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Mayweather vs. Ortiz: Oscar De La Hoya and Bob Arum Disappointed By Unsportsmanlike Behavior

Oscar De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather.

The top two promoters in boxing, in Oscar De La Hoya and Bob Arum rarely get along, but aside from additional promoterspeak, their statements on the highly controversial Floyd Mayweather vs. Victor Ortiz bout are pretty similar. Disappointment.

Golden Boy Promotion's Oscar De La Hoya, who sort-of has Mayweather on his stable, finally commented on the situation on his twitter page. He says he will push for a rematch:

Ortiz took it to the street and Mayweather finished it in the street. Bad sportsmanship by Mayweather. ORTIZ was just warming up, a young lion does not deserve to go out like that and i will fight for Ortiz to have a rematch. But I feel Mayweather looked good and Ortiz looked good.

Terrible head butt by Ortiz and should have been deducted 2 points, but to win the way he won was not right. Ortiz deserves a rematch!!! ...And sorry to say but the ref. was lost as can be.

Top Rank's Bob Arum, who is Manny Pacquiao's promoter, says he's disgusted: (HT: BadLeftHook)

Whether it was legal or not legal, it was unsportsmanlike behavior [by Mayweather] and it was a cheap shot [by Mayweather]. I'm disgusted by what I saw.

For this kid to take off on Larry Merchant the way he did and use the language that he did - it was a disgrace.

[Ortiz] intentionally headbutted Mayweather. It is inexcusable, but he paid the penalty, which was the deduction of one point. That doesn't excuse unsportsmanlike behavior and throwing a cheap shot like Mayweather did. That's not something Pacquiao would do. That's not something that any of the fighters that I had in the eighties would do, like Leonard, Hearns and Hagler. It's just inexcusable behavior.

Obviously, with these two promoters, you have to take their statements with a grain of salt. Although not technically a Golden Boy Fighter, Mayweather has been working with/for De La Hoya for several fights now. Arum on the other hand, genuinely dislikes the guy, and would probably not have said the same had his Top Rank fighters been involved. That being said, and ignoring the added promotional-speak about his other fighters, I pretty much agree with what Arum said.

The punch was legal, but very unsportsmanlike, and I firmly believe that one disgraceful act shouldn't excuse another. Ortiz showed his inexperience by letting his emotions get the better of him on the heat of the moment. He threw a blatant headbutt that he got penalized for, and sure, part of the blame should be put on him, but Floyd should've been above that. Mayweather always boasts about how legendary a fighter he is, but he should've acted like one in the ring by being mature enough to not have that eye for an eye mentality.

Although this is Floyd Mayweather we are talking about, so while he should have been above it, I can't really say I was completely surprised that he wasn't.

After the jump, Arum talks about the referee, and addresses Mayweather's steroid allegations stemming from Manny Pacquiao's rise in weight.

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Here's Arum's thoughts on Cortez, who got a bit of criticism during all the confusion in the ring:

Cortez, in my opinion, did a very poor job. When the foul came, he properly took a point away, and when the action continued he should have looked at both fighters and said 'fight.' He didn't do that. He was looking at the timekeeper apparently, and said 'time in.' But that is not communicating with an Ortiz. Do I think Cortez did a poor job? Yes I do.

On Mayweather claiming Pacquiao's weight gain is unnatural:

When they were both 16, they were both at the same weight, 105-pounds. Floyd was an amateur because he had the benefit of living in America, and Pacquiao was a professional because he was living on the streets of Manila. But they were both 105-pounds when they started at 16, you can look it up.

As always, do check out Bad Left Hook's more comprehensive coverage of the event.

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Mayweather look like he did not want any part of that hug, this was NOT like when in mma two fighters put out there arms like there going to tap gloves and then one punches the guy.

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by Kefka on Sep 19, 2011 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

Floyd was blocking Ortiz’ hug with his forearms.. if Victor wasn’t so concerned with doing his best Care Bear impression, maybe he wouldn’t have been knocked out during the biggest fight of his career.

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by ElliotMatheny on Sep 19, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get it.

If Floyd didn’t pretend to accept the hug, why did he approach Ortiz? Is the same fashion that Ortiz should’ve known to keep his hands up, Floyd should’ve known to remain in the corner until told otherwise. Floyd pretended and he knows it.

by Cestus84 on Sep 19, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because you have to approach a guy to exchange blows...

what are you expecting? Floyd running around a ring away from Ortiz’s hugs? They were told to continue. One person did…the other, kept acting like a moron.

