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B.J. Penn's Preemptive Strike Causes Overblown Situation With the UFC

NEW YORK NY - JANUARY 13:  Dana White UFC President speaks during a press conference to announce commitment to bring UFC to Madison Square Garden and New York State at Madison Square Garden on January 13 2011 in New York City.  (Photo by Michael Cohen/Getty Images)

UFC President Dana White is at it again. This time, he's taking offense to criticism by former UFC lightweight champion B.J. Penn that the UFC forced him to fabricate the slightest bit of animosity toward his UFC 137 opponent, Nick Diaz, during a segment for the UFC Countdown show. Penn posted a video on Tuesday on his website explaining to viewers that he had no ill will toward Diaz. Dana White responded by posting a "raw & uncut" video of the interview, suggesting that nobody forced Penn to say what he said during the interview.

The interview is far from raw as White suggests, so there is still doubt whether White is telling the truth. What is apparent is that Penn was launching a preemptive strike against the idea that he had any animosity toward Diaz. Both men have trained together in the past, and Diaz has stated that there is a mutual respect between the two veteran fighters. Even if it is apparent that Penn wasn't forced to disrespect Diaz, I believe he thought there was enough of chance of Diaz taking it badly that he wanted to pass the blame somewhere else.

Dana White responded as you might expect. He shoved "proof" in our faces that Penn wasn't pushed into telling the audience that he wanted to beat Nick Diaz. Does anyone really care? I didn't think so. 

I'm in the minority when it comes to an opinion on this situation. I truly think Penn was attempting to avoid an awkward situation with Nick Diaz, a training partner he has respect for and probably hopes to continue working with in the future. Some fans would say that this is the fight business and fighters should know that most of the talk is cheap. I don't know if we can say that about Nick Diaz however. Something tells me that most comments Nick hears aren't taken out of any context. What he hears is what he believes. 

The UFC didn't have the foresight to see that situation unfolding in front of them. My guess is Dana White didn't think that far ahead, and he was reacting as he always has to a situation that he feels put the UFC in an unfair light. Dana being Dana as many would say. The reaction had about as much foresight as the strategy to announce major news ahead of a fairly relevant Strikeforce card this past weekend.

It's a shady move by the UFC, in my mind, to undermine Penn's true intention, but Penn didn't explain it very well at all. In fact, a demeanor that we've seen in past squabbles with the UFC came out in the video. Nobody was pulling Penn's arm to say the things he said, and it's difficult for any of us to watch those interviews and believe that Penn had legitimate disrespect for his opponent. Penn didn't know how Diaz would react. Unfortunately, he didn't tell his audience about those concerns in the video. He blamed the UFC.

Bad move. I can't say I'm surprised at the UFC's reaction. When a fighter blames the organization for something as petty as this, Dana White has been quick to provide proof against those accusations. This time around, the proof is incomplete, and the issue is so minuscule that it sets off a light bulb in one's mind that this is a means for the UFC to produce a small media frenzy over an overblown issue.

Who's in the wrong here? I think the UFC blew this thing way out of proportion by responding to Penn's seemingly irrelevant accusation. I think it looks as if they are attempting to create animosity where none really exists, but Diaz's bizarre social understanding might make him believe Penn is lying and was attempting to bury Diaz in the interview. It tugs at the devil on my shoulder, but it also makes business sense.

Penn should have been more clear of his intentions in the video instead of blaming the UFC. That would have killed any opportunity for the UFC to swoop in with their own version of the story. Instead, people will talk, and the UFC may get what they secretly want -- some heat between these two fighters. If not, we can always go for another Dana White vs. enter fighter's name here saga, right?

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I don't get this broo-ha-ha

You’ve been hired to fight a guy. He’s your friend. Big deal. What are you supposed to say: “yeah, I’m going to lose”.

by benhamil on Sep 16, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he wanted to make sure Diaz knew that he didn’t mean any disrespect by his comments in the interview. The problem is that he said the UFC forced him to say those things when he didn’t want to. I think the primary reason for the video was to tip Diaz off to the fact that he didn’t feel any hate. Unfortunately, it went off into a blame UFC tangent.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 16, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I get that. I just don’t see what he said as being disrespectful. I think the real issue here, again, is that Nick Diaz is vagisil sensitive, and Penn is just hyperfocusing on every word as a result.

