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UPDATED - UFC Fight Night 25 Judo Chop: T.J. Waldburger Chains Submissions Together

T.J. Waldburger vs Mike Stumpf UFC Fight Night 25. (Photo by Mike Roach/Zuffa LLC/Zuffa LLC via Getty Images)

This is a post by the Bloody Elbow Grappling Coverage team. Introduction by KJ Gould, main analysis by Patrick Tenney.

UPDATE: As a bonus, we've added a gif of Waldburger's nifty kick-trip take down to taking the back with analysis from Ben Thapa of the BE grappling team. 

If at first you don't succeed, try, try, try again. This is especially true when it comes to the ground fighting element of Mixed Martial Arts where hanging out in a compromised position for too long can be seriously bad for your health. Just ask Jason Macdonald, Jim Miller and Fedor Emelianenko about their most recent fights where being on bottom or underneath their opponents was definitely to their detriment.

Another saying oft heard in the sports landscape is the best defense being a good offense. At the most recent Ultimate Fight Night in New Orleans this past weekend T.J. Waldburger had a strong top position which he gave up to go for an armbar attempt and opponent Mike Stumpf did his best to scramble to get out and take a stronger position. Instead of retreating to guard when the initial submission attempt failed, Waldburger did not give up on his offense and showed the value of being able to chain submission attempts together - more commonly known as lock-flows in the grappling arts - to eventually catch Stumpf in a fight ending triangle choke.

Using the lock-flow strategy of 'Attack, Attack, Attack' makes it very difficult for an opponent to cope as defending in one area can sometimes leave them vulnerable in another and as long as humans continue to only have two arms and two legs, defending everything at once is an impossibility.

After the jump Patrick Tenney looks at the classic submission chain from Brazilian Jiu Jitsu of going from an armbar to a triangle while on bottom with some form of open guard still in play.

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Here's Ben Thapa breaking down the initial sequence:

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When Waldburger connects with the leg kick, it has the fortunate timing to land exactly at the back of the knee when Stumpf starts to raise his lead foot. In an attempt to maintain his balance while simultaneously tracking his opponent, Stumpf spins - and exposes his back. Waldburger immediately sees the opportunity for the back take and jumps right into Stumpf. He wants to take that back as soon as possible and set up any number of fight finishing submissions.

Note very carefully how Waldburger reaches with his left hand behind Stumpf and slides his right hand under Stumpf's head. Stumpf is too disoriented from the spin to ward off the accurate placement of Waldburger's grips. Once he has the right hand under Stumpf's chin and the left hand climbing upwards from the waist, TJ connects both hands as fast as he can to create a grip on Stumpf that most grapplers call a harness or seatbelt grip. Much like the safety belt in a car, a tight seatbelt grip restrains the opponent's upper body from creating any sort of separation during the time the back take is threatened.

The harness/seatbelt grip has been a staple of control in submission grappling for a long time now, but it is usually combined with another form of control - getting one or more hook in. A hook from the back control is when the back taking fighter places a foot in front of the hip and upper thigh of the other fighter. It helps to further control the hips and thus limits the ability of the other fighter to defend, create space or escape. In recent years, Marcelo Garcia has been at the cutting edge of elite grappling by using the seatbelt without hooks to confuse and submit opponents. Several of his favorite submissions and positions are created by an opponent who senses the seatbelt coming and starts to defend the hook placement, as shown in this short excerpt from Marcelo's technique library. As soon as Waldburger gets the seatbelt, he is simultaneously falling to his right and whipping his lower body around to hunt for a hook with his left foot, which the surprised Stumpf gives away, or to pull Stumpf back into him in a "chair" position. With the seatbelt secure and the left hook already in, Stumpf is in a bad position with a shrinking pool of options left to him.

At the end of the gif, Waldburger has the hook in and shifts to base himself more securely. He is somewhat high on Stumpf's back, but he has a tight seatbelt, one hook in and quite a few options available to him. Stumpf's right arm can be trapped with his right foot, a right hook can be pushed in, the neck can be attacked for a rear naked choke and the isolation of the left arm for armlocks can begin. As Waldburger shows so brilliantly in a couple of seconds, the harness/seatbelt grip offers a ton of options for control from the back. Furthermore, it allows the cutting down of the opponent's possible responses dramatically.

And here's Patrick Tenney with the final analysis of the chain of submissions.

After exchanging a few strikes on the feet, T.J. is able to take Stumpf down and land in a dominant position. T.J. sets up a nearside arm-bar from side control by controlling Stumpf’s arm and isolating it as he begins to posture himself up, so that he can loop his legs over Stumpf to control the body/head and finish the lock.

If you notice T.J.’s right leg when he goes back for the arm-bar is below Stumpf’s head with his knee flared out to the right - this is usually a slight mistake. However, this leg position could also be caused by Stumpf realizing the submission attempt was coming and already beginning the roll/posture out (forcing T.J.’s leg down so that the foot and shin are not locked tight to the head and pinching the trapped arm with the other leg). This leg positioning allows Stumpf to rotate into T.J. because his head is not being controlled.