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by UMBC Oriole fan on Sep 19, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Floyd...

approached Ortiz before Cortez said time.

by Cestus84 on Sep 19, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does the fight start w/ both fighter in the middle of the ring face to face or in their respective corners?

by Cestus84 on Sep 19, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

And apparently...

Cortez was okay with this. So are we now expecting boxers to self regulate themselves middle of the ring?

So now, if anyone facing another boxer, keeps their hands low and just wants to hug it out, the opponent is supposed to just stand there like a moron too?

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by UMBC Oriole fan on Sep 19, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cortez wasn't ok w/ it.

He fucked up and realized it was too late and instead of correcting it, he just let it go, thats not him being ok w/ it, its him covering his own ass for fucking up. He totally lost control of the fight and Floyd took advantage of it. I’m not saying Floyd is the only person to blame here but he didn’t make matters better by taking advantage of Cortez fuck up. So regardless of where or not Cortez was ok w/ this, Floyd made a dick move and he know’s it, thats why he went off on Merchant, because he know Larry was gonna put him on the spot.

by Cestus84 on Sep 19, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He didn’t pretend to accept anything. he didn’t pretend to accept the first few apologies, and when Ortiz went for the last one Mayweather had his hands up in a boxing stance because he was in the middle of a boxing match.

by Phildo on Sep 19, 2011 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Given the head butt was BS

But like I said a sucker punch is a bitch move. Mayweather could of won without it.

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by Bloodsport on Sep 19, 2011 3:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

“could have won”

by shamo84 on Sep 19, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you should go to high school now. Kids gang up on you

by Gisele Federico Navarro Mendez on Sep 19, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Patton would have been proud of Mayweather.

I’m not a Mayweather fan. Never have been, nor ever will be, but I find no fault in how he handled it. Oritz pulled the first bitch move, which was completely illegal; Mayweather’s move may have been a bitch move, but at least it was legal and in retaliation. If you act like a bitch, you get treated like a bitch. As they (not me) says, “All’s fair in love and war.”

by Braccesca on Sep 19, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This

I’m not getting the Mayweather hate at all. Ortiz threw a flying headbutt lol, that shit’s illegal even in mma! Mayweather was emotional and upset due to Ortiz’ bullshit move. Ortiz should’ve kept his damn hands up anyways. He got clocked with a hook and just fucking stood there! Why the fuck if you’re a professional fighter would you just stand there after a guy punches you square in the face?

I also wouldn’t say that it was a cheap shot. Daley/Kos was a cheap shot due to Kos having his back turned. Ortiz was facing Mayweather. It’s not Floyd’s fault that Ortiz had a huge brain fart that night.

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by SentientAndroid on Sep 19, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you know how many legendary fighter who fought dirty?

So many legendary fighters were dirty.
For example Guys like Jack Dempsey, Harry Greb, Bernard Hopkins.
You know what Old timers would do to Ortiz if he head butted them like he did Floyd?
What they would do if someone were so stupid and had their hands down and hugged?

by Mohammedini Hussein on Sep 19, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why are people acting like Ortiz was getting outclassed?

Did everyone see a different fight than I did? Going into the fourth my scorecard was 29-29.
1) 10-9 Ortiz
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by joeshowradio on Sep 19, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know a number of people scored all rounds for Mayweather Jr.

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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 19, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ortiz won the 2nd, could’ve potentially won the 4th. I guess he got caught in the moment which isn’t a valid excuse. But all these people are coming out and saying that Ortiz didn’t stand a chance obviously are marks for Mayweather and failed to see the fight.

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by Krimson on Sep 19, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

the only way to observe that Ortiz was losing is explained by people being Mayweather “marks”. Mayweather is a slow starter, and if Ortiz was winning it was because Floyd wasn’t active. There’s simply nothing about Victor’s performance that makes me think he would have gotten better as the fight wore on (conversely, there’s plenty to indicate he would have slowed down).

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by David Castillo on Sep 19, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ill give credit where it is due: Floyd Mayweather has created a career through sheer force of will. For you BE fans who dont follow boxing, you may not be aware, Mayweather was a nobody for years. He couldnt draw fans TO HIS OWN HOME TOWN!! He constantly had to go to other fighters hometowns because he couldnt sell tickets on his own. His boring style has created a situation where he has never really had an interesting or compelling fight. As his career has gone on, he has never really faced a true welterweight in his prime, not a single time (his main chance was when Margarito offered him 8 million, and he turned it down…….repeat, he turned it down). However, the one thing Mayweather has going for him is this: the mainstream media doesnt pay any attention to boxing. Therefore, if you just SAY your a legend enough times, eventually the distracted sports media will just start taking your word for it. The truth is, hes barely a borderline Hall of Famer and would have gotten annihilated in under 5 rounds by Tommy Hearns.As far as Ortiz, why were we pretending this guy was ever good? Why, because Mayweather the promoter SAYS he is? this is a guy who was in a draw with Lamont Peterson 9 months ago, he sucks to begin with. The Sugar Rays, Hearns, Widfred Benitez’s, these guys wouldnt WANT to win that way. IS it legal? Sure. Is it a cheap shot bitch move? Yup.

by Hutchy on Sep 19, 2011 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. That's why he left arum to begin with.

