UFC on Fox 'Major Announcement' Conference Call Live Updates
by Mike Fagan on Sep 2, 2011 1:02 PM EDT
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The UFC announced a special media conference call for 1 p.m. ET today. Few details were announced outside of UFC President Dana White's participation, though White tweeted, "The "BIG Announcement" 2 morrow at 10 am will be the FOX fight. The UFC and FOX are so pumped for @UFCONFOXSports!!!!!!!!" after the press release was sent out.
Follow Mike Fagan on Twitter for live updates. Matt Roth will provide a running digest here, and check this post following the conclusion of the call for a full recap of the proceedings.
Speculation has, predictably, run rampant over the past 18 hours or so. Given the swirling information, my educated guess has these fighters most likely to appear in the show's main event, in order of likelihood: Frank Mir, Alistair Overeem, Brock Lesnar, Tito Ortiz, Rich Franklin, Dan Henderson, Mauricio Rua.
Mir has been linked in rumors to both Alistair Overeem and Brock Lesnar, and seems like a virtual lock at this point. All signs point to Overeem having signed with the UFC, even if he will not appear on the Fox show. Lesnar rumors have resurfaced, though Dana White penciled him in for a 2012 return. Tito Ortiz and Rich Franklin would be an OK, if uninspired, co-main, and an atrocious choice to head the card. Dan Henderson, according to various Twitter reports, has yet to sign with the UFC, while Mauricio Rua's camp claims they wouldn't be ready for a November date.
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Tito vs Franklin as ME would be disappointing
But fine for a co-main. I’m not expecting UFC to sacrifice a major PPV draw, but I’d like to see something more relevant in contenders or maybe lesser drawing champions.
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by KJ Gould on Sep 2, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Tito vs Franklin will be CO main event. Mir vs Overeem will be Main. Thats what my money is on
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I think the exact opposite
Tito vs Franklin headliner and mir vs overeem co main. Not my choice but from a business stand point, im going with the reverse.
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I expect Tito vs Franklin to be booked
But I also expect a top relevant fight as well
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Dana: We have our first fight on network television: Cain Velasquez vs. Junior dos Santos
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nicely done fellas! now that’s paying back the fans for the AS/Maia debackle. better late than never.
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by Hardy's in your face on Sep 2, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a feeling I’ll be extremely disappointed with the ME. I was really excited then I heard the Tito vs Franklin rumor and my excitement was deflated.
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by Tim Bernier on Sep 2, 2011 12:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It's a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT from Dana
After the last couple of them (mainly the SF buyout) we are due for a disappointing one.
I agree. Tito will be on the card to attract casuals but I disagree with people who think that a mainstream draw is needed or the event fails. Outside of tito who is known outside of the hardcore crowd? Almost no one other than brock. Who’s health is up in the air. I would like to see reem and mir. A clash of heavys is always attractive. Ortiz/ franklin co.main would get the casuals. Would be happier with a guida/ henderson co.main though.
by XingYi on Sep 2, 2011 12:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don't think Mir vs Overeem will headline
Overeem and Mir aren’t big enough household names to headline the very first card. It’s a great one for hardcores but casual fans, not so much. Tito vs Franklin makes more sense from a business stand point. Tito has huge draw and Franklin’s has declined as of recent, but he’s still a recognizable name.
we got a saying back home, if your coming on…come on!!!- harold howard
I have so much work to do
but i’m super psyched for this, i can barely get anything done.
Same here
I’m literally having to force myself to minimize this window for minutes at a time so I can try to get something done.
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by Piru P on Sep 2, 2011 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
From Mike Chiappetta
All indications seem to be that the UFC will announce a Cain Velasquez vs. Junior dos Santos championship fight for #UFConFOX debut.
Not officially booked! So its a big possibilty!!!!!!
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Interesting
Alright, well I can definitely get on board with that
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i was about to say this
i think this is the fight to do if you want to make a big impression.
mir v. overeem can headline the san jose card.
wouldn’t mind seeing cung le in that fight either. it would be great if he got just one fight in the UFC. maybe against akiyama? but it will never happen.
What worries me is their ability to keep the event at just 1 hour with a 3 rounder and a championship fight.
Boom
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I may have had a small siezure because of this
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is this streaming anywhere?
or is there only gonna be updates?
