Mayweather Vs. Ortiz Results: Manny Pacquiao, Dana White Respond
by Nate Wilcox on Sep 18, 2011 2:12 PM EDT
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Floyd Mayweather stopped Victor Ortiz in brutal and controversial fashion last night in the fourth round of their mega-bout. Naturally Manny Pacquiao, the other superstar boxer in the world, a man who's been trying to coax Mayweather into the ring for the past 18 months, had to comment on the fight.
Pacquiao told Philboxing that "(Mayweather's final punch), was, to say the least, unsportsmanlike."
Pacquiao advisor Michael Koncz elaborated, "No, Mayweather should not be faulted for what happened," Pacquiao's Canadian adviser Michael Koncz quoted the pound-for-pound king as saying. "Manny thinks it was the young Ortiz's immaturity and lack of experience that did him in."
The chorus of voices demanding a rematch of Mayweather vs. Ortiz has to have the Pacquiao camp concerned that they will have to wait even longer for a mega-mega-mega-bout with Mayweather.
Our own Brent Brookhouse is leading the charge:
There's now a storyline for the rematch and it's a fight that I want to see finished in a clean way. Could Floyd have held up to twelve full rounds of body work and a much stronger man? Were his right hand leads and jab going to continue to eat away at the younger, bigger man?
The story of the fight also lends itself to huge pay-per-view numbers. Honestly, a rematch has a shot at being a bigger fight if promoted correctly than any other in boxing history in terms of pay-per-view buys.
For one of the few times in boxing, we can all put aside the demand for Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and just get excited for Mayweather and Ortiz to lace 'em up a second time.
Dana White tweeted his disapproval of both fighters' behavior and especially the refereeing:
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Dana WhiteWas that NUTS or what!?!? Dirty from both fighters and the most HORRIBLE refereeing I have EVER seen in boxing or anywhere else!
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PBF JR vs PACMAN
it’s not even close.
Learn JiuJitsu.
Jimmy McNulty wannabe.
by RolloTomasi on Sep 18, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
Yup. I have no idea how you could vote for anything else here.
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by Jack.Barrington on Sep 18, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
PBF JR vs. JON OLAV EINEMO!
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
by SSreporters on Sep 18, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I would rather see Silva/ GSP,
but I don’t think there’s any doubt as to which fight would get more PPV buys and media attention.
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by ElliotMatheny on Sep 18, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Any answer other than Pac/Mayweather is crazy
There are some big fights that are possible in MMA, but they’d all be completely overshadowed in terms of buyrates and mainstream exposure by a Floyd/Pac fight.
by MS_Dos_Santos on Sep 18, 2011 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Mayweather vs. Pacquiao
and its really not close
its break and probably set an unbeatbable mark for ppv buys
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Ortiz should've been DQed for a blatant and illegal headbutt
That was bush league and Floyd had every right to knock him the f out.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
by SSreporters on Sep 18, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
It did land
Just not flush for a KO. He attempted a dirty move to KO Mayweather illegally.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
I rec'd you even though it shouldn't have been a DQ,
but that was terrible. It’s one thing for a boxer to use their head. That’s experience and gamesmanship. But Ortiz threw a flying headbutt blatantly and intentionally. Mike Tyson would have bit him, he’s lucky Floyd only beat him.
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Finally
Steve Mazagatti feels vindicated…
by shootfirstaskquestionslater on Sep 18, 2011 2:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
That was the same person I was thinking of. I’m surprised White did not mention him.
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by The One Who Wears The Crown on Sep 19, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
The poll says "possible"
So Lesnar/Reem vs. Cain/JDS is the right answer
by IRodC on Sep 18, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
yep only that or Mayweather/Ortiz 2 are really possible. the others are pipe dreams at best.
by alexmullen4180 on Sep 18, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Reem vs JDS
would be pretty insane
You know what they say
by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Sep 18, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It will be insane...
when they both lose.
by Sugel Mendoza on Sep 18, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I find it interesting how much attention from the MMA community the Mayweather fight has received. Even Dana himself. Two Zuffa cards have taken place in the past two weeks and the only thing he has tweeted about in that time, aside from the Pats game, was the Mayweather fight. I can understand giving it some coverage but when an MMA promoter isn’t talking about his own company’s cards it is a bit surprising.
by memitim on Sep 18, 2011 2:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Boxing is clearly dead/dying, though… … …
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by Jack.Barrington on Sep 18, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
…but if there’s a fight that could save boxing, it’s Mayweather-Pacquiao.