And here comes arum now, making comments and taking floyd’s behavior to the negotiating table. His comments are as meaningful as mine. He had no stake in that fight, he’s just going to hold it against Floyd and keep bringing it up when the topic of a fight with manny comes up.

by Gideon Jay on Sep 19, 2011 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re talking BS. Mayweather has been an HBO level fighter for over a decade. His wins over Manfredy and Corralles were legitimately brilliant performances, both TKO wins.
A guy called Shane Mosley splattered Margarito all over the ring in 2008. Guess who beat Mosley immediately after that?

by sheikybaby on Sep 19, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've stayed out of this because it seems like a pointless argument.

But I can’t believe how little people care about what Ortiz did, or when they do acknowledge it they rationalize it with the fact that he was deducted a point. I may not have watched that many boxing fights, but damn that was blatant. And if your rationale is that it’s okay because even though it wasn’t within the rules, he was punished… Well what Floyd did was within the rules, so apparently everyone is just mad because he can’t be punished for it. Let me simply, maturely say…. Waaahhhhh.

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by Zachary Kater on Sep 19, 2011 3:08 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Nah.

Mainly just the majority of the comments I read in the other comment sections compounded with Bob Arum’s statement in this one. I think everyone is just quick to only condemn Floyd because he’s much easier to hate. I agree, they were both dumb things to do. But I think the vast majority of the blame for Floyd’s actions lies on the referee’s negligence.

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by Zachary Kater on Sep 19, 2011 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

the ref could’ve saved this whole thing from going down.

by jthin on Sep 19, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think it’s due to the finish. IF Ortiz had shattered Mayweather’s orbital bone with his forehead-to-face antics then everyone would be seriously attacking Ortiz, BUT since Mayweather was fine and his LEGAL antics brought him a tko finish, people are putting way more stock into that instead.

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by SentientAndroid on Sep 19, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. Basically people are mad at Mayweather because he was more successful with his cheapshot than Ortiz was with his. Well, that and the fact that he’s Mayweather.

by Jeffigatame on Sep 19, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arum shouldn’t be allowed to talk. Guy is ruining great fights for everyone by not letting Pacquiao go to 150 to fight Sergio Martinez, a guy who has been calling Manny out for a while now. Instead, we got Pacquiao against a bunch of guys who had no business being in the same ring as him. It’s pathetic. I just hate Arum. I really do. He annoys the crap out of me.

by FlyByKnight on Sep 19, 2011 3:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Bob Arum is a scumbag. He gets up in arms over this yet defended Margarito when he was caught with loaded gloves. Ridiculous.

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by Jack.Barrington on Sep 19, 2011 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Martinez just recently agreed to 150

and imo only started to deserve the shot at Pacquiao after knocking out Williams less than a year ago. I think Pacquiao vs. Martinez has a good chance of happening after the Marquez fight though because I have a feeling Mayweather still won’t fight Pacquiao.

You’re right about Arum being a douche though.

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by FlyByKnight on Sep 19, 2011 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s not something that any of the fighters that I had in the eighties would do

Arum must have forgotten how Duran won his lightweight title?

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by Jack.Barrington on Sep 19, 2011 3:30 AM EDT reply actions  

He hit Ken Buchanan below the belt and just after the bell had rung for the end of the 13th round (he was ahead on the scorecards anyway). Arum had Duran signed to him later in his career, in the 80s.

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by Jack.Barrington on Sep 19, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why the fuck did Oscar show up to that press conference looking like Mr. Rogers?

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by sBruce24 on Sep 19, 2011 3:37 AM EDT reply actions  

What’s with bro hugs in combat sports?

Just fucking fight, save your apologies for later. I don’t want to see anyone bro hugging in combat sports, I expect them to go to war round bell to round bell.

You don’t see people in football or hockey or even K1 kickboxing bro hugging inbetween carries, slap shots or leg kicks.

Dunno why boxing and MMA have the bro hug factor, but it is stupid and you should get penalized for stalling after repeat offences.