Anderson vs. Ochocinco
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by merryprankster on Sep 2, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The anticipation is killing me
by itsnotthatserious on Sep 2, 2011 12:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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Speculation growing that Cain Velasquez vs. JDS is on FOX. It was the only rumor I inquired about over last week that didn’t come back “no.”
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Sources told me that UFC on FOX’s main event will probably be Junior dos Santos vs Cain Velasquez for the heavyweight title.
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All but confirmed
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by SteveevaD on Sep 2, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hahahaha
I spit rice at my monitor.
You are awesome
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by hardlyworking on Sep 2, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
any chance the announcement is that Strikeforce has been folded and the fights are goona be Mir/Overeem and Machida Henderson?
by Our Bovine Public on Sep 2, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions
if SF was to dissolve I would much prefer Melendez and Jacare on the Fox card.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 2, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
NO....the casual fan and mindless public tuning in
would never watch MMA again. they need the big guys for a FOX debut.
by El Pablo Diablo on Sep 2, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I got it!
UFC will actually promote Women’s MMA and Cyborg will be the Co-Main event /sarcasm
Honestly though, AO v Mir with Ortiz v Franklin as a Co-Main sounds like a winner
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Matchups don't = major announcement
It’s something else.
If part of the announcement is who the main event will feature, that will only be a bonus, not the part that makes it “major.” They announce fights almost every day, including main events with big names, so it’s not major to announce a fight* with this kind of buildup.
*Unless Brock is part of the fight.
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did you miss the part
where white tweeted the announcement would be the FOX match up?
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Maybe he believes Roth
and White is just using “misdirection” for no apparent reason
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Read the twitter
“The “BIG Announcement” 2 morrow at 10 am will be the FOX fight."
It doesn’t say “matchup.” It will relate to the fight, but the matchup aspect is incidental.
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by Scabby Knuckle on Sep 2, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
My sourcs tell me...
The Silverback vs Jon Jones, another hype train derailed.
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is your source a 17 year old blogger?
by El Pablo Diablo on Sep 2, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Took me a second to remember that Silverback was Seth's nickname
The comment was funnier before I remembered that
Now Cain vs. JDS
THAT would be EPIC!!! I didn’t think they would move it to FOX though. We shall see. That is one that excites me. Should be fireworks too.
"I think he doesn't accept punches very well. I don't know why." - JDS speaking of Brock Lesnar
There's nothing epic about it!
All they did was move the fight up ONE WEEK! WOOOOOOOW!
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
They took one of the biggest fights of the entire year and moved it to a free card on network tv. If you don’t understand the multiple reasons why that is epic, then you are really hopeless.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 2, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Quick guys
Only like three more minutes to make sarcastic matchups!!
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
I'll accept it
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
Okay, I'm eating crow here
Dayumn. Dos Santos vs Velasquez on Fox…shiiiiat. I never expected them to put a fight of this magnitude there, let alone pull their HW title-fight. Biiig.
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I like it I really like it
Cain prolly cost less short term than GSP or Brcok and casuals love heavyweights
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WOW
Where are all the bozos that said they can’t do a five and three rounder in one hour?
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
NEVERMIND
It’s the only fight apaprently.
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
Yeah exactly
I was one of those “Bozos” and I said they wouldn’t do five rounds if there was going to be two fights.
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You're pretty awesome
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
I do my best
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AHHHHHHHHH!!@!#@!$$
YES YES YES YES! I’m having to take out my excitement on my keyboard because my office is dead quiet.
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Show prelims
It’s a full card.
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
No way they stay dark
I’m hoping FX or even Fuel, but Facebook is okay too.
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
Why is that a major announcement?
It just means shifting a fight from PPV to free TV. Are “casual” fans supposed to believe this is representative of what they’re going to be seeing each time there are fights on Fox? Good luck with that when they find out they’re getting a steady diet of TUF contestants.
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by Scabby Knuckle on Sep 2, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
wow
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by dgonz on Sep 2, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
...
"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world."
- Jack Layton
Actually, if you turn that 90 degrees
You’ll see the dropoff after the first broadcast, when it’s week after week of unknown TUF fighters.
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by Scabby Knuckle on Sep 2, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You keep saying this, but it’s stupid and wrong. Fox is paying the UFC a lot more than Spike was, so they are going to get a lot better product.
by Phildo on Sep 2, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
The sheer fact that it is on network tv will persuade the UFC to fill it up as much as possible. Obviously we won’t see title fights every card, but I’d expect to see big time fighters in the main event of all of them. With the undercards being mixed bags obviously.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 2, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Read about the deal with Fox. The vast majority of what’s being shown are TUF fights. In other words: not better than what Spike got.