As Stumpf starts to come up, T.J. is able to loop his right leg back over the arm and in front of the neck of Stumpf. By doing so, he is locking in the arm-bar at a different orientation and forcing Stumpf into a "belly down" arm-bar. Stumpf reacts well in the situation at first, and attempts to roll through the arm-bar and then come up on top. He is able to force T.J.’s left leg over his head after he rolls through, which eliminates the possibility for the arm-bar or triangle.

Unfortunately for Stumpf, T.J. is able to push off of Stumpf’s body with his left hand to create space and get his left leg back over the shoulder of Stumpf. This allows T.J. to re-isolate the left arm of Stumpf. This could have been avoided by Stumpf by circling around to the head of Waldburger, instead of basing out with his feet back behind him and coming up into the guard of Waldburger. The unfortunate choice of base for Stumpf allows for T.J.'s left leg to come over the back of the head and lock the triangle submission in.

Once that triangle gets set in, it looks to be just about as perfectly locked in as you can get. The only additional detail missing would be Waldburger angling off further (he does angle slightly) towards his left side to cinch the choke in tighter.

This entire flow is an example of what I’ve always heard referred to as the "triple attack". It is done at the gym I train at as part of a warm up if we’re working guard techniques that day and involves the transition between the arm-bar/triangle/omoplata and how to transition between them from within the guard; each of these submissions rely on the isolation of a single arm of your opponent and can be linked together and chained repeatedly when/if one of them fails (barring certain situations where your opponent is able to de-isolate that arm or fundamentally alter the position/pass guard).

Here's Marcelo Garcia explaining Seat Belt control:

The Seatbelt Control is the most important technique in maintaining Back Control. If the opponent is able to roll before you can cover to get Back Control, continue to hold the Seat Belt Control and run around parallel to the opponent. Sit the opponent up and if possible, step over to trap his closest arm


Being one of the first "chains" and a fundamental part of BJJ guard work there are quite a lot of detailed instructionals out there for this sequence, below are a few:

Andre Quiles & "Robynho" AKA Robin Williams teach 3 attacks from the closed guard. Armbar to triangle to omoplata back to armbar. Andre Quiles is a brown belt in BJJ and certified personal trainer. Robynho is a black belt and part of the Checkmat - Fight Zone USA team.


This situational drill involves learning how to chain attacks together when your opponent defends your initial attack. In this case your opponent stacks you during an armbar from the guard, you transition to an omoplata and he postures up, you can finish with a triangle.

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sweet stuff boys

Waldburger is just hella fun to watch. I think in the end he’ll likely be another Dustin Hazelett — hard to win with submissions in the big fights.

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by Nate Wilcox on Sep 20, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Just beat me to this. I was almost done too… lol.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 20, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

like you could look at his UFC debut

that was insane, record for most submissions attempted. let me know if you need some gifs.

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by Nate Wilcox on Sep 20, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good idea. Didnt even think of that. I was about to get in the first gif that this post had. Then came to see the new post, haha. Still have my email by any chance?

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 20, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finish it anyways ANS, you always have great takes on this stuff and I’d hate to see a near finished article go to the bin.

by Empty Thoughts on Sep 20, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll think into it, see if there is anything I can add. Tenney and KJ pretty much do an excellent job 11 out of 10 times. Thanks though for the compliment.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 20, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I second this.

I enjoy your breakdowns a lot. I think you should finish yours as well!

by Sabate on Sep 21, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent rebound fight for TJ

Let’s see if his fate is something similar to Hazelett in that he can’t handle the stronger strikers who also have good submission defense. We may have our answer from his last fight against Hendricks, but this fight earns him a little breathing room.

by Rumblerg on Sep 20, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

What is impressive is that he is listed as a purple belt. Which means he has so much improvement to add to an already creative and dynamic BJJ game. Granted Stumpf was a newcomer, TJ did show lots of creativity and execution in his bottom game. A forgotten art of some sort… to have a crafty bottom game.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 20, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Second gif there is one of my favorite things to go to if I mess up on an omoplata, there’s a way to turn that into a slick submission too instead of a sweep but it’s slightly lower percentage.

-AboveThisFire

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall

I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal

by Patrick Tenney on Sep 20, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you talking about finishing the omoplata or turning it into something else?

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 20, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s the same as the omoplata but the orientation is different and you need both arms for leverage, you use the omoplata and the underhook to pull their shoulder blades together and then raise the “omoplata’d” arm up in sort of a hammerlock but using the legs/hips instead of your arms to force it up. Was taught it at a Bruno Frazatto seminar and used it ever since if someone really postures up (dropping me down on my back if I didn’t sit up fast enough) and leaves that other arm open to the underhook.