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by DirtyML on Sep 19, 2011 4:02 AM EDT reply actions  

If anything we might see a bit less bro hugs for some time (at least in boxing) and we can be thankful to Mayweather for it. You can bro hug a bro if you want, not an opponent, or he might just do this to you and get away with it.

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by spectaa on Sep 19, 2011 5:25 AM EDT reply actions  

a rematch lol

Money Man will toast Ortiz for rounds to come instead of having a quick finish like he did.

Leave it to PBF to find a way to make this match so talked about, kudos to his promoting skills.

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by elmojo on Sep 19, 2011 5:33 AM EDT reply actions  

That head-butt...

Man, Mayweather could have come across with a quick right elbow as Ortiz was head-butting him, and ended the fight right there… Should have grabbed the back of Ortiz’ head with his left glove and smashed his face with the hard right elbow. Fight fucking over.

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by IKiIIed007 on Sep 19, 2011 5:39 AM EDT reply actions  

That man just lost his cool.

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by spectaa on Sep 19, 2011 6:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone calling for a rematch is nuts. This fight was nowhere near close and everybody who was saying Victor was coming back are either major Ortiz marks, blind or downright retarded. This fight was nothing more than a glorified sparring session for Floyd.

It is a shame it ended like it did, because Ortiz would have been outta there in another round or two anyways giving everyone the chance to say how he didn’t deserve to be there and Floyd handpicks his opponents yada yada yada.

Bob Arum is just a grumpy, greedy old man and De La Hoya will be the first boxer to be in the hall of fame without beating a great opponent. What Floyd did was nowhere near as bad as things people such as Chael Sonnen, Rousimar Palhares, Gilbert Yvel, Thiago Silva, Renato Sobral etc have done.

by vicesquad26 on Sep 19, 2011 6:03 AM EDT reply actions  

EXACTLY!

Why would anyone want a rematch? Other than that single flurry leading up to the headbutt, Ortiz did shit.

And after that blatant illegal move, he lost the right to have his face punched in for next 8 or so rounds.

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by UMBC Oriole fan on Sep 19, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

The punch was legal, but very unsportsmanlike, and I firmly believe that one disgraceful act shouldn’t excuse another

Took it a bit too far with this. Ortiz’s headbutt was disgraceful. Ortiz’s first apology was just as disgraceful because what he did wasn’t an accident. And then his next apology, while time was in, was just idiotic.

What Mayweather did, KO someone under questionable (to some) circumstances was shady at best. Not disgraceful.

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by dbcb on Sep 19, 2011 6:42 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Iam glad Mayweather punched the dude, I hate glove tapping, hugging, high fives,whatever once the fight is on. If Floyd hugged back and then slip a punch in, I would have seen that as dirty fighting, but Floyd did not want any part of that hug.

Once the fight is on one fighter should not be force to delay because the other dude wants to tap gloves,hug or whatever else.

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by Kefka on Sep 19, 2011 7:25 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

amen

money didn’t want anything to do with the first hug. then a minute later, here comes ortiz for a second hug which money wanted nothing to do with. what does ortiz do next? he comes in for a third hug. good night. anyone that thinks mayweather wanted anything to do with hugging it out must not have seen the entire sequence of events.

by tha dude on Sep 19, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

3 hugs? Did Ortiz test positive for MDMA after the fight?

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by menckenstein on Sep 19, 2011 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes, 3

the hug and kiss immediately after the headbutt, then the hug in the middle of the ring, then he came in for another hug right after the second. sounds like you’ve only seen the gif of the KO. watch the whole sequence, uncut, from the time of the headbutt. 3 hugs, and money didn’t want any of them. he came to fight.

by tha dude on Sep 19, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

most people

just want to hate on the dude thats al

by LoBoTrOn on Sep 19, 2011 8:02 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

LOL!

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by SentientAndroid on Sep 19, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two promoters not making any money out of Mayweather don’t like what he did, who’d have thought it! Mayweather ought to load his gloves for his next fight, that should get Arum onside.

by sheikybaby on Sep 19, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I didn't see any indication that the fight began

I can’t defend Ortiz. I wanted him to win, I’ve been following the kid for awhile and this happened made me wanna smack fiyah out of him.

I didn’t see the ref let anyone know that the fight started. Then he turned to the timekeeper. It’s hard fo rme to sit here and beleive that Joe Cortez said something to restart the fight especially with the confusion. Mayweather took the oportunity and took him out. Cause that’s what champions do and all these groupies will agree.

That doesn’t mean this fight wasn’t wierd as a whole. Everyone is at fault. I would’ve accepted Mayweather if he just beat him without any cheap shots.