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by Scabby Knuckle on Sep 2, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Ignorant bullshit
You have zero clue what you’re talking about.
"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world."
- Jack Layton
Wow, tough to argue with that logic. You win.
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by Scabby Knuckle on Sep 2, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, knock it off you two
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Sep 2, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
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by John Danaher's Hair on Sep 2, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Scabby Knuckle Dragger
So you think that the 4 shows per year on Network Fox are going to be TUF quality fighters? You have no idea idea what you’re talking about.
"This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war."
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by John Danaher's Hair on Sep 2, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
What are the other shows? How many of them are there? TUF, and plenty of it.
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by Scabby Knuckle on Sep 2, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
seasons of TUF are on F/X
and then there are going to be 4, PPV quality shows on Network T.V. every year. 4 free shows that aren’t Fight Night, or UFC on versus quality….what are you missing here? What can I do to help you help yourself?
"This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war."
"I’m ready. It doesn’t matter with who or where. On foot or on horseback. With maces or poleaxes. To fight. To first blood or to death. It doesn’t matter, I’m ready to fight. I went hunting. For bears. With a knife. " - Aleksander Emelianenko
by John Danaher's Hair on Sep 2, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Let him wallow in ignorant pain.
We don’t need him anyway.
Learn JiuJitsu.
Always looking for that new danger.
I think you mean 3 PPV quality shows.
One fight cards do not a PPV quality show make.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
this is a bonus card
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by John Danaher's Hair on Sep 2, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't confuse him with the facts
It messes up his ability to be irrationally bitter and angry.
"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world."
- Jack Layton
Misleading, or wrong - both?
Seems like you’re mixing up the UFC on Fox events and The Ultimate Fighter on FX events.
by FightingFighting on Sep 2, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Shut up
If everything is just going to be miserable and disappointing why do you bother watching, following, whatever?
Seriously, this is a landmark moment for MMA and all you can do is bitch and moan? Unreal.
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by Underhand Left on Sep 2, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha perfect representation of that comment above. perfect.
by El Pablo Diablo on Sep 2, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you
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by Underhand Left on Sep 2, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Consistent in failure
Before: “This isn’t a fight announcement, it’s a major announcement.”
After: “That wasn’t a major announcement, that was a fight announcement.”
by FightingFighting on Sep 2, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Or: consistent in terms of what I consider "major"
and this isn’t it.
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by Scabby Knuckle on Sep 2, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Than what is a major announcement in your eyes?
Because if you don’t think this is major that puts you in a very very very small minority.
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- Jack Layton
How is this "major"?
This fight was already announced. They just moved the date. If anything, we’re being cheated out of the extra super fight we all thought they were going to announce. Not to mention, their previously scheduled card on UFC 139 has taken a major hit. That card has lost all of its luster now. I guess it’s good news for FOX, but i don’t see why FOX’s good fortune excites you as a fan.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The Heavyweight Championship of the world
On free network TV (and perhaps the premier network channel), isn’t major? Are you even a fan of MMA?
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You guys are the slow ones.
We were gonna get it one week later anyway.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
And your still gonna watch the PPV the following week anyway.
Don’t act like you won’t. Or if the loss of the Cain/JDS fight makes you skip it, then it seems like this isn’t such a win for the UFC afterall. It would have been a much better announcement had they found a NEW big fight to headline this card, then we could have had consecutive weeks of BIG fights. They just sabotaged UFC139 to make the FOX card big.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is that so exciting for YOU?
Do you work for FOX? The UFC?
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
more eyes to the sport.
more fans, more money….for the fighters. use your head before you type. turn that light bulb on, eh?
by El Pablo Diablo on Sep 2, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that why it's exciting to YOU?
Because you’re a UFC fighter?
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
wow. thats all I have to say to that.
you arent capable of being happy for something good for the sport? for the fighters? are you even a fan of MMA? what are you doing here anyway?
by El Pablo Diablo on Sep 2, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's neutral for the sport...
…because the UFC139 card will suffer for it. or am am missing something in that regard.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s not a zero sum game. These guys are not major PPV draws, so it’s not like a lot of buys are disappearing, and that will be made up for by the huge exposure the week before the event on network TV.