-AboveThisFire

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall

I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal

by Patrick Tenney on Sep 20, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Interesting. I will have to try this out. See if I can pull it off. I like setting up my triangle from omo-platas but have never seen this modified version of the omo. Thanks for the info.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 20, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll try to explain it a little for you to try out:

Guy postures fast in the omoplata before you sit up and can lock his posture down, change your orientation but maintain the lock (your body should be oriented directly behind him, with your outside arm while behind the opponent underhook his free arm and pull it back. Squeeze his shoulders together and hip up to make the trapped arm go up his back and hyper extend the shoulder.

Alternatively if you can’t finish it that way, keep the underhook on that far arm and the lock but try to manipulate that trapped arm with both of your hands and just finish it by pushing it up or wristlocking.

It’s an odd submission but it’s easily put together and can be chained to other options, I definitely like it but to be honest the best option will always be that triangle off the omoplata or doing a reverse omoplata.

-AboveThisFire

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall

I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal

by Patrick Tenney on Sep 20, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

There’s a lot of creative alternative submissions/sweeps from the omo plata position if it’s not working out. Marcelo Garcia has a dvd dedicated to the omo plata with some really slick moves, including a wristlock if they try to snake their trapped arm back out. I can’t recall there ever being a wristlock submission in MMA but if you have ever trained with a world class black belt that knows how to get them from basically any position, it is frightening. They are by far the fastest submissions, the onset of pain happens before you even know what’s up.

by Democritus on Sep 20, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

For sure, definitely love the omoplata, probably in my top 5 most used submissions. Marcelo Garcia’s new game 4 is the set you’re talking about and I’ve watched his omoplata sections like… a gazillion times haha.

Also yes, wristlocks are incredibly f’n painful.

-AboveThisFire

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall

I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal

by Patrick Tenney on Sep 20, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

the omo plata is possibly my highest percentage submission actually, people consistently underestimate how much power and leverage I have in the position.

by Democritus on Sep 20, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think people tend to overlook the position because it takes SO much practice to be able to become a reliable finishing technique, too many people just accept it as a potential sweep or way to harass the opponent, not as a reliable way to submit them so they stop practicing the move and never really perfect completing the submission.

One of the instructors I’ve trained under just had me use the omoplata for 3 months, wasn’t allowed to do any other submission at all in training and I can tell you flat out that just doing that move to submit for three months made my game jump up remarkably especially because of the ways to transition in and out of the omoplata from essentially any and every position.

-AboveThisFire

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall

I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal

by Patrick Tenney on Sep 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Great discussion here.

Thanks Demo, ATF, and ANJ. I only understand about half of it, but I enjoy trying to figure it out.

Recs for substantive discussion. Sometimes I feel like folks only give recs for posting stupid gifs and zingers.

by Sabate on Sep 21, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve used to train with Bruninho back when he lived in Brazil and one of the main focuses of his classes was the omoplata. He could go for that submission from virtually every position.

by docsin on Sep 21, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

you should check out Marcelo’s dvd mentioned above, New Game 4. His omo plata from a straight ankle lock is particularly creative. I myself, really enjoy a spider guard omo plata, I call it the out-the-backdoor omo plata cause you momentarily allow them to feel like they are passing to side control and then you pivot underneath them to inverted and BAM. This move wouldn’t be wise to try out in mma though, sleeve grips are pretty crucial.

by Democritus on Sep 21, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m shocked he didn’t go for any leglock submissions in that last gif, he could’ve tried some nasty heel hooks there.

by Democritus on Sep 20, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

those are risky

in his first UFC he paid for going for leg locks and maybe has gotten more cautious

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by Nate Wilcox on Sep 20, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mitchell has good leglocks too,

especially training under David Terrell. Waldburger probably didn’t want to take the risk of playing footsy with a good grappler…he might have gone for it against a lesser grapplers.

He tried several heel hooks on Pat Healy, and used several of them to sweep…that’s definitely a fight worth looking up if you haven’t seen it.

by Scott Haber on Sep 20, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know Stumpf isn’t a high level opponent, but that was just ridiculous. He literally had his back taken less than 10 seconds into the fight…I think it may have been closer to five. That has to be yet another UFC record for Waldburger, right?

by Jeffigatame on Sep 20, 2011 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

oh that reminds me

I wanted to get that in this judo chop!
bad Kid Nate! bad!

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by Nate Wilcox on Sep 20, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES!

Thanks for the update. I was super impressed just by the speed at which he took his back, but it was real cool and informative to see the technique behind it as well. Awesome stuff.

by Jeffigatame on Sep 20, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah!

that leg kick to taking the back was incredible

by Democritus on Sep 20, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought it was pretty cool to see someone going for an armbar from side control, Walburger was going all out for the finish from the start

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by StevenGiles on Sep 20, 2011 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Epic update.

-AboveThisFire

The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino

If I live in a castle and you want to kill me, storming the gates is probably not the best idea. You'd do a lot better hitting me in the head with a brick when I come out for the mail. -Ryan Hall

I then rip off my shirt and do like a hulk scream and pose and then say to the kid " don’t you no I would fucking destroy you are you fucking retarded? -Areyouforreal

by Patrick Tenney on Sep 20, 2011 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

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