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lol, I was joking, boxing isn’t really dying.
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by Jack.Barrington on Sep 18, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Faulty sarcasm radar...
happens to me too…
by shootfirstaskquestionslater on Sep 18, 2011 2:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What happens after the fight if it happens? How does it save boxing?
You know what they say
by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Sep 18, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Save boxing? I doubt it...
Especially considering it would be a bout between two guys who could reasonably retire in the near future.
A fight that could really help save boxing would be an up and comer getting a shot at one those guys and dethroning him.
Or.............
George Foreman coming back again and taking out Klitchko
You know what they say
by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Sep 18, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
they put almost no effort into pushing
the last Showtime or Spike cards….funny how that happens.
They’ll be back to pushing PPVs with 135 then…
Wait until the first Fox fight on November 12.
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True. The Fox fight, along with Mayweather, are the only fights Dana has talked about on Twitter since the Nick Diaz blow up.
Fights on SHO/SPIKE=0.
by memitim on Sep 18, 2011 2:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Looks like he’s traded in his Crackberry for an iPhone too.
by AusEagle on Sep 18, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
For me, it's one of the 3 MMA fights
Because I give no f’ck about boxing.
That being said, in terms of all combat sports…the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight is the biggest. I would actually consider watching that fight, or at bare minimum be EXTREMELY interested in the outcome….and I have next to 0 interest in boxing as a sport.
MMA and the UFC could likely receive an insane surge in popularity and exposure with this new Fox deal…and certainly any of those 3 MMA fights would be the biggest MMA fight of all time.
Cain vs JDS is going to be big because it will have the network exposure, it will be massive, so the winner of that fight, especially if they score a big win, will be a huge name and very recognizable.
Lesnar is still a big name, him vs Overeem is a huge match up promotionally. That PPV will be big and the winner of that match up, again, especially if it’s a big win like a TKO or KO…will definitely be a guy with a lot of hype.
Those two winners facing off will be huge. I mean, for a while, Lesnar vs anyone was the biggest fight the UFC could do…but these winners fighting, no matter how you slice it, will be massive. Provided that injuries don’t delay and diffuse things.
Lesnar vs Velasquez 2, with both guys coming off of such big wins….would be absolutely crazy. Lesnar vs Dos Santos, the fight that was supposed to happen but never did, again, that would be big. Overeem vs Dos Santos would be massive because of the wins and because at that point they would easily be two of the best strikers in the division, possibly in all of MMA. Overeem vs Velasquez would be equally appealing.
GSP vs Silva FINALLY happening would also be utterly massive…and if Jones does to Rampage and Evans what he did to Shogun…you can’t tell me him vs Silva wouldn’t be insanely appealing.
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by Chris Groves on Sep 18, 2011 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
If Jones dismantles Rampage too...
Then forget GSP/Silva, Jones vs. The Spider becomes a preferable MMA superfight to put together IMO.
Mayweather vs Pacquiao would do 3 million buys easily
Hell I wouldn’t be shocked if the rest wouldn’t be able to get as many buys as just that one put together. While the ending was cheap as hell by Floyd he was winning the fight and winning easily.
2 million easy
3 million is a bit of a stretch
by Urijah Bieber on Sep 18, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d wager if this same sequence had happened in the Octagon with, say, Sonnen and Silva, MMA fans would be lapping it up.
It DID basically happen before
Remember Arlovski vs. Pe De Pano?
there's no kissing in combat sports...
by shootfirstaskquestionslater on Sep 18, 2011 2:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That was taking the bro-hug one step too far.
by memitim on Sep 18, 2011 2:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
funny, I really thought Herring was gay until he said that
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by Unabomberman on Sep 18, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
No not really
When Paul Kelly and Cerrone fought a while ago Kelly got flack for seeming to strike too quickly after a glove touch.