There not PPV draws, but they'll draw on FOX?
I uope we’re not all expecting Kimbo-type numbers.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The point is that Fox will establish them
AS draws, so that the next PPV they’re on will draw. Why is that so hard to understand?
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
Sorry professor.
Your lecture is just too complex. But tell the dean, Mr. White, that his message has been received loud and clear.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
That's hard to say. By then he'd already lost much of his mystique...
…and yet the card still outperformed our most recent UFC card (134) by over 200k buys.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
this fight's gonna destroy the Kimbo numbers
UFC brand >>> Kimbo
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"I’m ready. It doesn’t matter with who or where. On foot or on horseback. With maces or poleaxes. To fight. To first blood or to death. It doesn’t matter, I’m ready to fight. I went hunting. For bears. With a knife. " - Aleksander Emelianenko
by John Danaher's Hair on Sep 2, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
139 is already a badass event from my perspective. Sure they will need to find a replacement main event, but that will happen.
Whether or not you consider that new main event worthwhile is up to you. Whether or not you consider having Cain and JDS for free on network tv shouldn’t be though.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 2, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
If this isn’t what you’d call major then there really is no point in anybody even discussing it with you. Not trying to be rude there, but that’s honesty sometimes.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 2, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
First off, I'd like to congratulate you on the perfect moniker.
Secondly, I’d like to offer my appreciation for your persistence on making lemonade out of lemons. Finally, I’d like to conclude by offering up one of my favorite BE cliches:
“Why is that so hard for you to understand?”
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
So your complaint is
the cool announcement wasn’t “major” enough? It’s just a word, man. NBD.
by FightingFighting on Sep 2, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That's exactly my argument.
Apparently that’s HIGHLY offensive around these parts.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What? Is prize fighting a charity now?
Do people watch football because it’s so important that the players become millionaires or is it so the NFL owners can stay BILLIONAIRES? I’m a fan of MMA, but it’s a symbiotic relationship. I care more about what I get out of the exchange than what they get. Any sensible consumer would say the same thing! I don’t applaud multi-billion dollar TV deals for the NFL and i don’t applaud moves that make billionaires like the Fertittas and Rupert Murdoch even more money. What the hell type of person celebrates another man’s dominance over the rest of mankind? If you’re celebrating this news because you can save your PPV dollars (I find it hard to believe that many people are paying 65 bucks without the aid of a few friends or the local sports bar anyway), then more power to YOU, but stop acting like if the UFC keeps getting bigger, that it’s gonna cost you any less (might even cost you more) in the long run.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Because it will attract more people to the sport of MMA
Are you seriously so naive that you can’t see how this is huge for the sport? And awesome for us as fans?
someone ban this clown, holy shit.
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-Huey Freeman
Please ban me for not being a mindless lemming.
BE apparently can’t appreciate differing opinions. Keep preaching to your choirs clones!
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’ t know about lemming, but you are acting kinda mindless. Was that fight a part of a show you were going to see live or something?
I’d rather just climb this fridge
No. I wasn't gonna watch it live.
My point is, if you like this newws because now you can save your 65 bucks on the UFC139 card, then that makes sense, but if this excites you because you theorize that it will somehow be huge for the sport or the fighters, then you’re misleading yourself. This NOT good for Urian Faber, Brian Bowles, Josh Koscheck, Matin kampmann, and the rest of the guys who are losing eyeballs from 139 as a result. And frankly, I don’t think this fight is gonna do the numbers people think it’s gonna do, nor do i think that subsequent PPVs are gonna see a spike in their numbers due to newly acquired eyeballs for the sport. Either way, it’s not a major announcement except for FOX and UFC execs.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
a 1 hour commercial on national television a week before their event is certainly going to fuck them right in the ass.
No it won't.
But it’s still not MAJOR news. If a major fight against Brock Lesnar doesn’t turn Cain into a draw, then neither will an ass whooping at the hands of JDS. The only thing I can see the UFC gaining out of this is that one of these fighters (the victor) will become a marginal draw in his subsequent fights. This event will do little for any other fighter in the sport.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Besides, remember when i wrote:
Either way, it’s not a major announcement except for FOX and UFC execs.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, what asshole mindless lemmings we are
for celebrating a huge accomplishment and step forward for the sport. Put your head back where it belongs and stop all the noise coming out of your ass.
