage' Jackson appeared on ESPN's Sportscenter this morning. The usual verbal sparring match ensued, but Jackson dropped a bomb during the segment, claiming that a man named "Leonard", who worked for his sponsor MusclePharm, was the spy in his camp feeding Jon Jones information.
According to a SEC Filing issued on September 16, 2011, MusclePharm executive vice president Leonard Armenta resigned from his position with the company, leading to some speculation that he was, in fact, the 'Leonard' that Jackson is accusing in the interview. Jackson stated on Twitter that he didn't want to reveal the man's full name out of respect for MusclePharm, so it isn't confirmed whether Armenta is the man Jackson is talking about.
Jon Jones took to Twitter moments later, stating it "sucks" an employee at MusclePharm was fired over Rampage's paranoia:
@Jonnybones Jon Bones Jones Sucks some poor guy at musclepharm got fired over rampages paranoia
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Some of the immediate reactions to the news, especially if you buy into the notion that Leonard Armenta's resignation has everything to do with 'Spygate', has been mostly positive toward Jackson. Rampage delivered a name when pressed by Jones to reveal the spy, and the SEC filing could be connected to Rampage's claim. We have no idea if the resignation of Armenta and Rampage's claim are connected though.
It also brings up another question that seems to get ignored in all the arguing. If spying did actually occur, who's to say that Jon Jones even knew about it? Perhaps a pissed off former employee gave the information to Jones' camp. Hard to ignore a phone call from a legitimate source who says Rampage is hurt, isn't it? In any case, the saga probably won't end here.
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I saw “Rampage Jackson Out..” and nearly shit my pants.
by kreally on Sep 23, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
It will be awesome when someone actually does.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 23, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I think you guys are talking about 2 different things
"You're... you're crazy man. I like you, but you're crazy."
If someone simply reads those three words and think Jackson is out of the fight, then shits their pants, then realizes he isn’t. That’s comedy gold.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 23, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I have an RSS reader and everytime it updates and I see there’s some MMA related news my palms start sweating out of fear that Nick Diaz will cancel his fight with BJ. I know tt’s not the same than shitting in my pants but I understand this guys’ fears
by Gisele Federico Navarro Mendez on Sep 23, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
They already have Leland
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by Brian Hemminger on Sep 23, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’m talking about readers. Where is that list, BRIAN!
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by Leland Roling on Sep 23, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
Sorry, couldn’t find that list, although I’m sure there were a few when your Soda Popinski prospect report came out on April Fool’s.
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by Brian Hemminger on Sep 23, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
They should have shit their pants. Popinski is LEGIT! LEGIT, I SAY!
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by Leland Roling on Sep 23, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think I just had my first heart palpitation.
by I_Mad on Sep 23, 2011 12:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd be more concerned about my sphincter control...
….if something so minor can make you crap your drawers.
Might want to stock up on Depends®. Just sayin’….
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by Scabby Knuckle on Sep 23, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
im calling it now
you just won this thread.
and lets not kid ourselves, we all know which one is the white one and which one is the black one.
Jonny Bench called.
by Sterling Archer on Sep 23, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
And you just stole it with this line
and lets not kid ourselves, we all know which one is the white one and which one is the black one
I applaud you sir
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by LRaunThaDamaja on Sep 23, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that’s why Rampage has hard feelings for jone’s, Rampage had a rougher childhood while Jones’ life has been all handy dandy. I’m rooting for rage on this one.
by MaximumWatermelon on Sep 23, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I really haven't been paying much attention to this
To me, this is outside of MMA and something thats ‘other’ because I feel that spies could only do so much.
So they have a spy who is giving them info on what he sees? How reliable or effective is that?
‘Yeah, he trained like, some of this stuff today’…okay, that’s all well and good. But there are something like 40 fights Rampage has that you can watch and actually see how he applies himself vs what he trains.
Also, this easily could have been a non-spy effort anyway. This leonard guy may have simply heard Rampage was heart, and felt like spreading the info in a completely harmless way to the other guys camp.
That is a total non-spy issue. But of course, the paranoid fucking Rampage sees it as a spy, then Malki Kawa has to explain where he heard it. But he can’t say he heard it from this Leonard VP guy because while Leonard probably just passed the information around as a sort of casual effort…it’s now being misconstrued as something with heinous intent…so Malki can’t just out the guy.
So Malki says that he saw it on twitter, which Rampage says there was nothing on twitter and is even more convinced os spies.
Rampage isn’t going to back down from any statement because he is an asshole. So his bottom line was ‘found out who told them about my fake broken hand, and say that he is a spy’ and so that’s what he did.