We need Pacquiao vs. Mayweather. It just needs to happen. It is the only superfight likely to happen in combat sports for a good while.
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by mountaineers101 on Sep 18, 2011 2:44 PM EDT reply actions
Didn't vote for PacMan Mayweater becasue its most likely not going to happen
would love to see it but more likely of seeing GSP Silva or Overeem/Brock v Cain/JDS winner
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Mayweather Ortiz
After last night’s shenanigans would probably be a fight worth making as far as the promotional side of the sport goes. I haven’t actually seen all four rounds, i’ve only seen the headbutt and the KO blow(s). The headbutt was poor but Mayweather’s behaviour was sick for me. Ortiz was naive in leaving his hands down if the fight had been restarted but I dont think he expected it and I certainly didn’t.
The fight for me however, is Mayweather Pac Man. That’s the fight everybody wants to see. I’m just desperate to see PBF KO’d if i’m honest. I can’t stand him.
"Honestly, I've got nothing against Josh Koscheck personally........but the guy's just a dickhead"-Paul Daley
For the love of god why does anyone feel the need to see a rematch?
Ortiz had absolutely nothing for Mayweather, anyone who watched that fight can tell you how the next 8 rounds would have gone—-that is if Mayweather didn’t stop it before that. He was abusing Ortiz and got hit with nothing clean in 4 rounds, and to boot he’s probably the best mid-fight tactician in this generation. The KO probably saved Ortiz from more of a beating.
Not afraid to nitpick
On further review, Ortiz was touching Floyd in an apology for the FOURTH TIME before he got hit.
First the hug/kiss combo on the break. Then goes back to touch gloves on the break. Then when the round restarts he puts his hands out to touch gloves and Mayweather begrudgingly accepts. Then he moves in from that to hug him and Floyd looks confused, putting his hands up defensively and not being quite sure what Ortiz is trying to do.
After that, I’m not sure if Ortiz was there to box with Mayweather or trying to sleep with him. Either way, Mayweather did what he does to people who have fights or sexual encounters with him.
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by pdl on Sep 18, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
This is fighting, not patty cake.
I laughed my ass off when Floyd socked Victor
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by ElliotMatheny on Sep 18, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Still it shows the difference between boxing and mma, more so the ufc. If someone threw a low kick and hit the other guys cup and when the fight restarts he touches gloves to apologize and threw an immediate head kick to ko the opponent he would most likely not have a job anymore with that particular organization even though it would have technically been legal.
lol
those other options dont even come close to pacman/mayweather. yes UFC is on fox, but out of the 80 students sitting in my class majority wont even know who jones, gsp, silva is, im pretty sure atleast 50 would know manny and floyd.
Mayweather/Pacquiao is still the big money fight
Mayweather/Ortiz II would just be a nice consolation bout if Manny/Floyd negotiations can’t get going, and even then only if marketed properly.
I voted for Jon jones vs anderson silva
Im surprised more people wanted to see that one than gsp vs silva. Im sure most hardcore fans want to see this one more. If u ask casuals it would probably be silva gsp
Anyone who votes for anything other than Mayweather Pacman is a chump, I’m only a very, very casual Boxing fan but it’s really easy to see that this fight would be the biggest superfight in any combat sport for quite some time. Both fighters in their prime – would be mint.
by Michael Waldron on Sep 19, 2011 3:32 AM EDT reply actions
jon jones vs anderson?? seriously? why does that have so many votes? Jon Jones hasnt even defended his belt yet!
GSP vs Anderson is the proper superfight for MMA as a whole with two guys with immense title defense streaks who (pretty much) cleaned out their respective divisions. Jon Jones on the other hand still has even his first title defense coming up within a division full of big fish he has not faced yet.
In my eyes the second best MMA fight would definitely be the big bad heavyweight unification of the world with some weird Cormier-Barnett fringe being the only thing to spoil the fun.
Jon Jones vs Anderson just does not make sense to me.
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