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
by dgonz on Sep 2, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You're a lemming if you advocate dissenting opinions getting banned on BE.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I advocate pure concentrated essence of stupid getting banned on BE
You reek of it sir.
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
Your uppity retort doesn't dissuade in the slightest, my good sir.
You exhibit douchbaggery of the foulest order, and I bid you adieu. Cheerio.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
What the fuck are you talking about?
nobody is getting banned for dissenting opinions. GTFO with that shit.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Yeah right.
I’d prove it to you, but I’d probably get banned. I’ve already received a banning warning for being too “obtuse”. Sigh.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
www.mmamania.com
You’d fit in better over here.
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
Do people there think that their opinions are irrefutable...
simply because they possess forced garrulousness (ya like that?!). If not, then maybe I will fit in better over there. Apparently, according to you, those are where the LESSER MMA fans dwell.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Show me where I said anyone over is less of an mma fan?
I lurk on mania all the time, but you’ll fit in better in the comment sections over there. There’s more pointless bickering and illogical disagreements – much like what you’ve done here today. Congratulations by the way, you’ve found the link to http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary are we supposed to be impressed? You’ve sat here an admitted that you’ve been banned multiple times. That implies that someone doesn’t want you around. Why don’t you stop the whole “grow back and keep coming around like a fungus” routine and take the hint? I’m done with you kid, move on. Go look up more multisyllabic words to impress yourself with.
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
Well, you're insinuating that my opinions are lesser than yours...
…and that I’d fit in better over there. Hmmm. You do the math. I mean, why would a site that contains “more pointless bickering and illogical disagreements – much like what WE’ve done here today”, be considered any less, am I right? Is it also safe to assume that you didn’t catch the “garrulousness” joke. get it? I was criticizing this site, and you, for equating verboseness with sound arguments while being unnecessarily wordy myself. See how i did that?
Cliche usage #2: Why is that so hard for you to understand?
But you’re done with me, pop? I’m not welcome here? Aight. The fungus is outtie 5 thousand. Peace!…In the MIddle East…boooooooiiiiiii!!!
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
My evidence
is the fact that you’re still here, dissenting opinion and all. If you really did get banned like you say, you should be gone by now.
Strangely… you’re still here.
That said, if you don’t like our policies and want to keep bitching about them please feel free to leave.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
I've been banned multiple times. I'm here under a new name, fool.
And it’s THAT admission that I was afraid would get me banned again. That, in addition to the “don’t be obtuse” warning are sure to get me banned this time around, unless the BE mods decide to abstain in order to try and prove me wrong.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Calling Barton "fool"
Is what’s going to bring about the hammer again.
"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world."
- Jack Layton
Yep
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Sep 2, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We don't always get along
But i applaud you Mr. Barton.
"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world."
- Jack Layton
now that was foolish.
HA see what i did there. yaaaaaa……im lame.
by El Pablo Diablo on Sep 2, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You're going to spend it the following week ANYWAY!
And if you don’t then that’s BAD news for the fighters and the sport!
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Well then save your money.
That should be GREAT for the sport!
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You got the right idea.
A consumer should be excited about what’s best for themselves! All this “it’s great for the sport, it’s great for the fighters” is BS!
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Less PPV money for UFC 139 means less money for those fighters!
With the UFC’s sponsorship fee, I’m sure they’re making out nicely, too.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
more eyes, more fans, more attendence
more PPV buys. in the long run this is great for everybody involved. Its not anyones fault but your own if you cant put that all together in the cynical head of yours.
by El Pablo Diablo on Sep 2, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm willing to bet anything you want...
….that the impact of the FOX fight will be negligible on subsequent PPV buys. These guys aren’t monster draws. The UFC already has tons of fans, and still can’t get US fans excited about an Anderson Silva title fight! I don’t care if 30 million viewers tune it to watch JDS vs Cain (which definitely won’t happen), the following week’s card wil STILL be a bust!
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
in all honesty,
this entire year has been a bust compared to last year as far as PPV purchases. but compared to 5 years ago….10 years ago, its pretty incredible.
But putting on a fight that is all but a garanteed slobber-knocker, featuring heavyweights (which the general public eats up) in a title fight will turn new eyes onto the sport and will very much so affect growth and PPV numbers down the road. The sport has more or less plateaued over the last year, and this is an enormous opportunity to kick start some new growth and create some new fans.