And seriously….stop asking for Pacqiuao vs Mayweather. I’m done pleading for it. Let me know when they sign a contract. Until then, Nonito Donaire, Sergio Martinez, and Canelo Alvarez are my go to guys.

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by Krimson on Sep 19, 2011 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

He brought his hands together and said “let’s go.” I’m not sure what else he was supposed to do. Was he supposed to say “box” is that a magic word? Did every fight reffed by mills lane not happen because he said “let’s get it on” instead of box?

If it was so confusing, why did the timekeeper start counting the fall immediately? Wouldn’t’ he have been confused if the guy was on the ground but the clock wasn’t running?

by Phildo on Sep 19, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

you gotta watch it with the sound turned on. gifs don’t give you the whole story.

by tha dude on Sep 19, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lots of reasons to hate on Money

This ain’t one of them.

Ortiz is an idiot and Mayweather did what the referee should have done after the blatant intentional headbutt, he ended the fight.

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by Worldisart on Sep 19, 2011 9:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

protect yourself at all times. thats all i have to say

money did exactly what he should have. ortiz was stupid

by smcsoud8908 on Sep 19, 2011 9:38 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

i was unaware

that mayweather and paul daley train together. daley has a lot turn learn, atleast he sounds cooler.

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by Sterling Archer on Sep 19, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

This fits perfectly to duck Paq and get another payday.

Honestly, they couldn’t have planned it better. It allows them to tie up a guaranteed fight, because of all the “controversy” probably will get more PPV, and i’m sure most boxing fans/press are completely ok with a rematch.

Obviously i’m not saying it was planned, just it’s prefect from a promoter and Mayweather pay day point of view. Let’s face it, Money isn’t know for being a “sports man”. Being the casual boxing fan that I am, don’t see this being big deal. It’s great that Mayweather gets to be a loud mouth and rough (take note Diaz, he still did the interview then immediately rebuffed it, creating massive hype for any potential next fight. )

by squaresphere on Sep 19, 2011 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Ortiz got what he deserved

that’s what happens when you blatantly throw illegal headbutts. And can we PLEASE stop with the Mayweather is ducking Manny bs? Didn’t Mayweather say that he’d gladly fight Manny as long as Manny signed up for Olympic style drug testing? Manny supposedly declined because they could take his blood up to two weeks before the fight and he felt that he’d be too weak to compete at his best :/ I’d think that 336 hours would be enough time for you to recover whatever blood that you lost during a blood test.

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by SentientAndroid on Sep 19, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

mayweather constantly makes up execuses or guidelines to fight manny, i consider that ducking he should just fight him. and as for the sucker punch it was very unsportsmanlike but as much as it was unsportsmanlike it was very legal

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by chavez_26 on Sep 19, 2011 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Just for my own clarity.

Arum was the guy that called MMA fans skin heads right? This is the guy that’s known to be an out and out racist?

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by rask4p on Sep 19, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Mayweather did what most other boxers would have done...

…I box at a gym full of mostly amateurs with a few pros sprinkled on top. The general consensus is 1) What Floyd did was completely legit & 2)We would all do the same thing ourselves.
All of you guys who are commenting about ‘unsportsmanlike behaviour’ are obviously not familiar with a few of boxing’s maxims. In a fight, you fight fire with fire. If you get hit with an illegal blow, on numerous occasions, and the ref isn’t protecting you, you have to take matters into your own hands. It happens all the time in boxing. Also you are taught from the day you start sparring ‘PYAAT’.
Essentially you keep your hands up at all times and never take your eyes off your opponent. In throwing that blatant headbutt Ortiz must have known retribution in some form was coming, you could see in Floyd’s demeanor, in his eyes. He wasn’t a happy bunny.
At the end of the day Floyd did what most other boxers would do. He’s done it before (the Mosley fight) and given the chance he will do it again. It was legit and that is the end of the story.

by Mr. Braun on Sep 19, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Mayweather works with Golden Boy but not for. Mayweather put up the money and if the event is called off etc. he loses money.

On the other hand he also benefits from all money profited from the fight from international sale to even concession stand sales. He even cut himself the $25 million dollar paycheck for the fight

by Papercut Elbow on Sep 19, 2011 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

It was a cheap shot, Lets get over it.

Does Bob Arum know anything about the boxers that he promotes? Pacquiao has blatantly admitted in the past that he had put weights in his pockets to reach the 105lb limit when he was 16 so im not sure that argument made any sense whatsoever or helped reinforce anyone’s belief in the fact that Manny gained the weight naturally.

But like Anton said, Grain of salt.

BJ Penn and Shogun Rua fan for life.

by Chin Check on Sep 19, 2011 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

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