I think this is one huge misunderstanding and Leonard merely felt he was being cordial by telling Kawa that Rampage had broken his hand…for whatever reason. Or maybe Rampage talked some shit to this guy and he wanted to screw with Rampage…Rampage is a huge asshole, we can’t forget that.
So yeah, I sincerely doubt there was any spy. Can we stop talking about this now?
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The issue was regarding an injury to a specific region of his body. Rampage faked it to out the spy, and he did that because he felt training partners were coming in and trying to hit him in areas he was previously hurt. He figured that some of the guys coming in were informed of this, and trying to hurt him more. So, he made up an injury to out the spy. Apparently, it worked.
Training wise, I don’t think it helps that much. But knowing where a guy is hurting when he comes into a fight could be valuable.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 23, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Knowing what a guy is doing in camp is a huge advantage
what he is training, what he is looking to avoid, what he is looking like in camp etc are huge. I think it’s clear Jackson’s camp is dirty and this is another example.
by Urijah Bieber on Sep 23, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i actually agree.
Where there are multiple giant plumes of black smoke…… There is fire.
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by the-gentle-way on Sep 23, 2011 2:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, to an extent.
You generally don’t start to work on very SPECIFIC ways to counter your opponent until a few weeks out from the fight. And you’re only going to do that kind of training one- on- one with your coach.
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by ElliotMatheny on Sep 23, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
if it didnt provide benefit they wouldn't do it
Patriot Games all over again.
by Urijah Bieber on Sep 23, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying there's no reward.
Just saying that in most cases, it would be hard to tell what things a fighter is focusing on specifically, unless you were watching his one- on- one time training with his head coach(es).
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by ElliotMatheny on Sep 23, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You think Rampage is working his elbows?
Or working on how to defend Bones’ hellbows? I don’t get it. We all know what both guys are looking to do in the fight. Page wants to throw hands, Jones wants to pick at him from range, take him down and work from the top.
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by ElliotMatheny on Sep 23, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I find this whole thing to be a silly soap opera.
Glad it’s over. So some MusclePharm employee was a Jon Jones fan, big deal. Acting like spies have been planted in his camp just confirms to me that Quinton is a pretty paranoid guy. Everyone is gay, everyone is counting him out, people are spying on him, people are disrespecting him. Same old stuff.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny, that's exactly what A SPY would say
There he is! A spy! We found a spy! We’ve got a spy! A spy! A spyyyyyyy!
… May we burn him?
by Pyrgz Krum on Sep 23, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Only if he weighs the same as a duck.
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by esquilinho on Sep 23, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
But maybe, a spy might want to you to think he's a spy,
so that you wouldn’t realize he was actually spying on something other than what he appeared to be spying on!
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I see it as an advantage in the context of game-planning only.
With regard to techniques, training modalities and so forth, a spy is generally useless. In the context of delivering information concerning an intended game-plan, however, a spy could be of certain use. That said, Rampage has never been known for brilliant game-planning.
by Disco-Platypus on Sep 23, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly, what's he gonna do?
Come forward, try to keep the fight standing, and try to knock you out.
MAYBE do some cage work and dirty boxing…that’s probably about it.
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by Chris Groves on Sep 23, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It is about injuries
Rampage was injured in the Evan’s fight. Evan’s magically was punching Rampage’s injury, even though he never told anyone outside his camp about said injury.
IDK why this is so hard to understand. It isn’t about game plans… it is about injuries.
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by dbcb on Sep 23, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Thanks, dcub!
In the context of delivering information concerning an intended game-plan, however, a spy could be of certain use.
This is a general comment regarding the usefulness of spying in general. IDK what that is so hard to understand.
by Disco-Platypus on Sep 23, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i wasn't replying to you dick platypus
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The strike to the knee when someone is against the cage is common
I doubt Evans ‘knew’ that was Rampage’s hurt knee.
I am not a fan of Evans at all…but I don’t think there is any spying going on anyway.
I mean, if you have an injured rib, leg, or something…at some point in th fight the opponent is going to strike you there…at least that’s more then likely…and either you will react noticeable worse and tip him off, or you won’t.
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by Chris Groves on Sep 23, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not a fan of Evans at all…
Is this because you’re a Jones apologists?
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by LRaunThaDamaja on Sep 23, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Rampage claimed the same thing about Forrest, too.
That he was suspicious that Forrest kept kicking him in the knee. So like I’ve been saying, this whole spy theme goes back a ways with Rampage. Obviously this MusclePharm guy is just the patsy. I’m telling you, it’s Tiki Ghosn!
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
same with Rashad. he claimed Rashad kept punching him in his knee, which is a curious place to punch a guy.