This is smart business 101.
by El Pablo Diablo on Sep 2, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Get this idea in your head already. It ISN’T the money that is making most people excited. It’s what this could mean for the sport if it goes over well and draws huge numbers.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 2, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Tell that to the people who are celebrating the 65 bucks they'll save!
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s a thought… Maybe those people only really cared about the Cain/JDS bout. Maybe they are saving 65 bucks.
by Empty Thoughts on Sep 2, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I get that!
What I don’t get is why you are countering an argument I made specifically for the “saving-my-65-bucks” crowd with an “it’s not about the money” counter-argument.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s exciting for me because I don’t have to spend any money to see that fight, and because the first fight on fox has a much better chance of being successful, and because it being successful means lots of good things for the sport and the fans.
Instead you'll spend that 65 bucks on a lackluster card the following week...
…or are you planning on NOT supporting the fighters on UFC 139?
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know what I’m doing, but I, like many people in the world, don’t think 65 dollars for 3 hours of fighting is worthwhile`and order the card with a group when I think it is. I’m not sure if I’m going to be watching UFC 139, but if I don’t, I’m sure more than 1 person will have their mind changed the other way after watching UFC on fox 7 days before.
More than 1...sure...literally!
But not many.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
how many main events recently have been scrapped due to injury?
This one got scrapped because we’re seeing it ON NETWORK TELEVISION! If the idea of Cain and JDS fighting on network t.v. in front of the largest television audience ever for an MMA fight in the US, then I don’t know what to tell you.
"This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war."
"I’m ready. It doesn’t matter with who or where. On foot or on horseback. With maces or poleaxes. To fight. To first blood or to death. It doesn’t matter, I’m ready to fight. I went hunting. For bears. With a knife. " - Aleksander Emelianenko
by John Danaher's Hair on Sep 2, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
If the idea of Cain and JDS fighting on network t.v. in front of the largest television audience ever for an MMA fight in the US
I doubt that.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
which MMA fight in hostory...
will end up with higher ratings?
"This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war."
"I’m ready. It doesn’t matter with who or where. On foot or on horseback. With maces or poleaxes. To fight. To first blood or to death. It doesn’t matter, I’m ready to fight. I went hunting. For bears. With a knife. " - Aleksander Emelianenko
by John Danaher's Hair on Sep 2, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you for real?
I’m dumbfounded by how clueless your statement is.
"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world."
- Jack Layton
You're correct, of course
It only means that they’re feeding everyone one major fight for free, then it’s back to shelling out cash if you want something similar. As I said, after they whet the appetites of the “casuals” with this one, what’s the reaction when the next telecast is “Nobody You Know vs. Warm Body” from TUF?
.....
Get on board the Jake Train® . Next stop: Fight Night 25® Winner's Circle!
by Scabby Knuckle on Sep 2, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
just wait and see before pissing all over everybodys parade.
by El Pablo Diablo on Sep 2, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont even like parades.....
except ones with beer floats. like bay to breakers. but not last year, since beer floats were banned.
by El Pablo Diablo on Sep 2, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, you might be right.
They may actually be running the risk of increased expectations from fight fans. “You gave me JDS/Cain for free, why should I pay for Lesser fighter A vs. Lesser fighter B?” But really, I expect that this FOX fight, especially with its less than appealing one or two fight lineup, will do little to create a sustained increase in the fanbse.
by Grease S. Pieces on Sep 2, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Learn JiuJitsu.
Always looking for that new danger.
by RolloTomasi on Sep 2, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Someone’s been spying on me….
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
Malki Kawa?
Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
by Mike Fagan on Sep 2, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Exactly what I was getting at
He sent a mole into my camp.
I’m fighting Jon Jones in like 3 weeks.
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
I know, bra
He’s totally gonna see it coming now. :(
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
Notify next of kin
Also, I want your Griffey Jr rookie card.
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
Jones?
>:D
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Sep 2, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
great fight to put on free tv, I’ll echo your dance gif with my own
by pr0cs on Sep 2, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can’t stand Usher, JT all day!
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Sep 2, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If you don't know why this is a major announcement,
You never will, stop asking.
www.ninjasplace.com
Makes perfect sense
Neither guy is a proven draw but both have some hype going.
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
Where is the announcement?
I keep refreshing the damn page…
Anderson Silva is, and forever will be the greatest of all time.
Where can I buy my Cerrone cowboy hat?