This is a far cry from his “to the death!!!” and “I’m going to try to kill you” comments to GSP.

by benhamil on Sep 16, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

do any of us think he was forced to say he wants to kill GSP?

this is much ado about jack shit. if BJ doesn’t want to say he’s gonna beat Nick then who really cares. it makes him seem tentative and unconfident. BJ acting and looking soft (no fat jokes) is not good business for the UFC. why doesn’t he get this?

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by F'n Clownshoes on Sep 16, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

because Nick is hypersensitive, and BJ knows this

what he said wasn’t bad at all

/end

by benhamil on Sep 16, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

does Nicks hypersensitivity really need to be this f’n coddled? this hard/soft shit Diaz is hanging onto sucks as bad as Karo’s sense of self entitlement mixed w/ huge doses of social anxiety.

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by F'n Clownshoes on Sep 16, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It isn’t disrespectful. That’s the strange thing. Unless he was catering to Diaz’s idiotic tendency to blow things out of proportion, of course.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 16, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Me no understand.

1. Penn says the UFC tried to get him to say “I’m gonna beat Nick Diaz” at the end of an interview. Penn says he didn’t like that and it made him a little uncomfortable.

2. UFC releases video of UFC asking Penn to say “I’m gonna beat Nick Diaz.” showing BJ looking a bit uncomfotable as he is doing it, eventually saying while laughing “Naw.. I’m not gonna do that.”

So what’s the fuckin problem here?

"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere."

by Shotokanman on Sep 16, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i'm sorry leland but you are wrong

I’m in the minority when it comes to an opinion on this situation. I truly think Penn was attempting to avoid an awkward situation with Nick Diaz, a training partner he has respect for and probably hopes to continue working with in the future.

penn does not train with diaz or any member of the ceaser gracie gym anymore. this was proved by the fact that jake shields is constantly calling out bj.

i’m not sure why bj started this rubbish but it had nothing to do with training with nick diaz, but more likely just because he respects nick as a fighter.

by gsot fan on Sep 16, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

penn does not train with diaz or any member of the ceaser gracie gym anymore. this was proved by the fact that jake shields is constantly calling out bj.

He has trained with Diaz in the past., Both of them went to Penn’s camp before, hence the connection.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 16, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

the past is the past

the fact that jake shields has been calling out bj, and saying he wants the fight to be five rounds ( saying bj has shit cardio ) i think the chances bj trains again with diaz is remote.
i think he doesnt want to piss diaz off because he fights better when angry.

by gsot fan on Sep 16, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Past is past?

Both BJ and Nick has said they have a mutual respect for one another. Not AFTER the Shields incident either. So, past isn’t past.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 16, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then why not just give Diaz a call?

This is a whole bunch of BS about nothing.

The UFC isn’t wrong for asking the fighter to go a certain way in the promo.

Saying “I will beat my opponent.” is not even remotely close to trash talk.

by truck on Sep 16, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly have no idea why he didn’t call Diaz up about it. Maybe BJ forgot all about what the UFC would attempt to do, got put on the spot, and just said it.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 16, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even at that, saying "I will beat Diaz" isn't all that inflammatory.

Both guys are going in there trying to and likely expecting to win.

Pretty generic talk.

by truck on Sep 16, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I feel like a housewife reading People magazine.

I don't know, but the guy quotes himself in his own signature - CaptnAmerca

by CaptnAmerca on Sep 16, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

i have that same cup

And its filled an equal amount.

"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."

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by the-gentle-way on Sep 16, 2011 1:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

do you have my awesome tablecloth tho?

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by Cory Braiterman on Sep 16, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

regretfully ....

No.

"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."

" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com

by the-gentle-way on Sep 16, 2011 3:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The UFC perspective on media relations is just so retarded

Act like a press conference no one gives a shit about is a huge deal and break an amazing fight

Then Loretta Hunt (as cunty as she may be) works for a LEGITIMATE NEWS OUTLET AND YOU BREAK RELATIONS WITH HER OVER A SPAT?!