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by Victor Rodriguez on Sep 23, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
He also smashed his own head into Rampage's knee,
and damned near knocked himself out in the process.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, this spy helped Rashad too?
So, he’s strictly a Jackson camp insider?
Rashad is sponsored by Muscle Pharm too.
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by ElliotMatheny on Sep 23, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d think any information might help, even if just in feeling like you have a psychological edge, but it’s certainly small potatoes. It’s just that calling the guy a “spy” is a ridiculous use of the term. Even if any of this is true, the Jones camp didn’t plant the guy at MusclePharm, years ago with orders to someday infiltrate Rampage’s training camp. I find it pretty unbelievable to think anyone was approached with an offer of compensation for information. At worst, this is what’s known as a “leak” of information. Is this guy a MMA trainer? Would he even know what he was looking at in watching Rampage train and spar? The whole “spy” angle is just the media running with Rampage’s statements because it sounds like a good story. Either way, whether this is just Rampage’s imagination, or if a guy at MusclePharm was a fan of Jon’s and thought he would help them out, Rampage always thinks there’s a spy on him. He brought it up himself in his initial complaint about this. Either way, I don’t think it has anything to do with Jon himself.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If he did tell someone about the fake injury,
then he IS a spy, whatever his intentions were. It’s not his responsibility to diverge confidential information, and I’m sure he signed a contract that said he would not do so.
by Atgreat on Sep 23, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for posting.
I dunno WTF to think of this. Nor do I care, Saturday can not get here soon enough.
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by LRaunThaDamaja on Sep 23, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks man
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Thanks, embedded.
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by Leland Roling on Sep 23, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
out of respect 2 #mucslepharm
I’m gonna misspell their name.
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Well there’s this nifty site called mmamania.com….
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by Hendo_One-Shot on Sep 23, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Its lame. And more lame that it might be true.
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Oh no! Looks like someone may have gotten caught!
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haha, so worth it though for the kid I’m sure.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 23, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
What time will the weigh-ins take place?
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Lame IS the word
Let’s get to the damn fight already. I like trash talk and a good build up for a fight, but this is getting so ridiculous. I’m rooting for rampage, but think Jones will win. Is Bones going to actually stare down Page at the weigh ins? He did at the conference. Those things are more interesting than spygate to me.
i think both are trying to be creative with the staredowns...
and rampage got some good laughs with his stareaway, but truth be told, anderson/belfort, rampage/wandy, and deigo/penn staredowns is more of my thing.
by Illuminaughty on Sep 23, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
This is much more interesting that the typical
“i hate him but we will hug afterwards” shit or the “I have respect for my opponent” shit
Rampage is an idiot but he is a fun idiot.
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did anyone else find jones incredibly awkward during the interview on sportscenter this morning?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVtwkIvcT_g
he always looks awkward talking in front of a camera
some people just are not comfortable in that arena
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by StillUnknown on Sep 23, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I thought Rampage looked more uncomfortable than usual.
I think at this point, he’s made this all about talk and this informant thing, is getting sick of the media, and just wants it to be fight day, which is definitely understandable.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
He’s done talking. Even if this isn’t as bad a cut as some others, you know he’s done with this, and doesn’t want to talk about Jon anymore, or his accusations, how he feels, none of it. Pretty normal for Page to get quiet and surly the day or two before a fight.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
it certainly shows he's cutting seriously.
his lips were white as fuck in that interview. hunger + dehydration + training + bullshit is enough to make anyone surly.
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by Victor Rodriguez on Sep 23, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I can't blame him.
I always feel a little bad for guys answering a ton of the same questions they’ve been answering for a month, while they’re body screams for water, their head hurts, they’re hungry. Didn’t think Quinton looked all that good at the weigh-in either, not particularly cut despite the water loss, but it’s hard to same it means anything.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Sep 23, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah i also found him to be awkward. Especially with how he waited to see if Rampage would say goodbye before he himself said it. He’s definitely not used to the cameras.
by MaximumWatermelon on Sep 23, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Spy Report
Spy: I’ve spied on Rampage the last 2 weeks, I know what he has planned for you.
Jones: What am I dealing with?
Spy: He is gonna try to knock you out.
Jones: %@#$%
i'm not going to pretend to know what happened, or what's going on
but if i had to guess, i wouldn’t put it past Malki to actually have a “spy”. I doubt that jones knew about it, but Malki seems like a fishy guy that would do anything to get ahead.