Don't know
Twitter I assume
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
I think we'll wind up seeing more than one fight
Although I guess it depends on how much time they use for pre-fight stuff.
And how much time they spend hawking the PPV
I hope this doesn’t turn into an infomercial that happens to include a fight.
Dana White vs Frank Shamrock
Settle it in the cage!
by MuyThaiGroinAssault on Sep 2, 2011 1:13 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
woot and such
Learn JiuJitsu.
Always looking for that new danger.
by RolloTomasi on Sep 2, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
(I prefer that gif without the vegeta haircut turning into a goku haircut)
"Don't worry about a thang...I got this"
by spectaa on Sep 2, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRD
by IRodC on Sep 2, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I can’t help but imagine what a Kamehameha in the guard would do. If those guys knew BJJ they wouldn’t have needed to transform so much.
"Don't worry about a thang...I got this"
Dude
could you fucking imagine what a ss3 Palhares could do to Frieza!?!?
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Sep 2, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
ah ok, makes sense
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Sep 2, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd for true fandom
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
best thing I've ever seen
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
so perfect
better than that damn movie.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Sep 2, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I refuse to acknowledge that the movie exists..
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
Every time I glance at your name I see Dragon Ball Z, seriously.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Sep 2, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha I'm going to take that as a compliment. I grew up on DBZ.
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
where is BE reader JasonAmadi?
He argued this fight happening. I want my comeuppance
by silent.bisonte33 on Sep 2, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions
Driving to Mexico
He can’t to face the humiliation.
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
by Charles Awad on Sep 2, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You really want internet comeuppance?
Anderson Silva is, and forever will be the greatest of all time.
Where can I buy my Cerrone cowboy hat?
i want whatever i can get
from the wretched internet
by silent.bisonte33 on Sep 2, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh really?
Matt Roth will provide a running digest here
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Pay yer bill
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
by Charles Awad on Sep 2, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not paying for this shit. I told them that much.
This shit’s gone down daily.
Follow me on twitter @MattRoth512
Internet should be free. But instead, it’s slow and expensive.
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
Korea internets FTW
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Internet should be free. But instead, it’s slow and expensive.
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
and also occasionally makes you double post
by Our Bovine Public on Sep 2, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that was my own stupidity
But let’s blame Comcast instead.
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
Even better
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
"Superbowl treatment"
With celebs? Sounds like a bad idea. Hopefully we get C-listers that know about MMA
KEVIN JAMES
Anderson Silva is, and forever will be the greatest of all time.
Where can I buy my Cerrone cowboy hat?
Shaq
The only substitute for victory is overkill.
by Underhand Left on Sep 2, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Great idea actually
Its in LA on prime time network TV.
I’m sure there will be plenty of A-listers willing to get some camera time.
"I'm ready for fight. If I'm win, no win. I don't know. But, I'm ready for fight. This is my working[shrugs shoulders]" - Anderson Silva
So one fight for an hour on Fox right before the Paciauo – Marquez fight. Me thinks prelims will be on another Fox Sports channel or on facebook. Red Carpet treatment? I don’t care who’s there cause it might be a bunch of people trying to be seen. If I see nicki Minaj in the audience, then this is officially mainstream which can be a double edged sword.
Bottom line: Cain vs JDS for free then Paciuao vs Marquez for free as long as I keep buyin jack and cokes and wings. I like it.
Me > Ben Henderson
@KrimsonTVN
DIA2ill.com coming soon....
You'll get lil wayne in woman pants and like it
by IRodC on Sep 2, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No……
NO……
NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Me > Ben Henderson
@KrimsonTVN
DIA2ill.com coming soon....
by Krimson on Sep 2, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I was checking his twitter the whole time and it was being updated with info
But I never use my twitter so I couldn’t tell you how to check lol
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
What, really? That’s strange.. I’m not logged in but I’ve been updating his twitter url several times and the latest tweet I can see if from 13 hours ago saying “And now I start the Wire.”
by Horselover Fat on Sep 2, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, so I found out what was wrong. Just noticed the “20 new tweets” button. I don’t know why the hell it wouldn’t just show them to me without me seeing that button and clicking it, but yeah, sure enough there were some tweets hidden there. Damn.
by Horselover Fat on Sep 2, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
haha happens to the best of us. I sat there for a few minutes and wondered what was taking so long before I noticed that.
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
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