Like for fucks sake Dana White needs to get some better PR people

by Hashmo on Sep 16, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome marketing strategy. When there isn’t enough conflict between fighters manufacturer some conflict between management and fighter

by terzergoss on Sep 16, 2011 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Frank Mir said he wanted to kill Brock Lesnar

A fighter claimed he wanted to inflict physical harm on another one time. and that story barely got touched

THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS SPORT IS ABOUT

by Hashmo on Sep 16, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gear down big rig

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by Worldisart on Sep 16, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I stabbed a man in the heart.
 I saw that. Brick killed a guy. Did you throw a trident?
Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident. Brick, I’ve been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you’re probably wanted for murder.

 Brick, where did you get a hand grenade?
 I don’t know.

by RECE ROCK on Sep 16, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

very well played

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by Cory Braiterman on Sep 16, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve always been under the impression that BJ Penn doesn’t give a shit if he’s in the UFC or not. He already comes from money, he’s made plenty of it fighting. And he’d gladly take fights outside the UFC against any opponent regardless of weight class. So if Dana gets to the point where its a BJ must go situation he’s only hurting himself. Penn honestly doesn’t care.

by Spider_Vemon on Sep 16, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

He is if he wants to fight GSP again, and he probably wants that since the last time they fought he got his ass whooped

by Gisele Federico Navarro Mendez on Sep 16, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

BJ Penn may say he does but he wants no part of GSP again. Deep down inside he knows this. And I’m a huge BJ Penn fan.

by Spider_Vemon on Sep 16, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s amazing what you can figure out from your house these days.

by benhamil on Sep 16, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It truly is. Im astounded really. Telepathy has served me well.

by Spider_Vemon on Sep 16, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am sure he felt the same way about matt hughes since hughes is the only man to ever make a ref stop a bj fight.

"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."

" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com

by the-gentle-way on Sep 16, 2011 1:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Your mom throwing in the towel is 100x worse than a ref stoppage.

by captainStevo on Sep 16, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats exactly what happened.

"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."

" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com

by the-gentle-way on Sep 16, 2011 9:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Penn v Aoki at Dynamite!

by memitim on Sep 16, 2011 1:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Let me get this straight, this is all over the fact that BJ said he wants to beat Diaz? Or was there something I missed in the videos?

Why would a fighter not say they want to beat someone? What is BJ supposed to say “I want Nick to beat my ass!”? I like Diaz but if this kind of talk is a source of possible contention, I would say fuck ’em and train elsewhere in the future or make a new friend BJ.

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by wmuk on Sep 16, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

You missed the fact that Penn said the UFC forced him to say that when he didn’t want to.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 16, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

If all BJ cared about was Nick’s feelings, why wouldn’t he just call Diaz up and quickly explain the situation? Or have someone in his camp do that? This whole situation is dumb.
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by crookb on Sep 16, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he didn’t want to, he shouldn’t have done it.. he’s a big boy now, it’s a little silly to do it and then blame the evil production crew.

by Horselover Fat on Sep 16, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know why he wouldnt want beating Nick Diaz…specially if they’re friend or whatever. Like “wake up punk, you just blew such a big opportunity and now we have to fight, I’m gonna put you to sleep and lick your blood off my gloves!!”

by Gisele Federico Navarro Mendez on Sep 16, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Other than Bisping, there's no fighter that all other fighters hate, anyway

I know in wrestling practice we were all friends but it didn’t stop us trying to clown our teammates when we were setting the squad for an upcoming match. You don’t have to hate on an opponent to have a pretty fierce brawl.

.....

by Scabby Knuckle on Sep 16, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

This is stupid. Seems like every BIG fight the UFC cant accept a "mutual respect"

Im talking the big fights. Someone always has to have a beef with the next guy.

by mortarz on Sep 16, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't take any pre fight hype seriously.

I thought people understood that what fighters say before a fight was mostly BS anyway. Only weak dudes like Bisping should be letting that kind of shit get to them.