Plus Rampage mentioned that jones camp sent leonard some shoes or something like that, if that’s true that sounds alot like a bribe or a payment
agreed
Malki Kawa always came across as the type of guy that would do this. Also he’s the only person connected to Jones ever mentioned that received any inside info.
by alexmullen4180 on Sep 23, 2011 3:23 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
lol
“hey bones, a fairy whispered in my ear Page hurt his hand and to drill elbows”
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by Urijah Bieber on Sep 23, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The damn interview won’t load for me. Grrr. Why does ESPN never want anyone to see their videos?
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had to watch it on xbox live.
fucking ESPN.
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by Victor Rodriguez on Sep 23, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
What I don't get about the spy thing is that he complained about this before
He said that he suspected Rashad had a spy in his camp. That is why he was elbowing him in the knee(that was hurt) or whatever. However this is his first time training at this MusclePharm gym.
The guy resigns and people blame Rampage for it? I bet he’s playing the game. telling people yet I outed him and he had no choice but to resign when in reality he probably just resigned for his own reasons.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there is no connection between the two and Rampage just knew he quit so he’s using this convenient quit as a way to drive the story to make Jones look bad.
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by Discman2 on Sep 23, 2011 1:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think it’s the opposite, look at the look in pages eye’s. He looks kind of disturbed to me. Same look i would expect anyone else to make if all that was true.
by MaximumWatermelon on Sep 23, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
well, he is cutting weight now.
guys tend to be on edge when cutting weight. And we’re talking Rampage here, a guy who has said several times he absolutely hates it
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Jon Jones knew and outed himself
In an earlier interview — I believe it was used on the Countdown special — Jon Jones responds to the Spygate accusation by saying, “I don’t know what Rampage has been drinking at MuscleFarm but …”
I thought it was odd for Jones to suddenly bring up Rampage’s sponsor by name in this controversy, and now it’s clear why he did.
Same reason he said on Twitter “I’ve gotta start practicing elbow defense” on the day Rampage was drilling elbows.
Jones is trying to be cute and get in Rampage’s head. But he got too cute and now Rampage is making him look like an ass.
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by Discman2 on Sep 23, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What Diskman said
Rampage is training at some million dollar MusclePharm facility in Denver. His whole camp is there.
It is getting harder and harder to ignore all the cheating out of the Jackson camp.
Greasing from multiple fighters, HGH accusations, spying. His fighters at the highest levels always have perfect game plans, know where to attack, and are immune to submission holds. Jackson fighters are the best for a reason. They cheat.
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if you ain't cheatin
you ain’t tryin
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by Cory Braiterman on Sep 23, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
and if you are getting caught youre not trying hard enough.
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by the-gentle-way on Sep 23, 2011 2:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Espionage is one of the greatest weapons in warfare.
Its not surprising camps are employing this type of strategy. Ever listen to Jackson talk. He probably has his fighters studying the “Art of war”.
Sheeeeeeeee-it
by Clay Davis on Sep 23, 2011 2:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
These guys really don’t like each other. Such a different script from other UFC fights!
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Just wait...
until it is Jon and Rashad jawing back n forth. We will all want to punch a puppy after the second interview.
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you overestimate the time to want to punch the puppies
i want to right now
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by Cory Braiterman on Sep 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Penn vs Fitch
anyone who says a spy (who can reveal a gameplan) isnt a big deal, watch that fight and tell me Penns gameplan didnt play a HUGE part in their fight. Everytime you hear a figther say well he surprised me I thought he was gonna do (fill in blank) that was a game plan that changed the course of the fight. was Bones involved, I doubt it, but his management team was and thats just as bad.
What is that talk about Rampage spending north of 1 Million $?
I’ve never heard about it before watching the video. Did he invest in the Muscle Pharm training facility?
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This is a win-win for us.
We either get Bones vs Evans or Page vs Evans. Yessiree I like it.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
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I would not want to be around Quinton when he cuts weight
"To me, the function and duty of a quality human being is the sincere and honest development of one's potential." - Bruce Lee
by Genki Sudo's Choreographer on Sep 23, 2011 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
Jones always comes off flustered
when him and rampage get into it
I'm the best ever, I'm the most brutal and vicious
And most ruthless champion there's ever been
There's no one can stop me, there's never been nobody who could -
I'm Sonny Liston, I'm Jack Dempsey, there's no one like me
I'm from their cloth, there's no one who can match me
Praise be to Allah!
not only has Jones never faced a fighter like Rampage, he’s never faced a shit-talker of his caliber. you and i would be just as flustered.
"The Glen Rice scandal is way out of line w/ the GOP's values. They're interested in fucking black people by the millions, not one at a time"
by Victor Rodriguez on Sep 23, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't believe people haven't wised up to this sit.
It’s a fucking hype job to build interest for the fight. I’m actually both surprised and saddened by how many people fell for this shit.
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