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by pud333 on Sep 16, 2011 1:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

It’s an “overblown” situation that nobody cares about, yet we have back-to-back blog posts and we’re all commenting on this lol

(nothing against BE, just sayin’)

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by Dangit! on Sep 16, 2011 1:01 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

we love talking about things that we don't think are that important round hea

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by F'n Clownshoes on Sep 16, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it’s more to talk about the UFC Fight Night 25. Sorry, but truth.

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by Leland Roling on Sep 16, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frankly My Dear....

I don’t care if Penn was given lines
I don’t care if Diaz cares,
I don’t care if DW used Penn as a puppet
I just hope Penn can win this one
so I don’t have to hear any more about Diaz

by kah on Sep 16, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

bj diaz

dana is tryin to instagate some shit like always.danas just gone plum loco

by fatthead on Sep 16, 2011 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Same as it ever was...

Dana is going instigate something, BJ is going to be whining about something and Nick is going to…just be Nick…

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by The American Ronin on Sep 16, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

penn was looking out for diazs feelings.

Like a good friend would. It was just presented oddly. I kinda wish would have jumped on gsp for not telling dana that he wanted to fight diaz. No matter what dana wanted I bet he would have left diaz on the card against gsp if gsp gave issue right there at the presser. How would that have been for drama? Awsome! Imagine it. Gsp not talking like a company man would have been great forum foder. But we didn’t get that. Even after diaz calss gsp a bitch ……..no one is talking about it. But we get some lame news about the ufs pushing to create a story for a countdown. What’s new about that? Really nick called gsp a bitch……said pre3tty much that he didn’t want to fight him. I’m almost ready to agree with him. Gsp must be quite comfortable with the condit match up. Come on..nick diaz called gsp a bitch!!!!! I guess it’ll have to wait for their next match if they both win. Again….diaz called gsp a bitch. That is news…..

by XingYi on Sep 16, 2011 3:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

honestly

By not hyping the fight. Bj has done a really good job of hyping this fight. He has the blogasphere a buzz with Bj vs. Diaz talk. That clip of Bj saying he is the best in mma at hyping may be true after all…..?
There is a title on the line and no one is talking about it.

"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."

" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com

by the-gentle-way on Sep 16, 2011 3:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

you think?

I can see nick getting a tit5le shot with a win. But penn? If so than why not give fitch his shot? I can’t see it. I love penn but the ufc set a precedent here by not giving fitch a second shot. If bj gets one before fitch than the sport aspect of all this will come under question. Fitch, with a win against hendricks would deserve a shot before penn. Diaz w a win gets one aswell. It really comes down to condit. If he beats gsp then shit gets weird.

by XingYi on Sep 16, 2011 4:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

dana said bj won the fitch fight.

Which he did. So that’s why he gets the shot.

If Fitch gets 10-8 for that round when Bj was never stunned … How does Faber not get a 10-8 for knocking Cruz down or Jacare for putting rockhold on skates? Is it a game of tag? Or a fight? To say Bj had no offence during that round is not true either. He went for subs and didn’t get them.
 Mma has turned it to this volume punching game, and I don’t like that idea one bit.

"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."

" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com

by the-gentle-way on Sep 16, 2011 5:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fitch, with a win against hendricks would deserve a shot before penn.

Not to worry my friend, Johny is going to take care of our Jon problem…

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Never send sheep to kill a wolf.

by The American Ronin on Sep 16, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha.ha. sarcasm

His companies integrity was at stack. He had to something. Anyway Dana white is probably crazy busy. The ufc will b relying on fighters more an more to promote fights. Especially when fights come back to back to back on a greater frequency.

.ompa

by XingYi on Sep 16, 2011 4:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

English isn’t your first language correct? That’s cool

Anyways I know he’s crazy busy which is why he should have ignored something so extremely trivial. Really you think the UFC’s integrity was at stake because someone said they wanted to hype the fight?….yea that’s just not the case at all…AT ALL
If anything posting that video so fast and getting defensive made it look like they’ve got something to hide and perhaps don’t want people to look further into it.

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by Robust23 on Sep 19, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

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